Building the First Space Docks!

[@johndorber6877]

I really hope that you guys succed. You deserve it and the human race needs people like you and Elon Musk to help us to progress.

[@aienthusiast618]

pretty real

[@rjung_ch]

If I was 45 years younger, I'd jump on the opportunity to participate.

[@darrellwaggerby]

I think we should anyway

[@darrellwaggerby]

I suggest you ask the older members of society if they would like to retire helping build our future place in space. We will give our retirement and continue working to ensure the next generation has a foothold in the future

[@barriewright2857]

Same here as well I am 63 next year to old.

[@danielc9312]

If that were the case, the project would lack those years of experience

[@10aDowningStreet]

They've mostly done nothing but enrich themselves then berate all subsequent generations whose futures they cannibalised for their two 5 bedroomed summer and winter homes. Highly doubt many boomers are going to change their ways at this point@@darrellwaggerby

[@edl617]

I am 70 and I would go in a heartbeat

[@Driftwood-Cove]

Starship will absolutely enable grand efforts like this.

[@Djfmdotcom]

💯 if we can survive this present insanity as a species, we have such a remarkable future ahead of us!

[@bidav2114]

Starship starship starship!!! Do you guys ever get tired? How many metal is on earth that you want to export to space

[@Driftwood-Cove]

@@bidav2114 Yes, take all the metal on Earth and turn it into Starships. When we're done we can convert Mars into Starships too.

[@aienthusiast618]

@@Driftwood-Cove make solar system starship then off for alpha centauri

[@scottwooldridge8946]

​@bidav2114 there's plenty of metal in space.

[@monkeynomics8995]

This paradigm shift is within our grasp, I want to work on the docks too. I'm talking about 18 hr shifts. Also putting SKIN in the game. LCM99

[@isaackellogg3493]

My company 4M will be building shipyards in about ten to twelve years. Hit up our HR at that time.

[@rolandplouchard3294]

GREAT AND MESMERIZING VIDEO, making the French Sci-Fi writer that I am dream! 🙂

[@tg614]

Looking forward to where you go from here all things need a beginning....

[@roberttindale9012]

That they do!

[@ChristSimd]

I fervently hope this really happens sooner than later !

[@roberttindale9012]

So do I. ;^)

[@cnewtonc]

Gateway Spaceport your idea ROCKS !!! We wish you the very best for the future.

[@DavidS-bm2st]

Its an Idea, and thats all. Its not going anywhere.

[@hextoken]

Great intro :) lets go to space!

[@kangarooninja2594]

I lost hope that I'd ever get to see real space exploration when I was about 12 and realized the lofty promises of going back to the moon and on to Mars were just more government promises they never intend to keep. But now it seems like we have a real chance. I'm actually starting to believe again.

[@DistracticusPrime]

These are really beautiful designs, and inspiring messages. What goes on inside the station? I think all that's missing is the commercial incentive.

[@pauldunlop1660]

Inspiring!

[@robinhodson9890]

It would be a lot more efficent to build in Lunar orbit, and transport the results elsewhere.

[@gordon1201]

As an engineer I'm very aware of stack up of tolerances. How does the ring machine ensure that the two ends of the ring meet? It's such a huge scale. How do you account for thermal expansion and general misalignment of panels? Over that distance you could be quite a few centimeters or even meters off

[@recycle320]

Yesssss so happy

[@barriewright2857]

Another fifty years to go, we will see a space port before the end of this century. if you're at school know and hoping to go to university later put this on your list to do.

[@donovanliezert774]

Don’t get my hopes up. When you get larger, try to get people who can’t afford all the schooling, teach them specifically your machines. You will have an endless supply of people who, otherwise, would never get a chance. This is a dream to a lot of people like me.

[@TheGatewaySpaceport]

It is a dream to all of us at Offworld Industries too. But when the time is right, dreams can become reality. We went to the Moon when enough people wanted that dream to happen and the technology was there. We are showing you, and the world, that the technology to build large rotating space stations is here. It can be done now. So, who will build it? Why not us? This generation. It's time has come.

[@donovanliezert774]

@@TheGatewaySpaceport thats the hope. I was super excited to find you guys. I just hope i can gain the experience before yall get to far along. Waking up and working on a station. Well words cant describe it for me.

[@mattsparling9843]

@Gateway Spaceport LLC. I really hope you are right and this comes to fruition. However: This channel has suddenly skewed from what they want to achieve to what SpaceX can, and is doing, coupled with flashy footage from the Star Trek franchise . What are the developments at Gateway Spaceport LLC , or are you still seeking funding?

[@donbrown69]

SpaceX (or someone else) bringing the mass to orbit cost down has always been the keystone for making anything like this a success. They also happen to be making strides in the change of construction which will have carry over effects.

[@mattsparling9843]

@@donbrown69 Oh I agree but, its been months since this accounts last post and rather in showing us their progress ( if any) they are instead highlighting the achievements of others.

[@mrsuper7484]

@@mattsparling9843 Most of what they will have done is technical engineering/ maths. The intricacies of designing a fully functioning station is too much from a manufacturing/ development perspective, for the relatively small team that is working on solutions. In its current form, I see the project as a publicly funded thought experiment that is aiming to be ahead of the curve when the space industry matures. That or wait until it matures enough that someone is willing to invest big bucks into making this project happen.

[@xavierlumley7997]

Hey, they are keeping the ball in the air and that is all the counts ,eyes on the prize

[@stargazer-elite]

I think that they are mentioning other companies like SpaceX because in their first video, they already mentioned that they plan on working with companies like that as they already have the resources and they already have the technology and other reasons I think it’s also just to get people more aware of where this project is going and getting more people on their side and funding them by showing the average population that some of this tech is already available and others in the works. Perhaps it will make the impression that it’s not so far away in the future and then we can actually make it not so far away in the future.

[@ProtectMyLiberty]

If we could find a way to stop fighting each other, we could spend a trillion dollars a year on this, just imagine what we could do.

[@danielsmyth189]

why are we set off fighting each other is it because various groups of people are good people that believe in altruism or are they child rapists that want a fresh load of victims regularly .are we not being divided and therefore conquered.

[@orbitia662]

unfortunately it's not in any political party's agenda ...

[@user-sz5slm]

Please tell us about your pros and cons compared to the Pioneer and Voyager space stations

[@bozhijak]

I died with the Galaxy Quest clip. Thank you!!

[@KmonCentz]

Right?!?! Whole thing... hysterical!!

[@BrianHaddad]

It's the best Star Trek movie ever made! lol Such a great movie.

[@buford7143]

The need for advanced logistics will be crucial to the success of this endeavor. Ground based operations are already in place for large mega projects, launch based infrastructure is rapidly coming of age, the systems you are developing will need its own unique qualities to complete the mission ahead, and resupply is, as of yet, to be tested for large scale provision. All of these systems will have to operate seamlessly to be successful. Hope your business model is fruitful and profitable.

[@electronicsworkbench]

R.I.P. - Kirsty

[@mt-qc2qh]

These guys are dreamers.... I LIKE THAT!

[@michaelmassetti3126]

It's about time... so cool.. and yes I follow spacex...nasa etc... I am an engineer by trade... mechanical electronics computer builder and general space enthusiasts since 1960..."never give up never surrender " for real.

[@zombiekid2424]

I wounder how well cold welding could be used in outer space rather then using heat, I believe this method would be easier and more efficient.

[@nicholasmaude6906]

You wouldn't want to use 1/4 impulse-power in space-dock as that is 6.25% of light-speed.

[@kyliedesire7425]

going out majestically from the space dock far enough to engage slipstream drive or just quantum dispersion field based engines? Seems delicious! Gimme money i do the ship from scratch!!!

[@mattgillard8253]

Good luck !

[@jasonmcharris7243]

Let's get the tools ready and sheet metals in production

[@mrtrek2117]

Imagine if the Wright brothers could have witnessed the jumbo Jet landing, or even the massive A380!

[@robinhodson9890]

Orville Wright was alive at the same time as the first men to walk on the moon, and the inventors of the jet engine and radar.

[@mrtrek2117]

@@robinhodson9890 Really, Orville Wright died in 1948 and the first moon landing in which men walked on the moon was in 1969.

[@edumaker-alexgibson]

@@mrtrek2117 Neil Armstrong's date of birth: 5 August 1930

[@mrtrek2117]

@@edumaker-alexgibson Not sure what the point is of stating when Armstrong was born but he didn't walk on the moon until 1969, 21 years after Orville Wright died.

[@edumaker-alexgibson]

@@mrtrek2117 OK, I will be more explicit: In the spirit of your original point, which we both liked, @robinhodson9890 said "Orville Wright was alive at the same time as the first men to walk on the moon", to which your 'Really' seemed incredulous. You point out that Orville Wright died before the moon landings - which is of course correct - but that wasn't what had been pointed out - just that their lifetimes overlapped. Neil Armstrong was born in 1930 and could have met Orville Wright up until he was 18. Similarly, Orville Wright did not see the moon landings or the A380, but at the time of his death the first commercial jet liner, the De Havilland Comet, was in development.

[@mikecammarano7901]

Yeah, it'll buff out!

[@apocraphontripp4728]

The military application of that air bus production line would be sick. NGADs built in a day with this type assembly line and 3d metal, poly and plastic printing. Have an AI run the whole show, give it a snazzy name like skynet and what could possibly go wrong.

[@roberttindale9012]

" I could either watch it happen or be a part of it.". Elon Musk. So become a Gateway Member, and be part of the crew. I did, and it was easy. There is free Gateway Membership, if you want it. So, be a part of it!

[@sfsastro8697]

Is there an age limit??

[@sfsastro8697]

@@Panj0 what cgi? I want some proof that they uses cgi.

[@sfsastro8697]

@@Panj0 if it's cgi why waste billions of dollar? A monkey deserves that brain than you.

[@sfsastro8697]

@@Panj0 the intro is from the star trek

[@sfsastro8697]

​@@Panj0the iSS footage is real, the SpaceX capsule docking with the iSS is real

[@arcadealchemist]

the trick to building structures in space is building an inflatable Carbon weave tube structure with netting between each and using a Form of crystalization gel on the weave till it creates a coocoon which can be presurized with atmosphear once payloads can deploy in space and can be connected to gether then you can so some really big time shit in space. mega stuctures can be assembled peace by peace once you have a way to buuld ships in space and locate raw materials maybe from the moon you can eventually colonization becomes easier. asembling a stucture in segments wouldn't be a quick as Fabric and sealant foam. but having the strength of the webbing fabric needs to be able to deal with presure and also to install piping internally to keep feeding layers to thinken and harden the outter wall, eventually you can reinforce it with plating the major problem is not tilting the structure's orbit because it would still require earth's gravity to maintain a stable orbit. as all bodies in space are constantly moving

[@MichaelDeeringMHC]

My job? Asteroid mining.

[@LG-qz8om]

While Space Tourism or Space Hotels are fine a more functional use of a Dual-Ring Station is as a planetary Cycler. With the rings being matched to the gravity of Earth and its destination (such as Mars). In this way pioneers can be acclimated to their destination long before they get there.

[@LG-qz8om]

As thos fits in more to Elon's Mars colonization plans you would gain more support from an organization already intending human interplanetary transfers. A Ring is ultimately the ONLY solution to interplanetary travel.

[@metaphysicalArtist]

I have a bold proposal for your engineering think tank: let's build a long and continuous space station with a minor angle change, inspired by the Italian Cellentani Pasta design extruder. Imagine a 300m spinning "Cellentani" shape station with two Sargon machines on either end, capable of producing and assembling different modules and components. This way, we can create the first 1 km spinning citytown in space, with all the amenities and facilities we need. We can also add external modules for space docking, arms and special manufacturing research modules. As development grows, we can expand our project to build the first "Cellentani" Dyson ring around asteroids for material mining, or even around the moon or the Earth. This is a visionary idea that will revolutionize space exploration and colonization. Make a video breakdown to show how we can create, launch, build, supply, service and manpower a "Cellentani" 1km long citystation, a presentation to illustrate the concept.

[@jocknarn3225]

would certainly accelerate human expansion into the solar system. imagine a humungous spaceport dock 4 a fleet of vehicles

[@ephionis]

It all looks awesome, my childhood dream becoming true. But now I wonder, if we build entire clusters of fully sized space stations, they will work as moon / satellite. Just for safety measures: did anyone checked what will be influence for planetary climate ?

[@OverwoundGames]

if it turns out David Pares' warp drive actually works, and someone invests in that, you'll not only get your warp drive - you might not need SpaceX, either...

[@danielsmyth189]

if we can design a graphic and then create the graphic in a engineering programme we can build physical parts and assemble them so 'show us the money'.

[@JeffBrazeel-fe4wc]

We NEED Spacedock's to Construct Ships off Planet. As it's much Easier and Cheaper than Launching from the Surface. Not to mention the Sacrifices that some have made to progress to this point. And to continue into the Future. I watched the Apollo II Moon Landing, and was 5 years old at the time, I'm Loving this New push into Space that is happening now! Space-X is at the Forefront right now, and it's Fantastic to see the Private Sector jumping Full Throttle into the Undiscovered Country of the Future! NO AI like Hal from 2001 A Space Odessy!!!! BAD IDEA, VERY BAD!!!!!

[@CapitalWheeler]

Could a ship launch from the outside ring of a rotating station? I think ships should dock at the center then be moved to the outside. Don't forget one of the biggest reasons for the station is access to zero gravity. Living facilities can be on the outside but zero-G research and manufacturing shouldn't be an after thought. Docking at the stationary zero-G center is obvious but other ship operations may benefit from gravity.

[@ShawnBoike]

We need you to make a Presidential Peace Palace before April 3, 2033. Lead by USAF-USSF (US).😉

[@frankmueller2781]

Gateway should start smaller with something plain that generates revenue: An orbital fuel depot capable of receiving or dispensing fuel of multiple types to multiple ship/rocket systems. Make THAT work and then go bigger in stages to work yourself up to a rotating space station/dock.

[@joestewart6027]

Keep dreaming big! It's big dreamers like Elon or you guys that keep dreaming and following their dreams will get us there!

[@TheWadetube]

500 people at 200 pounds per person would be 100,000 pounds of cargo, plus luggage and add food and water and you will max out your capacity. There really is not room for that many people. 4 floors at 100 people each would be packing them in like sardines. You would have about 500 square feet of useable space on each floor. Then there is the weight of all those seats. I think that a hop to orbit would be doable but not to mars or the moon with over 400 people. Then you have to have enough space to house them all. You are the only company thinking bigger is better like I am so I hope we both succeed.

Just do it.

[@lenwhatever4187]

The starship is not the 747 of space, merely the DC3...

[@3dtexan890]

They still have never show how the ring gets closed up. I guess that has yet to be engineered.

[@Deckers2006]

Thing is, you might as well build it on Earth and take off for outer space from here. Otherwise it won't be such a hot Space traveling machine will it?.

[@10aDowningStreet]

Taken many decades to develop all that stuff for ship building, it's simply not going to be adapted to function in zero g without decades more testing, tweaking and in some cases having to go completely back to the drawing board.

[@joejohnson6321]

Man’s greatest chance of moving on from this planet and solar system starts with AI & robotic technology. It will be quicker and safer.

[@DomesticatedDemon]

"or anything else that might require that shape" (death star)

[@donotcare330]

They are correct. In order to travel to another planet you do need to have a space port in SPACE that constructs that ship IN space. not on the ground. and be able to launch it FROM above the earth.

[@DeanCyrus]

If I had £100B I would definitely invest

[@林文賓-p5s]

它會實現的，它不是夢想，因為我已經在太空站裡，好奇地從螢幕中，尋找自己的藍色星球。我的太空站沒有很複雜，形狀像保特瓶，非常寬敞又明亮，操作簡單，唯一的麻煩，就是只有自己一個人，其他人呢？

[@roberttindale9012]

别担心，等我有时间了。我会过来见你。 Bié dānxīn, děng wǒ yǒu shíjiānle. Wǒ huì guòlái jiàn nǐ.

[@gloamishvonsatyrburg4635]

I've been following you guys since the beginning and I promise you I will either work with you or for you next chance you guys open for investments I have to get another email so I can join the effort. I work in heavy manufacturing automotive, and have exactly the skill set you will need for this kind of project.

[@suchdevelopments]

😁🌏How are you on this sunny evening in Lismore, NSW? I support you.

[@rjung_ch]

Is welding in space easier than on earth, there may be no need to use argon or CO2 in the process?

[@DistracticusPrime]

I hope half a dozen welders answer here. I'm curious. I know we have already done some vacuum welding, i.e. the F-14 wing box. I was told that building the large vacuum chamber was more of a challenge than building the part.

[@tepidtuna7450]

I'm an amateur welder so take my answer with a grain of salt. If using arc welding in space the vacuum will negate the need for inert gases, so in zero G there is no gravity to steady the weld pool. Lower settings may help, and spatter needs to be collected in space or it becomes micro space junk. My guess is that laser welding or similar would be used for panels, and friction stir welding could be used for certain connections.

[@DistracticusPrime]

@@tepidtuna7450 Thanks, that helps. I've been wondering if they could make use of cold welding? For example, that story about a capsule hatch that got stuck because the super cold molecules actually bonded two parts together. Very tidy, much less energy required, but I've no idea how to control the process.

[@rjung_ch]

@@tepidtuna7450 great answer, think that they either have already figured it out or they soon will have enough data to definitively know. The splatter turning into micro projectiles does create a problem that is gt zero. So that could be a future danger, that they must be aware of.

[@monkeynomics8995]

Hold my beer..

[@snowwolvesproductions]

Galaxy class (Star Trek) is in the Next Generation, NOT TOS and it's movies. TOS was "Constitution class". Not sure what the refits were (NCC 1701A), probably still Constitution class.

[@manivannana3317]

Stop funding warships, start funding Starships

[@TomMannis]

Cool. But what happens when a piece of space junk slams through your walls at 18,000 mph?

[@TheGatewaySpaceport]

The entire station is covered in Whipple shield, just like the ISS. If a piece is too big for the station shielding to handle, we maneuver out of the way, just like the ISS does.

[@dema]

747 was actually made for the airforce competition for a new cargo transport aircraft, ultimately the 747 lost the competition to C5 galaxy, so boeing decided to sell the aircraft commercially.

[@TheGatewaySpaceport]

According to multiple sources, the idea came from Pan Am CEO Juan Tripp who wanted a double-decker aircraft like you have on passenger trains with two levels. Boeing came back to him with the first wide-body design. They also gave it a little hump so there was also an upstairs too. Tripp ordered some and the rest is history.

[@stefankarskanov9269]

I am 26 and I will go :)

[@rev2632]

Well a nice vid, but before the wrath of Star Trek comes upon you... the starship shown was a Constitution class... not a Galaxy

[@andremartel828]

Bad script. 😅

[@DadJeff-jo7pm]

All True NCC 1701 is the Constitution Class 3 Generations/Iterations Prior to NCC 1701-D Galaxy Class used/pictured in Next Generation.

[@intellectualcat4000]

You need asteroid iron for this station. It is impossible to lift such an amount of iron from the surface of the Earth.

[@franklee9127]

Why not start building in orbit around the moon where you could mine material from the moon? Might have to build the first one with material from earth but after that mining the moon might be better

[@intellectualcat4000]

@@franklee9127 Yeah, that's a possibility.

[@grafton3073]

👍🏼👍🏼😎

[@maxxflyer]

any updates?

[@Parascuba]

where can i send my application for job?

[@unkawill7077]

Damn I was born 40 years too early.

[@johndorber6877]

I know how you feel. I watched the Apollo Moon landing when I was a boy and felt for sure that we would be on Mars by now. I hope to see a permanent large scale presence outside of Earth in my lifetime.

[@cfinley9936]

I just need to find out how to invest.

[@Yamototamto]

Sp how's that construction going?

[@deeremeyer1749]

The Ocean Gate of space.

[@WaterPickle]

you dont know wtf your talking about shut your mouth

[@marlonelrod1514]

you and space x should be working together

[@jasonmcharris7243]

I want a job build the future

[@Thomas-y5m]

Why not build a satelite recycling program in space with your developmental program. Start generating money faster with this idea. Do some kind of research to get your company to generate money fast.

[@kyliedesire7425]

Why you dont use A.I. to predict best shape and construction for space station and why not to make artificial gravity, tractor beams and print all automatically in space from big 3d printer. Everything is there to do it now and I know how.

[@kyliedesire7425]

I forgot to add. So called tractor beams like in Star Trek TNG or Strange New Worlds are possible. At least I know how to do it.

[@danielsee1]

What powers all this?

[@zephyr9673]

Yeah, i cannot stop thinking about starship refuelling. If starships can dock, why wouldn't you dock 8 of them together, use the fuel tanks as habitats, like Skylab, and sls Skylab 2 concept. You have a lunar cycler. Take any animation of parallel refuelling, thats two starships now put tank and hatches 90 degrees dock 2 more then, dock four, now take the tail dock animations dock two docked 4s together, thats 8, each with more space than the ISS best approach to a lunar cycler is 3 of them. Same with landing and parking starships on the moon, or as stations and fuel depots in low lunar orbit. You don't need an orbital dock yard, but, if you wanted some space debris shielding, and to add an external hull and scaffolding to a group of starships, it may make it easier. The true opportunity, is getting a bus fare price ticket to orbit, 2 or 300 dollars, not everyone will go to the moon, but, an affordable ticket to orbit, thats space tourism, do it safe, people will pay for that veiw. People will work for it. But hotel accommodation on cyclers lunar stations and bases, that'll come.

[@rigelkent8401]

Second the first constuction rig is built it will;l build all the rest

[@SeanLomaxVIRTUOSO-WHISTLER]

AFDM-6

[@Rene046]

beatyfull future... but only for the smartest, fittest, and young people. Elon Will be interested, just show him some long future plans... both can make billions in and for a long long time. but don't forget having all and everything for a long time, don't forget those keeping that way..

[@MIGUEL2005LIMA]

Mister Saavik? "MISTER"?

[@admiralmarciniak1035]

You kept saying galaxy-class when you were showing us a constitution-class

[@FLAME4564]

the only reason why they said Galaxy class cuz of of comparing the advanced tech the Galaxy class had and what it would take to build our own duplicate tech to that of the Galaxy class in future years but however building Duplicate tech to that of the TMP consitution class in other years was most likely a reachable possability if im not mistaken.

[@Dcassimatis]

Just for the record,... the reason they can build the Enterprise on earth, and then lift into orbit, is do to something know as a Warp Field or Gravity Engine,.... a Warp Field or Gravity Engine can either be Full -On or Fractionaly-On,.... Fractionaly-On allows you lift things like a Starship, from a shipyard, into orbit from a terrestrial surface,... and that is why when the new franchize shows rocket thrusters being used to lift Enterprise into orbit it makes J.J. Abrams look out of touch with that universe.

[@alvermillioncranky8360]

This is needed badly, just to get some of us off the planet.

[@rob_over_9000]

Nothing like paying $60/yr for the opportunity to be an employee on a space station that doesn’t exist outside of cheesy renders 😂 wonder what this guy takes for a salary out of that vaporware payment before this thing goes belly up

[@izquier36-ml9fv]

so previous generations chose not to go space and live forever

[@carlosbl34]

Buenisísismo (ale, traducir eso)

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

Ever seen Babylon 5??

[@orbitia662]

when do are you starting money collection please ?

[@MsKinnara]

In reality Most people watching this video WONT even be alive by the time they actually start building any of these huge space stations. Oh yes they talk all about what they are gonna do and that they have the ability and technology to build them BUT so far let most things it's just all talk no action. So by the time they ever start building everyone watching now will have died from old age.

[@DistracticusPrime]

I feel like that all the time. Then, just when I wasn't looking, some guy invented reusable boosters and lowered the cost of space cargo.

[@stargazer-elite]

So you’re denying the extreme progress we’ve been making in space technology, the timeframe that this company Gateway spaceport says is reasonable, but only with proper funding

[@hildablanco1591]

And with the technology we have today we could not save the small sub that imploded near the titanic that killed 4 men and NASA thinks space travel is possible we need Alien technology

[@bencowles2105]

building large starships to traves the solar system and beyond is completely possible with current technology. starship will be the heavy lifter which is its best function. building large ships for colonization is more efficient than using starship. it is just simple math. if America does not take advantage of this and do this then others will and will beat America to the punch. catch up or be left behind is the moto of the day. time to step up or sit down and get out of the way.

[@sebastianjarvie543]

We don’t live in Star Wars 😂 👇

[@TheGatewaySpaceport]

Not yet

[@valandilelfstone]

Always there seems to be a lot of talk and nothing else space stations star ships all dreams and talk when is the talk going to stop and action started, how many decades since man set foot on the moon and how far have we come since then, Space X are awesome for what they have done is such short time, they have totally put NASA to shame, we need more Space X companies and less NASA incompetence

[@doc2112]

Dream worth of working for but please be more realistic, because if you omit deal breakers, your dream is not realistic. If you admit to need this and that, then those things will be invented, although it may require more people to work on various challenges. Also please try to bit more accurate, in ISS etc. reference. All major space contributors like ESA in not 'national' and commercial space business is 'born global'.

[@jasonmcharris7243]

Let's get building no. Wasting time

[@garyc1384]

THIS IS A TOTAL SCAM