Sub 20sec Avg GBah With Buffed Luna! F2p and Non F2p Options Showcased - Summoners War

[@Seiishizo]

My phone is 1 sec faster than Emulator Hence the 19.5sec Thumbnail! Best skins: Julie: Street dancer Luna: None Deb: Same on both (i think, correct me if I'm wrong) Mephisto: RTA, otherwise Base Akha: RTA, otherwise base (i think base is second fastest but not sure) Teshar: Base

[@TAKiiRO]

Halloween Akha should be faster than base. I bought the Transmog and I a was lightly faster, about a 1~ ish. I cannot gurantee it tho.

[@HanSoo417]

Homu transmog?

[@TAKiiRO]

No ifrit, Homu has the same Animation time in every skin, only visuals change

[@luiskaspar1538]

How much speed do I need on my mons? I got them all on like 152, but I get cut on the mid boss.

[@NovemberX]

3:12 Suffering from sucess. His Prilea straight up kills the golem LOL

[@samueltatsu]

Hi, thanks for the great video and explanation! I also watched your guide on what rune to keep/sell and it helped me so much now I can consistently run 1m 20s GB on average. My problem is, I don't know if I set my standard too high for runes but now I keep selling them if I'm not satisfied with how it rolls whether it's a low roll or it rolls into flat stats. Could you consider maybe making video guide for players like me who are stuck with mediocre runes in inventory and want to increase their quality but not sure how high to aim in order to do it. Now this might be very trivial but I can't find any guide on what is the most effective content to farm for mana stones. My account is one month old and there's just so many monsters I want to build and runes to upgrade and I find it very difficult to maintain a healthy amount of mana stones for when I want to bulk upgrade runes. Maybe you could consider this as well. Thanks and keep on doing what you're doing, you're a legend!

[@spig3547]

Rune section either I'm blind or we didn't see the Teshar runes, are you able to show them? Because that's some insane damage on the Teshar. I doubt many players will get close to your Teshars runes.

[@matthewcorrie6582]

Really appreciate the video! Thank you

[@showmeyourcritz321]

5:00 "The team is 100% f2p"... yeah... but one 270 and one 280 CD Set with 100 CR...NOT

[@orenbicknell3349]

luna and Dorothy are definitely the winners of the balance patch, I can finally use my Dorothy without wanting to cry

[@benjaminmesserer2471]

She wasnt that bad before; did decent dmg already

[@orenbicknell3349]

@@benjaminmesserer2471 her damage isn't the problem, the problem is that's all she had, i always felt like i was giving up on units which just do more to try and use her, but the speed lead makes her self sufficient, and comfortable to use

[@benjaminmesserer2471]

@@orenbicknell3349true

[@jellybean6902]

Where’s your teshar runes?

[@archer6844]

Has anyone had issue with mephisto derping on waves 1 or 3?

[@crashyyval]

Yeah, on wave 3 my mephisto sometimes does s1

[@archer6844]

Does anyone know why this happens?

[@Seiishizo]

skillups or not enough dmg with julie.

[@archer6844]

@@Seiishizo thanks I’ll try for more damage on Julie

[@etizz88]

My Teshar isnt reliable in soloing the waves every time, sometimes one or two of the golems will survive him. Do you need to have fight runes for it to be 100% reliable? this is using the [No Runes] comp

[@stuffedcrust9324]

you say if you have no runes use luna, but your luna is +2300 atk and 230 cd with 100 cr, so i’m confused

[@infernale7949]

It was hard to make mephisto s2 perfect AI. So I changed Julie's runes to triple fight to leave crystals at 1 hp. 20 sec done thanks!

[@Papoxa]

Thanks for the great video! Got my farm runs down to 26 seconds, using Pril Teshar Kona Luna Homu. I just now rolled Deb, and already have Mephisto. Is there a way to use Deb with Teshar, maybe instead of Homu? I'm not sure I understand exactly what Deb contributes with in the team (is it just her passive that lowers boss def further?) My rune quality is mediocre.

[@Seiishizo]

nah keep in the homu, with deb you will see a lot of fails. and by best you get 23-24sec but you would need a 3x fight luna and 3x fight all units + insane set on teshar. so teshar can 1shot midboss. but its not worth it if the runes aren't there. Plus you would have to replace luna with homu then. A whole lot of blabla for 1-2sec and worse success rate :P

[@kennethjohnston5833]

I currently have a Zerath but no lucifer. Do you think he can be a 1 to 1 replacement for Julie with the Luna team? or does it make sense to leave him just for seige? I currently run the teshar, kona, team with little problems (missing def break on boss slows times)

[@peluwin01]

Hi i have Zerath too you can have 18-19s avr team spd tune prilea>zerath>luna>homunculus>deborah

[@5_nyxstar608]

NICE VIDEO but what is the max speed cap for the monsters ,i wanne use Luna in DB abyss hard to thx for all the good video's , they realy help out

[@Seiishizo]

theres no max i think, you could go as high as you want on this one.

[@itsawildrk2360]

Is it possible to get teshar to always go s1>passive>s2 in midboss stage? Sometimes when I try different artifacts I notice an AI change, like back when I used additional dmg by atk he did s1 into s2 more often compared to now I use first atk cd, he always use s2 into s1

[@Leo-rj5ie]

How fast does teshar need to be to move in front of the minions from middle boss on second turn?

[@gohan723super3]

Just a question is kona better than teon? Only ask cause i got teon built but can build kona if its better?

[@DiZzYDeNnis2k9]

Thanks for the video! Is there a replacement for Homu/Deb if I dont have either? I kinda want to keep my Water Homu currently.

[@Seiishizo]

you dont really need water homu for anything tbh. but you could put shaman/lyn in

[@kannonfps]

if you are using water homie on the fire rift beast just use lapis instead. on toa and shit there are better options as well so don't bother. The wind one is really much better for your giant team

[@DiZzYDeNnis2k9]

@@Seiishizo I use him as a farmer and for full clears in Monster Subjugation.

[@foxlery]

​@@kannonfpsI use mine with Sath/Thrain, there are not a ton of good water AOE dotters. I also use mine with Tricaru for monster sub, SDs, and lab content. And he's also a 15 second faimon farmer cause his S1 kills all but boss.

[@HalfingOficial]

Seiishizo, what do u think about the "buff" on Theomars that gain 30% atk bar, The R5 team with Brandia/Baleygr, it could be an impeditive to the correctly sync on this team?

[@Seiishizo]

yea its an anoying thing, i might consider making everything 100 CR and get 28 att lead from federica do to the same thing

[@HalfingOficial]

nice, is a good idea

[@OkamiRyu92]

Looking at this video could you show the runes/stats, I assume that Kona and wind harpy are both full fight runes, with Harpy at high ACC to land the D break

[@Seiishizo]

yes kona and harpy are both 3x fight. harpy 35 acc. harpy +84 spd kona 1 speed after teshar.

[@TFTGalactus]

I wanted a speed team, but I dont have luna, teshar, kyle, lyn, deb, julie, akamahir, mephisto, lucifer, nothing :/ i using veromos, kro and naomi for now.

[@Garrison8900]

F2p units but P2p runes😂😂

[@ProsyMe]

None of seishizos videos are useful at all for this exact reason

[@Muhib1]

​@@ProsyMe i totally agree when i saw 100 crit Rate 271 crit damage i was like what the hell these are Godly Runes. (1 in million runes)

[@bumin8001]

I can litteralt built all this teams. Played for 10 years didnt spend money. Just go farm and stop crying

[@supersoldier9649]

Can Pungbaek be an Akamamir replacement? No Tesh/Meph and my Akamamir is unskilled, so wondering how I can finesse that third team lol

[@JayJaytheScrub]

When running Deborah is it not better to have luna take her second turn before Deborah gets hers? Not sure how much slower deborah would need to be for that tho.

[@Seiishizo]

thats actually a decent option yea

[@Pablo-qh5eb]

U can try julie lush prilea luna homu, full f2p and faster than teshar

[@s3mdd]

I'm thinking sophia over the prilea could work for better def break chances

[@xRisK_Flash]

What are the stats necessary for that team?

[@Pablo-qh5eb]

@@s3mdd slowdown the run because counter, btw u cant because luna has perfect ia on full hp, but if prilea moves 3 she must use s3/s2 most times

[@Pablo-qh5eb]

@@xRisK_Flash Julie need to put smalls crystals low(lower rune req for lushen if u don't put golems on his pasive) for perfect ai lushen s3, prilea 36 acc Big dmg set luna and homu

[@Seiishizo]

@@s3mdd too many multi hits on sophia

[@showmeyourcritz321]

What should I play, when I have no Deborah, no Teshar, no Mephisto and mediocre Rage/Fight sets? Cant make a consistent and decently fast GBAH team :(

[@raphzertdr5882]

a good team is prilea akha veromos galleon wind homonculus but it's not really that fast, like 1min average (41s is my best time with this team tho)

[@nicolaslastella5376]

Keep farming a lower stage

[@Cubecrafter-of9bm]

its kinda sad how they made another team with "bad" runes and f2p possible to be as good or better than the high requirement shit. idk it took me months of necro farming to get my teshar team done and 2 weeks later its possible with worse runes and f2p

[@bwybwy5392]

Would lyn work in place of luna?

[@froggy5041]

I think Teon would be better if your teshar's got good runes, otherwise Lyn could work too, it'd be longer though, but from what I've seen some people do use Lyn

[@bwybwy5392]

@@froggy5041 how tough would the rune requirements be?

[@YellowPilot]

Is there a replacement for Julie/Teshar if you don't have either?

[@HorrizonLP]

Julie is from guild shop, so when you didn't get her there yet you probably are way to early for sich a team

[@marielcarey4288]

If you dont even have a julie do you have the runes for the team?

[@ochatodobitcoin6492]

hello. I just got the light demon today and I already had a teshar but still unruned. should I use both of them?

[@Seiishizo]

you could go for the julie prilea lucifer luna +1 team. plus 1 can be homu or shaman

[@pokeview8252]

Is there something other than Debra and homonculus that’ll work for a one minute or under team? I have everyone except those built

[@Seiishizo]

you could go Luna + Shaman/lyn

[@pokeview8252]

@@Seiishizo thank you!

[@HorrizonLP]

Is the Deborah transmog faster than the base if she moves?

[@Seiishizo]

its the same i think

[@matteomenichelli7038]

time 00:22.000 sec I love this things!

[@fenzyn]

Is there no way to replace wind homu? I dont mind a couple seconds slower cause i hate using wind homu since i want water homu for other content. And i dont have deb

[@Seiishizo]

water homu is easier to replace in other content than wind homu in gb to be honest. However you could place shaman/lyn in there. its just worse for the winrate by a lot.

[@eikilicious]

What would be the team if you have no runes and no Teshar. I do have a Zerath though but no Lucifer

[@Seiishizo]

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[@radekmojzis9829]

before i got teshar i was running prilea galleon mamir shamman and humo, very reliable and works with a pretty wide range of rune quality. with decent runes it runs at 35 average, with worse its more like 40-45. Zerath is only really good if you can oneshot the waves - if you can get to that point just run prilea, zerath, luna, humo + anything

[@unknown963_.-5]

Would leah be better than wind ifrit for speed and dmg?

[@unknown963_.-5]

I'm saving my scam stones for Liam but I'm really tempted for that teshar (got the Kylie Julie team working fine but this is faster and I imagine safer) This team got me even more tempted to pull for teshar Idk what to do lol

[@SpiritMagus]

dumb question but how in the f does luna s3 mid boss and the main boss with a 3 turn cool down

[@Seiishizo]

clearing a wave reduced CD

[@SpiritMagus]

@@Seiishizo what are your runes on teshar, mine isn't clearing 1 last minion on wave 3 causing my Luna having to s1 hit to kill so it slightly slowing team

[@eLsain]

it's better to reduce the dmg output from prilea, because she might one shot the golem with s2 and messed up teshar s3

[@marijnlastname3132]

This is just wrong. A decent teshar will still kill golems, prilea dmg is great for mid and end boss

[@eLsain]

@@marijnlastname3132 lmao this is a 2 month old comment, how decent is your teshar? Mine is +320% cdm and still cant one shot golem if teshar not using s2

[@marijnlastname3132]

@@eLsain for sure, but videos like these get watched in the future so I thought I'd add. Mine is 250 crit dmg 2300 atk. and I waveclear just as fine, unless you're trying to one shot midboss. On my new alt it's 2900 atk 180 crit dmg and leaves one at 1% hp for Luna to finish off at wave 3

[@eLsain]

@@marijnlastname3132 my teshar one shot mid boss without any problem, the issue is if you wanted a perfect AI for everything you have to make sure prilea doesn't one shot the golem at the mid wave, sometimes teshar don't use S2 and he will not kill anything therefore messed up the run. My best set is +26xx atk and +320% critdmg and he barely one shot mid wave with s1 with your set you will never kill the golem at mid wave

[@marijnlastname3132]

@@eLsain definitely am killing the golems during mid wave. You have konomiya boosting your teshar back up so he goes again right?? Edit: ohhh wait you mean mid boss. Yeah teshar one shotting that's tough. Needs a Deborah and really good artifacts. I just have my Luna go after

[@TektonVOD]

Awesome guide! I was confused as to why Luna was a in the F2p and Non F2p teams but I realized I missed the HOH from two weeks ago... Do you think Water Dhalsim, Konamiya, Julie, Prilea, Homu would make a good GBAh team? Would I need crazy rune quality and what would the turn order look like for a team like this?

[@trystanclemenceau2071]

It really sucks how gb12 is either unreliable or just not fast without teshar

[@yassssss4596]

Have you watched the vidéo?

[@radekmojzis9829]

Still better than necro... that this is pretty much impossible to run fast.

[@trystanclemenceau2071]

​@@yassssss4596 was at work when it was uploaded, just watched it Still, no teshar teams require your runes to be way better Not complaining though, teshar being a nat5 means it's fine if he's easier to use

[@huiwxng]

is it better to use luna or kyle in lunas slot

[@Seiishizo]

luna

[@huiwxng]

@@Seiishizo i just came back to the game, and realized most of my units are half-ahh runed. would you recommend deruning everything and focusing on just my gbah team? also should I farm giants or necro for my damage runes to actually be able to build this team? sorry for so many questions

[@CloakedJester]

What about deborah instead of wind homu in the lucifer team ?

[@Seiishizo]

will probably result in more fails but you can try it out

[@KristanJayBriones]

I have teshar and luci. How do i rune and what team should i put

[@shortlydemystified]

My luna is full hp, does s3, gets no 2nd turn, any idea why?

[@shortlydemystified]

Prilea has +84, teshar has +47, kona +73, luna +55, homunculus +56

[@LucasSousaSF]

What are the best artifacts for teshar? Cridamage on s3 and s2?

[@Seiishizo]

combination lines of as much CD as possible on both S2 and S3

[@LucasSousaSF]

@@Seiishizo I am a f2p player, do not have a lot of crystals at all. My current team is at 29 second average and would be faster by having homu on triple fight, I just dont know if I should even put my energy into farming that

[@janwido27]

@@LucasSousaSF you don’t need a faster team with f2p crystals

[@LucasSousaSF]

@@janwido27 yeah I was thinking just that my friend, but you know that feeling when you really want to see a better run time just for the sake of it? Lol

[@janwido27]

@@LucasSousaSF yes I feel you hahaha trying to be your voice of reason meu amigo

[@klavenqt]

Any tips on how to farm devmons?

[@Seiishizo]

feed dupes for devilmons. in the dupe shop

[@klavenqt]

@@Seiishizo where is the dupe shop sorry

[@klavenqt]

and what's the best way to get dupes?

[@kennethli2518]

I see f2p team, I press like.

[@AlexamderIceHammer]

What speed difference is needed for Luna to not cut after kona boost?

[@Seiishizo]

you mean with teshar? prilea +84 teshar +47

[@AlexamderIceHammer]

@@Seiishizo I don't understand the math but that worked lol thank you!

[@LifeLongBruhGamer]

any replacement for julie in the no mephisto no tesh team?

[@Seiishizo]

you can't replace the whole team and expect same results X'D

[@LifeLongBruhGamer]

@@Seiishizoi don't want to get the same results, my team rn averages 1:10 - 1:20 so i'd like to get down to ~45 seconds until i get enough julie pieces in my guild shop. do you think prilea -> sig/akhmamir -> luna -> wind homu could see results similar? idk what would dictate making sure that sig and akham use their s3 tho

[@LifeLongBruhGamer]

@@Seiishizolush instead of julie maybe? i stopped playing for a year and a half to 2 years and lush used to be the meta but idk what happened as to why he's not really used in giants anymore

[@TheRammsteinfan91]

toa hell stage 9 help pls. its impossible, and i hope this stage never comes back. what does com2us thinking about that

[@Seiishizo]

i recommend to watch the video for Killa for Toa Hell help, or check out the reddit posts that people make around the time of Toa Reset. those are best of helps including f2p style of teams.

[@DvArcn-ev4zp]

That harpy was so fat that it 1shot a golem 😂

[@Zero-gi9qd]

Is there grindstone for cr and CD?

[@darylgeorge007]

What's the best alternative for luna....I chose gin...🙈🙈🙈

[@sparkplug8763]

kyle maybe

[@twogueder]

Whats the video i can find this no runes team ?

[@joshuat3970]

Hello where do you farm your fight sets now?

[@Seiishizo]

SR. or events where you can choose hero runes i always get fight

[@joshuat3970]

@@Seiishizo ok thx!!!

[@vulgofenix]

what to use instead of luna?

[@bratan7022]

Why is my Luna cutting after Kona S2 on Teshar?

[@Seiishizo]

you need +84 spd on prilea and +47 spd on teshar

[@thiagosoria9266]

is she useable in DB12 ?

[@Seiishizo]

Yes for sure. even lowering the rune quality on that team by a lot more i think. I'll make a video on it soon!

[@thiagosoria9266]

@@Seiishizo can't wait for the video!

[@FE4RNOT]

Why u no show Teagan runes ;-;

[@kentcarter4393]

Does teshar needs fully skilled up?

[@niklasmaier2664]

yes

[@aed1Teto]

Why Prill not Hella?

[@eduikezaki]

Thanks for the video. I am having an issue where on the second trash wave my Teshar is killing the golem and not activating the passive skill. Would you know why that happens? My Teshar it is not fully skilled up, could this be an issue? Thank you

[@hybridmx5]

I'll play around with Lucifer and Jaara.

[@captainbubb1278]

what do i replace the luna with?

[@Seiishizo]

wind homu or lyn, however luna is often better

[@woodpecker9401]

what causes mephisto to derp on trash waves and use s1 instead of s2? one of the issues remaining i have left to make my team near 99.9% mephisto using s1 = luna may sometimes move = luna uses s3 on 1% hp trash mob = no luna s3 for miniboss/boss apart from this i only notice my fails when i miss prilea defbreak on miniboss/boss

[@blazingsfire5889]

your julie doesnt deal enough dmg to push the golems into

[@jellecosemans6133]

I have luci but no deborah, do i go julie luci pril luna homunc?

[@Seiishizo]

correct.

[@jellecosemans6133]

In that order or pril first?

[@spobus]

why didnt i picked luna

[@radekmojzis9829]

Did they increase the resist on giants? my prilea refuses to deff break for the last few days... today i even gave her 83 acc to see if that fixes it, but it doesnt seem like it does. 9/50 of my runs today are missed def break on boss or mid boss. It should only be like 8% of runs even if she only ever used S1 - definetly not 18%

[@Seiishizo]

bad rng streak. :

[@viktorgrabovski520]

Does she have max skillups? S1 has added activation rate from skillups; if you're missing full skill-ups, you're going to fail way more often than not.

[@radekmojzis9829]

​@@viktorgrabovski520 Shes full skilled up and had 45 acc (35 should be enough). It was literally just 2 days of bad luck... today i did 700 more runs and it finally went down from 29 (which is was somehow worse than before the luna buff) to the expected 26.5.

[@merlinbroich3530]

any Luna replacements?

[@Seiishizo]

Luna is f2p lol

[@merlinbroich3530]

so....?

[@merlinbroich3530]

just put Lucifer as 5th Slot 🤔? better just pull a Deborah...

[@merlinbroich3530]

Luna WAS f2p 🤓☝️

[@R1zzio]

What to replace luna with? xd

[@Seiishizo]

she's f2p, 😋 but Lyn or shaman can do

[@R1zzio]

@@Seiishizo Yeah, i haven't got my hands into Luna yet, just wanted to know who i can use until i get her

[@matheuscaselani]

2k ataq, 100% criti rate and 271% crit damage. WTH i will never get there =c

[@mitex2944]

Hey, why my kono dont BUFF teshar ? He BUFF pirell

[@MonkeyDKizu]

Your turn order (speed tuning) is messed up, look at the guides for the right speed and make your mobs similar

[@Francorocco]

you need Kona to move right after the mob you want to be boosted, she always boost the one with the lowest bar so if your she moves after another unit that unit will always be the one with the lowest atk bar

[@edreichc.valdez6046]

Who’s better lyn or luna?

[@Seiishizo]

luna

[@Khoalabare]

To put a further point on this, Luna has perfect s3 AI with full health. Also free 100atb means you can get a free 2nd hit if speed tuned.

[@fabricafabrica-f1d]

3 team, no problem Julie kill cristals?

[@hydracollector3588]

With this runes even kro works

[@piercethedrock]

How can I stop Luna from cutting between kona and teshar?

[@Seiishizo]

make prillea +84

[@boartank]

20 gosh dang seconds. FTL farming.

[@MrUnknow2011]

lucifer instead of mephisto

[@charohazard]

sucks i came back a week after free luna

[@lundrix]

Con esas runas te lo pasas hasta con 5 garudas

[@GD-Aluze]

271 DC i can't 😔

[@Zero-gi9qd]

Teshar make everything easier

[@Ugin_Spiritdragon]

+2.1k atk 100%cr 271%cdmg Yeah totally f2p🤦‍♂️

[@Seiishizo]

stats of runes are never p2w nor f2p, i know f2p people who farm a lot of rage runes who have way better rage than me. its about the units being an f2p team :)

[@Ugin_Spiritdragon]

@@Seiishizo well then im just giga unlucky.. playing for 10 years and my best rage set goes 225cdm on luna 💀 and it's not that im not farming... I farm about 15-20k energy a month. My account is just doomed i guess ( I've got 12 runes with quad rolls and only 2 of them are spd quads). Atleast i got my first ld5 after 3038 days and it was a zerath so i guess thats Atleast something xD