Buffy the Vampire Slayer Talk || s2e17 "Passion"

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[@TabbyeLynne]

Watch Buffy, they said It'll be fun, they said

[@antonellaricco7164]

THEY LIED

[@fasdaVT]

Well it's fun for us if she watches.

[@UTU49]

I posted this elsewhere about this episode: Here's the thing that people don't understand about Buffy until they watch it. Buffy is just a light, fun, silly fantasy show... ... until it isn't.

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

@@antonellaricco7164 Did they? It's definitely been fun for me

[@dees3179]

It’s fun for us because Joss made us into angelus. ……. 😵‍💫🤦🏼‍♀️ now we take pleasure in watching other peoples pain.

[@zenithquasar9623]

And yes, when Willow cries, we cry.

[@sk70091]

I'm like that with both Willow and Buffy. Can't help it.

[@SeraphSeph]

I end up laughing or not caring when willow cries.

[@joeypotter6051]

When Buffy cries, I cry. I'm ambivalent towards Willow.

[@jayc9345]

Alley: "I'm just stressed because I don't want Buffy to be sad..." Joss: "Hold my beer."

[@Phoenixdark1]

Not sure why, but it says your comment was posted 2 weeks ago. So... congrats on inventing time travel.

[@beardedcasual5120]

@@Phoenixdark1 patreon likely

[@jonmays9886]

@@Phoenixdark1 Pateron members get it in advance

[@cristonsloan]

@@Phoenixdark1 😂

[@sarahharvey1725]

The fact that Alley hates Angelus so much is a testament to David Boreanaz's acting and the brilliance of the Angelus character

[@lenr112]

Only Buffy could insert a comical scene right after a horrific murder and make it work.

[@hawkyhawk]

Not really they just put him in scenes that make him look bad

[@anatoldenevers237]

Sarah Harvey I love Angelus. He's purely evil and he loves every second of it.

[@DmGray]

​@@hawkyhawk They let him adlib a lot of his villainous scenes. He really is *very* good at it, especially if you look behind the scenes and see how his colleagues talk about him (he's apparently a real joker)

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

I don't care how much everyone uses separate names they aren't different characters. Joss just has a hard on for angel and refuses to let him have any culpability for the crimes "Angelus" commits

[@jesseclark3697]

Just to highlight how good Angel is at being sadistic: Giles starts out telling Buffy that Angel is trying to provoke her, that she doesn't "have the luxury of being a slave to your passions. You mustn't let Angel get to you, no matter how provocative his behavior may become." Then by the end of the episode Ripper is burning down a building on a suicide mission.

[@jasonfelts5193]

I will be forever sad that the "Ripper" Giles spin-off for the BBC got nixed by Fox because that would have been amazing

[@LivyRivy]

This is why I love reading the comments on reaction videos. This is one of my favorite episodes of the season. I've seen it more times than I can count over the years, and I never made this connection before. That's brilliant.

[@mooble1325]

such clever foreshadowing and an excellent reminder that no matter how wise he is, giles is still human

[@itsmedino]

@@jasonfelts5193 one hundred percent!! The pain is real!

[@Nicamon]

*Angelus

[@NerdySwede]

We're all a bunch of sadist wanting to watch the light go out from Alley's eyes. aren't we?

[@matthewkreps3352]

For that episode to come? Yes. Yes we are.

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

Oh I'm eagerly awaiting what's to come so...yes!

[@lurker1316]

We're all Angel, lurking outside the window waiting to see Buffy and Willow and react to the news.

[@edwardthorne9875]

Won't happen. The light in Alley's eyes will never die.

[@juzujuzu4555]

Now, I'm a masochist that want's to see Alley to be happy, laughing and enjoying her life, so this episode is just on my alley.

[@oricouldjustnot]

Ally: "I'm just stressed because I don't want Buffy to be sad..." me: *buckles seat belt*

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

...I made popcorn myself

[@oricouldjustnot]

@@AscendedXSaiyan can I have some. my seat belt might not be enough

[@bverji]

Well, at least she is lucky that Willow never cries again.

[@Theomite]

Ally: I'm just stressed because I don't want Buffy to be sad... Me: ...Oh it's *on* now.

[@Carlos1515]

I did want to mention that the chase with Jenny always gets overlooked. It really shows the brilliance of Angelus' psychological torture. How he hides it in the small details. When he grabs Jenny and purposely throws her to the door hence giving her an exit. When she's running and he purposely walks. It gets a lot of flak when he runs into the cart but it was deliberate. He does have vampire reflexes and it shows him next scene already upstairs. He gives tiny amounts of hope to escape, erases the hopes, gives some more and the cycle repeats until he finally finishes

[@WillsonT011]

And he didn't even bother to drink her blood😈

[@quinnsinclair7028]

Him prat falling over the cart still looks goofy.

[@LivyRivy]

Yup. It's like a slasher movie.

[@SeraphSeph]

@@quinnsinclair7028 that's the point. He wanted to give her a modicum of hope that she could outsmart angelus long enough to escape. Then he crushed it. He probably found tripping like that funny.

[@anatoldenevers237]

Carlos Hernandez wow, I didn't think Angelus could be any more evil(seriously he's arguably the most evil character I've seen on TV) and you made him even worse. Congrats

[@ToySouljah.]

Giles: "Jenny was the first person I ever loved" Ethan Rayne: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@zenithquasar9623]

Lmao!

[@dodgermutt]

The full quote was "In my years as...Watcher...I've buried too many people. But Jenny was the first I've loved."

[@zenithquasar9623]

@@dodgermutt Yeah. He means he buried many people, this is the first time he buried someone he loved. But easy to misunderstand I guess.

[@fasdaVT]

Drug and magic fueled orgies aren't love.

[@MorganMalfoy13]

@@fasdaVT Doesn't mean there wasn't love. I mean, I'd be into that with my girlfriend. Not so much the demon part, but...

[@doyle8711]

“THE FISH DID NOT DESERVE THIS!” Quote of the video.

[@Oxmustube]

Also don't hurt the dog. It shows our priorities.

[@flee4342]

I want that on a shirt

[@subjectd6985]

It's funny that at some point big bad Angelus had to sit there and catch all the fish lol. I imagine him with a little fishing rod.

[@katieflaggirl8518]

Quote of the Day for those who can’t quite read it... “*Rat Noises*” Buffy

[@syystomu]

omg thank you

[@lynnevetter]

Hahahaha

[@juzujuzu4555]

I read it as "*cat noises*" and thought Alley is just little funny in the head :D But now that's funny as hell =)

[@lightbearer313]

Another thank you. I could read Buffy's name, but not what she said.

[@N0-1_H3r3]

Re: Angelus and his soul. This is who Angelus was. This is the monstrous, joyfully cruel, manipulative, sadist he used to be, revelling in every moment of pain and misery he inflicted. He was this for over a century: one of the vilest and most despicable Vampires to ever walk the Earth. Add a soul to that, and you get Angel: a man consumed by his guilt over all the suffering he's inflicted. That's a lot of guilt, because that's *a lot* of suffering. That's why he was cursed - so that he would suffer for all he had inflicted. And Buffy was the only person that helped him forget that guilt.

[@jasonfelts5193]

It always bothered me that fans fans say Angel lost his soul because he had sex with Buffy. Rewatch the episode. The sex happens and is over long enough for the two of them to fall asleep. That's when he loses his soul. That moment of bliss,, dreaming peacefully in the arms of someone that loves him. That was when he didn't feel horrible for the first time in a century

[@MrFlashpoint1978]

Great analysis. Spot on.

[@s_m_SL4Y3R]

@@jasonfelts5193 totally agree, they even said that it was "when the soul no longer plagues his thoughts, it would be taken." there wasn't mention of intimacy, just peace and contentment that triggered it

[@John.Fielding]

"we can never have nice things" pretty much sums up everything Joss Whedon has ever created

[@Brandyalla]

Firefly was chock-full of nice things. It was fresh strawberries. I suppose that's why Fox had to kill it with fire.

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@Brandyalla "I'm a leaf on the wind...watch how I......" ::weeps uncontrollably::

[@Brandyalla]

@@Philbert-s2c

[@ulrichs3061]

@@Philbert-s2c Still too soon?

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@ulrichs3061 14 years is nothing compared to my pain...

[@N0-1_H3r3]

Also, Giles going after Angelus with a flaming baseball bat is the moment of catharsis that this episode needed.

[@Suszball81]

I thought that was some kind of torch.

[@adamgannaway]

As someone who loves the deeper themes of Buffy and critically dissecting all the various aspects of the show, my nuanced analysis of this episode is...😭

[@drageonmusic6421]

Giles turning down jenny was the biggest dad move ever.

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

Throughout the series, just when I think I've seen everything Giles can do as a father figure...he does something else & I'm just speechless!

[@laerry1]

Joss Whedon was a pioneer of the rule that no character is safe. Ever since I watched Whedonverse shows I have been prepared for shocking deaths in other shows. I became a cynic.

[@terhazza]

Note how Angel lurked around until he saw the effect of the bad news - that's what he really got his kicks from, not merely knowing he had caused horrible pain upon others, but actually seeing people breaking down. Just going back to his lair to pat himself on the back was not enough.

[@h.j.froehlich326]

I absolutely love Anthony Stewart Head's performance in the scene where he understands what happened. It's a very understated emotional beat, and you can just see from the tension in his face the moment he realizes.

[@ProuvaireJean]

It's a truly amazing ensemble cast, but Anthony Stewart Head is a cut above the rest. They're all great, but some are better at comedy (eg Nicholas Brendon), some are better than drama (eg SMG), some are better at evil (eg David Boreanaz). But ASH plays every beat to perfection.

[@rjwalker1726]

That scene breaks me. He's bloody brilliant! There's another one in season 3 where his face changes and tells a whole story which is also right up there but I won't say what it is ;)

[@loftus4453]

Tony Head is an exceptional actor. He’s been in so many things.

[@apulrang]

Maybe even more heartbreaking than Giles finding Jenny’s body, is when Buffy drags Giles out of the burning building, he yells at her that it’s none of her business, she decks him, then hugs him in tears saying, “I can’t do this without you!” Their relationship has been building so gradually but steadily, and it’s beautiful. I also love the work being done with the weird little “family” of Spike, Dru, and Angel. The dynamics there are fascinating, especially since all three are nominally villains. There are several episodes in this series that can be thought of as turning points, where the quality takes a big jump, or pivotal things happen. I think this is one of them. It may be the episode where “s*it gets real” for the first time. Even “Prophecy Girl” had less weight, because the big thing that happens is resolved very quickly. This episode really sets up that this is not just an amusing teen fantasy show. It’s that too, but it’s also an epic character story.

[@ProuvaireJean]

Yes, that Buffy/Giles moment is one of the most significant markers in their progression from teacher/student to watcher/slayer to friends. In that moment - maybe for the first time - she sees him not just as mentor, but as a fellow human being. Similarly, Giles is stripped of his ability to project himself as an authority figure. He is broken, completely emotionally vulnerable, and surrenders to that vulnerability with her. "Passions", as well as amping up the stakes in the way you describe, is a pivotal episode in Buffy's relationship with both the parental figures in her life - her mom and Giles. It's soooo good.

[@juzujuzu4555]

@@ProuvaireJean Passions is amazing episode. But there's also lots of little things that are not nearly as perfect as the episode Innocence which is just amazing. Though certain aspects of Innocence are more dated, like the rocket launcher thing and the judge. One of the best thing about Passions is the music and sounds, and Angel's speech over. These aspects are used to perfection. But from the point of how many story pieces are moving perfectly and perfectly in sync in Innocence, how that episode changes everything, and how big part of what happens afterwards are actually earned with that episode, I have to say Innocence is the best episode thus far and belong on the perfect TV episodes list for sure. Assuming that we think the episodes from the perspective of 1998, I would challenge anyone to make Innocence any better. The use of rocket launcher was important, as it showed that anything in this show is possible. And Angelus born from the sex between Angel (242yr old vampire) and 16/17yr old Buffy changed the show completely, now it suddenly had another layers that were amazing even from the perspective of adults, but at the same time those things made it even better for the teens as well. Passions is the episode that collects the build up, and it uses music and speech over and the talent of the actors/actresses to maximize the effect. In itself the script isn't nearly as good as Innocence. But that's because Innocence's script is just pure gold.

[@ProuvaireJean]

@@juzujuzu4555 You won't hear me say a bad word about "Innocence" (and "Surprise"), which lit the fuse on the rocket that propelled the entire series upwards. But "Passion" is the first episode that took the proverbial sledgehammer to our face. I think its the more emotionally impactful episode. By the way, it's "Passion", singular. Passions is the one where Timmy gets trapped down the well or something. 😉

[@juzujuzu4555]

@@ProuvaireJean Yes, Passion was the sledgehammer episode, but most of it was earned by the Innocence. We just didn't take the threat seriously enough and this episode is where we really get to see that we should have. It's hard to rate Buffy episodes, as Passion is clearly the most emotionally impactful episode thus far. But if we look at the scripts and think this whole arc as a whole and look how the pieces were moved, I think innocence is the best episode thus far. But again, the use of music and score in Passion and Angel's speech over, and the "poetry" of what he says, that's just amazing. It's impact on emotional level is clearly higher than anything before it.

[@2and1things]

The scene of Giles walking up the stairs and discovering Jenny is one of my very favourite scenes in the whole show. It’s so haunting and gut wrenching.

[@fallofcamelot]

The first time I saw your reaction to Giles and Jenny’s relationship I just thought “oh no...” This episode was the first time you realise what this show is about, the premise is kinda ridiculous but the execution is anything but.

[@patrickcampbell45]

👍👍

[@shiftybea]

The male voice you hear singing over the music when Giles and Buffy are at Jenny's grave, is Anthony Stewart Head himself. :)

[@WaywardAce420]

Also, Giles, Buffy, and the other Scoobies never heard Jenny’s real name, only we the audience did, so it makes sense that they’d bury her as Jenny.

[@alleybox]

yeah i guess i just thought her family wouldve been informed?? but yeah makes sense

[@Buffy8Fan]

My issue, like alley, was that they were the ones to bury the body at all. That would be for family to do and there's a chance she had legal family within said gypsy community. We don't know that for sure, I admit, but if she doesn't, then the Scoobies burying her, and doing so under the name Jenny, makes sense.

[@1nelsondj]

In reality they don't make headstones that fast, it can take weeks even in Sunnydale.

[@ffaristocrat]

@@1nelsondj Sunnydale seems like the kind of town that would invest heavily in high speed tombstone engraving technology.

[@mayaenglish5424]

@@Buffy8Fan Yeah, but Angelus murdered her Uncle and the scoobies never learned her real name, so how would they contact her family? Plus, in the end, she chose them over her family so maybe they disowned her. who knows?

[@lenr112]

I love the way that a 20 year old show tackles things in what today still feels like a "new" way. I bet you didn't expect that.

[@connerzz8202]

I love Angel’s narration in this episode. “If we could live without passion, maybe we’d some kind of peace.” Such facts and so beautiful.

[@floramay7007]

at 23:32 ... you can compare Twilight to Buffy but don't even think about comparing Buffy to Twilight.

[@alleybox]

never will. twilight knows what it is. its teen trash romance. buffy is a lot more :)

[@floramay7007]

@@alleybox I binged BtVS last fall at school ... and I literally fell in love with Buffy and I'm very protective of her so BE WARNED !!! Love your reactions ... subbed

[@jaycievictory8461]

@@floramay7007 Buffy the character is one of my absolute faves 🥰 She's a hero.

[@jimmilligan5088]

alley box. Oh thank god you understand that. Twilight is the palest imitation

[@rukbat3]

@@ChronosTachyon I knew which video this would be without even having to click on the link. :-)

[@SixInchChaka]

That last “sparks fly” joke *chefs kiss

[@nomoresandwiches8011]

The sad meme made me both laugh and feel depressed good job.

[@Phoenixdark1]

Alley before the episode: "I just don't want Giles to be upset..." Me: Opening my bag of popcorn with a malicious grin.

[@Turalcar]

Just like 15:45

[@MagnetMagicGirl]

Am I just now noticing the "Lost Cat" poster of Angel with a collar and Buffy's "rat noises" quote of the day?! How??? It's too good???

[@TheJoscelyne]

I think what is similar between this and Ted is that real life horror factor. Abusive controlling men are real. Stalkers are real. And the show really exploits that horror.

[@MrFlashpoint1978]

And just for the sake of balance, abusive controlling women are real as well, but it's mostly less punchy and more emotional control-ly.

[@xxSydneyFox]

@@MrFlashpoint1978 yeah, my uncle's wife is a prime example! 😡

[@barbarabaker1457]

You "I'm already scared." Me in my best Tyrion Lannister "You should be. You're in the great game now, and the great game is terrifying.”

[@sk70091]

"Does he lose a soul and then become like extra horny?" Well, you remember soulless Sam, right? :D

[@eleanorshellstrop39]

👁👄👁

[@zenithquasar9623]

Music is perfection in this episode imo. And obviously so are the emotions.

[@matthewkreps3352]

And . . . The . . . Passions

[@nodiggity4283]

My favorite moment is when Angel is just looking into their house and sees them get the call. That smile knowing he's reveling in this. David is an amazing actor

[@alexh8613]

CORDELIA : Oh, my god! I invited him into my car once! That means he could come back into my car whenever he wants! XANDER: Yep. Now you're doomed to having to give him and his vamp pals a lift whenever they feel like it. And those guys never chip in for gas. A few scenes later GILES : I found a ritual to revoke the invitation to vampires. CORDELIA : Oh, thank goodness. I actually had to talk my grandmother into switching cars with me last night

[@TabbyeLynne]

Cordelia: sorry grandma, it was either you or me

[@01claudLO]

yea her grandma is dead now

[@susanmaggiora4800]

Alex H 🤣 I love Cordelia!

[@atrustyspade]

Wow I'm literally crying along with you this is wild Also Angelus' monologues in this are just exquisite. Just honest and true enough that he's even more infuriating; there's nothing more hateable than a villain that says the truth.

[@slayergirl6983]

I just noticed the Lost Cat flyer with the picture of Angel and the cat collar. 🤣 LMFAO!

lol so Alley knew all this time, the sparks fly theme was her way to tell us what was coming. Great Edit

[@DucktorDoom]

best part of the episode is angel burning the monitor thinking that's how you destroy the computer....out of touch king

[@mooble1325]

this comment made me howl lmaooooo it's the most relatable angel moment for me, a technophobic gen z

[@quinnsinclair7028]

Jenny: I know you feel betrayed. Giles: That is one of the side effects of betrayal.

[@reneezemlock7880]

NONE of us were able to articulate our feelings right after watching this episode for the first time! I honestly thought of this episode when you first got all starry-eyed about Jenny and Giles; my heart was already hurting for you when you'd get to this episode. :(

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

Speak for yourself. My feelings were poor Giles. He didn't deserve that! As for Angelus....just made me hate him more

[@Figgy5119]

I like that you try to predict things from the episode titles. Buffy's writers put a lot of effort into making clever and fitting episode titles.

[@donsample1002]

I'm pretty sure the puppy's toast. Dru doesn't have a good record keeping pets. She tends to forget to feed them.

[@wbrownshadow]

the little birdie should have been the warning in the last episode i think it was

[@jamesjohngarner]

I've always thought the peak of Angelus' evil is not breaking Jenny's neck but his grin when looking through the window at Buffy and Willow's grief. But I just realized how many reaction videos I've watched, featuring the death of loved characters. Several reactions to this episode for example, and of course, Game of Thrones. Do we actually enjoy watching these fans cry? As Cordelia says: "Great, now I'm going to be stuck with serious thoughts all day!"

[@eleanorshellstrop39]

I think I might be a psychopath because I got to much enjoyment from alleys reaction to Jenny’s murder 👀

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

*Adds to the list* Ok! You're on the list of people to watch out for

[@123animit]

Ya Basic ..... 🤭

[@marialujanortellado3610]

I enjoyed way too much, I think I might had laughed at some point.

[@bverji]

Yeah, i had been waiting for this one...now waiting for the end of the season. It i going to be ... well it'll be something.

[@PPfilmemacher]

I repeated and watched her reaction to this scene 4 times with a smile in my face So don't worry to be a psychopath you're in good company😬

[@WaywardAce420]

Okay, so in the last episode when you mentioned that Angelus wasn’t really doing anything, my jaw dropped, because I knew this was coming. I sooo wanted to warn you to have tissues but I knew that would give it away.

[@syystomu]

All this time I've internally been like "I'm so glad you're enjoying the JennyxGiles stuff because it's cute and wholesome but also oh nooooo" This is why the "oh noooo"

[@WhistleStix]

I once heard Joss or one of the writers say they gave Jenny the last name Calendar because her days were numbered. I always thought that was clever.

[@JayceMaxwell]

Welcome to the first mind-blowing, perfect 10 episode. There are more coming, but this was your intro to how things CAN be. We've been waiting for you to get here.

[@ProuvaireJean]

I'd been looking forward to this reaction in the same way that people who've read the books were looking forward to the Red Wedding. One of the things that makes this episode a standout is that the consequences of Angelus's actions are not always entirely negative: the "talk" between Buffy and Joyce is one of the best moments of their relationship in the entire series. You need to mix in some genuine love in the episode, and not just as a way to set you up to be knocked down. Willow's mini-arc is another touch: at first she's looking forward to teaching Jenny's class. Then she's disappointed when she's denied the chance. Finally she gets her wish, but at a terrible price. Also, Alyson Hannigan is THE best cryer (crier?) in the business. Her breakdowns always feel 100% authentic and it's absolutely guaranteed that when she cries, I cry. The thing about "Passions" is that Joss Whedon is credited as neither writer nor director, so it blindsides you. But while it contains shocking surprises, it's not a episode that depends on surprise for its impact; it still gets you even when you know what's coming. Inspired by this channel, I rewatched "Passion" for the first time in years. And it took me literally an hour to get myself back in order.

[@nicolecooper7514]

I've been both waiting for and dreading your reaction to this episode, especially given your love for Giles and Jenny. Man, it's heartbreaking. Giles' expression with his smile fading into a look of pure horror when he sees Jenny dead on the bed hasn't stopped haunting me since I first watched the episode.

[@Hannah-rn7td]

When you have been expecting this version of the “Sparks fly... I might die” meme since the first time she did it 😭

[@Gooseh]

Must have seen this episode more than 20 times but the scene with Buffy hugging Giles telling him she cant do this alone never fails to bring tears to my eyes. Still 1 of my all time favourite episodes of any tv series.

[@LivyRivy]

The part about "the clarity of hatred, the ecstasy of grief" is brilliant writing.

[@mparantha]

This is my favorite episode of the series thus far and one of my top 10 episodes of the whole show. One thing that this episode did was to show the characters and audience how much of a sadist Angelus really is since we've really only heard about things that he had done in the past. Up until this point, the most we've seen him do is pretty much generic vampire stuff, whereas Angelus was renowned and feared by other vampires for his viciousness. He considered the total destruction of a human being to be an artform. He is truly terrifying.

[@Barnuses]

I don't know why Giles is upset, cats bring home dead things to show affection.

[@PPfilmemacher]

This kind of comments make me wanting to se a scene where Angel sits in a Litter box with his pants down

[@claranovo787]

I could actually feel your pain and despair... oh honey, welcome to the Buffyverse! 👀

[@WSK9002]

This episode was done the way that it was, to show that Angel is gone and the monster that murdered Jenny Calendar, that's Angelus. Also, how not just evil Angelus, how much pleasure he takes in causing misery to others, to him creating Pain is like his Art.

[@Razmedivh]

Angelus is one of the greatest written/acted villains ever in season 2. It's no stretch to say this arc put this show on the map. Passions is one of the greatest episodes in tv history.

[@donsample1002]

I've always thought of _Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered_ and _Passion_ as the perfect Yin/Yang of Buffy episodes, with the whipsaw between comedy and tragedy.

[@MarisuSedai]

“Hmm, what’s this episode called? Passion..... I’m already scared.” You truly are one of us and I’m living for it. 😂

[@jaycievictory8461]

Love your icon! Wheel of Time is 🔥🔥🔥

[@MarisuSedai]

Tai’shar Jaycie Victory!

[@jaycievictory8461]

@@MarisuSedai😍😍😍 🙌🙌🙌

[@jaycievictory8461]

(I wanted to respond in kind but all I could think of was, "Death is lighter than a feather, duty heavier than a mountain", which is a bit of a downer.)

[@MarisuSedai]

Jaycie Victory I get it. I sometimes want to say “Sleep well, and wake” to people, buts that’s borderline creepy out of context. 😂

[@LDNLaura]

"Angel, shut up!" Pretty much my general view of Angel.

[@123animit]

As far as Buffy goes, there are like 4-5 episodes that I always feel sorry for first time watchers/reviewers/reactors. Passions was the first one of those episodes. 20 years gone by and this episode still evokes feelings. You did great Alley! Carry on.

[@AlxMar5]

F.I.N.A.L.L.Y. alley box.: "I'm already scared" Me: Ohhhhhh, my sweet summer child.

[@mooble1325]

the dad/daughter dynamic this ep B R E A K S me

[@haritc8462]

"if willow ever cries again it will break me" Yeah, about that...

[@SylviusTheMad]

The term "floppy disk" made more sense when they were visibly floppy. 8" and 5.25" floppies were actually floppy. Those little 3.5" floppies had a rigid case so the name makes less obvious sense (the disk inside is still floppy). The end of floppy disks has also mostly destroyed the word disk. Disk was short for diskette (a small disc). Compact discs had just arrived with their more traditional spelling, and now people don't even remember that the floppy version was spelt with a 'k'. edit: Yes, I'm old.

[@arielcarmona6660]

I remember actual floppies. Yep im old too

[@TimStCroix]

My first computer was a Commodore 64 with the 1541 disk drive... 5.25" with a whopping 170,000 byte (170 KB) capacity. Now, right this second, I'm looking at a USB thumb drive with 256,000,000,000 byte (256 GB) capacity that cost less than 3 of the 10 count boxes of floppies I used to buy and it's so small I'm worried I'll loose it in the clutter that is my desk. ( www.amazon.com/SanDisk-256GB-Ultra-Flash-Drive/dp/B07857Y17V/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=sandisk+256gb+ultra+flash+drive&qid=1597991598&sr=8-2 ) I do not miss floppy disks.

[@migmit]

> Yes, I'm old. And nerdy.

[@Eryxist]

This is my favorite reaction to the show so far. The absolute hate for Angelus, the edits, and the emotion. Keep it up, loving the reactions!

[@breadboi24601]

the fact that he doesn't even drink from Jenny was always a perfect condensed picture of who exactly Angelus is to me, I hate it but i really love it too

[@YGoody88]

The lost cat poster. Very funny 😂

[@flummoxedgiles]

This is the first reaction of yours I've seen and I already love you so much oml The amount of times you screamed Giles, and wanting Giles and Jenny to be happy- fucking same. From this point on, the show just gets so much better and better and I'm super stoked to see you get to the rest of Buffy :) -also sad fun fact about this ep, there's a song that plays during the grave site scene called "Remembering Jenny" and if you listen, there are male vocals in the background of that song and it's Anthony Head's voice - the guy who plays Giles - and that added detail just makes me want to SOB. I just found this out a couple weeks ago 😭

[@milkman8467]

I’m a supernatural superfan and consider it my favorite show but Buffy is on a whole nother level, you dont even know yet bro im so excited for you also that scene with giles being all cute and fixing his hair before seeing jenny dead on his bed is the only scene in the whole show I just cant watch. I first watched buffy like 6 years ago when i was 12 and i still cant do it.

[@gillianknox6826]

The Twilight parallels always bugged me (it's one of the maaaaany reasons I could never get into that series). It definitely feels like Stephanie was a sort of fan of Buffy and Angel who completely missed the entire point of their relationship. Namely, that it is canon abusive, and was framed as such from the beginning. Cause, like, if you remember, stalking Buffy in the Bronze was something he's been doing from season 1. That shot of him here is almost an exact recreation of shots from the beginning of Buffy and his relationship, but then it was interpreted as mysterious and romantic.

[@patrickmdunn]

This episode...this is the episode I think is the turning point for all Buffy reaction channels. I've been watching you Alley since back in season 1 when I was looking for new videos to watch during quarantine. However, if I find a Buffy reaction channel that's already deep in, I skip to this episode to see how they react to it and gauge whether its worth it to binge their whole series watch-through. You would have had me hooked, can't wait to watch the rest of the series with you.

[@mystic_tacos]

I have got to admit you are the most sincere, enthusiastic member of the Buffyverse!! As an original member who watched the series as they originally aired from Welcome to the Hellmouth to Chosen. I envy you seeing each episode and experiencing the excitement and rush. By the way, Passion is one of my faves. I love Angel's monologue.

[@charlesbaldwin3166]

You were warned Angelus has a habit of going after pets.

[@irishinnish1]

This is my all-time favorite episode. Don't worry, you have many amazing episodes to come, but this is my fav.

[@s_m_SL4Y3R]

"I just want Giles to be Happy" Oh, sweetie, honey, baby - Joss is cruel

[@lexterminate]

The reason people love this show so much is because it pulls no punches, because it’s not a show about vampires, it’s a show about the human experience with vampires thrown in as symbols of those experiences. It’s intense and it’s real and it hurts and it’s beautiful and I just have a lot of feelings. I’m so excited for you continuing this show cause it’s gonna be a ride for you.

[@MinimiMax]

This show has a few moments where the image has just... burned in my mind. Jenny's death is one of those moments. I can still remember the chills I got when watching that for the first time and I'm pretty sure this episode in general is what made this my favorite show instantly. The season itself is already brilliant but this episode is what finally hooked me for good. While Spike is my favorite character overall, Angelus is by far my favorite villain because of how personal and sadistic he is.

[@PinkyPowers]

In my mind, that is another quintessential trait of Joss Whedon's. He writes death in a way that feels real. Even in a fantasy series like Buffy, when someone dies, he writes it in a way that you FEEL, with all the pain, consequence, and finality of real death.

[@ightscameraACTION]

i havent finished the video but ive been waiting to comment this since the moment jenny was introduced so... sparks fly, it's like electricity, *I MIGHT DIE* Edit: YES you put it in ive been sitting on that for WEEKS

[@DmGray]

Decades on from my first viewing & I still cry at this episode. Even watching along with you. Such a powerful episode.

[@jakehaskins5363]

I love this show so much. I grew up with it (granted I didn't watch it til my teen years lmao) and I love your reactions to it. I love your editing style and the little jokes/memes you sprinkle in there. Hilarious, beautifully genuine. You're wonderful and I wish you the best. Keep it up!

[@Godzilla-tu2cd]

Angelus is such a great villain.

[@blacktronlego]

Love your Quote of the Day in the background, always good. but this one is brilliant!

[@artie1694]

He’s the best villain ever. It’s hard to hate and love him.

[@fallofcamelot]

No spoilers and evil Angel is a great villain but for me the season 3 BBEG is the best.

[@artie1694]

Iain Hunter-Fennell I mean because she loves him. A villain don’t get anymore worse than that. He’s Angelus. And why he’s bad is because he loves her. It’s just the worst possible villain, it makes him the best. But but season 3’s is incredible so don’t mistake my love for it.

[@cowboysdubs]

In my opinion the season 3 villain is the best

[@jasonrogers5061]

I don't usually comment, but I've been waiting for this reaction. Still stands up as one of the best episodes of any TV show ever. And cements Angelus as a proper big bad. Amazing episode.

[@Calzaki]

This is the one I've been waiting for...

[@Ordinaryguy82]

Your reactions are the absolute best, and the edits, so much awesome, totally funny and enjoyable. Also, Hello Johnathan!

[@mooble1325]

him and oz (and to a lesser extent, spike) are the short kings we need

[@TheZapan99]

That floppy disk confusion was gold.

[@dplunk13]

14 seconds in "I'm already scared". Yeah...that doesn't really go away, at least completely. Actually pretty impressed with how you relatively kept it together.

[@doyle8711]

Subbed to the Patreon a little while ago well worth it for anyone thinking about it. Full episodes and a great community.

[@RubyDianArts]

This episode was so traumatic back in the day when I was a young teen. Wow, THEY WENT THERE! They killed Jenny :'( It was amazing television.

[@ProuvaireJean]

Oh my God, they killed Jenny! You bastards!

[@gnarleytarley3870]

What I love most about this is just how true the phrase "it's a small line between love and hate". And David Boreanaz does it best. I have been patiently waiting for this episode, it's one of my favorites, I was waiting because this is what Buffy does best leaves you not knowing what to expect. Can't wait for your next video! Enjoying it.

[@LittleMissDivine]

this show and espeially episodes like passion are such gems of all tv

[@yesie8375]

This is one of my favorite episodes of the whole series. It takes such a huge turn from here. Shows us that Joss really doesn’t mind getting rid of important characters like Jenny.

[@loftus4453]

Love the changing quotes of the day and funny arrangements of the pops. The Angel poster is funny as well. I always have to zoom in to see what new thing you did in the background.