Buffy Cut: Willow & Tara Love Story - Part 8

[@Nicamon]

5:37 - 5:50 This is 1 of the *BEST* Tara moment *EVER!* I love her standing up for Willow the way the Scoobies did for her back in ep 5x06!🤩😎😍

[@monicacortez9871]

I love how Spike disliked the idea of Willow relapsing

[@freyagoodier8721]

Yeah I agree

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@freyagoodier8721 So do I. Frankly, it seems as though the fans love the characters more than their friends among the characters do.

[@laurenjcoates]

Yet another example of Spike ultimately being a more loyal friend to the scoobies than Xander

[@markseslstorytellerchannel3418]

I think this is why life is messy. They both had valid points, Willow relapsing or they all dying. Life is often not clean-cut.

[@darrylwiggins1156]

I could be wrong but i do believe that this show was the first with an ongoing lesbian relationship.And it was well written,heartwarming and a pleasure to watch grow.so much so it was devastating to see it end abruptly.

[@chissstardestroyer]

One of my favorite things about Tara here in this episode is her pretty outfit; she does dress very pretty.

[@davidostrowski679]

The end scene of Wrecked was immense. Classic Buffy & Willow

[@pancakepancake2239]

Xander: Look I don't want to gang up on you... but that's what I'm gonna do, all the time

[@monicacortez9871]

I'm gonna need you to send me the videos that are blocked 😙

[@chissstardestroyer]

I have to happily admit, practically all the actresses they have in this show are flat-out-drop-dead-gorgeous, physically speaking.

[@Feteronii]

who cares

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@Feteronii Well, not that much, but it would matter to them.

[@Feteronii]

@@chissstardestroyer huh? to who?

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@Feteronii The actresses, most women like to hear that they look pretty.

[@Feteronii]

@@chissstardestroyer wow. i hope someday that I'm as arrogant as you to think a bunch of celebrities care about what i think of their looks LMFAO. I'm a woman and, no, we don't care or value that

[@kiracrystal]

Anya and Xander didn't help Willow she tried to do the best she could to heal her addicton that's very hard

[@Nepthu]

Oh Gee, they were worried about DYING. That's why. Good thing the writers abandoned the "magic is drugs" metaphor the following season. It never made sense because drugs can ONLY be used to get high whereas magic could save their lives

[@chissstardestroyer]

Oh, and I really do love the part that begins at about 4:41 into the film you have here: Anya's bullying Willow, and Tara reveals that deep down she's a dame (girl knight), due to her interior mettle of her character.

[@kiracrystal]

I didn't like how Anya and Xander pushed Willow to down she just tried to be better it's a real addiction

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@kiracrystal I'm with you, they proved themselves to be false friends of hers in that scene; they were about to sell her back into the slavery of addiction without a second thought; some friends they were!

[@Nepthu]

​@@chissstardestroyer By your logic, Willow would be a good friend for letting them all die. Good thing the writers abandoned the "magic is drugs" metaphor the following season. It never made sense because drugs can ONLY be used to get high whereas magic could save their lives. Sorry but if the choice is death or trying magic, you try magic.

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@Nepthu The occult does a lot of harm to those who engage in it, no matter what the reason, there is never ever any good or even remotely sufficient reason to engage in any form of magic, aside from slight-of-hand. And slight-of-hand is not involving of spells or potions at all, which are fraud-jobs at best. But thank you for your input; I'd not be able to address this issue unless it was brought to my attention about your understanding of this.

[@LisA82G]

5:12 Was Spike about to stand up for Willow?

[@Kal911]

Willow was one of the few people Spike truly respected even when he was soulless since she never treated him like a monster or tormented him after he got the chip. Same goes for Tara, Dawn and Joyce.

[@Nepthu]

@@Kal911 Anya was the only voice of reason in that scene. Willow would let everyone die to avoid using magic?. That is pure selfishness. Good thing the writers abandoned the "magic is drugs" metaphor the following season. It never made sense because drugs can ONLY be used to get high whereas magic could save their lives.

[@Kal911]

@@Nepthu you didn't get it. It wasn't just a metaphor for drugs. Magic was the way to get everything in the easy way, magic was supposed to help people, not to fix everything to have it the way you want, especially because magic is dangerous and a little mistake could put people in danger. It's like going around with a gun in your pocket, you could take it out everytime you want to get what you want from others, but if you fire it accidentally you could kill somebody. Plus Willow's magic is essentially dark magic, that power never left her even after he hair changed back to be red again. So Willow is afraid that if she loses control her dark magic would harm somebody and that's exactly what would happen, especially because one of the most used power of her dark magic is absorbing energy from other people, putting them in danger. Magic wasn't simply a metaphor of drugs, it was a metaphor to not follow the "easy path" and forcing what you want upon others.

[@Nepthu]

@@Kal911 You didn't get it. As you stated, "magic was supposed to help people." THIS is the perfect time where the true reason for it is relevant. Anya wanted Willow to save their lives. You're acting like that is superfluous when it's not. They could have all died. What part of that doesn't you understand?

[@Nicamon]

@@Nepthu It's not that simple.Magic,during that period,could be either helpful or very damaging in the hands of Willow...or even *both!* Let's say Willow managed to help everyone out(which she couldn't,but let's pretend for a moment she could).Then she went straight into her addiction once again because"she tasted it"and couldn't help but using it again.Let's say she did something like the car accident she had with Dawn but this time someone got killed. All because the Scoobies couldn't think of a better way to solve their problem than to force *her specifically* to use magic. Now let's say she DIDN'T help them getting out (because,once again,SHE COULDN'T!Only Halfrek coul!)and let's say the lethal accident happened for the same reason I said earlier. In that case,NOT ONLY pushing Willow to use magic would have had lethal consequences,but it would have ALSO being USELESS during the can't-leave-the-house spell!Was it worth it?!NO,IT WASN'T!Expecially because there was _another witch_ who could try a spell without being so much at risk:TARA! It's true that she's not as powerful as Willow but Anya wasn't even giving her a chance:she went straight to Willow and she was *only* accepting *her* magic help!That's unfair on both Willow AND Tara and the whole situation,really!X-P

[@chissstardestroyer]

"Oh, and Tara? Don't worry, I'm not mocking you at all for standing up for her and doing the right thing about protecting her; I'm just plain amazed you'd do that, after what she *did* to you- yes, I know well it was effectively sexual assault... the fact that you've forgiven her amazes me. And for that, you have my kudos and congratulations in that regard."

[@chissstardestroyer]

And Alexander's no real friend of Willow's either; she said she's scared of what this'd do to her, and he's about to throw her back into her addiction... some friend you are, Xander, buddy!

[@kiracrystal]

I never liked Xander he was too selfish

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@kiracrystal I understand, as for me, his taste in "entertainments" is not good at all, as he hinted that he had bad magazines in his locker when they were doing the locker searches. I didn't like that touch in his personality at all.

[@Nepthu]

Good thing the writers abandoned the "magic is drugs" metaphor the following season. It never made sense because drugs can ONLY be used to get high whereas magic could save their lives. Sorry but if the choice is death or trying magic, you try magic.

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@Nepthu Not really, because then you cast yourself into a dimension where you become a monster to your friends- much as she discovered in Season 6 by the end. She basically let slip that she hated herself like that- a monster and nothing else. That, my neighbor, is what it is like to be in Hell: you become a monster to your best friends. And *that* is the direct fruit of engaging in the occult. Let me put it this way- as the only safe way to put it "Death rather than sin." as Dominic Savio put it, and the occult is major-league immorality, always and forever... same with any spiritual connections at all at that, due merely to that particular condemnation. And yes, that absolutely includes prayer.

[@missvt6640]

@@Nepthu It wasn't "just getting high" type of metaphor. It was showing how something that makes you powerful can become addictive, much like heroin makes you feel invincible/heroic. Magic in the show has a similar allure as heroin does. There's a cost to magic use and she was out of balance with it, using it for selfish reasons. It took her a long time to regain control.

[@ricstormwolf]

Wow. After that, I want to see the part where they get back together ❤️

[@chissstardestroyer]

One of the best things about this show is it shows the addictive nature of bad behavior: both women are addicted to some form of sinful, destructive, behavior, and self-destructive at that... and they need to change course, quick too, before the "old dragon" catches on and catches them/finds them.

[@freyagoodier8721]

I didn't like how willow got a new girlfriend in season 7 kenady

[@Nepthu]

Me neither. I hated Kennedy and wanted her to die in battle. Plus, the attraction made no sense. Kennedy was NOTHING like Tara and people are generally attracted to the same type. Look at Buffy. Her boyfriends were all jacked dudes who could fight. Willow being with Kennedy was like if Buffy suddenly decided that she liked pencil neck geeks like Andrew.

[@darrylwiggins1156]

Nepthu,Freya.Love is love is love.Let it be.

[@ramkasa9257]

@@Nepthu Willow didnt have a type. She went from Xander to Oz to Tara to Kennedy. None of them were anything alike.

[@ele_piccola_fatina4319]

KENEDAY È ODIOSA

[@ele_piccola_fatina4319]

​@@darrylwiggins1156infatti

[@chissstardestroyer]

"About the wearing cheese matter, Willow; what *were* you trying to accomplish, by the way?"

[@Adriaan2005]

Holly crap, how many comments did you leave here, mate? xD L

[@emmas1743]

Your friendly neighborhood Spider-man was just wondering lol

[@chissstardestroyer]

That part where Willow says "No more spells, I'm finished." that's a metanoia right there. ("Metanoia", Greek for literally "mind new", a total reversal of moral agenda regarding any specific or general part of how one lives one's life.) Yeah, she was a dummy, she invoked the mob, the preternatural mob, and that *never* works out right for any human who does call on them, ever!

[@audrarouse5564]

Where is part 9?

[@markseslstorytellerchannel3418]

People got offf bashing Dawn...I never saw why.

[@pancakepancake2239]

can't spell annoying without Anya

[@joshfactor1]

where's part nine?

[@rachelprighel4409]

I know that me too

[@chissstardestroyer]

The amazing thing is, as we fans who've seen this episode's precursors, know well, is that when Tara stands up for her, she's just as likely as not to throw her right back into her addiction- Tara'd been *raped* previously, and by her *ex*, too; that's why she's so scared of getting anywhere near her *ex*, they got into a fight, and did something they shouldn't have, ever!

[@kiracrystal]

Tara has been raped?

[@chissstardestroyer]

Round abouts 7:51 into this it seems Willow's begun to stalk her ex; this'd be a college drama to a T!

[@rwwilson21]

No, she wasn't. she was going to ask Tara out but then thought Tara​ moved on and ran off.

[@michaelschweigart3517]

Willow and Tara were the best lesbian couple in all of t.v. history. I have a better imagination now because of them.

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@rwwilson21 I understand what you mean., or is she an obsessive girlfriend? That sort of thing can happen, especially in *that* type of relationship.

[@chissstardestroyer]

@@michaelschweigart3517 Really? Pity about that, as that sort of relationship shouldn't ever be endorsed, as it propagates them being in truly abusive relationships that mess up the members of the relationships.

[@rwwilson21]

​@@chissstardestroyer I don't think Willow was. By that point in her rehab and her fixing her relationship with Tara, they were already on good terms. A good example: the scene in 6x15: "As You Were," at The Bronze where Dawn mentions to Willow that's she's in a great mood, and Willow says, "can't help it." Than Dawn response with, "you and Tara speaking again." That's two episodes before Willow's attempt to ask Tara out in 6x17: "Normal Again". The way the writers set up the story, their good terms is going to progress. Because of that, the next step is for one of them to ask the other out for a coffee, dinner, etc.