Build a Russian Scion aka SWARM MAGNET!

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Whistle Thicket

Whistle Thicket

4 жыл бұрын

Beekeepers, don't lose your bees to swarming! You have worked hard to keep your bees alive all winter, don't let them swarm and fly away! A Russian Scion, also known as a swarm magnet, is the way to go! They are easy to make, and provides an insurance policy to catch your bees on your own property, before they fly away! Every beginning beekeeper and seasoned beekeeper should make one of these!
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@unicronplanet7408
@unicronplanet7408 5 күн бұрын
Hey nice vid, i got another idea, it works very well. Drill a Pole in the ground (a small log or a stick. Put a small roof on it, and let a string hang down. Put these 10 metres near the hive. It's easy to build and effectiv. Another information: don't melt up your wax for these. Put a small hive near the swarm area, collect some beewax and let the waxmoth in. The pheromones of the eaten wax and the poo of the moth larva is like a magnet to the bees. The pheromones smell until 2 years then you have to put new larvas and wax in the hive. Important pls use just your own wax, because in america is a creepy bee sickness, that will rotten your larvas.
@humanbeeinglove
@humanbeeinglove Ай бұрын
I would recommend drilling some tiny holes into the bucket… smaller than bee-size…. Because the swarm can suffocate
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket Ай бұрын
This is 10 feet from by bee yard, so bees go straight there.
@robb4044
@robb4044 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid. That area you're in is BEAUTIFUL.
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 3 жыл бұрын
Wnc in the blue ridge mountains
@cluelessbeekeeping1322
@cluelessbeekeeping1322 2 жыл бұрын
What a neat idea! I have to make a few of these! Thanks!
@piggy59873
@piggy59873 3 жыл бұрын
just hang a couple of drained frames with empty comb in a near by tree during swarm season. they will land on it. then put them in a hive. hang about 10 ft high .
@joanhouston7007
@joanhouston7007 2 жыл бұрын
I like the bucket lid idea. I stapled wire mesh onto the 2x4 then grabbed an old paintbrush to coat it in-situ. Easier and less messy than dipping. I glopped on a few good coats and it's good to go. I like your orange tabby :)
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That’s mu, the 3 legged cat! I had a swarm land right next to the scion last year!
@robertessaryjr.2834
@robertessaryjr.2834 3 жыл бұрын
Apiary: noun; a place where bees are kept; a collection of beehives. Aviary: noun; a large cage, building, or enclosure for keeping birds.
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes! Of course I know that :) Got so many projects going on! I was actually standing near my aviary filming!
@robertessaryjr.2834
@robertessaryjr.2834 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@kipkristoff1923
@kipkristoff1923 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea...and inexpensive.
@so_cal_mom
@so_cal_mom 4 жыл бұрын
So interesting. Thank you!
@richardkut3976
@richardkut3976 6 ай бұрын
Nice bait hive, thanks.
@eastsussexbeesandwildlife5801
@eastsussexbeesandwildlife5801 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I will make one tomorrow!
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 2 жыл бұрын
It’s easy!!
@joeschultz3873
@joeschultz3873 2 ай бұрын
Scion as in horticulture. Rootstock and scion.
@TomDubYeah
@TomDubYeah 4 жыл бұрын
Please fix the audio. Can barely hear you speak then the music blows out my speakers. Other than that great video!
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! yes I checked, the audio is not great :(
@williamschulz6302
@williamschulz6302 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 жыл бұрын
Easy to make!
@reedjasonf
@reedjasonf Жыл бұрын
Two years on since this video... has it worked for you?
@amgrossenteich
@amgrossenteich 2 жыл бұрын
!!! However, do not leave the bees in this bucket for long - max.1h - otherwise they will be dead
@shanepasha6501
@shanepasha6501 Жыл бұрын
It definitely could be an additional swarm trap to your apiary system. One thing I am concerned about, and that is, once the colony lands, you better be around to lower the lid into the bucket and take them home. A conventional swarm trap would house them for a few days untill you come around and pick them up.
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket Жыл бұрын
Yes this is not designed as a permanent swarm trap but a landing spot. Often, swarms will first leave the hive and do not go directly to their new home. They land on a temporary spot near the hive and can stay for several hours until they move on. I also have swarm traps on my property, this is just another opportunity to catch usually ur own swarms.
@shanepasha6501
@shanepasha6501 Жыл бұрын
@@WhistleThicket - Good deal. That makes sense now. Thank you.
@kentmeredith2945
@kentmeredith2945 3 жыл бұрын
I think you can do the same thing with an old brood frame with dark comb. Save the trouble of melting wax and the window screen
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 3 жыл бұрын
What I like about this way is you can lower lid right into a 5 gallon bucket. With a frame, you can’t do that, the frame is wider than the bucket!
@kentmeredith2945
@kentmeredith2945 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhistleThicket I just use a medium frame
@billedwards4124
@billedwards4124 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@Citystead
@Citystead 4 жыл бұрын
Oh interesting never seen that before
@linr7342
@linr7342 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea! Also you can mist a little Anise oil on the outside, bees love that stuff. :) Where is the bee entrance?
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 жыл бұрын
Bees swarm on the outside part of the russian scion....
@linr7342
@linr7342 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhistleThicket Ah ok I thought it was like swarm trap/box. Thanks
@campdavidsonfunctionaltrai8583
@campdavidsonfunctionaltrai8583 3 жыл бұрын
why not add a few old frames instead of the wax screen thingy? Do you put the hole in the side or the bottom. I use traps but I'll try this just for fun.
@decaturridgebees8761
@decaturridgebees8761 4 жыл бұрын
This seems like a really good idea. One thing I’m curious about is why you used the window screen and didn’t just melt the beeswax on the wood? New sub here!
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 жыл бұрын
You could totally just use wood, I used the screen so I could dip it in the wax pot.
@jtelander
@jtelander 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Since there isn't a video, I assume that the bees didn't use it last year. Maybe this year will be different. One question I have is whether the bucket is necessary. If I put one up in my yard, it seems that I could simply lower the scion, spray them with sugar syrup and transfer them directly into a new hive body without the intermediate step of putting them into a bucket.
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 3 жыл бұрын
There was actually a swarm that landed on the tree! They did not go right on the scion , but same level on the tree, just opposite of the scion! My friend actually made one to lower right into a deep box and used a top the same dimensions as a deep to lower it straight in. I guess the potential problem is that you always have to have an extra hive body that isn’t being used for anything. Of course most beekeepers eventually do have extra equipment after a few years. I like the bucket method, more transportable and cheaper. Also, a small swarm I would put into a nuc box probably.
@hikmatullahpakhtoon3694
@hikmatullahpakhtoon3694 Жыл бұрын
that cat has 3 legs!
@jodyreeder4820
@jodyreeder4820 3 жыл бұрын
.....What's the update on the swarm trap? Catch anything yet? Wandering if best to touch up areas so the bees can actually crawl around without losing their grip. Gotta try.
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 3 жыл бұрын
A swarm did actually land on the tree that had the Russian scion last fall! Not on the the scion, but about 4 feet away on a branch that was at the same level. I have lived on my farm for over 7 years and a swarm has never landed there, or anywhere before, so I got to believe it helped! I will probably dip it in wax again!
@jodyreeder4820
@jodyreeder4820 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhistleThicket well, I heard taking a paint brush and painting the inside and around the entrance/outer area helps, especially allowing the bees walk on the plastic, smell the scents. Another thing being take a steel wool or similar product and run it around the said areas.
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any reason you didn't use a swarm trap box and a lemongrass oil attractant?
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 жыл бұрын
The Russian Scion is another method, an insurance policy. It’s used to attract bees when they first swarm, but before they find a permanent home, which is what a swarm trap is, at least to the bees. It is a temporary landing spot used to attract your bees to somewhere convenient instead of somewhere inaccessible, like 50 feet up in a tree.
@mr.azlansidekhamzahtokki
@mr.azlansidekhamzahtokki 2 жыл бұрын
What jacket are you wearing?
@srae1503
@srae1503 Жыл бұрын
How many swarms have you caught with this?
@hatorihanzo3431
@hatorihanzo3431 4 ай бұрын
can this not be used to catch random swarmss?
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 ай бұрын
Yes potentially. But really a better tool to catch your own swarming hives. Gives the hive a preferred landing spot before they leave your property for good to their new home.
@davidhaught84
@davidhaught84 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!!!
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Not my idea, but I guess it was used a lot more back in the day in Russia! I have 5 hives this year, hoping to expand more next year!
@kwlovesb
@kwlovesb 3 жыл бұрын
Dunno about Russian, but in English that's pronounced "SEE-ON."
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 3 жыл бұрын
No, more like sigh-on, unless you’re British maybe?
@dritch2472
@dritch2472 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you didn't just dip the wood in wax instead of using the screening? (Thanks in advance.)
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 3 жыл бұрын
My theory was the screening would give them a little better grip to land on. Im sure just dipping is fine!
@raysbees7650
@raysbees7650 4 жыл бұрын
If you put them in the bucket how are they breathing and not overheating?
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ray, I think I just responded to you on Facebook, but the russian scion is meant to catch your own bees in your own bee yard, after they swarm, but before they find a permanent new home. It serves as an attractant so hopefully when your bees find a temporary landing spot, it isn't 40 feet up and inaccessible. You would lower the bees directly into the bucket and then immediately place in their new hive. I could see needing to vent if you can't immediately place in new home. I'm making a new video soon on how it works :)
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t be a problem for the 20mins or less that they’ll actually be in there.
@robertsullivan3970
@robertsullivan3970 7 ай бұрын
Genius
@cheekybastard99
@cheekybastard99 4 жыл бұрын
Where is this located?
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 4 жыл бұрын
America
@susanmarich5487
@susanmarich5487 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sad no one has shown if it works
@WhistleThicket
@WhistleThicket 2 жыл бұрын
I had a swarm land on the branch near the Russian Scion
@JG-Zonic
@JG-Zonic Жыл бұрын
music too loud
@user-ue3to3ry2k
@user-ue3to3ry2k 8 ай бұрын
Why is called Russian? You can see on KZbin how the Russians catching bees. And I never see this construction.
@brunosturm
@brunosturm Жыл бұрын
What? Russians don't get my bees. Never
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