Looks like a great UST projector. Having Dolby Vision will set a precedent for all projectors moving forward!
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Yes it's great having DV!
@donmorton7282 Жыл бұрын
Great review buddy. Short throws keep getting better and better. Side note, the beard is looking as epic as ever.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks :)
@paulcarroll627 Жыл бұрын
Looks great. For a light controlled room, this has to be a serious contender for a true cinematic experience. Great job mate
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate - this projector really surprised me and is the real deal with Dolby Vision support - which is unheard of from a projector (unless it's a Christie Eclipse haha!)
@paldri10 ай бұрын
Got one a week ago along with Aeon 123” CLR3. Totally bad ass at night, but definitely not as bright in daytime as most vids ive seen are claiming. Id call the built in speakers as “usable for a few days until your actual sound system arrives.” They are loud, but very tinny… annoying in fact if you turn then up. We work all day anyways, so this wont really get used before dark so it’s fine. Besides, no matter how you slice it, it’s pretty rad having a 9ft wide screen 😂
@BuildMontage10 ай бұрын
No projector works well during the day. It's impossible to get black on a white screen when ambient light is hitting it - and I always recommend external speakers - im pretty sure I did in this video but I cant remember I pretty much say it in every single UST review I do.
@ChadWoodward Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! I actually picked one of these up late last year and have been building my room since. I've had it up and running a few times but have yet to have it fully connected to all my speakers. From what I've seen it's looked incredible. I've had a little envy seeing all of the standard throw projectors on your channel but a UST was just the best option for me due to my room. I knew from my own eyes that it was a great viewing experience but I'm still glad to hear your thoughts. Thanks again!
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Definitely - I love UST projectors and have a dedicated UST room - which I did the review in - where I've had many brands showcased. This one is as close to a standard throw projector performance as Ive seen to date.
@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz Жыл бұрын
Has it 3D?
@ChadWoodward Жыл бұрын
@@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz It hasn't
@danmaier2077 Жыл бұрын
Great review Tony. I hope that you and your family are doing well! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 ❤❤
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You too!
@dd_zzero6827 Жыл бұрын
I saw this somewhere else and was thinking about it. Thank you for the thorough review.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Buy the Formovie Theater - bit.ly/3XVfKFD (CORRECTION FORM VIDEO HDMI 2.1 4K 60)
@straightspine9870 Жыл бұрын
As usual and awesome video, but I've got to say the B-roll on this was epic. Production is getting better and better. Great job!
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you! I really appreciate that!
@straightspine9870 Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage you're welcome mate. I've been very slowly building a home theatre setup and inspired from you I've gone down the Krix rabbit hole. Managed to snag a pair of used Harmonix for $1800 (AUD) and now the damage is done - I'm in love!
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
@@straightspine9870 great set of speakers! Enjoy them!
@chisel83 Жыл бұрын
Great review cheers 🍻
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@manoroid1 Жыл бұрын
Great review but the HDMI 2.1 will not do 4k120p. 60hz max.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a 60hz projector I think I just slipped because I’m so used to saying it.
@mickeyeverett3082 Жыл бұрын
Pleased to hear this review Tony. Wasn’t really keen on USTPs but felt I would need one given that my home theatre room at the end of the year will be … influenced … by the steam punk aesthetic and my wife has the most beautiful ceiling fan she wanted me to have in there!!! As you say, placement with (centre) speaker because I didn’t have a cabinet set up in mind. I do like the copper tones of my Klipsch. Perhaps I can blame her for the need for in wall speakers and the acoustic transparent screen eh? Wish me luck!
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
GOOD LUCK!!
@CafeinaPlus4k Жыл бұрын
Hey Tony, whats the best 4K triple laser you ever tested?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
The best one I've ever seen is the Christie Eclipse - it's not a UST though and retails over $500K... for triple laser, I'd say for my preference of having high dynamic range, then I'd say the formovie. If brightness if your thing over contrast, the Casiris A6.
@TorinTPG Жыл бұрын
Holy cow...you calibrate for review units? You're a crazy man!!
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Yes I do! It's important if I'm going to do a review to test the performance after calibrated for my room/screen.
@TorinTPG Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage that's why you're the true MVP on HT reviews
@ricky3506 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Do you know how this stacks up against the Epson ls800 ?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
The Epson LS800 is one projector I'm yet to review. Hopefully I get one in soon.
@andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697 Жыл бұрын
incredible Tony
@mkhaudio Жыл бұрын
I have wemax a300 UST projector. I think it's a great quality picture projector. Not many reviews but it looks nice and sharp picture
@jyfjgtyuh Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I'm interested in this projector for my new HT room. Like almost all reviews, you didn't address the issues of center speaker and placement - how far from the wall and the distance from the bottom of the screen to the bottom of the projector. My room allows 110"-120" screen size, but the ceiling height is 228CM. If I subtract 150cm screen height, and 40cm from the bottom of the screen to the bottom of the projector and allow 20 cm of space from the top of the screen to the ceiling, the projector will sit almost on the floor, so I will need to build a special cabinet for it . I also found no way to integrate my Klipsch RP-450C center speaker, as it will block the projection path.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
I don't talk about the constraints of a UST during a UST review because it's not relevant to the actual product. Placement needs to be worked out on an individual basis by the potential purchaser. I have made several videos about UST projectors as a concept and the constraints. Here is one where I go into more detail about it... kzbin.info/www/bejne/il60Y36wlJJmotE
@jyfjgtyuh Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage Thank you for your answer and for the link. The Formovie is more restrictive in placement compared to other UST projectors like the epson LS800 for example. For 120" screen it needs to be placed 33cm from the wall compared to just 17.3cm for the epson, and 27cm from the bottom of the screen to the top of the projector, vs just 19 cm for the epson. With the epson I can place the unit on a cabinet with the center speaker under the projector, whereas it will not be possible with the Formovie. I planed to install Formovie in my new HT room, but after considering all the limitation, I will probably buy a TCL 98" QLED TV instead. The TCL is selling here in Europe for 3500 Euro, the same price as the Formovie, but I will save 1000-1500 Euro on a ALR screen and I will have no problems with the center channel.
@KeepYaHeadUpTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, great review and video as usual. Apologies if I've missed it in a video but how would you go about calibrating a home theater projector? I see you used the Colourchicker Display Plus.... would that plus contrast patterns be enough?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
I didn't show the calibration process - it isn't a very entertaining watch so I cut it out (I have left it in before and seen thats when people click away from the video) - so I use HCFR to calibrate and for the purposes of the video, doing the gamma, colour temp and prim/sec colours is usually enough to extract a really great image - and the Formovie does it insanely well.
@KeepYaHeadUpTS Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage thanks Tony for the info. Really useful to know how someone with your vast knowledge would go about bringing the best out of a projector. Really appreciate it
@TreesOnTheBeach14 күн бұрын
The displayed videos, all of them, seem to be pretty murky. Is that the actual picture quality, or is that maybe just KZbin compression making the video look imprecise?
@BuildMontage14 күн бұрын
Long time ago I filmed that one, I have upgraded my cameras since, so likely it is that plus the compression of KZbin filming a screen. It was a great projector I do remember that.
@oceanyt8 Жыл бұрын
Hi can you please share the calibration settings? It's similar to yours.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
The cal settings are relevant to my screen and room and the actual projector - I don't think they will help you very much as calibration relies on various elements specific to your own setup.
@oceanyt8 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. May I ask one more thing. I can't just start the projector occasionally and there are 4 lights on constantly. Any idea?
@harrykatsaros Жыл бұрын
Is this different to the 2022 model or is this that model?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
I believe it's the same model. I was late to review due to geographic location and stock availability. Really glad I got my hands on one though as its an insanely good projector.
@Joered1012111 ай бұрын
Hey, i know each projector is different but i'm just having a nightmare for months sicne i got mine, getting accurate colors and calibration with my x-rite. Do you think youc ould share your calirbated settings for sdr and hdr? I would see how you've adjusted them, I cannot for the life of me, get cyan to look natural.... greatly appreciated! Good video thank you!
@BuildMontage11 ай бұрын
That’s a shame. Unfortunately the unit has been returned so I don’t have the settings any longer.
@percybedford6266 Жыл бұрын
Will you be doing other projector reviews?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Sure, UST projectors are something I do regularly on my channel. This one so far has been the best one I've tested.
@percybedford6266 Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage I am thinking more long throw projectors. I would like to see a review on the new Sony 5000es and Epson LS12000.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
@@percybedford6266 I did review the 12000b but didnt have enough time with it to give it a proper review. If you're looking in that range, hands down the JVC NP5 - which is the projector I'm personally about to buy :)
@eberefetzn Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting review. One question: What screen size are you using? 120inch?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Im using a 100" screen.
@joanng95852 ай бұрын
Hi, have you encountered problems regarding fan error? Mine says "Fan error. Projector will automatically turn off on 5 seconds so as to protect itself". Any idea how to rectify?
@BuildMontage2 ай бұрын
No Im sorry no - it was a test unit sent back to the distributor after I did my video.
@salehkambijo18497 ай бұрын
The formovie vs benq4550i in dark room for movies mostly SDR who wins?
@BuildMontage7 ай бұрын
Formovie
@h0v088 Жыл бұрын
How do you compare this to the Casiris A6?
@harrykatsaros Жыл бұрын
The Formovie Theatre won best UST projector in 2022. Beating out all the big guys and boutique manufacturers including much more expensive models.
@h0v088 Жыл бұрын
I understand, but the Casiris was not even part of the lineup to be judged. And as he just reviewed the Casiris, I would want to know his opinion as he had very positive feedback on it.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
The Casiris A6 is my daily driver - it's a bright projector so if you like a bright image, the A6 is great, however, if you prefer dynamic range, nice contrast and excellent tone mapping - the Formovie is the way to go imho.
@h0v088 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! Even with the Formovie having 600 ANSI lumens more, the Casiris is still a better daytime option? I guess what I'm trying to get as is, my current set up will be very basic, no ALR screen as we do not know if it will be a permanent spot for the UST projector. Would the Casiris be a better option on a white wall or the Formovie?
@tylerdoerrer3576 Жыл бұрын
Does it support 3D?
@Gshiznit74 Жыл бұрын
Great review and has me wondering about changing my current projector. Just wondering how the black levels hold up with this model. It looked impressive with what was captured but how is it in person and compared to other brands.. Thanks
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
The black levels on this are great. The video doesn't do it full justice compared to what you see in person.
@Jay-gc8vd Жыл бұрын
Where can I go to calibrate my formovie like you have done. I'm loving the picture.
@Jay-gc8vd Жыл бұрын
Or do you have the calibration settings?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Basically I use a calibration sensor and HCFR software to get the colours and colour temperature correct for my screen and room. Sharing my settings won’t help you as it’s dependant on the environment. Also it’s boxed back up waiting to be collected to go back to the supplier :)
@salehkambijo18497 ай бұрын
If u have to choose between formovie and benq ht4550i In dark room for movies What would you choose?
@BuildMontage7 ай бұрын
If I wanted to keep my center speaker I'd pick the BENQ, but if I was happy for Dolby Vision, I'd pick Formovie!
@salehkambijo18497 ай бұрын
So i can't go wrong with either, In term of picture quality? Overall am watching SDR tv shows and HDR movies in dark room Half the time my content in 1080p which one will give me better upscaling and aharp image?
@abdoeraouftitus8066 Жыл бұрын
Hi great detail review can you use it with a transparent cinema scope screen
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes you could for sure, however it would be like any other projector where you would have overscan. It does have aspect ratio options so you can crop if necessary I believe - I didn't test as I have a standard 16:9 screen. Great projector though - would love to own one.
@oceanyt84 ай бұрын
Hi, i had encountered a fan error and the projector is auto shut down ...any idea ? Thanks
@BuildMontage4 ай бұрын
Have you contacted Formovie? I wouldn't have a clue I'm sorry.
@Wimpelmann Жыл бұрын
My Formovie is comming next week. Would you mind sharing the calibration settings for us? Greeetz from the Netherlands
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the unit was returned back after the video was done so I cant share my settings with you :(
@Wimpelmann Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage ☹☹☹ Would you say is´t really necessary to calibrate the Projector? That would cost me around 150 Euro´s over here.
@dotnetdevni Жыл бұрын
What do u feel of lesser brands I mean not the samsungs lgs and epson etc?
@johnbarsby8382 Жыл бұрын
Can you expand some more on the Display Mode. Can this do a CIH zoom / lens memory like say the Epson 9400
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
The display modes are just changing the aspect ratio so no it can't do switching or has any CIH zoom/lens memory. A UST has a complex lens system to allow it to throw a rectangular image from that angle.
@sorsiva Жыл бұрын
Great review! I was wondering in your opinion/setup how the movie image quality of the Formovie compares to the JMGO N1Ultra? I know they are different types of projectors I’m just trying to get a practical idea of how the image stacks up
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
They have a similar feeling about them. The n1 ultra has better focus and brightness uniformity high is expected from a standard throw projector. The Formovie does have Dolby vision support which is awesome, and brightness wise both are similar. I think for ambient lit rooms the Formovie is better but dedicated rooms maybe the N1 ultra.
@sorsiva Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for answering this! It’s sometimes tough to imagine that the N1 can perform so well at such a low price point.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
@@sorsiva only when you realise that a UST has a lot of hurdles to overcome, especially with the optics and the angle of display and getting that right, focus uniformity etc... So the N1 has an easier time being able to focus and shoot straight. I think Formovie is definitely the best UST on the market right now THAT IVE TESTED! - I still need to look at the AWOL and a couple of other new units too.
@billydarling7500 Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage would love to hear your thoughts on the Hisense PX1 if you get your hands on one. The price has become really attractive on those.
@cliftonfriese18 Жыл бұрын
Is there enough room between UST and screen to put an in wall center channel under the screen?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
I placed my speaker under the projector - it's not ideal but the Graphix has great dispersion so from 4.5m away it doesn't sound like it's coming from under. You could go a shallow on-wall or a speaker behind the screen as well - or cut the call and place a loudspeaker in the cavity. Just have to think outside the box - a UST has a lot of positives as well.
@mr.w4904 Жыл бұрын
Great review man. I have a question. What is the farthest distance vertically, can the projector and screen be from each other?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
It depends on what size screen you’re trying to achieve and whether you w ish to keystone or not
@mr.w4904 Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage Thanks for replying, but I recently found out I can't use a ust projector with my Screen Innovations slat screen. Guess I'll be getting the epson ls11000 or 1200.
@ag121171 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for getting back to me - made the purchase, ✅
@nissaysama7848 Жыл бұрын
hello, can you do a formovie theater vs hisense PX1-PRO ?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
I generally don't do VS videos as there are way too many projectors and they all have strengths and weakenesses so I try to focus each video on the projector in review so you can get the most info about it.
@kekethetoad Жыл бұрын
What's the motion clarity like compared to OLED TV's?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
You can't compare this to an OLED. It's not a fair comparison. Motion is however, quite nice and feels very cinematic vs an OLED. It will come down to a number of factors I guess as to what you're looking for to buy something like a UST.
@kekethetoad Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage Gaming in my case. Do these triple laser projectors use LCD screens? One for each RGB? Or mirrors? If mirrors that means direct RGB laser through lens to wall which would potentially mean the only limiting factor for motion is the mirror articulation speeds.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
@@kekethetoad too much latency for gaming in my view. Casual gaming is ok but no where near what an Oled will do for pro gaming.
@bertybertface1914 Жыл бұрын
No 3D? My thoughts are, when Avatar 2 hits home theatre, it will reignite the 3D market. There is glassesless 3D tech coming. It is only for gaming atm, but it will eventually hit the home cinema market. No 3D, no sale.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
No 3D correct.
@RyoBLN Жыл бұрын
Why looks the contrast mostly washed out. Only on the end it looks fine. Looks it really so terrible or was it just not perfect recorded/color correction ?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Not sure I understand what you mean? It only looks perfect in blacked out conditions. I showed it in all lighting conditions. I don't color correct or edit the video to make it look better outside of the v-log to rec709 conversion. In daylight or any ambient light the image does suffer.
@RyoBLN Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage if I see videos of it on other clips it looks not so much contrastless in low ambilight. Looks it really like on your video or like on others that’s the question in my mind xd ;) wished i could make screenshots but let me check the timeline to show
@RyoBLN Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage 1:09 looks really like a grey instead of black. Lack of Contrast. 1:28 Black Bars are really going to grey if the image has more light. So blocking light for black seems not so good (i had seen a test there was black level 0,02cd ... should be darker then) 2:30 Looks like its dark in the Room but the CLR Screen still looks more grey then black. Lack of Contrast. 4:00 same here. Looks like room is dark but lack of contrast. Highlights in the Movie looks not really bright. Black looks like grey. The Whole Image looks like it is recored with a FLAT Profile. 8:45 Looks much butter. 9:30 Looks more like i see it on other Reviews, but still a bit Flat. Other Videos looks less Flat. Like: u894ttz7lAQ , 2ae8cYUa1h, 2b8PXZtL1q8
@nailsforbreakfast1784 Жыл бұрын
This rig good for running a golf simulator?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
I can't see why not!
@15.emanuelshaju24 Жыл бұрын
Which is the best 4k laser short throw projector for 200inch screen available in market now....
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
I don't know of any USTs that can do 200" - there would be a LOT of focus uniformity issues once you get past 120" on most projectors.
@15.emanuelshaju24 Жыл бұрын
I am not saying about ultra short throw. Just normal short throw..
@twoknife Жыл бұрын
If only they made a shorter throw version of it. I can't quite fit it in my space at 120 inches without the image ending up on the ceiling and for 100 inches I might as well just purchase a TV
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
That’s fair
@twoknife Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage Best hope for USTs might be Hisense. Their new models have better throw ratios and get Dolby Vision.
@TorinTPG Жыл бұрын
What's the demo scene @ 6:52? and @ 7:06
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
These are royalty free stock footage I pay for for the demos.
@TorinTPG Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage nice!
@NoNNoGame Жыл бұрын
where to buy in europe?
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
EU Region - bit.ly/3Z1iiTD
@aamarrahman8631 Жыл бұрын
Max screen size??
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
It was in the video but it’s 150”
@marcfavell Жыл бұрын
The question is is it's just displaying the Dolby vision badge and not actually displaying Dolby vision because hight end that coat 50k dont have DV yet ol
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
No it’s 100% Dolby Vision. Easily proveable as I was able to set the Apple TV to Dolby Vision. It only allows that if ur detects the display is capable of it.
@homeofVash Жыл бұрын
Are you okay? You just came across so sad. Like you recently lost a loved one, and you made this video because you had to. Reading the script while trying to suppress emotions. I say this out of genuine concern, as your videos have always been very lively. You would always come across happy and excited about what you were talking about. This just felt off from your usual stuff.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you reaching out. I put a lot of work into this video both from the research, filming and editing. I am ok, thank you for asking, there are some things going on in my personal life, I just didn't realise it had seeped into my video...
@Bonze661 Жыл бұрын
No 3d??? How does it compare to the Vava???
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
No 3d. As I said this is probably the best one I've tested so far.
@EnriqueReyes Жыл бұрын
The AWOL LTV 3500 and 2500 have 3D and may soon get Dolby Vision with a firmware upgrade. An firmware upgrade coming this week will at least give it enhanced black levels.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
@@EnriqueReyes I havent got the AWOL in for review yet but it may be coming.
@codeless64 Жыл бұрын
Wow, did that picture fade dramatically once a drop of light was let into the into the room. Not worth it.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
It’s my room not the projector. It’s probably the best result from any projector I’ve tested. The window is side on to the screen and crushes any light coming in. The worlds brightest projector wouldn’t be able to hold up against my window of death!
@bonitabromeliads8 ай бұрын
why do people get these big revolting beards?
@BuildMontage8 ай бұрын
I think u meant awesome 🤩
@TorinTPG Жыл бұрын
First
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
As always...
@theglaok Жыл бұрын
He definitely lost a subscriber and future viewer saying Black Adam was trash that was the biggest let down of the video.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
Really? You liked Black Adam? As a DC tragic, I thought it was terrible. I much prefer the DC Animated - trakt.tv/movies/superman-shazam-the-return-of-black-adam-2010. - Sorry you feel so strongly you unsub :o
@aj12271 Жыл бұрын
Biggest weakness of this projector is lag time of 42 milliseconds. That's too high for heavy gaming if that's something important to you when choosing a projector.
@BuildMontage Жыл бұрын
It’s for movies
@aj12271 Жыл бұрын
@@BuildMontage that's a dumb response. That's like saying the only thing a freezer is for is ice cream.