Building Vs. Inventing: The Problem With Studios

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[@MakeStuffStudios]

Heads up: No, this is not the Last Jedi video. It's a cool little video I wanted to put out while we finish up the Last Jedi video. You'll know when it's the Last Jedi video when the video is one billion hours long and, like, wayyyy too dramatic :D

[@Thesaura]

I loved it anyway, thanks! Eager to see if/how the themes explored in this video are mentioned in the next one, and don't worry, I'm all about the drama :D

[@BonfirePlease]

I found you on Reddit. Youre awesome. My fav movie Blade Runner is building on the genre. But inventive in its concept I think

[@MakeStuffStudios]

@@BonfirePlease Thanks!! And for sure - Blade Runner feels like peak scifi + noir, but also totally invented the cyberpunk aesthetic.

[@NicholasKross]

Couldn't ask for more. Thank you for this vid!

[@MrSeals1000]

The thumb nail made me think that maybe it was TLJ video... but then I saw the run time, so nope, definitely not that. This is just something else for me to enjoy :3

[@CaptainMacTavishSoap]

"Nine of the top ten highest grossing films of all time are original films." 1. "Gone with the Wind" is adapted from a book. 3. There were about ten films that came out about the Titanic before James Cameron's film. Cameron even straight up stole shots from those other films. 5. "The Sound of Music" is adapted from a musical. 7. "The Ten Commandments" is obviously not the first time the story of Moses was told. 8. "Doctor Zhivago" is adapted from a book. 9. "Jaws" is adapted from a book. The idea that Hollywood was original and inventive before 2008 is a myth. Hollywood always relied on IPs and adaptations from previous sources. The only thing that has changed is the type and magnitude of IP adaptations. I don't think the inventive vs building point really shines a light on the actual problem with remakes and sequels. It's not a problem with "inventive vs building" but "making choices that are for the film itself vs making choices that are for the IP."

[@MediumDSpeaks]

You know it's a Make Stuff video when there's a VHS pause effect at the beginning

[@samwallaceart288]

Medium D Speaks NAH that’s par for the course on KZbin’s hipster ghetto.

[@JustSoYouKnow66]

Man shouldnt you have like 5 million+ subcribers

[@SmokeyLaBear]

Annihilation (2018) is one of my favorite films because it's so inventive and almost completely shrugs off the studios' formulas.

[@pazzrihen]

Was about to say that this is my favorite video of yours but shit they're all so good.

[@Ava-xg3sl]

I got a notification on my phone from KZbin and I was like eh I’m not in the mood, but then I saw who it was and was like never mind it’s make stuff this dude has amazing stuff

[@Icewaved2]

Hey man, just found your channel. It's amazing. Every video is beautifully written and edited, and I'm positive it's going to be huge. Just a thank you and a positive plea to keep...well, making stuff.

[@Stoneworks]

I'll be able to say I was here before you got huge

[@remylebae3395]

This was an excellent video. The editing, the humor, and the content itself, all great! Def deserves more views!

[@genessab]

Hi you are my favorite okay bye

[@dikshitahaloi7161]

It reminded me of the movie "The Grand Budapest Hotel".

[@okhadraws]

Just few hours ago, I was driving pass an Imax movie theater in our neighborhood and thought "Nothing to see here. And it goes on for months, even years and will continue until big studios risk to fund new original projects." And then I saw your video. I guess this thought must be already in the collective unconscious.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Nobody really wants to see original stuff, though. It's been proven over and over again that the general audience just despises originality with all their soul. They try just to get even a little bit original, it flops horribly.

[@JoanieDoeShadow]

5:54 You're counting Gone With The Wind, Dr. Zhivago, Titanic, & Ten Commandments as "original" films! The first two are based on novels. Titanic was based on a historical event that had multiple films based on it already, I think that's a pretty grey area to call it "original" especially if you've seen some of those earlier films. Ten Commandments is also a pretty murky area in the pool of original films. You're thoughts on the spectrum of creating & building was great. However, when half of the movies you use to show the profitability of original films are also cases for book adaptations and less then wholly original films you end up making the case for why studios haven't been hurting by staying closer to the build & middle of the spectrum.

[@connorhalleck2895]

Came back to rewatch this. This video rocks.

[@Dropbomb28]

Keep up the great work man! Still watching and still loving YOUR creative look on film. Can't wait for more!

[@lunar_star566]

Just found this channel and I have been binge watching all of your videos!

[@josephreidhead1639]

This is the 2nd video of yours I have watched and really enjoyed. You deserve a bigger audience.

[@BreakingBanter]

THIS IS SO GOOD DUDE

[@AliceDiableaux]

My favorite film for years is Wristcutters: A Love Story, which is I think completely on the 'inventing' side of the spectrum. It's about a guy who commits suicide and then enters an afterlife for only people who have committed suicide, where everything is exactly the same as the normal world, except just slightly worse in every way. Such an inventive and wholly original premise, never encountered anything like it. And looking at my folder of my personal top movies they're actually all heavily on the inventing side: Annihilation, Snowpiercer, Doctor Strange (yes this builds on superhero movies for sure, but it's one of the few superhero movies I actually like because it's NOT just 'OP dudes punching each other real hard' but something different than that), Room, the Beach, the Shawshank Redemption (of course), Looper, the Truman Show, Ex Machina, Eternal Sunshine. Oh! Mad Max Fury Road is on there, so that builds, although I haven't seen any other Mad Max movies, so for me the premise was new.

[@CONACINE]

Amazing

[@HashbrownMashup]

That... was the first I heard of Donald Glover doing a Deadpool cartoon. and FX killed it.

[@naenoart]

Aw, I really love this video! So insightful! Makes me look forward to the "new" generation of movie makers that's about to take over. :')

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Yeah, that's an inevitability. History will repeat itself. The younger millennials and older Generation Z will have their George Lucases and Steven Spielbergs and so on and so forth probably within the next decade or so.

[@theaoldfield]

Dude it’s 1 a.m. and I’ve only seen two of your videos but I think I’m in love with you

[@TellMeMoreYT]

Blaaargh. I just love your videos. So much. Thank you. As soon as I'm not unemployed and actually have money to spare I'll be straight on that Patreon backers list

[@LogosSteve]

Excellent video.

[@SapLow]

awesome video! Now I want to go "Make Stuff!"

[@JoanieDoeShadow]

Also based on your standards of placing all of Tarintion's work in the middle category of Reverent/Irreverent "Star Wars" (A New Hope) also belongs in that category, and it had more studio interference then your video would indicate. However as a franchise it did grow out of that category and then TLJ slid it closer to that line as Johnson revisited some of the film makers that had inspired George Lucas.

[@ariholder4762]

Really loved the video man

[@itschristaleeann]

Sorry To Bother You was an amazing theatrical experience and feast for the eyes. Definitely one of my favorites of the year. 😃 But you’re right. All the movies are good. You nailed it. 😉

[@dsatt57]

Preach it brother.

[@WitherGirlGaming]

Damn son you're making content I'd expect from a channel well into the millions by subs. Only 40k?! You deserve way more. (remember me when you're famous!)

[@yaumelepire6310]

Interesting perspective!

[@SourFrog42]

Really good video

[@beagle4932]

My fav build/invent film? The Castle. It is entirely inventing for a film, I have never seen anything like it. But it's building is something special. It doesn't build on film, but on culture. The Castle is able to build on the culture of the time, and that was arguably the only reason it succeeded as a film. Greetings from Australia btw.

[@MakeStuffStudios]

Deep cut - love it!!

[@small_creature]

Ahhhhh I love your videos keep up the great work

[@MakeStuffStudios]

Thanks!!

[@ethanhudson2009]

Basically, you can't keep building straight up without expanding (inventing) the base.

[@graceisNERD]

Wow, the editing on this video is incredible! Very well done!

[@Kestas_X]

I almost didn't watch it because of pre-assumptions based in für thumbnail but I'm very happy not having to deal with the war on Star Wars VII for at least one time. Thank you! Honestly.

[@TheAtZShow]

4:40 🔄

[@gkqmtk]

legends supporting legends

[@johndonis5206]

* Best youtuber ever posts new video.* Me: Nice.

[@disc0duck]

Criminally undersubscribed

[@IvanKleshnin]

Why do you need a crowd here? Are you missing a validation of your preferences, hamster?

[@mr_h831]

Did you know that marvel took a chance and made star wars comics before the first movie even came out? The first few issues were basically the same as the film, but they weren't sure either if the film would susceed, thus they started to do thier own thing.... and make thier own comics loosley based around episode 4.... thier star wars is widely different from lucas's in many ways, but the same in others as a result. If we are to go by your spectrum, I'd say that JJ falls in the inbetween with episode 7, and Rian basically falls on the... ugh, inventive side. (I honestly don't consider the last Jedi inventive, but rather destructive......it's tearing apart an already divided fanbase... which is sad indeed... but it's not all his fault, some, if not alot of the blame also falls on fans. Why can't we just ya know, get along? You like star wars, so do I. You like episode 8, I don't. So what? Move on to what we do like, or at least be civil about what we don't. Which I think is your point in your most recent video..... although there are so e aspects I disagree with for sure. ((such as you calling the director of episode 6 a "God" I get it was a joke, but I find it excessive.... and entirely untrue as well as unnecessary.)) but does it mean I hate you? No, I don't hate you. I might be little angry with you for not agreeing with me, but what can you do? If I was to stay angry it'd be pointless. I'd rather let you keep your opinion, and I'll keep mine. If you change yours eventually, cool, if not, that's your choice.) because it seems that Rian tried to dismantle what was previously established instead of building upon it, which I think is what made so many fans angry, I mean flaming mad. It's really not a necessity to be that angry, but some get that say. And once you get that way, it ain't easy to stop. If only some of the fan base would listen to Yoda when he said, _"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering."_ one of my favorite Yoda quotes, due to it's seeming real application. You can observe the effects of fear and anger, and hate, and realize, they only lead to suffering, to destruction. (a few others I like are these, "Away put your weapon, I mean you no harm!" "Yoda, you seek Yoda.". "When 900years old you reach, look as good, you will not." "Concentrate!!" "Mine mine mine!!" "Slimey?!? mud hole?!? My home this is!!" "you must unlearn, what you have learned." those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.)

[@yeahwowitsneil8334]

Damn that was nuancef

[@mr_h831]

"it'd be boring to like, stare at books." Lolololol

[@catioroforasterodeloeste4790]

this video is very subjective! I liked it.

[@cac_deadlyrang]

_MILLENNIUM FALCON_ DOES A HECKIN’ KULBIT

[@MediumDSpeaks]

1:11 Hey, that's my name! Thanks for calling me creative

[@lightspeedfilms5708]

This is great!

[@arthurfortes8398]

The Lord of Rings and Jurassic Park are based on novels, Toy Story and Star Wars are original, even if the first is inspired by other Pixar short.

[@VariTimo]

“You can’t keep building unless you keep inventing“ Enter: The Last Jedi....

[@timy9197]

An example of what happens when you force it with a franchise that was supposed to end a decade ago

[@BonfirePlease]

By being a total mess.

[@serbancapraru8559]

@@BonfirePlease At least it tried to give us some new shit. I'll take that over what TFA did any day.

[@BonfirePlease]

@@serbancapraru8559 I take a new movie rather than a sequel were the creators aren't working for it.

[@serbancapraru8559]

@@BonfirePlease Absolutely.

[@robertobuenafe]

*Wait, what is that movie by John Malkovich that's supposed to only be shown 100 years after?*

[@gusthewiseone3247]

The "force awakens " and the, "last Jedi" were not about building, but destroying. 😾

[@Happymali10]

BEcause of the recent sequel-trend and how many movies are how similar there's advice going around writer's forums/plattforms to not write up a story with a young female hero for some young adult adventure. Too. F**king. Worn. Out.

[@samwallaceart288]

Star Wars had to have been the poster-child for what you call “irreverent cinema” on the spectrum; the whole film is a hodge-podge remix and reinvention of familiar themes. And people ate that shit up.

[@timy9197]

That's pretty much most 70's cinema. You could say the same about taxi driver and the godfather. In fact, that's the recurring theme between all of the "film brats".

[@samwallaceart288]

That’s why I find this whole critical theory to be relatively useless. Every movie is built upon what came before, even subconsciously. You can alter the tradition, or preserve it verbatim, but it’s all in some way a successor to the past. In some ways, Quentin Tarantino is novel; in other ways, he’s the definition of derivative. Not a judgment, just a reflection of how “derivation vs novelty” are a criterion that can only simplify and over-generalize a work.

[@nataliesumner7097]

Can you PLEEEAAASE to something on Rocky Horror Picture show?!?!?

[@crunchysalmons]

Scott pilgrim vs the world is a greatly balanced inventive and building film

[@timy9197]

That's true of Edgar Wright movies in general

[@giascle]

Of the 9 highest-grossing movies you listed, 5 are based on existing properties though. Gone with the Wind, Doctor Zhivago, and Jaws were all best-selling books; The Sound of Music was a play that swept the Tonys; and the Ten Commandments was of course based on the Bible and wasn't even the first attempt at that story. No, they're not sequels, but they were still safe bets.

[@lilith42069]

I liked this video and got what it was saying. But I think the thesis statement is a very simplified and not-well-thought-out dichotomy. I don't think anything is truly "original". IMO there is no such thing as "originality" on a rudimentary level. It's not the idea of what happens that makes a creative work "original", it's how an individual's experiences inform their own creations. Because every individual on this planet who chooses to create something has, in some shape or manner, been influenced by someone or something. It's inescapable. Star Wars, for example, was heavily inspired by the Flash Gordon comics and Akira Kurosawa films. The Godfather takes an R-rated look at early 20th century gangster that it's almost like a precursor to "WHAT IF WE TOOK AN R-RATED LOOK AT THIS GENRE". In a nutshell: good films are kind-of gimmicks. Even stuff by Charlie Kaufman is influenced by basic postmodern ideas (That were already done in theatre and literature by the likes of Bertolt Brecht and Samuel Beckett) like, "WHAT IF... I WROTE A SCREENPLAY FOR A MOVIE THAT WAS ABOUT ME STRUGGLING TO MAKE A SCREENPLAY FOR A MOVIE?" Don't get me wrong: I love Adaptation. But again: I think you're really simplifying art in general into a simple seemingly objective "This works this doesn't, yada yada" rule.

[@timy9197]

You're way to caught up in semantics and you're missing the point. You don't have to agree with the choice of words to understand the context in which it is used. There's a reason why the word "inventive" is also mentioned.

[@lilith42069]

Let me put it this way: you know the phrase "Standing on the shoulders of giants?" The word "invent" rubs me the wrong way because things aren't just nothing and then become something because of some kind of eureka moment of a supposed genius. It takes years of gradually absorbing information and then put it in your blender of a mind that gets you to that point.

[@timy9197]

+Ian Paul that's what invention means. Everything that's every been considered an invention was formed the exact same way. You're just using the word wrong. And describing the technique doesn't make it easy. Plenty of people take in the exact same information and not half of them can make anything out of it. It takes creativity.

[@CompilerHack]

Kuhn vs Popper

[@StephenIsTrying]

I was thinking this was going to at least mention The Last Jedi but I'm glad it didn't. I'm in love with this channel. Continue to not sacrifice quality for quantity. An continue to not show your face in these videos. You hooked me in with the Hamilton video and you've had me ever since. Brilliant, sir. Absolutely brilliant.

[@MakeStuffStudios]

[Awkwardly hides upcoming Last Jedi vid that has lots of people showing their faces.] Thanks!

[@StephenIsTrying]

As long as you don't show your face, we're good! Keep the mystery alive!

[@MakeStuffStudios]

@@StephenIsTrying [Awkwardly hides video already on the channel that shows my face.] Will do!!

[@StephenIsTrying]

*Awkwardly can't rewatch all old videos now even though the content is too good*

[@sandraswoggs5907]

Another excellent video ~ still looking forward to the Last Jedi one!

[@The_Jovian]

Could we call blade runner reverent/irreverent?

[@MakeStuffStudios]

I definitely think so. It's such a throwback to classic noir in its structure/tone (plus, obviously, a lot of sci-fi concepts we'd seen a bit in films like 2001 and Alien), but it also pretty much invented the entire cyberpunk aesthetic and achieved a level of believability and immersion that was never really seen in sci-fi before that.

[@koonowax2241]

I love "Scott Pilgrim vs the World" but I am not sure where is it on this spectrum? Mostly because it is a movie adaptation of the comics, influanced by video games but as a film is quite inventive and clever in how it use all this things it takes from this mediums. Probably somewhere near John Wick because it also plays with its genre.

[@MakeStuffStudios]

Adaptations are definitely tricky to pin on the spectrum. But there's a lot of invention needed to adapt something between mediums, especially with Scott Pilgrim. I think that film definitely creates a crazy new experience, even when compared to the comic. There's not really anything like it. So dang good.

[@eoincampbell1584]

The more I learn about cinema history and filmmaking in general the more I do not understand a single choice any studio makes like seriously HOW do they keep repeating the same mistakes mover and over and over?

[@MakeStuffStudios]

Prolly doesn't help that there are more studio executives that come from appliance companies than ones that come from actual filmmaking ://

[@GhostEmblem]

5:55 Did you just count the 10 commandments as a an original film?

[@nelisezpasce]

Apparently so is Doctor Zhivago.

[@casual-owl]

My favorite movie is, hands down, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi. So, I guess it's both because it's both building on a pre-established story, but also bringing new things to the table. Edit: Or is that just building. I don't know.

[@Roggoll]

Building films tend to not interest me. Inventing films are much more my speed.