Build Your First Hickory Self Bow

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[@daveanddanniejacobs9432]

Shot bow all my life I'm 53 going on 54 damn cool to see that there is actually young men still out there keeping it real.

[@adamtomlinson918]

"im not very good at archery" proceeds to hit every spot he wants. Yea, okay. Always love your videos Kramer!

[@DanSantanaBows]

The bow gods are smiling! This video will greatly lower the barrier to entry and allow so many new bowyers to enjoy this craft I hope it’s alright if I offer some further thoughts and minor disagreements for the sake of discussion. We all do things differently The problem with tillering gizmos is that they mark out an even circle. For the vast majority of bows this leads to too much inner limb bending and stiff mid and outer limbs. Thinner wood can bend to a tighter radius than thicker wood before it reaches the elastic limit (takes set.) This means that the outer limbs of the bow can bend to a tighter radius than the inner limbs. If you bend them to the same radius you’re overworking the inner limbs and underworking everything else. If you had no thickness taper then it would make sense to have circular tiller but otherwise pretty much any straight stave design will call for a more elliptical bend shape. I do also recommend the gizmo because the wrong tiller shape is better than no tiller at all, or a broken bow. But if you use it I suggest manually working the mids and outers more than the gizmo suggests Another part I’d suggest doing differently is the handle, and fades as well. Typically modern bowyers leave the handle blocky and then carve the handle once the bow is tillered. Bowyers who specialize in self bows tend to rough out the entire bow, including the handle and fades. The width and thickness fades are established at the time of the rough out, and then they are incrementally tillered together with the bow. The big advantage this way is you’ll never have the handle jump scare you by bending when you don’t expect it-because you adjust it carefully and incrementally together with the limbs. More importantly, if the handle and fades are already established once the bow is tillered, it means you don’t have to do risky carving near the fades. Typically on bows with fades the fading from handle to limbs is done in both width and thickness over the same distance. In this bow the width fades and thickness fades are distinct, which takes up more space than necessary. This is definitely an overly pedantic nitpick, all I mean is that one could save a couple inches of bending limb by making the fades the traditional way. For good examples of fade design study west coast paddle bows for bending handles. For stiff handles search for buchanan dips. Swiftwood Bows and Clay Hayes also have many videos showing the handle features I mention here. Most side on pictures of fades show the side profile but keep in mind that the fades have both a thickness and a width component, and that they should be complimentary. Ie the limbs are wide and thin but the handle is thick and narrow. Or when you narrow the handle you need to thicken the fades. If you separate the width fades from the thickness fades you’re creating weak points anywhere you narrow the handle but don’t increase the thickness. I worry that the handle bending in the video may come from these abrupt transitions. I hope these points are taken constructively. If I have been picky it’s because this video has great potential to advance the craft. Now may the algorithm gods do their work!

[@AaronBleess-yz4cw]

Not only do I watch your videos but I truly enjoy your videos. Every time I’m on KZbin I look to see if you have a new video. Thank you for your wonderful content.

[@user-rc4tb5bq1u]

I did it, with the help of shatter proof archery videos and Kazdens expertise I made an oak bow!!!!!

[@philipdavis5638]

Idea for will it bow. Building a takedown bow from two axe handles. I think they are usually hickory.

[@dee-n1cearchery805]

Could you do one in reflex deflex and bamboo backing ? And how short of a bow can you go? And even a two piece bow ? Thanks

[@AesthMed]

I have some Osage orange staves with pretty significant bends in them, but the grain and rings are perfect. I’ve only ever tried board bows so this is a new challenge for me. Maybe in a future video you could show us how to go about correcting a bend? It bends forward/backward. Not side-to-side.

[@frankbarbagallo9399]

Great job! Love hickory and Osage. Something awesome about building a bow and seeing it shoot well ! Thanks for all the great videos! I am 71 years old and made my first bow when I was 12 years old out of a hickory sapling and killed my first rabbit the same day! I have been shooting bows ever since. I did not build another bow again until 1999 and really dove into the self bows and started making indian arrows and knapping flint arrow heads. So satisfying and even took a few deer with them ! Great to see your enthusiasm you have! Keep it up 👍 thanks again

[@cliffpurcell6363]

You’ve inspired me- I’m going to build one!

[@glenn_r_frank_author]

I've made a sucessful board bow out of Maple... really want to try hickory too! Inspiration!

[@baptisteb7144]

Amazing Work ! Watching you from France is a real pleasure and inspires me to start bow making ;)

[@mickusable]

Awesome build Kramer, keep the videos shatterproof 🏹

[@troyfrazier2538]

Very gifted. I love watching your videos. Maybe one day I will make a bow. Very good information. Thank you.

[@fulcrum789]

I just got the 3 staves I ordered in the mail my kids and I will build them one for each kid so they can have memories.

[@paullewis5045]

Really, really nice build demo! One caution though. When shooting off your bare hand take care to check your fletching for damage. A feather splinter is no fun at all. Check some videos of Japanese archery where form is more important than where the arrow strikes. The arrows are shot off the hand from self-bows. But the leading edge of the fletching is scythed and served. No one should have the wonderful experience of having a 4-inch fletching driven two inches into your finger.

[@kirisilvermane]

Always an inspiration! Now looking for hickory in the uk!

[@antkadelbach]

Amazing. The tutorial I whish I had in my childhood, the hours of carving I wasted, when I shattered my bows by drawing them out without any tillering...

[@SWINGERINTO]

Never stop! Love you helping people! Love you finding a way to grow a business at the same time, even more! Keep it up!

[@shrewsbrewery183]

Hey I've been watching your videos for a while now, love you enthusiasm, it's a bit infectious :) I really want to get into bow making and you have inspired me!

[@shawndooley7778]

I've never built a bow but it's been an idea for a project, seeing you build one from scratch with these few tools gives me a boost of confidence and plenty of information going forward. Please keep making great vids like these they are inspiring.

[@mschultz88]

I just got me a hickory stave the other day, and now you make this video!! Ready to start shaving off material for my first bow. Thanks for the information!!

[@viewtifuljay2531]

Been studying varoius sources for a year or so now when it comes to bow making. Keep in mind ive never made a bow myself. With that being said this video was the best in terms of allowing beginners to understand the process and steps behind making a bow. You kept it simple, but showed some more advanced techniques to strive for in the future. I think il finnally give it a try

[@Gimli_syn_Gloinuv]

Awesome, thank you for the video :-) not really a bow shooter, but i like to shoot from time to time, and bow was actually a second thing i bought for the first money i ever made :-) and still have it, almost 20 years old now ... Recently i got into historical fencing and stuff and with some money i manage to put aside i'm now trying to learn new skills, bowmaking is next up, so your video is here in the right time for me and with a lot of good and valuable informations :-)

[@edjohnston3227]

Once again, you "nock" it out of the park with an awesome video! Thank you for all the information you post man!

[@cj.972]

Wow u have came so far in ur journey I remember watching you over a year ago maybe even 2 When u first started showing people how to make bows I've learned so much from you And I've even tried making my own only twice I need more Practice or I may just buy one of ur templates to start Keep it up buddy

[@gavvo4125]

I'm only waneted to say thank you for inspiring me to make bows I only 16 years old and i remember that I used to do bows out of any branch that I found on the ground and now seeing your videos I have decided to go back to those day and try to do a bow in conditions it have been like 4 months that I found this channel and 95% of the things I know about making bows right now have been thanks to you, by the way I think that the products on shatterproof are awesome.

[@MrGaza74]

Best beginner video on KZbin. 👍🏼

[@shadowcastre]

Awesome video...! Going over 50# with hickory un-backed is no problem. I have one that is 70#. Thanks for the video...

[@AesthMed]

Wow, very thorough. I love the quick and easy tillering tree. I’ve been building without one but I can easily make this in my apartment. Thanks!

[@noahsmith8988]

I have some great hickory trees on my little plot of land all sizes if I was younger iwould be making me another bow I have made some many years back with nothing but a hatchet and knife and sand paper they were pretty good bows

[@jdryak]

Excellent videos and you have such a great and generous attitude. Thanks so much!

[@robertlee8400]

If I (& that’s a big If) was to make a bow , it would be out of osage orange wood or Brazilian walnut wood or Australian buloke wood .

[@richj5735]

Great video. Love learning this stuff!

[@Curie_ELiTE]

You are so talented. Its a pleasure watching your videos and craft. Thx from Denmark.

[@KD8HDY]

Love this video! Thank you a much for sharing this information with us.

[@gnothisauton2116]

Great stuff. Keep up the wonderful tutorials.

[@kyleconnery1929]

i have watched you videos for a thew years and now with this it feels like i can build one myself now 👍

[@rtcoleman3626]

You're awesome dude I love watching your videos they have taught me a lot

[@reapergrim76]

Love this! 😀

[@ralfbear]

I wish it was as easy here to get decent timber as it is your side of the pond... Sigh... Thanks for your videos, really enjoy them. 👍🏻

[@cecilsowers8242]

I always love to watch your bow building videos. I need to try it again especially with hickory. I tried it with red oak and cut too much, hinged it and it broke. I never tried again but I’m thinking I would like to do it because I would love to have some thing that I built for myself. Keep up the good work buddy.

[@NoahSpurrier]

Good stuff. I’m getting inspired.

[@henryng7893]

Great video👍👍👍

[@dust154]

fantastic video thank you:)

[@christophertracey7201]

Awesome vid

[@aaronbowers3660]

Great video, I like the simplicity of this build for the beginner and the graphics you added. What's your opinion of pvc bows?

[@garykruta145]

May have to get one of those staves from you

[@dylanlawrence5261]

You should build one of those native american shortbows, basically this but much shorter. Curious how much harder it would be to do.

[@charlesdavis9937]

I made a hickory English longbow. 72" 44#@28"

[@larryb9771]

Love your content. I have a few pieces of shagbark hickory staves can I use these dimensions and process to make a bow from it?

[@lordscan1047]

Great video, you really make me think on make me one for myself, but i would like to know, What are your toughts on pvc bows?

[@TheYellowChev]

Approximately how many hours of work do you think this takes. I'm trying to find a fun project for my woodworking class in school. I'd love to know if I'd have time to make this.

[@juanpablofajardoramirez1008]

"I am not too good", proceeds to deadeye the first target he calls hahahah great video man, always loved your content, and i have a feeling I will always love it

[@keithramsay5987]

So eucalyptus would be a good choice being in Australia?

[@caseysmith544]

If Me I would have glued only on both sides a mini piece of wood pre shaped as a bow rest and I would have used a thin layer of clear epoxy over the bow for a protectant on my bow as well as a backing.

[@gaza102289]

Do you think you could make a bow with just a Swiss army knife? (Or equivalent)

[@brycemurphy1320]

What do these staves start out as? I’ve been watching your videos of lumber store board bows along with many other peoples videos on them. Is that what these staves start as or are these cut from real lumber and chased rings, that sort? This is awesome you can but these staves though, I might take this rout for my first bow build!

[@user-em7lp1sb4k]

Is the Hickory kiln dried or does it need to be green?

[@mandolinman2006]

One of these days, I want to get my first bow.

[@TylerOwings-fn5rl]

Would dogwood work?

[@allencross3599]

Why don't you give your hand at an asymmetric bow like the Yumi? (or the shorter Hankyu) Why did it work well for them?

[@That_dirty_hobo]

If i want hickory staves that aren't shaped yet, where do i get them?

[@user-pb8id3cg4d]

Have you ever tried to make a fire hardened bow before?

[@goranvulic4791]

thank you very much, I don't know much English, so I would really like you to put a Croatian, Bosnian and Serbian translation because I don't have it on my cell phone when I watch KZbin

[@PNWWoodcraft]

Hey, Kramer I just wanted to let you know that you inspired me to learn how to make bows. I've improved my skills a lot and I just created my own channel documenting my journey. Is it possible for you to pin this comment? Thanks.

[@tdog_]

im a righty, but left eye dominant so aiming with my right eye is annoying.

[@burstfireno1617]

Kramer, that stitching needs a serious upgrade 😅

[@schoolhaters1992]

In the past month I've been trying to make a bow and the 3 that I have built all broke in roughly the same spot(near the handle). I have used different wood and tried multiple designs. If anyone could help that would be nice.

[@facelift117]

Making it look easy. 😅

[@trollforge]

Kramer, why do you want 1/4" positive tiller in you bow?

[@DanSantanaBows]

Even when you make a bow perfectly symmetrical, you can’t actually use it symmetrically. You can’t both hold the bow in the center and shoot from the center, so you have to cut a compromise. Since we shoot above our hands this puts more mechanical advantage on the lower limb. So to compensate, we leave the lower limb slightly stiffer, leading to positive tiller.

[@trollforge]

@@DanSantanaBows Beautifully explained, Thank you!

[@richardwhite8514]

Has anybody ever use formica on a bow back

[@shawnwaters2154]

I'd rather buy one lol ... I don't have the time with the hours I work and my kids

[@sonicdail]

Day 1 of asking to make Cernos from warframe

[@rancaciovul0078]

Hello! Can you gift me a bow, i just like simple bows