Building A Custom Metal Roof Insert For The Schroll Coupe

[@elcaptindelmuerte]

I think we'd all like to see a profile video on Steve. You guys do great work!

[@tamasszombati4110]

Agree, maybe I missed, but I dont know much about him.

[@chuckb9867]

I did did not realize making a roof was such a nightmare I would have liked to seen a close-up of how that stretcher Shrieker thing works looks like it did a great job Moon looks happy with it big job thanks for the video

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Chuck, look it up on KZbin there’s videos on how a shrinker works. Thanks for watching

[@CORVAIRWILD]

Shreik! Your using a SHRINKER!!!

[@WatchingClosely301]

Once again, metal artistry - nice! Always enjoyable to watch you work!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@robertstuhr7846]

Love the idea of a pleated fabric roof covering! Very "little custom car book" of the '60s old school!

[@IronTrapGarage]

That’s the goal!

[@monstersmarsh4102]

The trunk lid and the roof is always the trickiest parts to fabricate in my opinion. ..

[@roberthaynes8467]

Glad to see OSHA sent Moon to check out the work today. Great job everybody.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Haha yep surprise inspection!

[@iamrichrocker]

concept of shaping and shrinking metal is incredible..great job matt and Steve...work great together ..

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@aaronb554]

Great video! Congratulations on the garage extension, too. That shop is super cool.

[@michaelguinn5736]

Morning Matt & Steve!! You sure are living a dream Matt!! The Schroll Coupe looks great!! Be safe!! God Bless!!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@DuckReach432]

A serious investment of man-hours for a single panel. The end result looks great, however, so bravo.

[@Paleoman52]

Wow! This was an incredible metal fab job. Looks really good and I can't wait to see it once the fabric is on it and it is in place on the car.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@racer6583]

The basic concept of shrinking/stretching is pinching/pulling the metal. When shrinking you are punching the metal together and making the metal thicker in the area you shrink. Stretching is pulling the area of metal thinner, even though you can't tell by eye if you take a caliber before you stretch/ shrink an area you will see that you make the metal in areas thicker or thinner this will help the metal to conform to your design. The real trick is getting the right amount of stretch or shrink in the right spot. And that comes from taking your time and goofing it up. It's always a learning process with metal and it's fun. That's just one of the reasons I watch Matt and the guys that help him reach the finish of a hot rod!!!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Good description of the process! Thanks for watching!

[@richardoswalt1009]

Good to see the Schroll coupe in its final stage hard to believe its been two years. The Schroll Imperial is in the shop getting the trans rebuilt, I plan to be at the Crysler nationals.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Awesome! Glad it’s close to back on the road!

[@gerrymilidantri6457]

beautiful job on the insert Matt

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you!

[@chuckster6513]

Hey Matt The roof insert just makes the cars that have them look so much better ! The two that I have done were welded in to give the car a complete metal roof. I used roof metal from later donor cars. That way the really slight curves were already built into the metal. Glad to see this car getting the attention so it gets back on the road. Work Safe, Be Well

[@stevenkarnisky411]

Very nice, indeed. Shaping that metal is an art, and you guys are artists.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you! Still learning but we do ok!

[@buckeyejim2989]

Mad respect for bringing this baby back🙏 Top looks Great from Ohio😁👍 Thanks for sharing

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks man!

[@harrycatrell1471]

Thanks for sharing, Matt and Steve! That was an excellent tutorial on something that really needed to be addressed! We've seen top inserts that may have been a bit "crude", but by following this process as closely as one is able, the results should be more than acceptable! 'Seems to be this would work on my sedan.....

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you Harry! I hope this was a good jumping point for others when they make their own insert!

[@terrancesweeney1870]

Great job Matt and Steve!

[@mg-lz3kk]

Fantastic work! You guys rock! Wish I had your patience!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnbehneman1546]

I LOVE IT!!! TOTALLY AWESOME ENGINEERING!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!

[@donhoughton271]

Good job , can't wait to see it with that appoltery.

[@robertjean659]

Your a whiz with metalwork. Really enjoy watching you ply your craft. 🇦🇺🇦🇺👍👍

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you!

[@sallybrokaw6124]

Matt I just Realized why I saw a Harbor Freight "english wheel" at a recent auction. The frame was made from square tubing and I suspect when wheel pressure got to a certain point the frame would "jack" causing the crown of the wheels to be running off center. This is why real english wheels are massive hunks of iron.AL B.

[@IronTrapGarage]

You’re right!

[@scottmartin356]

Loved the wheel action, talk about rocking and rolling!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks!

[@murdoc6501]

Wow, wow, wow! Incredible description of the process and taking us along for the fabrication. Artistry and attention to detail while honoring the history of the car! Go Iron Trap! Thank you! Keep moving forward!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@janyoung1633]

Saw an advertisement where someone mad a canvas waterproof sliding insert for a 32. Pretty clever idea.. Keep up the great work!

[@pinwizz69]

Matt, you guys have become artists at working metal into items you need to restore the cars you work on restoring. To bad you don't have 10 grand to buy a thousand to 1500 hundred watt laser rust removal tool. I got to see one in action at a convention and I couldn't believe how fast they cleaned up some steel I beam material. Hopefully the prices will drop within a few years and maybe Eastwood will begin selling them. Well, no matter you did an awesome job on prepping and making that insert the old fashioned way with lots of elbow grease. Can't wait to see you and Mike cruisin around in this Bad Boy ride on weekend runs.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching Ronnie!

[@DKing-jg7fl]

I've used a roof skin from a mid 90s Ford Ranger extended cab . Turned so the back of the cab faces the front of the coupe so the crown works out almost perfect. You still have to work the contour on the back corners but it saves a lot of wheel time on the rest of the panel. Like the idea of the studs , I might try that on the next one.

[@JML1955GMC]

Great job 👍

[@waynespiteri122]

Great work Matt, it will be cool with the white pleats.

[@thomasst.martin3308]

Wow. That's a lot of work, but it sure came out nice.

[@jerrylong381]

I like it Matt. I'm not a big fan of leaving the top open, it just looks incomplete to me. But hey, to each their own. During the time laps of you and Steve on the wheel, you guys were really Rocking and Rolling. Nice dance to achieve the goal. Thanks for bringing us along.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching Jerry!

[@robertminato2706]

Great job Matt.

[@johnkranz4004]

Excellent job Matt and Steve

[@CarterAutoRestyling]

Great job! That's a really tricky panel to make!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@MartsGarage]

Hello Matt. It's easy for people to not realise just how much shape there is in what at first glance appears to be a relatively flat panel like that. I did the same job on my 33 coupe but made a 3d template and found a bonnet (hood) at the local scrapyard that yielded up a nice panel. I put a hoop of heavier metal around it and bolted it in like you did. It came out very well. It was great to see how you went about this, and I am jealous of your wheeling machine and shrinker/stretcher. I have the roof on my 32 sedan to do, but will probably go with a stock type fabric setup. All the best, Mart in England.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Mart! Yea it’s surprising how much shape it takes!

[@jayinmi3706]

Carter Automotive did a roof insert, but he took his curve gauges to the junkyard to find an existing roof that already matched. It was an interesting way to handle it without needing an English wheel or anything special.

[@IronTrapGarage]

That way certainly works. It’s just not how I prefer to do it. Any way works if it looks good and is strong!

[@jhwk1970]

Turns out you can’t really build a complete car in 30 minutes like they do on tv. Thanks for sharing the processes. Wow.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Haha yea isn’t that crazy to think!

[@michaelhallas6450]

Came out very nice

[@bobdupre3721]

real nice real nice

[@dombutler7685]

Looks great!

[@douglasnicholls1366]

Nice looking panel!

[@bradeastham5494]

Wow you’re very talented! You made that look to easy, hope you love it? I sure do! Still my favourite car in the stable!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks!

[@TrashcanGarage]

Coming here does wonders for my motivation. Another great video. Thanks! 👍

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@MrJeep75]

Nice work

[@1955nomad]

Lookin good

[@drewpierce2273]

Seeing you use Winfield's English Wheel I wonder how your friend is doing these days? Hope well. Great instruction on fabbing a metal roof insert.

[@JamesDavis-to1hn]

Super job!!!!!

[@grandudetonesnob7107]

Schweet!

[@L.A55]

Darn what I wouldn't do for a hotrod like that!.. (within reason😂)

[@timwilson4967]

Magnificent work, Matt; thanks for this latest episode. I've been following the development of the Schroll coupe with the greatest interest. Ah, the mysteries of that English Wheel - and the shrinker, too! Just out of interest, what is the piece of music playing over the last section of the vid? It's really hot👍. Keep up your wizardry, on all your cars.👏 Tim, in England, running an Allard V8 Special.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching Tim! Song tracks are listed in the video description.

[@squidgameisaliarisawnosqui5341]

Looks good 👍 great video ty Steve

[@bullfrog13x4]

I cant wait to see that shop truck model a done , lol. P.S. great job at gilmores car museum...

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for coming out!

[@bullfrog13x4]

Unfortunately I was unable to attend (hopefully you will be there again). I was in the woods looking for a missing person. My uncle Jay Follis is the curator at gilmores car museum and I think it is awsome that you have put in the time, effort, and expense to pass on your experience to the future of this art craft.. I hope to be able to attend the next class , that is if you it agian. Jeremiah Raab

[@atlaspath5803]

Great vid - great music also!

[@billy2534]

Would like to see one of those panels all metal with 8-10 large beads (like what you did in the trunk floor) running front to back, painted either white like interior, or body color.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Not the look we’re going for but not a bad idea

[@HansensSpeedShop]

Man that's going to look super bitchin once its done nice job

[@MrVelocity111]

Well done guys please give us a close up with the pleated vinyl tuck under the edge of the insert thats the biggest problem getting it to lay down cause of the padding and pleats . Thx traditional rod are my thing the way high schoolers would have done in the mid to lates 50’s-63

[@IronTrapGarage]

That’s one of the reasons I like using those studs. you can tighten it down and compress the fabric/foam around the edges.

[@MrVelocity111]

@@IronTrapGarage , yeppers i use a 5/8-3/4 wide 3/16 tall channel and set the 1/4 20 bolts down thru it into the original tack strip channel area so it pulls the roof panel down without any pucker spots where the stud/bolts are attached to the roof panel . Luv what ur doing had my custom rod shop for ten years till housing market crash and i lost everything, but im good with it now , just suck i lost all my equipment paint booth hoist rollers etc. keep up the great work

[@black88coupe]

Great job 👍👍👍

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@robewalk2]

Matt, are you worried about leaks with the roof insert, or is the fabric pulled around the outer edges seal the insert? Good episode for sure, thirsting for more on the Schroll.

[@micregil]

I thought I remembered you saying that you were going to use the stock type roof insert.

[@johnnyjohn6527]

any updates on the 32 you sold .

[@steveturetzkin9829]

awesome hot rod

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@Tat2TankT]

Looks badass bro thanks for sharing 😎

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@mikeherrschaft7167]

Hell yea! better than chicken wire!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Most def!

[@TwoFeathersFarm]

Good morning! I was curious if it would be less work to use a roof panel from another car? Maybe take your gauge to the wrecking yard and find something with a similar radius and use that?

[@danielkeel9265]

But maybe not as much fun! It's nice to see it done from scratch.

[@IronTrapGarage]

I prefer to build from scratch. I can be done that way too.

[@henryg683]

Matt I was thinking what would it take to put a X bead on that foof panel maybe a circle in the in the middle for the dome light???? And add more strength to the panel??? I know your putting material from the interior guy on the outside is the inside going to be bare metal?? I know it’s more work but thinking it would look awesome 🤩!!!????

[@vintagerustmotors411]

The time-lapse on the English Wheel was hilarious! Like always great work fellows, and having fun too! Would rolling a bead around the perimeter shrink and strengthened the panel? Amateur guess here, just curious. Thanks

[@wayneforbes7671]

I would think it's sort of like dancing with a partner.

[@IronTrapGarage]

A bead could strengthen it but wheeling the panel like we did added strength.

[@gregl1824]

Awesome video. When using the wheel ... If you want to get the radius front to back , do you roll in that direction , or do you go side to side?

[@shotsrodder]

It’s amazing how quickly the metal moves when you are shrinking 😎 why didn’t you just weld in the panel and bodywork it 🤔

[@IronTrapGarage]

Not the look I was going for.

[@p3512at]

So when do we get to see the new garage?

[@BrunoWiebelt]

my favorit typ of video on my favorit car

[@garysoykin2783]

Have you ever thought about making a roof insert out of fiberglass like Kindig it dead a few years back?

[@IronTrapGarage]

Why make it from Fiberglass when we can make it from metal?

[@garysoykin2783]

@@IronTrapGarage I don’t know why he did that interesting

[@buchananautosalesllc7855]

SKILL THANKS FOR SHARING

[@ratrod6161]

Awsome

[@gseyank100]

So..you always use like 1” long tungsten? I always see the flat cap on the back of your torch

[@IronTrapGarage]

Prefer the shortie cap. It’s like 6-8” long

[@dennisschickling2249]

Nice Video. #STAYSAFE #PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸

[@nickmeoli6903]

How water tight will this style of insert be?

[@IronTrapGarage]

Water tight enough for occasional bad weather it might get caught in. If the Cheater slicks didn’t give that away..

[@nickmeoli6903]

@@IronTrapGarage LOL. It looks awesome!

[@katsumiskytower8714]

first! :3 very cool car! never paint it! its beautiful!!!!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@frankencoupe]

What gauge is that panel? Are the nuts on the inside recessed into the wood frame?

[@IronTrapGarage]

18 gauge. Not recessed. It’s getting a headliner.

[@stephenhammer7357]

did you seal under for when you get stuck in the rain?

[@IronTrapGarage]

It’s tight against the metal all around. Thus the studs all around. It’ll be plenty water tight for the occasional weather it will get in..

[@RichieCat4223]

I see you have Olds engines but do you have a Caddy engine to use in a project car ?

[@FoxSpeedshop]

I think the sweetheart roadster has a Caddy in it

[@RichieCat4223]

@@FoxSpeedshop Thanks

[@brucehorner936]

Wwould it hurt if you put fenders on it?

[@IronTrapGarage]

Yes yes it would. It’s an old channeled hot rod redone basically how it was back in the day.

[@jeremym6793]

What gauge steel did you use

[@IronTrapGarage]

18 gauge

[@benniecantrell6901]

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP WATER OUT?

[@IronTrapGarage]

It will be tight against the metal/wood. My model a coupe is the same and have never had any major problems.

[@jakleo337]

How the 'ole' pros do it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKuleJiwa9d_odk

[@IronTrapGarage]

Yep Walden is an expert! Similar process just using a power hammer.

[@jakleo337]

What they dont show well or talk about the large steel 'buck' , or form they use to bend and hammer on. Insuring a perfect fit every time. Also their steel x brace inside of MOD A doors is on another level. They cater to the concourses de elegance crowd.

[@joepiker]

Why is this car called the "Schroll" Coupe?

[@IronTrapGarage]

Go back to the early videos. Name of the person that owned it most of its life where we found it.

[@MrJeep75]

That needs a paint job, color match the green paint

[@konradweniger3141]

Not a fan of wrapped roof would liked a real welded steel roof.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Feel free to do that on your own car 👍

[@Ecosse57]

i can see why guys would just cut a section out of a later model steel-roof car to fit.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Usually they still don’t fit right and need work.