How to Setup Saltwater Mixing Stations & Auto Water Change With the Neptune DOS | Neptune Apex Guide

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BRStv - Saltwater Aquariums & Reef Tanks

BRStv - Saltwater Aquariums & Reef Tanks

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Today Randy teaches you how to build an auto saltwater mixing station for your reef tank and setup a Neptune DOS for your auto water change system AND shares his Top 10 tips for using the DOS on your reef tank. If you have a Neptune Apex and you're still mixing your saltwater manually or carrying buckets for water changes...it's time to step your game up and stop working harder than you have to!
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@chickenfist1554
@chickenfist1554 Жыл бұрын
I'm learning loads from these videos. Just a shame I don't have an Apex system or a tank to put it on! 😂
@OCReventsAndbuilds
@OCReventsAndbuilds 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, it’s been a awesome difference. I had it set up with sch 80 solenoids valves but was a lot of water fast so never felt safe doing it without watching it, now it’s set up and basically forget
@maxtisch3300
@maxtisch3300 3 жыл бұрын
There is something I left out of my previous comment. i would like to thank Randy and BRS for providing a wealth of information, they are giving options and ideas...it is much appreciated! As to actually doing this I'm in the camp that with solenoids and optical sensors, which are notoriously unreliable etc. I would not trust this path. Sometimes we automate for the sake of automation and cool stuff. Many times simple is better, it's definitely has less opportunity to fail. As the old saying goes; "Keep it simple stupid". (Bobby Fraser hit the nail on the head).
@68glp
@68glp 2 жыл бұрын
I just set up my dos for manual water change and couldn’t figure out why it was t drawing water from the tank - you answered it here - when you prime the line both heads spin to the right but when you do water change right head spins opposite so you have to switch your lines around ! I caught that here in your video and for that I am grateful!
@maxtisch3300
@maxtisch3300 3 жыл бұрын
I have been tempted to do this, but it is expensive. However, my primary concern is confidence in Neptune equipment, their controller is well thought of but pretty much all their accessories are at best 50/50 in reviews on the BRS site and R2R. Their EB832 is less than 2.5 stars and most other equipment barely pushing 3 stars. Looking at the construction of the EB832 I would say it commands a huge premium ($280) for the relatively modest quality.
@nic-cd7dg
@nic-cd7dg 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched this a million times. Will NEVER get tired of it.
@markstover984
@markstover984 Жыл бұрын
That tip on running the remove pump in reverse is awesome! Thanks BRS! Sure miss Randy.
@JoesCoralReef
@JoesCoralReef 3 жыл бұрын
I need this, can’t wait.
@ahmedghamdi1668
@ahmedghamdi1668 3 жыл бұрын
I’m monitoring my mixing tank salinity with apex salt&temp PM2 and programed the DOS wc not to work when salinity is below 34, moreover I’m in the process of building an auto salt dispenser connected to apex via ACC V24 to dispense salt when salinity is below 34 and also ATK is automatically filling the mixing tank to keep it always full... by this approach you can easily reduce the size of you mixing tank and end “adding salt” dilemma that every reefer is facing .... wish me luck
@truereefkeeping6022
@truereefkeeping6022 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever do this?
@johnluciano5163
@johnluciano5163 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda did the same thing just with smart spear and bunch of smart switches. But a Neptune going to be my next investment. I forget to tell Alex to turn things back on like heaters.
@chrischapin6199
@chrischapin6199 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you included links to the items used in your video, or at least a list of all of the items.
@johngorla3250
@johngorla3250 3 жыл бұрын
Nice run down Randy! Thanks. One question I have is regarding daily water changes. I've always wondered whether or not an ATO is still needed when doing daily water changes. Any insights you can share?
@MatthewJHoodStudios
@MatthewJHoodStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you still need an ATO to replace any evaporated water. Salt doesn't evaporate with the water, so if you only replaced lost water with salt water, your salinity will rise pretty quick.
@BRStv
@BRStv 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, topping the tank off is still necessary. With an auto water change, you're removing saltwater and replacing it with the same amount of saltwater. Any evaporation needs to be taken care of via adding in freshwater.
@kaisfullerton1348
@kaisfullerton1348 7 күн бұрын
Hey team, as we know the apex solenoid is not rated for mains water pressure “high pressure” waht do you guys recommend/sell that I can use for the from mains to RODI unit solenoid
@andygustafson1
@andygustafson1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tip 9
@sandroaces
@sandroaces 2 жыл бұрын
Seems complicated at first but in the long run might be the easiest way to reef.
@Tanktanium
@Tanktanium Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to automate the salt mixing? I have a freshwater tank I'd like to add buffer/lake salt to but I can't find anything that seems to be able to add dry doses to a mixing bin.
@Healeyjet
@Healeyjet 2 жыл бұрын
How do you avoid TDS creep with the auto fill water system?
@nickgialias8015
@nickgialias8015 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to automatically turn off the auto water change when the LOWRES is triggered? It would be better to make you turn it on then to hope you turn it off.
@in2reefing583
@in2reefing583 11 ай бұрын
i noticed the dos head spin faster than the units i have , is there a setting to increase the speed of the dos head?
@johnsnow5167
@johnsnow5167 3 жыл бұрын
@bulk reef supply and Raaaaandy. I just ordered a bunch of Neptune stuff including a couple DOS units. Can I mount my DOS in the basement where my water mixing station is below my reef tank? Will a siphon occur and empty my sump?
@BRStv
@BRStv 3 жыл бұрын
Not an issue. The DOS works by pinching the line as the roller spins around the dosing head, so there should never be a back-siphon unless something in the dosing head were to be severely damaged somehow (which I've never seen happen).
@johnsnow5167
@johnsnow5167 3 жыл бұрын
@@BRStv thanks!! You guys are so awesome BTW and I love watching your videos. So informative. Maybe a video about coding the Neptune? I’m an idiot and unlike my 6 year old we didn’t learn it at that age lol. Unless I didn’t see that video I’d be a great one !
@jahsreef8386
@jahsreef8386 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to give an estimated cost of everything besides the apex and reservoir. I.e. modules, DOS, sensors and solenoids?
@tycalll
@tycalll 3 жыл бұрын
About $700
@dobermanguy9437
@dobermanguy9437 3 жыл бұрын
You can keep that 700 people are getting too goddamn lazy in the hobby I do it the old way
@adamashton7481
@adamashton7481 2 жыл бұрын
So while it's performing the water change it change in manual water change mode.. Does it turn off your pump and protein skimmer? So they don't have issues with lower water volumes
@BRStv
@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын
If you're using the DOS to do auto water changes, it removes water at the same time as it fills. There should be no fluctuation in your sump's water level.
@Salic1231
@Salic1231 2 жыл бұрын
Can you program it to auto water change once a week? I don't want it to change water every day but I also don't want to remember to push a button.
@BRStv
@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Just set up your DOS using the DOS manual water change task and set up the associated feed mode to be triggered at your desired day/time.
@marcelrodriguez2067
@marcelrodriguez2067 3 жыл бұрын
First i need to get an apex 😂
@hamidinagamov3540
@hamidinagamov3540 3 жыл бұрын
Same. kinda confusing when you don't have an apex. Looks like a very good investment tho.
@headstronggrafx
@headstronggrafx 3 жыл бұрын
Ok maybe dumb questions but how do you get your apex DOS to show units in Gallons not ML? I don’t see that option???
@BRStv
@BRStv 3 жыл бұрын
You'll see gallons when you're in the task function, but on the dashboard, it'll read as ML. There are 3785 ml per gallon, so just divide the ML number on the dashboard by 3785 to get gallons.
@michaelgreen7561
@michaelgreen7561 2 жыл бұрын
How do you hook those RO lines to the DOS? I didn't think it was possible.
@BRStv
@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын
You can either carefully push them onto the DOS' nipple fittings, or you can use 1/8" female NPT x 1/4" push connect fittings (link below). www.bulkreefsupply.com/1-8-female-npt-x-1-4-push-connect-adapter-john-guest.html
@aaronfisher8377
@aaronfisher8377 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where to get mixing bins like that? Didnt see them on BRS
@BRStv
@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын
We'd love to be able to supply them, but they're very expensive to ship! We usually use Norwesco or Ace Roto Mold brands. I would try a local farm supply store as they can usually order the size you want or may even have it in stock already.
@taishawnwomack6475
@taishawnwomack6475 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy all of this at? Like the water reservoirs down to the piping
@BRStv
@BRStv 3 жыл бұрын
We stock all of the PVC and fittings, but the actual water storage tanks are best purchased at a local farm supply store or Norwesco/Ace Roto Mold distributor.
@taishawnwomack6475
@taishawnwomack6475 3 жыл бұрын
@@BRStv thank you
@calinjohn3767
@calinjohn3767 Жыл бұрын
What size water tanks would you recommend for 248 gallon (total) tank? Was thinking at 2 55gallon. Is that too low?
@beccascott2867
@beccascott2867 3 жыл бұрын
On large tanks why doesn’t someone invent a way of cleaning and replacing trace elements to the old water then reusing that.? seems like we waste a lot of water in aquatics
@PatrickJewellTheGreat
@PatrickJewellTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
There was a thing a while back called “dialyseas” where it would filter the water like dialysis
@bobbyfraser6792
@bobbyfraser6792 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of inventions do that :-). Protien skimmers, filter socks/floss/rollers, fuges, ozone, GAC, GFO, carbon dosing, sulfur, etc are all designed to clean water. Calcium reactors, X-parts, kalkwasser, different lines of dosing products, etc are all designed to add trace elements to water.
@mikelee35
@mikelee35 3 жыл бұрын
And you can use biopellets to eat the nitrates, with the right equipment you rarely need a water change...
@tmclaughlin1989
@tmclaughlin1989 3 жыл бұрын
That's what the trident method is.
@PatrickJewellTheGreat
@PatrickJewellTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmclaughlin1989 not exactly.
@jayhawkscott
@jayhawkscott 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing in the reefing hobby that is made reliable by the use of the Neptune optical sensors. Those things are garbage! After replacing 5 sensors in 7 months on my ATK I went back to float switches. On the other hand the idea of using the DOS for the water change is great.
@djvez1200
@djvez1200 3 жыл бұрын
tempting until you have to get a program degree from Yale. I wish they would make it so much easier. the software just looks ridiculous.for that kind of money it should be alot easier. its just software,make it simple
@BRStv
@BRStv 3 жыл бұрын
The increase in the number of "task" functions has definitely made the Apex easier to use in recent years. Don't get us wrong, you can still get into the weeds and do some complicated custom programming if you want to, but you don't have to in almost all cases.
@truereefkeeping6022
@truereefkeeping6022 2 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about programming and I have been running Neptune DOS FOR AWC for over a month now and no problems
@nickgialias8015
@nickgialias8015 3 жыл бұрын
Seems a lot harder than "turning valves".
@bobbyfraser6792
@bobbyfraser6792 3 жыл бұрын
There's people who want to automate everything. My fear is that even if it were given to me completely free, I just don't know if all those level sensors and solenoids are any safer than a mechanical float switch, especially in the event of a power outage. You're just trading one point of failure for another, and solenoids are notoriously prone to failure. There's also all those parts (eg ~ 4:45 in the video) where it's "turn these things off for 5 minutes and remember to turn them back on". Not only is that likely more effort than turning a valve (eg you need to bring up the webpage or unlock your phone), there's a decent chance you're going to forget since you're not physically interacting with the object.
@SolidworksUnlimited
@SolidworksUnlimited 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like more work than a bucket lol
@BRStv
@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын
It might be more work to get it set up initially, but once it's done, water changes become so much easier.
@dostepan1
@dostepan1 3 жыл бұрын
When you ATO station cost more than whole my tank with equipment. This is for lasiest richest hobbyst.
@taishawnwomack6475
@taishawnwomack6475 3 жыл бұрын
Youre not lazy because you find a better solution. You sound silly and upset that people have money and would rather enjoy the tank more than worry about other things. You should probably cut your grass with scissors because buying a lawnmower is for lazy and rich folks
@Chris-zi9bb
@Chris-zi9bb 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy..... This look so complicated I think I won't buy a Apex Neptune!!!
@BRStv
@BRStv 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that we're talking about using the Apex for pretty advanced automation in this episode. You can certainly get a lot out of the Apex without it being complicated 😃
@kevinjames1587
@kevinjames1587 Жыл бұрын
Dude turn the excitement down
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