Building a BRAND NEW Russian Battlegroup - Broken Arrow

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Building a balanced Russian Battlegroup to give you a heads up on what units I think will be good and worth using during the Open Beta. This doesn't mean don't try out the other units of course, but definitely make sure to mix in some I recommend.
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[@VulcanHDGaming]

Are you excited for the Broken Arrow Open beta!? Tomorrow it will start and I'll be streaming all afternoon and evening on Twitch. Make sure to come along: www.twitch.tv/vulcanhdgaming P.s. Sorry about the worse mic quality, I'm working on it and it should be better for the next video showing the Americans! :)

[@CT--rg2fu]

Hey Vulcan when will we see another of your Spain Medieval II Total War videos? Also good episode today.

[@Agent_bIack]

Can u tell me exactly what computer u use with specs and everything and dumb it down for me please. I’ve never owned a computer or anything like that. An I really want to play this game and I’m unsure of what to look for to get to play this game. I don’t wanna go to Best Buy ask some tech guy an he gives me some overpriced bs but at the same time I don’t want to build my own because I don’t know how 😅

[@bulletproof3972]

A thing to look out for when choosing which AA missle to bring for your fighter jets is if the missle is active or passive. Active means it has its own radar system and can guide itself in on the enemy, so the missle is fire and forget. Passive means it only has a radar receiver and needs the plane do designate the target with its own radar, so your plane has to keep the lock on the enemy and cannot evac immediately.

[@user-pe8yi9uh7d]

active missile isnt really fire and forget, it flies approx 2/3 of the way using data from mothership and own radar turned off for battery life purposes but in this game, yeah, fire and forget it is

[@bulletproof3972]

@@user-pe8yi9uh7d yeah, I don't have the full technical know how, but that's what the game designers often do with em. Thanks for the additional info!

[@evanwiger]

So does passive do more damage?

[@user-pe8yi9uh7d]

@@evanwiger irl, no, it depends on missile itself in game check stats of each missile for this info fox1s (passive) are probably just cheaper

[@evanwiger]

@@user-pe8yi9uh7d gotcha

[@WurstWesen82]

I appreciate the model quality and the fact that they have also implemented multiple camouflages for all units. Very very nice indeed.

[@kspectre21]

Deck Building is easily my favourite part of Wargame and this is going to scratch that itch and even more with all the unit customization. I'm so looking forward to spending 20+ hours building decks with cool looking units and then getting stomped by the easiest AI in my first match lmao

[@stratdaddy]

Real

[@texoschannel4907]

Tunguska can shoot down missiles using 30mm autocanons, so they should be good for layered AD, they could cover Buks or S-300

[@potatoes_yumm]

Id just like to draw attention to the fact that the Typhoon VDV and DROK mortar carrier are not yet able to be paradropped, even though irl thats one of the advantages. I hope this is just for the Beta, because that would be quite dissapointing

[@harveyjones6234]

this may actually be the best part of this game, the actual editor

[@Blauerkavenzmann]

70% of my time in all the "Wargame" games is in the editor. Don't know why, but it just tickles my brain.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

ohh man a feast for the eyes! I'm gushing over that attention to detail and micromanagement of the different individual units.

[@abram4806]

Ima try to airdrop all my BMDs and VDV at the start but just to get them in the frontlines fast and take the objectives

[@CapybaraConnoisseur89]

Very excited for game, but I am not doing MP at all, just gonna stick to watching you guys. I will wait for full version with everything available.

[@christopherhutchens8077]

I won't. I'm sick and cold with hot tea and the internet.

[@thecommunistparty1917]

​@@christopherhutchens8077 dang, hope you get better soon bro 👍

[@Frozander]

I am mainly excited for scenario editor etc. So I can create scenarios. GEM Editor was the only reason I played MoW for so long (and still do). I love comprehensive editors.

[@beltempest4448]

Multiplayer is great though, the way I’ve been playing makes other players just bots to me

[@royalhistorian5109]

A could of things to note: -The T-15 was easily one of the most broken IFV options in the beta as just one upgrade to the 50mm option makes it stupidly busted, allows you to destroy every other IFV except another T-15, has armour like an MBT, and ATGMs, it was that stupid, in fact, it was so good they just call it in by itself, that was until they nerfed it and honestly in a unique way, they still kept the 50mm option but give you worse ATGMs if you do. Post-patch T-15 is still strong but thankfully not as busted. -There was a drama about one of the planes being able to carry a bomb or something like that, I forgot that it shouldn't be to carry or use and made more busted, I think it was the SU-57. -Russian foot infantry loss hard against the US, and even their anti-infantry specialist which can win against the Standard Marine...still gets defeated against Marine Raiders so yea use your IFVs to support your infantry or static weapons speaking of which static weapons Russia has access to static grenade launcher use, which had..until they buffed the Dragon by giving its team a 50 Cal and Static Grenade Launcher which I am happy because honestly the Dragon Team was so dam unless compare to the other option the TOW. -Helicopters feel slugs to control and I do hope they fix them. -While I am fine with prototype units in general, the main problem I have is why the fuck is the US stuck with old carp while Russia gets all of their prototype units like seriously why is the US still using M60s, Dragons (they buffed them to make them a weapon team now), M16 (Marines had the right load out in the first beta so wtf did they change it?), and etc. As I said earlier, I am fine with prototype units...if both sides receive them and well you can see that isn't even the case like it is night and day of stupid, I do hope once the game becomes accessible once more that they fix this problem. -Where are my BMPs and T-72s like seriously? Tank Guard doesn't have them? The Armor Spec...doesn't have BMPs or T-72s? In fact, the majority of their IFVs are prototypes...like seriously? Overall, I do enjoy Broken Arrow but I am a bit concerned about the balance, but I shall wait until later as currently there are only two specs for each faction so yea let's wait until the other specs are open to us.

[@georgy1858]

Keep in mind that this is still a beta, as not even half of the units are in the game yet

[@user-jp2hs7gv6i]

в танковой специализации так много прототипов, потому что она косплеит 1 танковую армию, именно в 1 танковой армии находятся подразделения получающие новейшую бронетехнику т-72, бмп 1,2,3 будут в мотострелковой специализации США используют старое вооружение по двум причинам 1. более современное оружие будет в других специализациях и так же можно кастомизировать уже имеющиеся юниты 2. это третья мировая, в ней нельзя победить регулярной армией, обе стороны возьмут все оружие что у них есть я бы америке еще и м48 дал, а России т54, т55

[@user-jp2hs7gv6i]

there are so many prototypes in the tank specialization, because it cosplays 1 tank army, it is in 1 tank army that there are units receiving the latest t-72 armored vehicles, BMP 1,2,3 will be in the motorized rifle specialization The United States uses old weapons for two reasons 1. more modern weapons will be available in other specializations and you can also customize existing units 2. this is the third world war, it cannot be defeated by a regular army, both sides will take all the weapons they have I would also give America the m48, and Russia the t54, t55

[@royalhistorian5109]

@@georgy1858 I know, I already mentioned that we have two specs but even so it is still concerning.

[@royalhistorian5109]

@@user-jp2hs7gv6i Maybe but it should work both ways, both the US and Russia should have tons of prototypes with limited availability just like Wargame Red Dragon but nah man Russia gets all of the prototype units with the vast majority of them not being mass-produced or better yet still not out of the testing phase while the US get stuck with old carp which I am also fine if Russia also has it but again nope, they get all of the high tech which baffling. Sure it is the Beta but it does leave a horrible first impression. Also wtf did they change the Marines's loadout? They were correct during the first Beta but decided to change to an older loadout...why? They didn't give us the option to give them the more modern loadout...while again Russia gets right off the gate.

[@chrunkel]

In this game you can call the Russian army the ✨fantasy force✨ They use so many vehicles that never saw big scale production.

[@harveyjones6234]

also looking at the individual missiles (AAM) for they have Anti missile capability, not all of them do the small target icons on the panel will tell you what they can and cannot target

[@TheShadow89090]

Do we get the option to put Cope cages on our tanks and an option for naval guns for our apcs?

[@HATCH5T]

Yes its a really great idea since Israel and India have started installing them too, go cry or cope somewhere else

[@LinkLaine]

i didn't even heard about some vehicles in battlegroup builder, will be very interesting to learn about them more and try it out in games

[@AbyssWatcher745]

Not surprising, lots of prototypes and limited production vehicles like the 2S25 Surut SD which Russia only has 24 of.

[@wjorst6159]

i normally don't watch this kinds of video, but damn, BA just offered a lot more than Warno when it comes to customization, really waited a long time for this game and I really enjoyed this video, also Vulcan, can you do the same video, but with American deck? thankss

[@VulcanHDGaming]

American preview will be out later today!

[@stratdaddy]

I was just looking for this this morning 😈😈😈

[@Davidjh-1994]

i wonder if you will be able to use your custom decks in the single player campaign when the full game is out. that would be cool.

[@Pikilloification]

Looking nice. Wonder how will it work in MP though, when inevitably a loadout will be meta and the rest gets never used...

[@Phantom1188_]

That will be a sad day but honestly I think there’s enough combinations that it will either take a long time for that to happen or it won’t happen at all.

[@TheAxeaman]

There will probably be DLCs.

[@selvacin]

So i have played a few matches now trying to figure out how anti radiation missiles work and i just can't figure it out. Do you have any demos on how to use these in game?

[@Halvatore]

The Typhoon 30mm upgrade onyl for the first type of troops?

[@chinofchrist730]

Anyone know if we'll be able to party up with friends for the multiplayer?

[@Joachim133793]

You do invest quite heavily into AA, considering you dont really get that many planes and helicopters

[@claybillings]

Just a heads up I think you forgot to put the autocannon on your other VDVs (unless that was intentional), maybe drop that last sarmat to add.

[@NDavis37F]

Random question - but when you select a unit and transport for the battlegroup does it lock it to that mode of transport? I've seen in previous videos that you can swap that out on the fly in game or does this option supercede that?

[@user-pe8yi9uh7d]

if you select squads A and B to have transports A and B respectively, you can bring them in such transports however, if tranport B has enough seats, it can bring in squad A inside it this does not however allow you to bring recon units in transports assigned to infantry, but does allow you to bring different recon units in same transport if there is enough seats

[@jonnyzboyz]

Really really nice!

[@jeremiah9561]

man, brandon would've loved this game

[@enzojules4735]

will it be available on the 31st at 0:00 or is there a time ? i cant get into the official discord its weird it doesnt work

[@evanwiger]

10:30 GMT

[@muadddib]

What comes after Refreiter? Geldwebel? (inb4 its an insider and i am an idiot lmao)

[@WurstWesen82]

Geldwebel 😂

[@marcell9333]

I hope the skirmish mod will be available in single player as well.

[@jaywerner8415]

HMMMMM, if im not mistaken it looks like you can AIR DROP the BMPs and RTD transports. Thats interesting, air dropping Vehicles is pretty RARE (if not none existent) in games like this.

[@Muddybagclean]

Wish they would had drone squads with different functions

[@juventus7131]

I have the game downloaded but I for the life of me can’t find a multiplayer match.

[@Shindeiru69]

Is this game takes place in the year 2040?

[@xoni7770]

no vikhr on KA-52? This is his signature weapon

[@fly_pie_1172]

i feel there are a lot of missing units from previous game builds and trailers...also missing 2 specializations for each nation

[@hopedream11]

Yeah definitely. Maybe they have to be unlocked in full release or are hidden?

[@Mine-md8oz]

Camos are so cool

[@avenpreston2001]

weight is in kg right?

[@caboongtheloremaster669]

As I know during the Ukraine-Russian war, the modern armies are developing the drone attack and scout, hope they bring them into the game someday

[@placeholder4819]

all you have to know from Ukraine-Russian war is that all drones, other than FPV and Iranian shakhed drones, are useless against an enemy with ecm and aa.

[@LauftFafa]

@@placeholder4819 Russia's drones that are not FPV like lancet andshahed/Geranium use Ai and EW dont work much on them . reason Lancet have technically became the new javelin of warfare because much cheaper and with high penetration that can cripple any wester tank especially if it hit in neck of the turrent where the blast get easily inside the tank from that gap and cripple the tank

[@placeholder4819]

lancet fliest at nearly fpv speed, has fpv range, but not fpv got it@@LauftFafa

[@ghostbride8718]

Copium @@placeholder4819

[@Pikilloification]

Oh yea, those drones are working so well for russia: war over by christmas

[@ROIBR]

Sry dont play too many Strategy Games. What do you mean with Seed in like referring to 35,min about the PLane Loadout?!

[@VulcanHDGaming]

SEAD , Suppression of enemy air defence. In this case referring to a missile that is used in that role. Hope that helps!

[@ROIBR]

@@VulcanHDGaming ahh cool thnx M8

[@STRYKER1467]

T-90M in the recon brigade ? The Sprud-SD was just made for this.

[@hopedream11]

I swear the game had mire vehicles probably will be DLC

[@HuntsmenSpider]

Alr going to be honest here not going to follow any of this advice for unit comp as fun is diffrent for everyone but still very informal with what you are saying and i am going to contridict myself with this, i will info and keep it in mind.

[@Maverick966]

T-14 Armata is not vulnerable to top attacks, if you look on top it has APS grenades to destroy top attack missiles, the top protection armor value is for the composite armor

[@TheRogueEmpire]

dude, the t 14 doesnt even exist. how do you know whats its is and isnt vulnerable too? every info about it if from russian propagandists. at this point, people still talking about the t14 as if its anything at all is hilarious. only about 6 of them exist and the only use they have is to threaten to send them to ukraine to scare the stupid cowardly west.

[@DanielNotWise]

@@TheRogueEmpire APS Trophy also never worked in real combat conditions. 0 evidence on video, RPG grenades easily hit Merkavas in GAza Strip But in-game Abrams sep4 with trophy will reflect all anti-tank missiles I sure. But turbojohns in MAGA caps will think that this is not a copium and everything is realistic here

[@michaelgore8833]

you mised the part that the su57 can paint its own targets thats HUGE

[@LinkLaine]

I don't see how ballistic missiles are implemented in game. is this some unit for this in other specialisations?

[@Rupertssons]

Some large bomber planes can carry ballistic missiles on their pylons. They launch from a very long distance, keeping the plane safe from anti air fire

[@LinkLaine]

@@Rupertssons oh I thought they only can carry cruise missiles

[@harveyjones6234]

Id also considering this seems to be the most realistic battle simulator or war simulator to date, really delve into the armaments and what they actually do, especially with the jets and aircraft... cause the r77s are BVR radar guided. not just long long range. but able to fire and forget

[@Navinor]

Yeah especially because it is the up date super modern equipment.

[@TheSlazzer]

Realistic? Just look at how the Russian army is doing in Ukraine and what equipment is ACTUALLY being used there. The T14 armata is not a tank in active service. Please don't forget this is just a game, very unrealistic in terms of which equipment is used. That doesn't mean that it's not going to be fun (I bet it will be) but we can't call it realistic...

[@seandaly3852]

Maybe widen your gaming menu - for RTS games maybe but there are far superior/realistic sims out there currently - Command Modern Ops , DCS and Steel Beasts to name a few

[@underpaidmook]

For those complaining that Russia is using vaporware units: 1) It's a game. 2) Russia needs them to be competative with the US lol

[@cdgncgn]

exactly playing to western superiority complex so that they can cope in a game that depicts reality wrongly.

[@freetime5803]

People learning that games need this thing called *balancing* for the first time?

[@hopedream11]

US has vaporware in active service lmao also it's to pad out the roster and units. Otherwise you could just play Wargame with T90's etc. Personally I don't mind the prototypes if they're balanced

[@rzu1474]

Do the russian tanks come with or without fuel?

[@LauftFafa]

dude still stuck in march 2022

[@rzu1474]

@@LauftFafa Right. Sorry. These days they do suicide charges. Much more fitting for this type of game

[@LauftFafa]

@@rzu1474 once more , Dude thinking Storm Z storm troopers as Russia's only mean of warfare . Please if you have nothing useful to add dont waste my time you are being a clown and you are talking a guy with 15 years experience in geostrategy and military warfare so preserve me from your casual way of thinking . Your eyes do not see what i see you probably can't even read a military map so lets end it here.

[@rzu1474]

@@LauftFafa Not much to read on the map, since Russia hasn't advanced in... Can In a year. Besides. Currently there's an offensive going on. Same as last winter offensive. Go suck Putin's feet somewhere else

[@user-jp2hs7gv6i]

America has forgotten all its weapons in Afghanistan)

[@seandaly3852]

Fantasy Russian Battlegroups

[@DarioMalagigi]

Russia still uses a Berezka camouflage? is weird

[@LauftFafa]

did they remove it after Ratnik reforms ?

[@DarioMalagigi]

@@LauftFafa usually was gorka's suit, i saw fews of this in some videos from Ukraine (very few) referred from the olds militias from Donetsk and Luhansk, but nowadays i just saw Ratnik (summer), Multicam and a very subtle camoufalge three color khaki and light/dark green

[@LauftFafa]

@@DarioMalagigi oh i think its because the game will have some older unites too . If i remember the Russians will have an infantry type that is wearing like chechen war outfit called Auxiliary i don't think they are on this beta . But the game allow one to have a deck with unites from 90s or from 2023+. The american too have some old cold war stuffs like sheridans m60 and more

[@user-dg2bh7tx2j]

На данный момент Берёзка в войсках уже не используется, причём давно. Однако я видел, по крайней мере, две фотографии на которых бойцы ВС РФ используют маскхалаты в этой расцветке в индивидуальном порядке. Наверное, это какие-нибудь приверженцы старой школы, но видеть берёзку в комплекте с современным плитником как-то странно. Разведчики сейчас используют различного рода камуфляжи: мультикам, атакс и другие коммерческие камуфляжи, совмещая их с уставным ЕМР-1 и ЕМР-2.

[@Hopeman__TM]

maybe turn your microphone down and edit it afterwards louder again. you have a lot of overdrive on your microphone. Cant wait for broken arrow :D thx for the videos

[@VulcanHDGaming]

Yeah I'm making adjustments all the time. Latest Windows update messed things up

[@callmedaviro970]

Why would you take a buratino over a grad??

[@ghostbride8718]

Kinda wish there was france

[@bencegyenis322]

Im sure they will come later but russia and us are the obvious choice for first countries

[@ghostbride8718]

Of course! @@bencegyenis322

[@madeconomist458]

RU is MASSIVELY OP in the beta. Hopefully in the final launch they will have fixed it.

[@LauftFafa]

Russia feels OP because their doctrine is about proper warfare while the Usa have a lack of diversity because it care more about bombing the enemy then sending humvees and abrams clean the rest and this is precisely when you feel Russia is op. you simply dont have too many options as USA to explain it better: If they are OP its because Russia'sarsenal allow things the american weapons cant do . lot of their weapons like Tos are classic Russian doctrine but beside TOS they have things equivalent to himars and atcms and even beyond . for each american type you get 5 Russian equivalents with variety of results . they also have a huge range of apcs all amphibious and light tanks while the USA focus on 1 or 2 per type and almost none are amphibious except the landing craft apc . Russia also is superior in helicopter they have like 2 soviet Era attack helicopters are 4 types post 2000 attack helicopters and this give them a massive flexibilitity . usa have only 2 types in conclusion Russia feel better because of their flexibility and diversity . they can for example easily cross a river here but if you play as usa you wont be able to send most your unites across . note i dont mean Russia by itself but the weaponry types . something even Ukranians did confirm when comparing western and Russo ukranian equipments

[@placeholder4819]

for russia they added a bunch of weapon exhibition weapons that have a total no. of units produced no more than 5. by this logic they should give usa ngad, that invisibility shield and that new light and no recoil lmg@@LauftFafa

[@madeconomist458]

​@@LauftFafa It has nothing to do with doctrine. It's just that Russia has way more equipment than America. Russia has strategic bombers, tons of MLRS and anti-air options, and way more and way better fixed-wing aircraft. The one and only thing America has in this build is TBMs, and even those can still be countered easily by AA.

[@LauftFafa]

@@placeholder4819 so .... produced no more than 5 in what year ? 2015 ? 2018 ? every thing changed in 2022 mate . in 2022 there was only only 5 Su57. now there there is 30 with 20 more to be built this year . T14 armata already entered service alongside southern military district after all tests were over this august and now only mass production is to kickstart this very year . k15 boomerang is already in mass production . Hypersonic is in mass production . no Recoils guns i suggest you to go check the latest kalashnikov releases . you seriously need to upgrade yourselves Russia kkckstarted mass production of most of these "prototypes" back in 2022 this mean they are no more prototypes . you also seriously need to work your imagination . this game is about ww3 , this mean Unites immediately get mass production priority after only few months of testing instead of a decade worth of testing and Russia already announced this that in their latest announcement regarding war production . they said that since industry is getting near war time speed then the Quality testing will be reduced heavily in order to increase speed of production .

[@Jonas-ey9vl]

Lmao Russia is good in BA because and only because half the units available to it in this game are prototypes or extremely rare vehicles that by no means represent the actual Russian military. Meanwhile the US gets M60 tanks and Dragon ATGMs which aren't used anymore since like 2000 and a Javelin takes two hits to kill an armored car. I'm not saying the game is imbalanced as a whole, but there are discrepancies in how much modern/futuristic equipment the factions get, and Russia is currently being heavily favored there

[@aopt471]

Funny that a lot of these weapons/vehicles don't really exist in russian armed forces.

[@Skytub3lp]

Funny how Russia gets the most modern equipment while in real life either only 2 exist or none at all :D Like how many Typhoons with the Autocannon are there? Is there even more than a prototype? For the Game it's fun obviously but maybe a bit stupid, might as well give America the NGAD now or maybe a future German Division the KF-51 Panther lol (since they include the fucking Armata)

[@SmokeDog1871]

Wouldnt be so bad if they didnt insist on making the US military so unrealistically weak. Should have F-35 and Raptors at least

[@hopedream11]

​@SmokeDog1871 they did in older builds. Odds are it's removed

[@Shortmansam1993]

lol, what in the Putin fan-fiction are some of these vehicles for Russia. We’ll have to wait and see the other focuses that are added later, but I was surprised not to see modernized T72s. We’re going to need some T62/64s and T55s for realism, maybe some mosins as well.

[@Someone-lr6gu]

Literally why would you want T-55s and Mosins

[@tankistrazumist]

If you want realism, then they need to add FPV drones for you (5 000 - 10 000 FPV drones for the price of one tank), it would probably be a very interesting gameplay.

[@cdgncgn]

I am for realism, not for pro-western fan fiction where Russian faction has to use prototypes, while old Abrams is doing just fine. Thing is, American arsenal is nonexistent and attrited, no industry to replace old. US proxy-slave faction could use T-64 with proper hindu markings.

[@SmokeDog1871]

Why do the russians have such advanced aircraft and the US only gets older stuff? Idk about this game, definitely getting a russian bias vibe from the devs. US has thousands of stealth aircraft in real life but doesnt get any in game/Russia has about 15 stealth aircraft but gets unlimited amount for their decks lol Dont even get me started on fantasy russian wunderwaffen decks with Armata series vehicles

[@Muddybagclean]

Jesus Loves You

[@kpt923923able]

Broken Arrow > Warno

[@aaropiilonen]

Why pick one? The way I see it both fill their own "niches", one is set in the cold war and the other in modern times. I don't see why they couldn't co-exist.

[@kpt923923able]

@@aaropiilonen Watch "wtf are you doing eugen?" by RANGROO.

[@TheSlazzer]

Looks a little bit too much like Russian Army propaganda. Eg The Armata tank is not even an active service tank as of 2024. This is just a game, yes, but I hope all folks playing this will be aware of that. There's also been some controversy surrounding the first trailer of this game, which frame-by-frame recreated real-life footage of Russia's Invasion of Ukraine; Russian BMPs shooting up Ukrainian Trucks, for example. So I'm a bit split on this game... If it were more realistic, we would see much more cheap conscript units and lots of artillery - for my taste, there's a bit too much high-tech in this deck builder. Especially if you consider that VDV units were shot up pretty bad, historically (2022+). So yeah - The Russian army being presented as in the same tier as the US' is very.... arcady, almost.

[@underpaidmook]

If they were realisitic, the Russians would lose every single time lol Also, T-72s and BMPs are in a different spec

[@user-me5oq3kl4h]

Yeah not same tier, above actually. After all, last time United States had any land war experience was almost 20 years ago.

[@punish01]

true, but there is an easy fix for that. Add all of US recently released/prototypes. I kinda wanna see new t-14 vs Abrams X.

[@TheSlazzer]

@@underpaidmook also, Marines would lose a lot of heavy equipment like the abrams. Curious that they opted to abandon the abrams but I guess they're not really meant to be frontline units as per their operational mission profile.

[@TheSlazzer]

@@underpaidmook what do you mean "different spec"?

[@xaxas94]

T-14s. T-15s and SU-57s available to use is pure copium

[@jussi8111]

its a game...

[@LauftFafa]

dude still stuck in 2015. how about you update yourself ? before i even start spitting facts this game is set in the near future and its ww3 in a time most these unite would become default unites and subjects for mass production but if your imagination is limited and you cant see Russia using an armata tank in the very near future then the issue is you not them and this why its you who is coping not them. for facts : 1 : Su57 entered service already in 2022 . Russia have 30 planes in service already lmao with 20 more to be built this year to make it 50 by december of this year but i bet even by then you would still think Russia only have 4 . Russia will make even more next year so they reach the commission goal of 84 Su57. T14 armata have ended its final stage of development this last summer and its about to enter mass production this very year and it already serve in southern military district . K15 boomerang is already in mass production Hypersonic is already in mass production doomsday submarine is in service and already at sea Ka-52 is already the new default attack helicopter of Russia what else ? literally everything mentioned in 2015 is either in service and mass production or about to get into mass production . but i suppose peoples like you arent aware that between announcing , testing and making a commission there is a 10 to 15 years gap of testing , improving , modeling , finalising then mass producing . F35 was being tested since early 2000s and didnt full enter mass production till like 2018 . in conclusion : you are the one in Cope . those unites you call fake are well in service or just waiting for mass production they are no prototypes anymore . and since this game is about ww3 how about you work your imagination a bit . i am pretty sure you had no issue playing with an f35 in a 2005 ps2 game but its an issue with Russia ?

[@NDavis37F]

Just one point - F35 has over 1,000 units produced with deliveries occuring to frontline units as early as 2015. 50 SU57's in 6 years is laughable.@@LauftFafa

[@bencegyenis322]

​​@@NDavis37Fyeah but russia didnt spent nowhere near as mush money as the us on its military since the fall of the soviet union, also they really needed to build up their whole economy after the fall again, so the military wasnt the first thing in consideration

[@user-dg9hq8uz3g]

​@@NDavis37F As if su 57 is the only russian plane in existence.

[@CrispyBakedPotato]

Too bad the game is full of Russian bias

[@dimitri1154]

Should it be full of American bias? Don't we have enough of those?

[@cdgncgn]

inferiority complex, not bias. And not trying to insult western audience at the same time by things like S-400, S-300V4, Pancir, Tor and Buk systems working at extra small ranges. RF AD complexes outrange and outperform everything US and proxies have. making serial production vehicles weak, while pushing fantasy prototypes. This is inferiority complex that is showing. Their own things are inferior, because these developers think themselves inferiors to westerners. Self-sabotage. This is really laughable. If Abrams was Russian and 10 years old ? It is ancient rusty tech. If it is american ? Wunder Waffe that never gets old. Did they simulate Abrams getting ddrowned in mud in rain off-road ? Probably not.

[@CrispyBakedPotato]

Yeah, just because they say a weapon is capable of XYZ doesn't make it true. We are seeing real performance in Ukraine. Not impressed

[@dimitri1154]

@@CrispyBakedPotato you could say the same for Patriot, IRIS-T, Storm Shadow, Leopard. All western toys Ukraine was supplied with. They can also be defeated and burn just as well. You could also say, unimpressed.

[@CrispyBakedPotato]

@@dimitri1154 except they are doing their job. Hard to argue with that. Turn off TASS and join the real world.

[@johan8897]

Wtf is this? Game made by Kremlin LMAO? If you would want actual russian army throw out all the fairy tale stuff like armatas, bumerangs or kurganec since all these are parade machines.

[@cdgncgn]

No, this is developer Russians inferiority complex, that believes any and everything in current service is trash vs western crap. This way they make it look like western equipment is actually so superior, when it is not at all. It gives a very misleading picture that downgrades Russian equipment, reinforces western superiority complex, that produces also unfounded fairy tales in the same direction - western stuff is quality regardless of reality. This leads to westerners overestimating themselves and underestimating Russia in general, a disaster for westerners.

[@Coloss92]

Another expert...

[@SmokeDog1871]

There are some russian devs working on this, apparently the main dev is french but who knows where they stand on anything

[@TheRogueEmpire]

a kremlin backed game no doubt. in reality it should be z zombie hordes attacking the nato positions.

[@seandaly3852]

Most of your modern Russian gear is currently rusting out on the field in Ukraine . A Realistic Deck would be offering MBT's T55's and T60's @@cdgncgn