Building a Big Realistic City in Cities Skylines 2 through Expert Zoning!

[@Infrastructurist]

If you have any QUESTIONS about Cities Skylines 2 - COMMENT below and I will do my best to answer. And I would appreciate a LIKE FIRST EPISODE available here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGnVfGyfe5asr9Usi=3GuKvkswLRe5U5Ik Much love, Infrastructurist

[@Lenniitsch]

Thanks for this amazing video, really enjoyed the first episode and I'm eager to now finishing the second. So here's my question: is there any hope that they will remove the random farm buildings spawning in farm land? Or asked differently, do they ask content creators for feedback like that at allot is it more a marketing thing (which would be understandable as well). Hope not scratching any NDA with this. Thx & Best from Germany

[@Infrastructurist]

Hi @@Lenniitsch! I am not aware of any upcoming changes to the random farm buildings - but they do listen to our feedback and actively encourage it. But tbh I am not sure if anyone has pointed that out as an issue. I myself haven't had that as a concern at least ☺

[@TombstoneUK]

Excellent video and also want to say how superb your cities are, I've recently discovered the channel and have subscribed because I love how realistic your city builds are. Which brings me to my question nicely, for someone new to Cities, do you think its better now to wait for Cities 2 as some things are easier to do in CS2, or do you think that CS1 is still , currently, the better product because of the wealth of mods and assets available. I imagine many of those will be available for CS2 in time but is CS2 currently very limited in comparison with CS1?

[@masterrguy4465]

How is the performance compared to CS1 so far? From the recording the frames seem to be really low.

[@Goofy_Music]

How are the tiny details so far, like when a road is bad quality do you see it? also loved the video :)

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

Riverview is looking pristine mate!! You are nailing CS2 so far, very inspiring!

[@Infrastructurist]

Thank you very much mate, I appreciate it! Really enjoyed New Frenwood as well - especially the Q&A session and more time spent explaining mechanics ☺

[@Jason-jb1vs]

CS2 or CS2

[@Samgratt]

@@Jason-jb1vsthink bro

[@harrycolon5301]

Mates. Gay

[@Michael_Chambers_Officials]

​@@harrycolon5301How about you be quiet there buddy boi

[@HK6]

"Created a big, low-density single-family neighborhood up here called Northside. 205 single-family houses and extremely car dependent. We've got no public transport out here, there's not even sidewalks on many of the streets. So yeah, 'Murica baby." Wow, this may just be the most realistic recreation of a North American city ever.

[@gorlack2231]

Who needs sidewalks when you can just walk down the road?

[@ACE_IS_BASED123]

Luckily my neighborhood in the USA was made before the 80s so I actually have sidewalks

[@bulletboy159]

You have the perfect game recommended specs. Is it possible to tell us how many frames you got? Got a bad laggy unoptimized feeling😢

[@ckelley87]

Building highways and demolishing neighborhoods, the American way! 😂 Great video series introducing CS2, your town looks great - can't wait for more!

[@Infrastructurist]

Hahahaha, sure feels good to displace all these annoying folks and put some FRESH PAVEMENT down brother! Thanks a lot! ☺

[@squidwardo7074]

as long as its going through the poor neighborhood

[@Pickleduck.]

@@squidwardo7074 or ethnic minority

[@aidenbilling5519]

@@Pickleduck."the american dream"

[@spacebound1969]

Haha! America bad. You guys are funny! I agree totally! My opinion is extremely original

[@Ya-Ya-Ya-I-Am-Lorde]

This video is the one that finally convinced me that yes, the game looks very, very good. Even the official stream from CO had me feel like it was all grey and boring but after seeing this, I feel so much better.

[@Infrastructurist]

Hi! Glad you enjoyed it!! ☺

[@blackelement_music]

I think the ambient color really depends on the map and season

[@jpennin1]

Unfortunately, I'm still not convinced. The more I see of CS2, the more I feel it's still going to need some good modding before it will look good. Right now, everything looks so generic and similar that everyone's cities look identical and boring. It's forcing me to hold off on expecting to buy it at release.

[@CharlieGeneralS]

@@jpennin1 I've watched about 6 different 2 episode series from YT's, not one has looked the same, it has similar aspects as in he main buildings such as town hall etc but the designs and ideas are practically and individual thought process... This is still basically in early access and the devs have allowed these youtubers to play, upload this content so they can gather more ideas, hence they didnt have contour lines- now they do. they are listening and reading comments. why don't you buy it at the start and try it on your own behalf, not viewing others content and if you dont like it- refund it and wait for the modders to do stuff....

[@captainbroady]

@@jpennin1 I mean yea the textures need more fine tuning but that's a pretty minor issue. Maybe mods with more texture packs would help but the base game is already much better than what's currently in the market. Also, nobody's saying CS2 is better at every aspect than CS1 :D

[@robertoacciolymelo]

Beta and you’re already taking so much out of it, incredible! This last cinematics turned out amazing. Few are pulling up the quality you have in this early stage, imagine what’s in store after you work with some mods. Keep it up man

[@Infrastructurist]

Thank you so much for the kind comment Roberto - and thanks for being a subscriber for more than 3 years! ☺

[@florianvandillen]

What I like is how very little mods you will need because so many good modding features of CSL1 have been incorporated in the CSL2 base game.

[@amaar3587]

What was your average fps in beta, the game looked jittery

[@Infrastructurist]

Honestly - no idea. But it is a beta build with some bugs here and there, even some pretty big ones, so I won't judge performance before I have the final product available ☺

[@gregg5958]

I am getting worried about this game. So close to release and the traffic STILL looks sparse. I am beginning to think the game engine cannot handle more. I don’t like that every city I see no matter how big has so few cars. The streets look dead. If this is how it’s going to be, I’m going to stick to CS1 as big buildings with so few cars milling about just doesn’t look realistic at all.

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

The atrocious look of those distant mountains - more like dirt piles - is depressing. They took a game that they only needed to add things to, and hyped a sequel that looks worse, is missing tools, and has little to no mod support at launch. Typical illustration of where game development is today.

[@zaphod4245]

I really dislike the passenger train station building in this game, it's got way too much space wasted with car parks (as do many of the assets in CS2, like isn't that the point of having car parks being separate buildings, that the assets don't have them), looks so out of place as a city centre station.

[@Szini]

You're the type of guy who makes me question whether I have any sense of creativity at all. Your city is a giant castle compared to my dirt block house and I both hate and admire you for it.

[@Infrastructurist]

Thank you for the compliment Szini - I will carry both your admiration and a bit of hate 😊😁

[@scrappycoco3687]

Why does this „North American“ town look so European? I‘d expect all those buildings, especially the mid and high rises in Central/Northern Europe from how they look…

[@ayaneagano6059]

It’s probably because the style of development is closer to European zoning style (non-Euclidean) rather than the American style (single-use zoning [Euclidean zoning], excessive parking, overly massive streets, highway-oriented development rather than rails, etc.)-but the actual buildings do look pretty North American, albeit a bit Canadian

[@ayaneagano6059]

OH, but in regards to some of the buildings, he actually mixed in some of the European building style with the American style, so that’s why some buildings look so European

[@Infrastructurist]

Hi Scrappy! I try to mix in a bit of euro stuff when the assets seem juuuuust generic enough for me. I prefer having a few slightly-euro looking buildings over too much repetition ☺

[@scrappycoco3687]

@@Infrastructurist Thank you for your answer. Ok, that‘s why it looks a little bit European-ish. I hope the base game has some different American suburban houses to make the look varied.

[@Infrastructurist]

​@@scrappycoco3687 No problem! Generally I find the mix of assets for a specific zoning type alright, but the addition of the new types just allow for much more flexibility. The key for me is to apply some zoning tricks for the more important part of the city, ie. the downtown. I go into that in greater detail in the video ☺

[@Operative34]

Anyone else find that the motion blur on the camera makes it unwatchable? I really don't like that when you zoom and pan around.

[@Devan-k2e]

It might be good for the GPU but idk. And maybe makes it smoother.

[@trevorcurrie4774]

​@@Devan-k2emotion blur wont increase performance. In fact since it's a kind of post processing, it can decrease performance. But not usually by much.

[@micbln8967]

Why the parks have a different grass texture? And no option to connect paths to it? Parks are really a big step backwards :(

[@Infrastructurist]

HI! I like the design of the parks but I do think it is unfortunate that for now at least, we cannot connect them to paths ☺

[@micbln8967]

@@Infrastructurist Besides that, I like your play style of zoning new low density areas in the suburbs and rezone higher density in center, feels very natural growing this way.

[@jeffryjirraf]

It was interesting that Madison Creek area was obliterated for the railway station, reflects what happened in a lot of towns in the 1800’s, in Glasgow there was a wee village called Grahamston which went the way of Madison Creek for Glasgow Central Station!

[@terranceramirez4816]

We called that urban renewal here in the States. In my former hometown of the Twin Cities, the Rondo neighborhood, one of the most vibrant African-American neighborhoods in St. Paul was demolished entirely to make room for an interstate highway 🛣

[@Vlamyncksken]

​@@terranceramirez4816no more gunshots at night :)

[@McHox]

performance looks rough

[@robinbanks6433]

Anyone else a little concerned that there really isn't much management of city finances in the game? The game seems to be throwing huge sums of money at you for doing basic things. Like it doesn't seem like you could ever go bankrupt. Were only on the 8th milestone in this lets play and already sitting on 9 million dollars.

[@dnfriedman]

Will be interesting to see if he has any comments about FPS & large cities.

[@Infrastructurist]

Hi! I don't make any comments on performance/FPS during the video. It it still very much a beta build us creators have access to, even with obvious bugs (such as nighttime looking completely out of whack), so personally, I will judge performance when I have the final thing in my hands ☺ If you have doubts on how it will perform on your machine, I suggest waiting for some reviews to roll-in on the final game before you decide on anything 😀

[@dnfriedman]

@@Infrastructurist Makes sense! Looking forward to your video in any event.

[@AnnBoylen]

A tiny construction crew instead of cranes for low density residential housing, please 😂😂😂

[@Armandosparadais69]

I hope fps will be better when building big cities at the release of the game

[@savagesam205]

Beautifully done. Your attention to detail is astonishing. The cinematic shots at the end of the video are looking fantastic!

[@Infrastructurist]

Thank you - I really appreciate that. Worked very hard on it ☺☺☺

[@AlinaBrattig]

I almost watched every early access gameplay videos (English and German) and riverview is by far the best looking city I’ve seen! So much details and a lot of inspiration for my own city. Thank you!

[@jpennin1]

Wow, I just realized that they must have fixed all the lights being on in the buildings during the day as I don't see them in this video! Glad to see that fixed! 😀

[@fremanwu455]

Wow, u make me re play the video! They are gone

[@PTB_BE]

"there are no sidewalks on the street, so yeah, America Baby" And that's why we love this channel so much. It's amazing to see your journey, and for the love of god: don't stop making these videos :D

[@Infrastructurist]

Hahahah - thanks a lot - and don't worry, no intention of stopping especially not with the lovely support and feedback from all of you ☺☺

[@sergeygladkikh8520]

I have no words to describe how amazing it looks. I have not been so hyped for any game in 10 years as I am hyped for CS2!

[@Karloetzi]

same

[@avicohen2k]

As an architect with city planning education I can tell you severing a city from a river with a rail that is hard to cross and unattractive is the most destructive thing you can do. A train track doesn't benefit from a river view. Housing leisure and commercial do! Not to , mention land value. trains are large noisy and unattractive, you don't need them center downtown.The right move is to place a few key stations on the outskirts and have other transits like bus, subway or tram leading it. Old cities that had this do to poor design and old era industrial focus are always less attractive and successful from cities that don't. Don't copy old cities do to nostalgia without understanding whats right and what's wrong about them.The rail could have been your "natural" border near the mountains instead of the fake river you carved there..

[@PrivatePreston]

I’ve watched a lot of CS2 videos and yours are the best ones by far. I’m so hyped for this game, it’s incredible what you can do without mods. Already using your videos as inspiration for my first C2 city 🙂 Ps: your voice and accent reminds me of Giorgio Moroder which is awesome to picture him playing lol

[@JamesFluker]

The scales feel much larger in this game. Like suburbs feel like they spread more, downtown feels smaller by comparison. I think it makes the city feel bigger.

[@luizarthurbrito]

I absolutely hate that when you zone on top of low density, the buildings disappear. In SimCity 4, houses would be kept and if there was demand, higher density would "buy" the houses and then be built. The other way around was also true. If I zoned hight density first, some tall buildings could pop up, but houses could be built as well if demand was low. That's a major flaw of this franchise since 2015.

[@brianfleming767]

Is there a reason why the roads in everyone's videos are so empty? Parked cars everywhere, but practically nobody driving.

[@juanestevanosorio8671]

i want to know that too

[@seriphyn8935]

Love everything so far! I like the grid size variation but I have one polite critique, which is to not do the same with mixed housing. Since they're wall-to-wall (not sure if some aren't), you might be missing out on making some nice solid blocks of buildings, but maybe that is your preference!

[@terranceramirez4816]

The population mechanic appears to be even more whack in CS2 than in CS1. After all that buildout and on the verge of unlocking high-density housing (after the city already had a proper skyline, mind you) the population hadn’t even cracked 10k. To my sights by that point it had the appearance of a 50-70k city here in the western US. I hope that realistic population is one of the first mods released for CS2.

[@scs-yt]

This game's graphics is missing something that I can't put my finger on. It doesn't look realistic at all. Maybe it's your graphics settings, dunno. I expected more from CS2, yet, it looks exactly like CS1.

[@Feyricho]

That's great and all. But 9,500 inhabitants yet it looks like a city which holds way more people. They still havent adressed this problem.

[@Cool_penguin_X]

your city looks like a real town. i can't wait till it releases on steam. Keep up the good work

[@Infrastructurist]

Thank you! ☺

[@JamesMEEKSo1]

One thing that worries me about all the cities skylines 2 gameplay ive seen is that roads look so quiet. Like is there much traffic anymore? I really hope they havent made traffic management easier by just making less traffic.

[@darthgarreth1306]

In my opinion, this new CS2 looks terribly plastic. The previous version with mods looks much more realistic.

[@Skovidesign]

I feel like this city looks more like a 30k-40k city rather than a 10k one and the city hole building looks way out of proportion. I don't like it how they didn't fix these number are building scaling issues :S maybe it gets better in later stages. But I must say this is the most convincing city I've seen in CS2, this one makes me excited about the game, feels so natural.

[@SPACEGOD21]

Holy shit, those fps in an unmodded game. This will be borderline unplayable with a certain amount of mods and assets.

[@mikechrys4044]

It would be cool if those antennas could be applied on top of tall buildings just like the way you upgrade a hospital for example.

[@faustinpippin9208]

i wish there was a option for a parking spot with trees betwen the parking spots (by the hood or back of the cars) I have seen a lot of parkings like this in commercial zones with big parkings and they are great, sometimes it feels like a forest

[@alexflosho]

The only thing wrong about this is that not a single realistic American town should have public transport

[@tomkpunkt]

This blur effect if you move the cam is very annoying. how does if feel if you play the game?

[@raphaut]

It’s amazing that the city looks so realistic without any assets and mods. Can’t imagine what it looks like once they‘re are available in the workshop

[@jzeltman]

definitely the best looking CS2 city so far compared with all the other channels getting to play now. really like how you’re building

[@Infrastructurist]

Thanks a lot - its very encouraging that you feel that way. (and thanks for having subscribed for more than 5 years!!) ☺

[@yasamakbudegil]

is the game lagging on even 8k population? lol. smells like some paradox issues.

[@ShrimplyTheBestCo]

Wow this is really looking good. Also got me more hyped for cs2. The road tools look so fun to work with

[@squidwardo7074]

Is it just me or does the footage look very choppy? I hope its not the game doing that

[@vg189z5]

How's it running? Looks a bit buggy when turning the camera

[@anto8375]

I'm confused, is 9000 people a big city?

[@arturr5]

I'm concerned about the performance of the game... You have a decked out PC and yet the game lags while your city only has 4k residents. I suspect this was the reason that the devs didn't want people on YT to progress to a certain level.

[@capnsteele3365]

yea, its kinda concerning knowing the minimum requirements are pretty old. they better optimise this game

[@Dozer456123]

It can't just be me worrying about the framerate can it?

[@michahogelo]

i thought you could terraform outside of your purchased tiles for free? best city i've seen so far. so excited to play cs2 myself.

[@Infrastructurist]

Turn out that this was actually a bug hahahah - You need to purchase the tile first 😀

[@michahogelo]

@@Infrastructurist ahh too bad hahahah makes sense tho

[@MartinWastlund]

Wonderful work! I especially like how the constant demand for low-density housing forces a more natural development of the city.

[@japes7]

Yes I was a bit worried after this newest round. You seem to need vast low density areas. But it is a bit more realistic and also makes you densify the zones as time goes on or land value goes up. If it works like that I'll be very happy.

[@spleen1015a]

Any particular reason why you haven't leveraged the specialized industries at all yet? I assume they're a good way to make money.

[@Infrastructurist]

Hi Matt! I haven't needed money at all, and its mainly just been a matter of time-restriction: prioritizing other things ☺

[@s4098429]

Is it just me or is CS2 really grey and desaturated?

[@TheDroneExperiment]

Graphically I was hoping for a step up ... not gonna lie, graphically this looks like Cities: Skylines 1.5

[@Infrastructurist]

I think it's a very fine balancing act because much of the community also explicitly wants the ability to build big sprawling cities with a great feel of creative freedom - but that is going to create extreme requirements for optimization if the graphics are also going to be "next-gen". ☺

[@TheDroneExperiment]

Correct. I have a super high end system and will be relying on mods to take this game to the next level graphically speaking. @@Infrastructurist

[@AmineArfaoui]

I feel the cities are too “grey” in this new cities skyline

[@cheungchingtong]

How do you view the impact or consumption of Vram by building a huge city with more than 500k population? Donno if you have expanded your city this far, asking this question is because I have similar specs like you do but 4070ti 12G and 6G DDR4, being worried about it.😂

[@supernenechi]

I don't know if this is really American enough. Building a railway station? I know the US was built on rail, but they're only demolishing them today, not making new ones. The sprawl does look quite nice, all low density as per. But what are you doing using mixed zoning! No way any real American city with all their freedom would ever allow anyone to freely build shops below houses!

[@saldridge92]

9:19 the rail system looks awesome! Can’t wait!

[@yogiest]

Im Worried about performance of the game tho.

[@aleksandarmarre7878]

He sounds like a spy “I am from realistic North American city of Riverview. I am just average American bachelors”

[@Pooter-it4yg]

I think Paradox should reinstate the scaffolding animation for low rise buildings. Construction cranes for low density housing and shops look silly.

[@christopherjunkins]

For the sake of those who get sick or have headaches, it might be a good thing to turn off the motion blur, you'll also get a few more FPS out of your system in doing so apparently. Even I'm starting to get affected by the motion blur of this game in the videos that feature it...

[@MrSoles]

Hey, man. Nice city. The only problem is that I ordered a lovely cheese pizza to enjoy whilst watching this episode. Unfortunately for me, the delivery person found one of the bear traps instead. 😑

[@Ensivion]

I'm trying to pin your accent but it doesn't sound American, it sounds like a german that has lived in America for a while. American cities don't look like this mostly but it's still a nice looking series.

[@bellsoflagunabend6668]

“American city” and “mixed density” 👁️👄👁️, Jokes aside this looks really cool

[@snuke2703]

I just can't get over how easily accessible really good looking street layouts are becoming that were previously walled behind various mods, jankiness and more time investment. The process looks a lot more effortless which is the kind of qol improvement that is often more important than new features.

[@Infrastructurist]

Just wait till you get to try it out for the first time - it is such a massive upgrade to CS1, I cannot stress that enough! 😀

[@unlimitedtimez341]

Love everything about this besides one big issue. The frame rate is bad, and you're on a pretty high performance PC so this game is going to be very hard to run which is dissapointing.

[@TeddyRadko]

3rd! Im so in love with this already :')

[@Reoh0z]

> "...unreliable internet service is one of the main detractors to the happiness of my citizens." Me too man.

[@aitor7207]

absolutely amazing! I can't wait to play Cities Skylines 2

[@Infrastructurist]

Soon aitor, soon! ☺☺☺

[@SirLANcel0t]

I genuinely think the development points are an amazing system. I always used to get super overwhelmed by Cities Skylines and everything that got unlocked. which usually led to me rushing stuff and getting even more overwhelmed. The development points system is a nice way to force someone like me to think through what to go for next. Which will hopefully lead to me taking my time more and going slow.

[@JBCreatieve]

Nice city you have,and like the music in background wen you building 👍👍👍

[@tubz]

most unrealistic thing is an American city having a good tram network and a good real network

[@ВИТАЛЯ-п6й]

прикольный город! скорее бы уже вышла CS2 хочется поиграть уже!

[@danielfairchapel3133]

8 years for this??? People say this game is completely different and not compatible with CS1... BUT I SEE THE SAME GAME AND SAME GRAPHICS... I won't buy the same for starting from scratch

[@danielfairchapel3133]

@@aboxoftentacles1395 It seems that the rats left the trap...

[@aboxoftentacles1395]

@@danielfairchapel3133 Okay troll

[@danielfairchapel3133]

@@aboxoftentacles1395 At least I don't delete my previous comments to hide myself. Who's the troll then? It's hilarious 😂

[@aboxoftentacles1395]

@@danielfairchapel3133 You.

[@Simulate1NinetyNine]

Can't wait for release!

[@SanctumGamer]

This is just magical!! Beautifully done!

[@Infrastructurist]

Thank you very much, I appreciate that. And I have watched quite a few of your lovely builds as well! ☺

[@Meeesa]

A goat comments on a goat. Lol.

[@ff85478]

@@Meeesa😂

[@Skyfoogle]

what happens when you zone low density commercial on pedestrian-only streets? does it still feature parking lots?

[@Infrastructurist]

That.... is a great question hahaha. I actually haven't even tried as I haven't placed the pedestrian-only street yet at all (MURICA BABY!) ☺

[@Boydar]

0:52 I didn't know there's jaywalking in the game!

[@marcfilsinger4196]

are you allowed to progress further privatley?

[@Infrastructurist]

Hi Marc! Yes - we are free to play and test the game in whatever way we want ☺

[@Cberk03]

i hope they address this no traffic thing before release. kinda strange

[@lordcarloshere]

The motion blur on camera movement is mildly unkomfortable 🤮

[@OConstrutorbb]

owww my goodd!!!

[@CptBlaueWolke]

for some reason I really like the lowkey antiamericanism.

[@TheSeb12345]

Great episode again 👍 its again really nice that you have a feeling for density and height in your city and dont swing the high rise brush and make some concrete hell. The street and rail building looks really smooth, easy and good the last epsiode already selled me to preorder. Cant wait to see what the further (specialized) industry zones will looke like and i´m really exited for the game.

[@joaquincimas1707]

How the scale looks with that huge buildings in the street level? Does it feel like the street is full of life? Beyond that, i love the mix of small streets, normal streets and the avenues you achieve. The game looks amazing!

[@Infrastructurist]

Hi Joaquin! I feel the scale is much improved - cars, pedestrians, buildings - even hedges and fences which could be cartoonish big in Cities Skylines 1. There also seems to be an improvement to how Mountains are scaled - they look enormous in this map! ☺

[@mertronael]

Looks incredible! how is the performance so far?

[@zevo8293]

God I can't wait to play this.

[@Infrastructurist]

Soon zevo, soon! ☺👍

[@andreabrunetta36]

I hope there will be some option for color blindness...

[@SourBNU]

Also I don’t subscribe because that’s earned.

[@SourBNU]

The amount of smart cars on the road is pissing me off

[@alessandropinto5507]

The stadium is smaller than the elementary school!

[@FlyxPat]

Yours is one of the most realistic-looking. Also Silvarret's St Luke rural island one.

[@IIISentorIII]

18 fps gaming FTW

[@spamfilter32]

couple of those high rises looked nice. I especially liked the one that was white with maroon sides. Would you consider re-doing the roads in the harbor area/along the river so that they get the quay walls?

[@Infrastructurist]

I might at some point! It will require a full revamp but it might be worth it 😊

[@spamfilter32]

@Infrastructurist if you feel up for it, I thinkbit will be worth it, for the aesthetics of it. But if you do it, you can do it off camera since you only get 30 min per episode.

[@LucasMichelsen-y3t]

If the city grows, can you create a semi purpose built street circuit in downtown or on the island in the river(like belle isle in Detroit or Hutchison island in Savannah)? I dont have city skylines, but I’ve always wanted to see someone do this in the game😄