Build Muscle Faster: This NEW Study is Exciting

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Hey All! Feel free to check out the Alpha Progression App: alphaprogression.com/HouseofHypertrophy Read more for timestamps and measurement error discussion: Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 1:31 Part 1: The New Research 5:59 Part 2: Longer Lengths = More Growth? As mentioned in the video, lengthened supersets produced an average 0.62mm (as determined by the Bayesian analysis) more growth. Measuring muscle growth (which was done by measuring muscle thickness via ultrasound in the new study) comes with errors. The authors of this paper took 2 measurements before and after the study and reported that the typical error (TE) ranged from 0.18mm to 0.39mm. 0.62mm is above the typical error. Yet, I've seen some reference other research (such as this paper: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9246410/ ) to suggest the typical error of muscle thickness measurements for the medial gastrocnemius can range between 1.3mm to 2.1mm. Strictly speaking, this isn't the typical error of the measurement. Rather, it is what we call the minimum detectable change (MDC). Generally, MDC is calculated by multiplying the typical error by 1.96 √2 Anyhow, due to these MDC values (1.3-2.1mm), some suggest measurement error clouds our ability to sincerely say lengthened supersets grew the medial gastrocnemius more. However, I think there are a few things to keep in mind. First and foremost, the error of the measurement can vary between studies (the skill of the person taking the measurement is one such factor that contributes to this variation), and using the typical errors reported in the new study, we can calculate their MDC ranged from 0.5mm to 1.1mm (thus slightly better precision than the other study example). Secondly, typical error and MDC are generally used to determine if a group or condition saw an increase (which is called within-group/condition changes), rather than compare two different conditions/groups (which is called between group/condition changes). Although, since MDC may generally give us a value to think about error, I understand why some may use it to compare between group/conditions changes. But just keep in mind in all the exercise science studies I've read, I've yet to come across a study discussing typical error or MDC in the context of comparing changes between two groups. Thirdly, it goes both ways. Measurement error can lead to the overestimation of an effect or an underestimation (i.e. the difference between lengthened supersets and normal training could have been greater than 0.62mm). Fourthly, when it comes to hypertrophy, I think using the MDC to determine if there's a true change between conditions/groups might be too strict. As noted in the video, muscle growth is a slow process. Most studies just last 6-12 weeks, and in the timeframe, we generally see a within-group/condition increase in muscle thickness of 1-2mm for the calves. Needing a difference equal to or greater than 1.1mm to say there was a difference between groups might be too unrealistic. Finally, when our data suggests there could be a difference between groups (even if the difference is below values of the MDC), using other literature to inform our decision could be worthwhile. In the context of this lengthened superset study, we have other research (the broader literature on training muscles at longer length) which would suggest lengthened supersets may indeed build more muscle.

[@AbdulGhani-vm6oq]

Arthur Jones was talking about this many years ago. Once you reach momentary muscular failure. Continue doing partials until you cant do anymore partials. Thats when the set ends.

[@yeshuasaves7911]

I see this idea as encouraging absolute breakdown in form toward the end of the superset. I would be more inclined to do sets with perfect reps that are followed by concentrating on the eccentric for the second part of each rep. Using your muscles in reverse provides a great deal of strength.

[@simonsays6968]

😊

[@zombywoof1072]

Lengthened supersets? They were called *_burns_* in the 70's... and probably long before that. But I started WT in the 70's so that's what I can say for sure.

[@mikecar52]

ridiculous price

[@Viking_Raven]

For amyone who knows how slow it is to put on muscle. A 40% increase is astronomical. The fact that the difference is measurable in MM is already a sign of how notably this is.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Agreed!

[@psngaming3796]

That group did more work so maybe just an effect of completing more volume load but very promising 👌

[@jasoooni9002]

@@psngaming3796 Yes this is true, however also realise that the only way to achieve this extra volume is through the lengthened partials because they reached failure in a full ROM. So even if it is an effect of more volume, it is directly related to the lengthened supersets because of the nature of reaching failure and then doing more.

[@MrBopper2888]

Also this is on untrained individuals.

[@exerciserelax8719]

​@@jasoooni9002 They could have added another set instead, after a rest period (perhaps at lower weight/reps). The lengthened superset would seem to be more time-efficient, but that depends on how effective the extra set would be.

[@MakoTheFrog]

oh my god. the gymbros were right all along. this can't be happening.

[@Srindal4657]

Why? Is there something wrong about a gymbro being right?

[@a1dxnn]

@@Srindal4657😭😭

[@albuquerquehotspot7835]

@@Srindal4657only when they’re too dense to listen to the gym bros, you know, the people who know from experience 😉

[@Johnpdf]

Ima be real the gymbros are almost always right when you deep dive into the science in general alot of the gymbro science is fairly accurate kinda sad because alot of them act like asses if they know you follow the science

[@pwnwin]

@@Srindal4657 a lot. Dude probably thinks gymbro are just superstitious lifters who have no idea what they are doing.

[@nikodemus6315]

This type of research gets me hyped! And eager to get back into gym

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Best of luck on your return to the gym! 💪

[@nikodemus6315]

@HouseofHypertrophy cheers guys love your content

[@chouhotan6938]

43% muscle increase with SRAM, Test, Anabol cycle 😅

[@onerider808]

A “study” with 23 people is not research.

[@gamingconcord7650]

A

[@yahdood6015]

Boss: why did you quit? Me: I prefer the term, volitional failure.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

😂😂😂

[@Boboboy55]

😂

[@xbebisx8224]

Took the words right out of my mouth😂

[@ArmadusMalaysia]

"Steven, you're still a failure!"

[@lars1480]

Whats new here ? You have to train hard

[@Claframb]

Partials, cheat reps, isometrics, negatives and forced reps are generally easier to do than full ROM rep. If you think about it, these types of techniques are actually used as a dropset so you're getting an additional set done in a short amount of time. IMO for this reason, a lot of HIT training was actually 2 top sets, not one: a topset and a dropset.

[@Ty-oe4dr]

lots of those hit guys would work within 3 rir and call it a "warmup" set too, so they might have been getting more volume than we realize

[@Claframb]

@@Ty-oe4dr brilliant point. Thank you

[@MaximusAdonicus]

@@Ty-oe4dr Evidence? At least Mentzer and Yates advised NORMAL warmup sets, not balls to wall warmups! Also 3RIR is still a warmup! I've been bb'ing for almost 17 years and I almost always work in the 0-1RIR range in worksets. And it's only the last 2 reps when it gets difficult! Thus anything below that is still easy and even with my experience it would be very hard to guesstimate 3RIR! Basically it's just the point BEFORE it gets difficult. I think it was Mike from RP who talked about this 3RIR method and I thought it was ridiculous, u are basically cutting the effective reps in half, thus leaving gains on the table, maybe not even making any gains at all...

[@McCarthy1776]

I realized how useful isometrics were after I got a severe case of Rhabdomyolysis and heat exhaustion and fucked up my nervous system for a long time. I was shaking and getting faint and sick if I ever did any heavy sets to failure with full ROM. I was throwing up every workout and couldn't lift heavy at all. So I basically started rehabilitating from scratch and just started doing isometric squeezes while watching TV, while at work etc. now I'm back to normal but I still do them throughout the day for smaller muscles I may have neglected or things I feel need more work. Or if I'm at home with no weights and don't have time to go to the gym. I'll do max effort isometric holds after bodyweight sets. Great tool.

[@stevethea5250]

what topset means ?

[@BakedPretzel]

This makes me so happy, ever since the lengthened partials research came out I’ve been super setting them at the end of every set so good to know I’ve been training right.

[@casperamandusjohansen]

Wow! implementing immediately on every exercise all the time.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

😂😂😂 #science

[@VandreBorba]

Very true.

[@MrBopper2888]

Lol 😂

[@darrencooper7592]

Try it on Heavy squats first🤪

[@nvmffs]

@@darrencooper7592 Use a stool or something.

[@charon7320]

fresh gym person here, doing for 5 months exactly this, train to failure and superset with lower weight, in pause I train another group, everybody was telling me I'm wrong but felt it and now after 5 months everyone says I'm on gear or 'what u do is not correct but u got results cuz good genetics', in reality I workout hardcore 4-6 days a week, supersets all the time, train whatever I feel is untrained even lower back and parts of abdomen, I diet totally with various foods, took out all sweets, I dont drink sodas, not even preworkout, I just go water, steaks and fruits + lately some protein shake cuz it's summer and it's hard for me to eat so much. My results are amazing, I am amazed by myself, my brother started working out harder cuz of me (he does abdomens now all the time like I do), my gym friends took me as equal, my parents think I'm going over the border with this but it's just a bit of dedication since I already lose time pulling irons at gym, why not go all the way and diet and have the mindset, also I dont lift for counting reps, I lift to feel the muscle working, I dont do cheat moves where I pull with other muscles I just go lower weight and continue.

[@andi8489]

Machine!

[@charon7320]

@@andi8489 my favourite exercises are shoulder press apparatus, dont know the name but I already pull full stack correctly 4-5 reps tho I dont do 90kg, normally 50-60 kg, dips is another exercise I love and seated smith biceps (I think it's the name), I simply cannot get enough of them, I'm doing a few sets regardless of what I do in the gym, I do them out pleasure. I dont like working out chest and I admit that upper leg part feels a bit like grind, but we cannot have it all. lately I lost more than 10% of body weight but cant eat as much as I need and yeah I have a normal life, working studying and not everyday I reach optimum food requirements or rest, but we need to press on!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Abba-dabba-doo]

I'm new here, but wow. This guy really goes above and beyond. The animations, honesty about potential limitations about the study, and the notes summary at the end... goddamn. This channel deserves attention

[@habibsspirit]

I've been doing this intuitively for a long time. I also beyond-failure negative-only sets. For example in the triceps rope pull-downs, once you reach failure (no ability to pull the rope down anymore), use your body to sink down (squat or stay on one knee) and then rise up again fast, leaving your arms fully extended, then slowly perform the eccentric portion of the tricep pulldown (rope going up slowly and controlled using the triceps only).

[@serban2139]

I've never done anything crazy for my triceps and quads for instance and they're the best muscles I've got. Lengthened sets are like creatine, it works, but it's not why you're huge..

[@OnlyFitStuff-pj2zf]

@@serban2139 your comment sounds like you're saying a rule instead of just sharing your experience

[@RJ-01]

Rope doesn’t hit tris need to use a straight bar otherwise you are working the smaller muscles on the outside of the arm and not effectively using the major tricep muscle, which is the one you need to grow

[@GearZNet]

So cheat reps? Broscience wins again.

[@joly3122]

Yes, I always knew cheating was the way to go

[@lordplebius483]

Another W for the bros

[@nvmffs]

I wouldn't call them cheat reps but post-failure reps

[@aaconvict]

Nothing about it is cheating. Rather than hyper extending or full range lock out of the exercise, you'll see and feel better results with partial - almost but not full range motion keeping constant resistance and time under tension on the muscle. By the time you're done, I guarantee you that you'll feel more fullness in the targeted muscle group. Also keep a tempo in mind. slow towards the point of resistance and explosive lifts.

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

​@@aaconvict what I heard from other smart person

[@samzavala6278]

Thank you for including the limitations that were found in the study as well. You’ve built a lot of credibility by doing so

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Thank you for the kind sentiment 😃

[@lecobra418]

I've seen a video yesterday on how inmates do their push-ups, they basically do legthened partials, and the dude in the video stated he wanted to stubbornly do full ROM push-ups and wouldn't get as much gains as they do. He then started doing lengthened partials push-ups and got gains very rapidly. Lengthned partials is something I will try to implement, in my training. Today I did four reps in that state because I was exhausted (cooked actually) and wanted to finish my set, and immediately noticed the time under tension and stretch is simply insane. It almost feels like an isometric contraction, the tension is continued, so does the stretch. Lenghtened superset is something I sometimes do on some exercises, I call them "baby set", "lenghened superset" sounds more professional though. 😂

[@Vali00_sw]

Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes I experienced the same burning sensation when I started to train with a friend of mine and it's just mind blowing...but it s true...I also saw Chris Bumstead saying to David Laid to always train to exhaustion in every set...so the cheated reps is the way to go after the actual set

[@Major.Tom.1973]

Thank you HoH for providing another tool in my toolbox, will definitely experiment with this 🙏🏻🙌🏻

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Thank YOU for the support!

[@AvrgLifterAvrgTrainer]

I appreciate you bringing the data to the forefront with easy to understand dialogue.

[@JamalKhan-hk3ty]

Consistency over years n years

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Consistency is certainly foundational!

[@technolus5742]

Consistently doing things that don't contribute much to hypertrophy won't really do much in that regard.

[@farrellviardisa1947]

@@technolus5742 i know right. its mutually exclusive, just because someone is implementing a certain lifting technique doesnt make them incosistent.

[@technolus5742]

@@farrellviardisa1947 Never said anything about being inconsistent. *What I actually said:* *Consistency is not enough on its own.*

[@anthonytran4942]

Diet sleep and recovery, if you don’t have those 3 keys in check, you’re not gonna grow no matter how you train

[@BigJDinSC]

The world desperately needs more House of Hypertrophy videos. Global peace is possible with more regular HoH uploads.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Haha, unfortunately it's just me (one person) making the videos, so it does take a while for me to put these together!

[@kchuen]

@@HouseofHypertrophykeep fighting for world peace bro!

[@arthurmiranda8896]

Will try this with my shoulder and calf training today. Thanks for the info.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

I hope you have a great training session!

[@Johnny-tw5pr]

What's your split?

[@ocoltimus6592]

This was a very informative video. As a fellow scientist I really liked how you presented the work, very cautios with your assertions. Very nice video! I will try this technique in the gym. And btw, new sub.

[@ThaKKatt]

Oh I been doing these since I started following Stronger By Science and Milo Wolf, they've been a great fresh new addition to my longtime muscle fathers, Renaissance Periodization. Honestly though, House of Hypertrophy might be the best science communication. Its like Kurzgesagt for getting swole. HoH is like the Hank Green of thickness.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Thank you so much, that is a seriously kind compliment!

[@L1qhts]

I love that my intuitive training style is proven effective both by the mirror and by this channel time and time again. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing I guess

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Awesome to hear you've been seeing results, I wish you continued gainz 💪

[@thecorruptversion]

Wow, you're so smart and such a pioneer. Nobel people are waiting for you.

[@L1qhts]

@@thecorruptversion thanks man, I really appreciate that! Have a great day!

[@trump45and2zig-zags]

​@@thecorruptversionlol good try 🧌

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

@@L1qhtsyou’re such a douche kid 😂

[@1bingo123]

Apartment of Atrophy just dropped a bangerr📈📈📈🔥🔥🔥 Really he did😤

[@bateloche]

I love how you treat science with respect, warning about generalization concerns, not telling anyone to just do the lengthened exercises that you are going to have wonderful results. Best of luck!!

[@Kokii87]

It's funny, I have been training like this for a year, doing a compound set of partial reps once my main set is done, it actually feels good yet challenging and has lead me to great progress.-

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Awesome to hear, I wish you continued gainz!

[@judasblewit]

So you do your normal workout till failure then partial reps after that?

[@nvmffs]

What do you mean by compound set

[@Muphenz]

This will definitely give me something new that I can experiment with in my workout routine. I can't wait to learn more about lengthened supersets, especially from HOH!

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Thank you for the long time support dude! Hope all is going great, and I hope any experiementation with lengthened supersets goes well!

[@Muphenz]

Definitely! You and your content are amazing, and I always enjoy learning new things.

[@Siggfuggggg2000]

Yeah it increased it by 40% but that was over a short 10 week training cycle. It’s like saying you are going double the speed limit when you are going 10mph in a 5mph zone. I’m pretty skeptical if this would still be anywhere near a 40% increase in the long run. I’d like to see some longer experiments

[@Sinsofcarolina]

I’ve heard this called “lengthened partials” by the Renaissance Periodization channel. Mike has been preaching this for some time.

[@ickerolig]

Yeah, it's also called cheat reps by some. It's basically a way to ensure you train to failure.

[@mushshrap6471]

I've always thought training with lengthened supersets when using resistance bands was the way to go. I'm glad to see this research that helps back that up.

[@rdance3]

I saw something like this a few years back. It talked about gymnasts' bycepts and how big they get because they spent much time in the hanging/lengthened position. It's why I always go all the way down doing curls.

[@blazinchalice]

Keep crushing it, HoH!

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Thank you my friend, I appreciate your support!

[@ivanpavlov7260]

I think people should be really careful implementing this into their training routine, once they get to know how their body recovers/adapts to resistance training. Because, although lengthened partials do show increase in muscle growth, the recovery is the tricky part. It might postpone their next training session, and potentially miss those potential gains, just an introspective.

[@GabrielBacon]

I recover like 200 days between workouts so I should be good

[@dakinebrah6246]

Found out my chest grew from a 42in to 47in. From mixed calisthenics and body building, made some gains 💪 😎

[@TyTalks2020]

What I've been doing and have seen progress with is doing my partials first and then 'supersetting' with the full range of motion reps. So doing 10, long length partials and then immediately trying to do as many full range of motion reps that I can. Been incredibly painful but instead of just feeling that burn on the last rep or 2, now it's easily for almost the entire set of full range reps.

[@stormtraders]

That doesn’t make sense, you’re compromising your working set that way and working set should be clean.

[@TyTalks2020]

@@stormtraders whatever you say.

[@coffie4236]

I have trained like this for the past year and people are surprised of my progress. I know some others that do this too and they are also bigger than others or at least faster growing

[@pranavsailor3394]

I don’t really understand this video can if possible can you explain he is trying to say

[@huntersmark917]

This video pretty much explains what "failure" is when performing reps. Failure isn't trying to get one last "full" rep. Failure is going until you can't even move the weight anymore. Most people don't understand this or push themselves to true failure. This is not a new idea.

[@lydez1042]

sam sulek type of training

[@_baller]

Guys on so much gear tho

[@anon-842]

Sam Sulek is actually optimal? 🤔

[@_baller]

@@anon-842 no such thing as optimal, just train and eat, and if you get results you’re good, optimal is such a wide range, Arnold is optimal, not Sulek

[@joojotin]

​@@_ballerArnold is literally idiot training wise

[@conlangknow8787]

​@@_ballerthere's no such thing as optimal eh? That means Arnold is nonexistent!

[@davidd5226]

My takeaway is rather than do a drop set or two with full ROM, do partial reps (ie keep going) with the same weight past failure and stop when the burn becomes too intense to bear. Also to do this every second week rather than every workout.

[@mannyblackstar]

Your animations is what keep me motivated to workout harder and become like this jacked up Yellow Guy 😂

[@animemugenarena]

I do this all the time using common sense, when I reach failure I always do half reps because I feel my muscle can do more in this range and I'm living things on the table .. so it make sense.

[@nvmffs]

But that way you're gonna be weak in the shortened ranges because you're putting much more emphasis on the lenghtened ranges. Take lat pulldowns for example. The hardest part is when the muscle is shortened and it seems counter-intuitive to dedicate more volume to the easiest part. I did the opposite for a while and paid off tremendously. Gained like 20% more strength in a month , even though I'm a veteran in the gym.

[@animemugenarena]

@@nvmffs This is true but if you are doing only half reps, but as I said I do full range of motion reps first, and when I can't do any more rep I do partial reps.

[@ariklotia3958]

Thank you, I could apply this to how I go about my work outs

[@MrAkatsukio]

Lengthened Partials is a freaking gamechanger on Cable lateral raises. Cant get it up? Just do half the motion for a few more squeezy reps. Bursts your side delts and feels amazing.

[@Antonio_Serdar]

What does not being able to get it up have to do with side delts?

[@Antonio_Serdar]

I tried this but I still can't get it up

[@QuagaarWarrior83]

The problem with partials is that you first need to know what full ROM is - most people don't seem to have a clue

[@grantwerner7332]

Not really. If you start off at a non full ROM, you're still getting what this describes, lengthen partials.

[@QuagaarWarrior83]

​@@grantwerner7332 if someone is unknowingly doing partials, sees this video and decides to cut their ROM in half, they'll only be doing quarter ROM!

[@banan4990]

​​@@grantwerner7332i think its moreso that people dont know what a full stretch is. Most people innately know how to contract a muscle like the bicep, but feeling a stretch under load is usually less intuitive

[@powerhouse1981]

@@grantwerner7332 and you will likely destroy mobility and get stiff, which causes imbalances and injuries.

[@Doomthepixarkid]

Hold the stretch or add the pulses into the stretch position for greater hypertrophy! I’m doing it the next time I go

[@classmcsass1775]

Amazing find! These are the types of videos I want in my recommendations

[@Pwnr145]

I've found integrated partials on chest flys and skull crushers to be exceptionally hypertrophic

[@Leonidas-eu9bb]

Of course lengthened partials are more effective than full ROM. It's because it's impossible to keep muscle tension high during full ROM. Every full ROM exercise has parts with very little tension (top half of a most pushing and bottom part of most pulling exercises).

[@LevysFitness]

Amazing, as always. Best evidence based channel in the world, and I can sign that.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Wow, thank you so much for the kind words. I really appreciate that

[@705tv]

As always, You make my brain happy so my body is happy 🙌🏽

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

That is very nice to hear haha, thank you!

[@705tv]

@@HouseofHypertrophy Bro, people are not talking enough about how intelligent you are !! To create videos like this, it's work ! And I'm so grateful to follow only smart people dropping knowledge like this !!! Take care of you, eat well, stay healthy and connected to your ancestors, your higher-self will be so grateful 🙏🏽

[@RoidfreeSenior]

Worth a shot

[@spawnterror]

I can confirm that! My chest and biceps are now 43% bigger. I went to do legs session too and now my chest and biceps is 86% bigger.

[@lildookie]

I always see the biggest guys in the gym doing partials

[@JohnyRelax]

Thanks Brother.

[@WanerRodrigues]

Very cool!! We need a study on lengthening exercises in trained individuals, to understand once and for all if there is a limit to this potential, because if there isn't I think it's worth the cost of fatigue for sure

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

That data is coming soon! Although this specific upcoming study is on lengthened partiasl vs full ROM. Thus, the results of the study may not neccessarily tell us exercises that training at longer lengths is better (i.e. does a seated leg curl still build more muscle in trained folks than a lying leg curl).

[@WanerRodrigues]

@@HouseofHypertrophy Nice!!

[@nvmffs]

What about "ranges you don't train in, you remain weak in " ? I don't want to be big but disfunctional when trying to pick up something heavy in my daily life

[@SupaMarioGaming]

I think its more, do full ROM and then fatigue with partial reps. Thats what I'm gonna try anyway! I've done something similar on triceps and it helped alot

[@The_Man_In_Red]

Alright I'll be giving this a try 💪

[@adammieloch8487]

A superset with an isometric hold at a lengthened position would be also super interesting ;) would it count as occlusion training, while a muscle remains highly contracted and prevents blood inflow/metabolite removal?

[@franknittiBJKU]

Yes that's what i was thinking! Dr. Mike recently talked about pausing reps at the stretched position to get more hypertrophy.

[@Tom_The_GCT]

ive noticed that when gravity is pulling on my muscle in a stretched position that gives me a lot of results in terms of growth. like with a dumbell curl you curl it up and then when you let the weight go down and focus on the essentric where you have to work against gravity then the full stretch after the maximum essentric has been reached that stretch seems to give in both my calves and biceps the biggest growth. started applying this for me and my gymbro and our calve size has sky rocketed, my bro his calves were almost non existent and now we applying this after 3 years of training and only now we see significant growth in the calves, so there is smth to the stretched position

[@toni6194]

Like everybody has been already doing this. Baby reps, baby

[@mastermindrational1907]

Wow I believe this. Do partial sets but on what you feel is your last rep in your set, do a static hold for a few seconds fully contracted.

[@eNoqfOu]

Anything that offers more time under tension where endurance does not become the focal point of failure = king.

[@HDLifter]

I only train with 1/3 reps. Which has been a game-changer the past 2 years. A single set, once weekly, brought my calves up to 18”.

[@jasperdemuynck]

To be fair, they did do this on the calves which are the only big type 1 heavy muscle in the body, so doing these extra reps in this manner is both more doable for that body part and the higher reps are more effective for it. In fact, an old bodybuilding hack for forcing calf growth is daily sets of super slow movement (move so slow you can barely see machine change position)

[@petepan1330]

Dante Trudel was right, as usual, stating that it would be much more effective to have sets of twins while doing most studies! Good video, subscribed!

[@Blaize__]

Wait, I DO want to build muscle faster!!! How does this man know? :O

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

😂😂😂

[@joshseraphim3902]

Lengthened Partials for the win baby

[@rizzwan-42069]

I have a video idea. Make a video on what's naturally achievable for most people and what peak natty physique looks like.

[@E8oL4]

damn, I am really impressed by the quality of this video

[@FCMorba]

Also thank you, great content as always :)

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Thank YOU for checking it out!

[@dexterm2003]

Been consistently using lengthend focused training since the first few studies came out and it has been highly effective. One arm cable rows with versa gripps are my go to back exercise. On the lengthened side the unilateral movement allows me to side bend and feel a lat stretch all the way down at its lower insertion near C3/C4. I will do 5-20 full reps from that lengthened position to handle at my side. Then I do 5-20 more reps up until my elbow reaches my side then I will do 5-20 more essentially shoulder shrugs with a straight arm. When I can comfortably hit 15-20 on each portion I move up in weight and start back at 5. I keep my lower back at a stable angle slightly forward but to que rounding of the upper back to maximize stretch. I have consistently been able to make gains over the past 6-9 months starting at 75 lbs and I now use 105 lbs for my working sets. Unilateral is great for really milking the stretch and maximizing SFR (stimulus to fatigue ratio). If you don't have good straps like versa gripps are you really even training your back?

[@xenekrren]

5:34 very true, but actual failure does still yield more results, but then again more fatigue

[@Daejus]

Crazy gonna try it out awesome vid

[@UCzDwella201]

This is what science is about. Experimenting, research, and changing or developing our current understanding of the world.

[@hans1783]

I still remember the first time I do leg day. I overdid it so much, thinking "I don't feel that tired. Let's do some more." The next morning, I fall in the middle of the street and couldn't go back up, I literally had to call my roomate to come down and help me get up. ( FYI, 5:33 this was the exercise that I got carried away with). That experience always stick with me when exercising my legs, just follow the workout routine and if it feels too easy, only give a tiny increase on the NEXT SESSION. So my question would be, "How do u do Lengthen Supersets on ur legs?" I mean I still need them the next day.

[@Error-jt7lx]

I think it would have been interesting to see if a superset of a long vs short dominant exercises (e.g. tricep push down vs overhead extension) if that would work better to fully destroy the muscle

[@yudistiraliem135]

I’m a bit concern about the fact that they are new to workingouts since workingout hard has been shown to thicken the muscle temporarily for a couple weeks to a month. Also new guys grow different with trained individual.

[@mattbarker1943]

Hilarious how the science tried to push all the gym bros away from doing partial reps and into stopping 5 reps from failure... Then to turn around and prove that going to failure before doing lengthened cheat reps beyond failure was better. Luckily I just kept doing the meathead thing the whole time 😂 good work scientists

[@petertone1616]

Lucky we dont all listen to the science" and continued to make gains training to failure.

[@experiment54]

Make it hurt….then make it hurt some more….

[@panic_diver]

This is one thing about which I would never listen to a scientist who doesn't grind like a gym bro who has all the experimental evidence. Usually its the science that brings the evidence but we already have all this evidence from thousands of guys around the world who have built muscle and know what works. If you are natty, train to failure, push out partial reps when you cant do full ROM and for some exercises if full ROM transfers the tension to a different muscle then keep the ROM within the range where you are still hitting the desired muscle and squeeze out partials to revel in the sweet pain of growth.

[@Zerophimable]

You can just say you didn’t listen to the whole video bro.

[@mattbarker1943]

@@Zerophimable sure I did, they have a new special secret technique now and then he said something that contradicted everything else that's been said prior, then made several caveats so none of what was said was relevant and could be either right or wrong anyway. Much the same as all the other fickle science based videos that keep popping up

[@balledout30]

We train at long length for muscle growth, we use full ROM for functionality and standardization of movement.

[@DavidHaynesGK]

Volume load is everything on this, and yes, I watched the video. But what this is saying... you do more, you get more growth!!! OMG. Big Surprise.

[@1.Superman]

And Mike Mentzer told that years ago!!

[@Maxime_]

Even decades ago.

[@chip5207]

Doing mikes program right. Guy was a genius. His program is giving me the same results of my previously strenuous training and I’m only in the gym about an hour a week now !

[@1.Superman]

@@chip5207 Share your routine man

[@yipperdeyip]

I'll keep doing heavy duty HIT. All these "scientists" are full of crap and running around in circles. Brad Schoenfeld does a lot of these studies on volume and failure training. Look up how he actually trains to failure... HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TRUE FAILURE IS LOL. How can anyone trust him then. Don't get me started on the RIR nonsense

[@KomikerLachtGern]

Pls the Routine would be nice haha​@@chip5207

[@zombywoof1072]

Lengthened supersets? They were called *burns* in the 70's... and probably long before that. But I started WT in the 70's so that's what I can say for sure.

[@stewartkay3391]

crazy how people think that failure is reached when u can’t hit the squeze in a movement. for me, that’s the halfway to failure then finally failing like described in the vid, when u can’t move the godamn weight anymore.

[@_blubomber6070]

Always thought this was an intuitive way of training nice to know it's a real thing!

[@tjjensen]

Wonderful! Thanks for teaching us

[@tristan6773]

training to failure is most important. what your mind thinks is failure, is usually 2-3 reps off failure.

[@WhereLol-qw1tg]

This is just saying more volume equals more growth, which, up to a point, is something basically everybody already knows. How you choose to add that volume - through extra sets, or "lengthened supersets" or whatever - is up to you.

[@soldier_b0y]

Can we get a video about the neck training? 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

I'm currently working on a forearm guide, but I do have neck training on the list too!

[@soldier_b0y]

@@HouseofHypertrophy Thank You Sir 🫡

[@Silverpump]

​@@HouseofHypertrophywhen is the forearm video online?

[@ERVYES]

Nah, best channel in the world, I could get a degree in biomechanics and biology just by watching this channel

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Haha, thank you my friend!

[@NYMballislifeMLB]

Did they measure volume load displacement (sets * reps * distance (cm)? I think this would be a good indicator of how much more "distance" was completed.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Unfortunately no, volume load was merely sets x reps x load

[@TylorLahti]

Staff at front desk: “sir, this is good advice. You still need your Membership card to get in”

[@Scorpinock]

The artist who does the muscle bodies is amazing

[@AustinHillJD]

I am so frickin' confused at this point--between HoH, RP, and Jeff Nippard, I feel like we are getting some vortices of conflicting information. It seems like there are now studies showing that "Straight sets are best," and "long length partials are best," and now this is, "actually, a super set (really kind of a drop set, in this case?) with a shortened partial is best."

[@clutch44444]

Jeff Nippard and HoH are trustworthy, as much as I like Dr Mike as a person, his stuff isn't valid

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Hey dude! Apologies if I've contributed to any confusion, let me try to clarify some things. It may be worth double checking what the others have said to ensure you've correctly interpreted what they're saying. I can only speak for myself, but I've never actually outright said straight sets/long length partials/or lengthened supersets are best. Throughout the videos at the HoH, I have detailed various studies that, if we simply accept the findings at face value, may lead to some of those conclusions. But as done in this video, we need to consider the limitations of the study and think how it fits into the overall scientific literature. From this, we can derive *potential* conclusions. Right now, my current thoughts I don't believe we can outright say lengthened partials or lengthened supersets are 100% better. We simply need more studies with other exercises and demographics (such as trained individuals). Yet, since the available evidence is promising, I think it's fine for people to experiement with any of these strategies as they see fit. Also, as detailed around 8:00 - it's possible lengthened partials are still better than lengthened supersets, but more studies is needed before we can say anything with certainity. Finally, if you don't want to explore and try out of these strategies, that's absolutely okay. Remember you still see growth with pretty much any training strategy providing you're putting effort in. Let me know if there's still confusion and I'll do my best to clear it up :)

[@AustinHillJD]

@@HouseofHypertrophy Yo! No apologies at all--love your channel, and RP, and the Nip. Pure gratitude from my end of things. I do try to implement a science-based approach to lifting, so--yeah, I usually try to give the approaches recommended by these studies a shot. I also didn't mean to imply that you (or Mike or Jeff) ever insist that there is only one way to do something...but there usually is SOME sort of recommendation/conclusion offered. I also think that you are all just presenting the best information available, and my frustration is directed towards that--the information seems to sometimes be in conflict. So for example: The long length partials thing--I think both Jeff and Mike hit that viewpoint pretty hard. Like here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXWqo3SeYtyChdU) Mike says, "I don't lock out my calves anymore. Could I be missing out on some hypothetical benefit? ...I think that's likely. But on the net aggregate for muscle hypertrophy, should you still be biasing the majority of your training into lengthened position? Yes. ...if you're missing out on a huge tension stretch part, I think you're making a big mistake." In that video, Milo Wolf responds, "As far as technique goes, biasing the lengthened position, whether via partials or full range of motion, seems to be one of the only things we really, empirically know." And then here is the Nip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKXTeWdjrat6h6s "Seven of eight studies show long length partials are better for muscle growth than short range partials, one study found no difference, and no studies favored short range partials." 🤷🏻‍♂🤷🏻‍♂ This is just an example--I'm not sure I can find the "straight set" video I was thinking of. I am one hundred percent not trying to bash anybody, or complain about the amazing, free information you all provide. I seriously love getting all of this information. Just trying to put a program together and going, "Well now what the fuck do I do!" haha. I'm ultimately concluding: work hard and don't over think it. Seriously--appreciate your videos and approach. I realize that I was complaining about free info, and I apologize.

[@HouseofHypertrophy]

Oh no worries at all! I certainly did not interpret your message as complaining or anything of that sorts! My current thinking is that although we indeed have emerging evidence suggesting partials at long lengths may be superior, the quantity and quality of this evidence is currently not enough for me (just my person view) to throw out full range of motion training all together and just train with lengthened partials. All of the current studies have been done on untrained subjects, and there are tons of exercises that haven't been studied yet (like squats, bench presses, etc.). If we indeed have future research that finds lengthened partial training successfully builds more muscle in trained indivduals and other exercises, then we can begin discussions on training programs composed entirely of lengthened partials. But for now, I think it's perfectly fine for you to not overthink it and just train with a normal full ROM on your exercises. You are 100% still going to grow provided you're training hard enough and recovering well. Yet, if just for fun you would like to experiement with some lengthened partial or lengthened supersets in your own training with any exercises you would like to try them out on (there's no hard rules on this, it would just be what you personally would like to do), that can be a fine thing to do. But if you don't want to do this, rest assured that's okay. Hope this helps!

[@oneanamoly]

That's why I just train. Too much conflicting science just makes one confused and ends up with paralysis by analysis.

[@adomasgaudiesius]

Just seems like more volume, so more growth

[@FutureProductionz239]

Or time under tension

[@Antonio_Serdar]

Not really...there are studies showing that training in the stretched position alone is better than full rom

[@ht-cr3ms]

An interesting video yet it is a little too technical to understand for average gym folks! any practical recommendations that put this research into practice that we can try?

[@ForzaOwnz]

Been doing this since the explosion of research about lengthened partials. Been seeing amazing progress hypertrophy wise. It's funny because everyone's always poked fun at "gym bros" doing half reps. Now you're probably picturing them doing them extremely fast, which probably isn't as good as slow eccentric which has now been showed to be very beneficial. However, one may argue more reps at that lengthened position may be just as good as fewer, slower lengthened reps but possibly with higher chance of injury due to the reps being quicker. Based on this I really believe that Full ROM + Lengthened partials to finish off the last set is up there with the most effective you can be. I have been experimenting with alternating reps between Full ROM and lengthened partials while finishing off with lengthened partials once Full ROM fails on some exercises such as cable laterals and machine chest flys. That I have enjoyed a lot

[@anon-842]

The lengthened partials research is hilarious because full ROM is the most advocated advice of all time, and it turned out to be bad advice. 99% of fitness channels just got destroyed.

[@feelzgoodmane6517]

The gym-bro 'half rep' is still stupid. The point of the video is doing lengthened partials AFTER a set of full ROM, deep-stretched repetitions might be a good thing. The cherry on top. But lengthened reps are hardly the meat and potatoes.

[@Han-nk3io]

I have been doing this since i used a program called Big Beyond Belief it called muscles active range.

[@argonkrux9873]

@@feelzgoodmane6517doesn’t that mean they are doing partials 😂

[@wanking3432]

@@anon-842 If you think full ROM is bad advice, it means you don't understand the research. The research still says full ROM is great, but lengthened partials, depending on the muscle, is better. Not every muscle even benefits from lengthened partials. So, no, 99% of fitness channels haven't been destroyed.

[@MrHydevsDrJekyll]

Time under tension grows the muscle.

[@4zri_gaming]

Time under tension is an undervalued parameters for common bodybuilders and powerlifter. Knowing explosive force comes from fast twitch fibers (type 2), endurance comes from slow twitch fibers that will react better to bigger volume but fewer weight. Train your type 1 fibers lads !

[@shellytanner]

Undervalued by who? It's been used since bodybuilding began.

[@4zri_gaming]

@@shellytanner Read full first sentence « Common bodybuilders ». Next time you go to the gym, count how many intermediate are baby reping, not utilising full ROM or just dropping everything in the eccentric. Then you’ll have your « who », and also count a lot of lads who clicked on the video. 🤯🤯🤯

[@snow49032]

Between this and the unlimited post workout protein intake it seems more and more that the gym bros were right all along.

[@monkeyman123321]

I always mix reps like crazy. In a single set i'll do ful rep, half rep, I'll hold a rep halfway then slowly finish it if it's body weight I'll move side to side and do uneven reps.

[@Casual_ND]

I think that taking all reps in any exercise to failure is the most natural way to promote growth, since you're constantly pushing the muscles to their limit. Working with the same sets/reps/weight for like a month at a time as most gym instructors instruct ppl to do seems off, since your muscles get used to the burden pretty quickly, perhaps it's a way for gyms to keep members paying for longer periods of time?