Building a 009 NGG16 Beyer Garratt...For Christmas! Part 1

[@tacfoley4443]

Garsp!!!! What a beauty!!!! I'm deeply envious! I'm very happy to see that you're a customer of our Tom and his marvellous decals. To my mind there is nobody else when it comes to NG signage.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I’m waiting for some more bits from Tom for a couple other projects for the Nant Gwernol build aswell

[@Proper_Chuffed]

Marvelous work George, this is inspirational, coming from a South African, it's awesome to see this model come to life, you've convinced me to take the plunge!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Give it a go, it’s not as intimidating as it looks

[@ocalicreek]

"I can't be bothered". Yup. Sums it up for me as well. Just not feeling that holiday spirit. But I've got a loco on my bench and it's raining outside here too. Cheers for the inspiration.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

That’s good enough for me!

[@varus5596]

Hi George, for me you easily have the most interesting 009/HOe site. This is such an interesting model. The chassis assembled in really well. From an overseas perspective, 3D printing is the only way to go. The UK prototypes in RTR are terribly limited compared to the huge array of narrow gauge steam used world wide. Even European HOe bottoms out fairly quickly, but you can find a chassis for anything … Will the day come when you start cutting out every second spoke in an N Gauge donor chassis?

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Cheers, I’m glad you enjoy the videos. But yes I agree about the market, though it’s still developing so more will come out over time

[@digitalgridmusic1768]

What a cool little engine! Honestly, the live commentary is a refreshing change, it’s nice to hear more of your personality and live reactions going into things. Great work George

[@GWilliamsonModels]

That’s good to know, it makes producing the content a whole lot easier, so I might keep with this style

[@robglysen]

If I can get hold of the 008s on the cheap I'll consider this, looks very very good.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I bought the parts for this build over a few months to make it less painful on the bank. The 08’s were about £100 each I think? But they were brand new, I know someone who paid about £60 for second hand

[@T3DSK1]

Now G that is vaiiiry interesting there once was one of these at the Brecon Mountain Railway but it was moved a number years ago I `m not sure if it was the exact same model but it was from South Africa so will watch spellbound as the model progresses. As for Rupert your beautiful kitten he will calm down one thing about cats its natures way of saying not everything has to have a purpose , hmmm bit like rivet counters anyway crack on and thanks 👍🙏

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I’ve not been to the Brecon mountain, need to do that next year I think!

[@T3DSK1]

@@GWilliamsonModels It`s a nice set up I`ve not been there for a while. must go again as it is quite close.

[@ComengProductions]

Not to be confused with Puffing Billy’s NGG129! Great job mate

[@T199Productions]

Australia moment

[@ComengProductions]

@@T199Productions Yeah

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Absolutely, and a railway I’d love to visit

[@ComengProductions]

@@GWilliamsonModels It's definitely a good one

[@Thisismyhandle90]

You’ve got me looking at the printed kits for HOn30 Puffing Billy models designed for that 08 chassis.

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

I really like that what you do fits so well with these types of engines. I was so close to making a narrow gauge but I don’t feel like I know enough about the kind I’d want to remodel, living in the usa. I didn’t want to do an old west railway either. The makers of those locos aren’t really doing anything right now, and I’m not sure they have people 3d printing great kits like these. Plus, it’s probably better i do something I’m more familiar with. Ready to run locos and all. Thanks for sharing this video!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Cheers. I won’t always model local UK lines, at some point I want to do the Darjeeling, and possibly an old West Virginian diorama

[@SharkytheGunzel]

Looking forward to the rest of this build! Also looking forward to drunk George!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Me too, bring it on!

[@MaxwellTheTrainFan]

Woah This is massive ! Y know I may just get one of these to have for myself in the future . that and a PeterSam maybe .

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Give it a go, they’re not a tough build!

[@MaxwellTheTrainFan]

@@GWilliamsonModels I probably will Tho not for 009 usage . Maybe to fit with my N scale models . There isn’t that much of a difference for size . Besides . I ain’t fussed with scale . Just a N scale driver and fireman in the cab Some paint . Probably black and red bufferbeams the finding of 2 class 08 shunters That’s it ! Not too hard I recon . But my main setback will be I recon the chassis . I have only ever wanted to grab 1 80 shunter for well it’s intended usage as a 08 for N scale . But I may need to get 3 now … I mean Christmas is coming up … maybe I could get one then . I know rails of Sheffield has plenty in all sorts of livery’s I also see them LOADS in real life Two at the seven valley line both BR green One at york that dose shunting . In a red livery I think EWS One at the place where I voilenter . George stepnensons in BR blue One at the North Yorkshire moors in BR blue In short … Everywhere … and yet I have never had one EVER as a model Not in 00 scale as I know hornby made them loads of times … but I never had one And now in N scale . Grahamfarish has made plenty and they all look really nice … but I have never got one yet … but to grab two for a garret . It seems like really fun … but I don’t know if I have the cash Personally if I am to get any they would be in these livery’s BR blue BR green EWS red But … that’s later Maxwell to enjoy . For now I am content . tho having to buy 5 of the class 08 . 3 to keep as what they are and 2 to be killed for the garret . Maybe for 17 year old me perhaps … but for now I am fine

[@MaxwellTheTrainFan]

Sorry for the long comment .

[@davewilliams6172]

I want one! gimee gimee gimee. This is a great project for Christmas, thank you for the inspiration and for putting the links in 👍 Now, if only I had a layout to run it on lol

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I haven’t got a layout for this one either! It’s a great kit though

[@Jhc421]

Absolutely brilliant, I'm definitely going to add one of these to my upcoming OO9 layout, Gwynt Cul! Looking forward to seeing how you finish yours out.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

They are huge, but actually they can negotiate pretty tight curves

[@IanHenderson-g9i]

I am contemplating getting one of the so be following your builds with interest. The live audio was absolutely fine. Hopefully you survived the storm OK - rellies who live on the Llyn peninsula lost power for nearly a week. All electric living and an electric car aren't perhaps such the good idea the Government thinks they are but at least you're saving the plant if you freeze to death with no heating and can't get anywhere.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I was a bit worried that it would be too much work, but actually so far, it’s been really simple to get on with

[@classic_britain]

Very very cool I love the NGG 16 big fan of them and the blackwoods kit's are crazy money!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Absolutely, give this a try, it’s still not cheap once you’ve got the chassis etc, but a whole lot cheaper than the backwards at least

[@classic_britain]

@@GWilliamsonModels Yeah that's true I would want the full valve gear so will be even more money but worth it in my mind!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

@ it would be, but I wouldn’t have the skill to make it run!

[@Micycle121]

Looking great, looking forward to seeing progress - Michael Tucker

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Cheers mate

[@modelrailfan37]

This looks great s9 far, can’t wait to see more! I really like the welsh highland garrets and somehow I never knew about this kit! Also laughed at 17:43 because me and two of my friends play the trumpet, one of my friends plays the trombone, and two of my friends play the saxophone 😭

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I hope you play it outdoors ;)

[@modelrailfan37]

@ occasionally I do 😂 sometimes indoors though…

[@chrisodell32]

Great stuff George. You have given me the kick up the backside I needed to get my Michael Tucker kit out of the drawer and give it a go. I'll be following with interest.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

It’s a big hit, but worth it in the end

[@RG-Models86]

It's looking good, George 👍. Looking forward to the rest of the build. I wonder if we'll see a ready to run Garratt anytime soon from the manufacturers 🤔.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

@@RG-Models86 that’s the word on the street, but it won’t be cheap if it happens!

[@upwellonwards7373]

stunning work George love your work as always and i find it a little ironic in a way as i not long completed my ngg16 garratt they are quite a kit and now i wanna build a second lol

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Yes they’re a great kit, and a popular engine!

[@upwellonwards7373]

@GWilliamsonModels i aim to do my second with more ideal valvegear

[@paulrounding5260]

Can’t wait to see it finished, could you put it next to a double fairlie to compare the sizes.

[@TheHoveHeretic]

Hollow an NGG16 out and you could put a Double Fairlie *inside* it to compare sizes!!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I actually don’t have a double fairlie, maybe one day!

[@JamesHiltonCustomModelRailways]

Great job George... look forward to seeing how you get on!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Cheers mate, I’ll try and catch you up

[@JulianSaunders]

Great video George. Early Happy Christmas hic!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Cheers, it is much more time effective filming this way!

[@pandacidalmaniac2439]

I love the WHR Garratts, looking forward to watching this get built and painted

[@Hutch-916]

It’s not a WHR Garratt considering they not only have the SAR NGG16s but a Beyer peacock K class, making an NGG16 not a WHR Garratt

[@pandacidalmaniac2439]

​@@Hutch-916why did you comment this? Does it matter? Who cares?

[@GWilliamsonModels]

They’re always a popular one

[@Micycle121]

​​@@Hutch-916 it's modelled on 130, it was effectively built there, it's WHR - Michael (The kit producer)

[@Hutch-916]

@@Micycle121 oh were they built there? Damn thought they were SAR built and shipped over, oop

[@XDHwilks]

Woah very nice! I'd get one as well if they were produced in HOn3.5 to suit the TT gauge 08s... otherwise i'd be starting up a 3rd gauge on my railway haha

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Cheers. Why not message him and ask to blow it up to your scale?

[@JimmyProductions]

Nice job!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Cheers mate

[@Jaherick]

Great video George, you can get rolling roads from DCCconcepts which are great for testing and running in. I got a kit that does multiple gauges.

[@clockwork3494]

Such a cool engine, there's a couple in Australia too, No.127 and No.129 in Victoria on the Puffing Billy railway, 127 came with a load of spare parts which helped return 129 to steam, although 127 is on display currently it sounds like it might be possible to have both operational with both the parts and it's overall condition 129's return to service is fairly recent too, only being in 2019 after 23 years of work

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Yes, and I’d love to visit the puffing billy one day. Definitely one for the bucket list

[@RRspartan24]

I would love to have a Garrett someday on my narrow gauge layout… I’m hope someday some1 or peco or bachmann uk, could make one of the 0-4-0-0-4-0 Garrett’s.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Maybe one day

[@sodor_dan-da-man]

Fantastic video as always..may I ask as to what you will do with all the bits you stripped off the 08s? If you looking to get rid of them would be interested for a N scale project

[@GWilliamsonModels]

You’re welcome to them, but the detailing parts aren’t in the best shape now!

[@sodor_dan-da-man]

@GWilliamsonModels thanks would definitely like them please..the details not important for what I'm looking to do

[@sodor_dan-da-man]

@GWilliamsonModels my email on my about me page if that helps talk about further

[@jeremychristie9946]

I noticed when you bent the crosshead you bent it with the half etch line to the outside, etches are normally bent with the half etch line to the inside. (Unless the instructions specifically state otherwise)

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Nah that’s just me getting it wrong!

[@Steamshield]

Never thought id see a ng16 garret as a kit. Would be nice to have a ng15 too. Reworking on talyllan sint fourdees brought out the conversion kit.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Yes I’ve got the talyllyn kit to do soon

[@Steamshield]

What's going to happen to westcliff works one then

[@BillyGraves-s4h]

Icl this guys making me want to make an 009 layout

[@GWilliamsonModels]

This one will look good in a little diorama, which u may make to put on the wall

[@BillyGraves-s4h]

Mhm

[@davegillman6296]

Just a tad fiddly no family shame putting that lot together,looking forward to see the finished loco.

[@GWilliamsonModels]

It is, but not as fiddly as some others, considering the size of it

[@MaxwellTheTrainFan]

Honestly it reminds me of a double farlie I mean think on it . Huge steam engine with articulated powered bogies … seems similar ?

[@MaxwellTheTrainFan]

And yet the double fsrlie is already a pre made model to get from a shop or online instantly . Whilst this I have to make it myself . But honestly I prefer this for being a huge model and being all so cool to me . But hey Ho . They both cost money … and I don’t got none of that 😂

[@GWilliamsonModels]

@@MaxwellTheTrainFan give this one a go, it’s a great model for the price, and doesn’t require much skill

[@MaxwellTheTrainFan]

@@GWilliamsonModels I am good at painting .. But the chassis making … the valvegear … PAH I am gunna be able to do it … until the chassis . And I ain’t a fan of needle sized crank pins nor the whole making valvegear part Personally the cylenders will be just for show I recon . And all the extra valvegear will probably not be done . Or I may get some other person to do it . Maybe my local model shop could … they have a loop of different scales of track . I remember taking my class 66 in N scale … and it looked funny next to a double farlie in 009 . But anyways I recon they could do the valvegear … but for now I recon that’s not my main issue However my concern is how do the tank and tender couple to the centre body of the boiler ? By gravity or some form of screw to hold it all . I ain’t a fan of gravity to hold my models together . And I can’t glue them since they gotta swivel , that’s my only issue with it .

[@neilkelly3849]

Bagpipes at Tesco?

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I actually like bagpipes..from a distance

[@scalerailmodelling2846]

Should have done it in photographic grey…then it’s nearly finished 😊

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Good point!

[@epicmoon8874]

Impressive now really want to build one too but this is too expensive to be runied by my non existing paiting skills and i probably would need to order multiple sets of valve gear cuz i would screw it up a lot, would be fun to see it running on the corris layout

[@GWilliamsonModels]

It wouldn’t sit down on Corrish!

[@johncunningham6928]

This looks good, if a 'little'(!) for my own layout. Just one question: What is the music olaying in the background?

[@GWilliamsonModels]

No idea sorry, just something I chose that fit the video!

[@T0blerone1a]

Hi George, tried to order the kit but it is sold out, according to website. Any idea if it will be available again?

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I spoke to Michael, he said that he’s got a pile of orders to work through as a result of the video, so keep checking back, I couldn’t say how long it’ll be

[@T0blerone1a]

@@GWilliamsonModels Thanks for checking, also some of the etched parts from \R|T models are out of stock, so probably the same goes for them. Cheers🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

[@Micycle121]

I do apologise, I forgot to update the stock number 😂 it should read as available now

[@Jude-72]

This is fab, but makes me want to build one wich I dont need to do. Have you seen the fourdees talyllyn kit?

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Yes I’ve got one sitting here

[@Farmer5567]

I thought you were going to use 2 n scale gordons!

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Not this time

[@MicroModelRailwayDispatch]

That looks like it will be quite the model when finished. Do we sense a small WHR”ish” layout in the future perchance? I was looking at the area around the cab front and the top of the boiler and I was confused as to what was actual pipework and what was casting artifacts. I hope you’re not

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I haven’t actually planned a layout for this one. Not sure if I will, so will see what happens!

[@deletedfromsociety]

i do love the garratts. i can’t say i hate them now i’m volunteering on the WHR. rumour has it bachmann have plans to make one (from the new reputable news source that is facebook). but do hope they do because my modelling skills are far from yours haha

[@GWilliamsonModels]

Yes I’ve heard that they might be on it, but it won’t be cheap if it happens

[@Micycle121]

​@@GWilliamsonModelsI heard it's a very long way off if it happens at all, from a reputable source

[@Londontransitduck]

I am really jealous now how do you afford all this in today's money

[@GWilliamsonModels]

I’ve been buying the parts over a few months, not that bad if you do it that way

[@Londontransitduck]

@@GWilliamsonModels true but being autistic and possibly have ADHD. make me to impatient to do that but oun day I will the engine I really need to save up for is a rhenaus to make SMUDGER FROME Ttte

[@GWilliamsonModels]

@ just to support that, I’m autistic with ADHD. Don’t let that get in the way of what you want to do

[@Londontransitduck]

@@GWilliamsonModels thank you the is im my opinion the second most inspirational set of wordsiv herd.and i try my best not to let. It but it's hard 009 is also a new oun for me I only have 1 loco plus oun choach they were quite cheap actually