Building a SaaS and Indie Hacking is HARD as F**K!

[@z1n0u99]

dude I tend to not comment in videos but bro I'm literally in the same situation and I was feeling the same way and it helps a lot to know there are people going through what I'm going , thanks man

[@psibarpsi]

hey, i'm in the same boat as well and going through something of an imposter syndrome here. just curious to know how many years of building things/coding experience do you have? and how long have you been trying your indie hacking thing?

[@michaellaweh5084]

Very true.

[@mkmk-r6b]

Same boat right there

[@siroccomask]

Fellow hacker. You sound like a real one. I am there with you bro. If you or anyone else wants a follow from another indie hacker that is building stuff every day post your handle here and I will follow your journey. :) Having a community helps.

[@TegridyMadeGames]

Bro you can raise your MRR easily, just right-click inspect element and put in the MRR you wish you had.

[@EnokMadrid]

You're doing it! Proud of you. All that hard work will pay off

[@DorianDevelops]

I'm trying my best 😅

[@Fran-kc2gu]

Just remember to not put all eggs in one basket, always be ready for the next idea. I had build 3 SASS apps, for all of them I went full in for 6-12 months for each one I put 4-6 hours daily, even weekends, but all of them failed, no even reached 1k users and the apps were really good and functional. I have read from multiple people you have to fail multiple times to make the winning app, but it's hard the first time

[@aricwilliamsdeveloper]

NICE!

[@mkmk-r6b]

That's my mentality. I consider everyday of work as a victory. I think it's all about getting consistent and focus on the journey. To me, "failure" on the indie hacker road is actually the opposite of a failure. I see it as a "checkpoint" in a videogame.

[@swish6143]

Very relatable. Also building a complex app with zero funding. Doing sales, webdesign, develop a one liner etc + actually building front and backend ist hard. Also did not manage to get sales before building, i am sticking to user interviews instead of selling. Can also relate to the isolation part, just sitting in front of screen with Claude alone. Also go for the co-working space. Good idea. Over learning...didnt know that was a thing but i totally feel that.

[@UnfriendlyStoic]

the key i think is focusing on a problem that people have, it don't gotta be super techy, just gotta be a solution to a problem many people have that they are willing to pay for .

[@sheasquatch]

Man, I can 100% relate to everything you're expressing, and super appreciate you sharing it with such openness and honesty. It really helps. Keep being real 🙏

[@romeorel1679]

Agree. It's so damn difficult to take all the responsibility and putting all of it into one person's brain.

[@mihailovojinovic4085]

Feeling the same way, feels somewhat comforting knowing we are not alone. Thanks Mr. Jonny Sins :D

[@JasonKT13]

I'm exactly in this very stage, 0$ MRR, grinding to get to MVP, overlearning. This hits home. Thanks for sharing.

[@xsw882]

id love to see you livestream trying to do this and possibly being a voice chat/screen sharing session with you in a community of like minded people while also trying to indie hack myself!

[@Dailyfiver]

I really know nothing about SaaS, but I am about to start a game studio from my bedroom after releasing my first game on steam (for free). I can absolutely relate to months/years of work with no income from the efforts lol. Hang in there man!

[@malcomgreen4747]

Hi Dourian, my product was released in 2019, and then i paused it to do a corporate job for 2 years, then was affected by the tech layoffs 2022. i got back to may product now its been 2 years and still no real profit yet but im at MRR 2k for month but i spend 2k a month on advertising 😅 basically making plus or minus couple dollars but im gaining users and i knew my product will succeed but its so hard and time consuming, so i want to say dont give up, buy the way this video is much better you talking straight with no stuttering thanks

[@mahmoudmousa2405]

Oh my god! Finally someone says it out loud!

[@aricwilliamsdeveloper]

Yea its a different mind shift going from software dev to indi hacker. Im in the same boat, working on my Saas. Things i have learned thats important is #1 distribution is most important… #2 build small features first to gain traction because its all about small bets…

[@santiagofep]

Im close to 5k MMR and the worst thing is giving support, it gets really hard to keep up and the revenue is not enough to hire someone qualified

[@weiSane]

Santiago you can hire me for cheap my man 🙏 how do I reach out ?

[@liorocks]

I'm in a same shoes like you, software engineer, who wants to become solopreneur, that's why I follow you here and twitter. Please don't stop grinding, because you're an inspiration and motivation for us (i'm sure there are many who would agree).

[@5tan65]

"bullshit apps that just feel like a feature from another app and go off making thousands of dollars" .... I felt that hahaha

[@24pfilms]

Man I hear you very clearly on all this…I have managed to create a relationship with a supplier that has greatly taken the weight off my shoulders. As a side note I also quite herb and alcohol and been on the Lion Diet and it has been transformative for a 64 year old guy.

[@paulholsters7932]

Whether it’s going to be worth it depends. I am creating a Saas to have more interesting portfolio and find a dev job. It’s a tool you can use for software testing, which means I can use it if I decided to go back to testing. So there is a chance somehow my endeavor will be worthwhile. But I am afraid it’s perfectly possible it basically is all for nothing.

[@dennisbabych]

I feel you. Sometimes I see how much effort people are putting into their SaaS and it's really great ideas but at the end of the day, they are getting nothing. In Indie Hacking case quantity is more important than quality. Unfortunatly. You have to ship 100 apps to build something truly valuable for the market even sometimes absolute b s ideas become successful. That drives me crazy. So, just create a system where you would be able to ship something new within a week and a tiny budget :) Anyway, good luck and love your content

[@bladefire]

coming from a corporate environment, this is so on point

[@dazealex]

Dude, I know people at FANG companies that have imposter syndrome. Most FANG folks constantly self-learn. If you have discipline, and want to get 'er done, you'll be successful.

[@GardenStateDigital]

the challenge is that there are people out there specializing in all of those skills yet you still gotta work hard and become foundationally competent at all of them as an owner.

[@Kyros-2024]

Serious question, do you test your code? As someone trying to get something off the ground I lean towards no, because you don’t know how long that thing will stick around or if it’s useful. And ultimately it slows down building speed. Curious your thoughts?

[@sanderlentink]

You're already answering your own question. As mentioned in the video, we should test if there is demand for the product before actually building it. So writing tested code is on the exact opposite end of the spectrum of where we want to be. However, I do over engineering by creating microservices instead of monoliths, because it makes components that were created quick and dirty easier to upgrade to a higher level later, as well as to reuse the. So no super clean code, but do have a solid infra (k8s).

[@dnlbellfield]

I appreciate the honesty. Indie hacking looks hard af

[@victors8718]

Thanks for sharing man, I think what you are going thru is very normal for indie hacking

[@agentDueDiligence]

Hey Dorian! This was quite interesting for me to watch... I am doing what you are doing, just that I am going from a finance background to a developer's day-job. If you need anything or want to exchange ideas on the not-so-technical side of things, let me know! Always open for exchanging experiences.

[@hoangtran-ek8mn]

Same feeling. Thanks for speaking that out 😁

[@motlalepula_s01]

yho sana. This is what am doing currently, am self-taught exactly been a year now not really interested in a job but to create my own...It's tutorial after tutorial

[@VanGerro]

If you were to quit your job again, would you consider decrease the hours instead and do indie hacking on the side, so you still have a stable income ?

[@melindagolden1258]

I relate to this so much right now 😭

[@no-wai]

Feels like you should listen to the spice girls

[@eliastechtalk]

Hey! Keep on grinding bro. Have you ever thought about becoming a self employed consultant? that way you could work remotely but still make a decent amount of money.

[@UnfriendlyStoic]

what tech stack are you using for your MVP?

[@0x007A]

PHP and Laravel were mentioned.

[@UnfriendlyStoic]

@@0x007A o yea , thanks bro,

[@itzhexen0]

You know what's hard getting AI to do everyone's job. So they can live their new non-digital lives of being broke and homeless because they don't know how to do anything else.

[@IJH-Music]

Accidentally? No. If you deliberately throw a ball (even without the intent of scoring) and you score, it's not accident nor is it luck.

[@enic-ma]

You forgot the father hut!

[@intergaming8319]

So you gonna go back to the 9-5? Sounds like the definition of insanity.

[@renanrodrigues671]

I can relate to everything that was said

[@thuglifeinventor]

I dont know what indie hacker means but, same story, except i dont know testing and all that sh*t, just manually testing it just for the prototype, and i cant even work as long hours as others. I just code 2-5 hours not consistently . It just sucks and i am ranting here too. Call me a crybaby but having ADHD and growing up in a shitty critics circle is what i love to rant about ...

[@zacharynickerson3412]

"I'm skipping a lot of the steps - like validating the idea before coding".... sigh ... I've learned not to do this the hard way

[@ib5316]

Man, if you feel better building quality software for another company, day to day, and you have time left for your hobby & family... Maybe that's all you need? Maybe being a millionaire/billionaire is not the definition of success in life for you?

[@AndrewRusinas]

What's your SaaS?

[@realsemig]

2 months building without income? Try 6 months. Of course I didn't spent 6 months just building, but research, networking, looking for customers etc...

[@alwayzsmarter]

Same

[@michals.2604]

Your borther Johnny's been doing great in the p(c)orn industry. Have you thought about following his steps?