Bumping into the Wrong Muslim! Suboor Vs Atheist | Speakers Corner | Hyde Park

[@SubboorAhmadAbbasi]

Highly disrespectful of the guy to pretend he doesn't understand the indian accent of the Phd guy when he was fact checked on quantum mechanics. I saw what he did there, english is not his first language and he wouldn't let him complete what he saying and then say I don't understand, for anyone who wants to know about this topic further then put in the youtube search bar : Why Does Quantum Entanglement Defy All Logic? | Secrets Of Quantum Physics Lastly before he left he agreed his modal logic subscription is to an idea that controversial in philosophy and he was simply trying to state that under his particular view of modality an infinite regress of causes can exist.

[@SRNK...2127]

This little boy knows absolutely nothing about anything. I've got a headache listening to him waffle. Poor Subhoor who has to educate them of the ABC of philosophy and what an argument is. 😅🤣

[@fahad055]

​@@SRNK...2127 jazak Allah khair brother subboor .

[@Omarj1986]

Suboor, brotherly naseeha to you. Please stop telling people you are getting a free Philosophy lesson, it's sounds condescending. The goal is not to win debates but to win hearts. Ask yourself would the prophet be giving dawah like this? If not then it's not the way. Most of you brothers in the park have been affected by the atheists and are talking and arguing like them. This is normal to be affected by that which you are around. Take a step back and re-evaluate. Jazzakalalkhair. I'll repost this so hopefully you'll see this.

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@SRNK...2127 your confused lol thats just a cope

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@SRNK...2127 that's ovbiously not true as on several occasions I had to explain ideas and meanings of words because he was unaware of what they were.

[@zatoonh]

This guy will even tell his lecturer he's wrong

[@theboxingbiker]

Dude is perfect example of the dunning Kruger effect

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@theboxingbikerbro doesn’t know Philosophy and actually thinks the Muslim won lol

[@melodramaboiiii]

This whole conversation is an infinite regress. 😅

[@mochekoufi8143]

😂😂😂

[@TruthbeTold43]

lol

[@saimrahman862]

Lol haaaard

[@uponsunnah6986]

Best comment 😂

[@Fazilhot1]

Yesss I feel too . Headache 🤕. 😂😂😂😂

[@farooqahmed-md8fg]

How arrogance can hinder ones growth! This young boy is the perfect example. May Allah swt guide us all.

[@Wmeester1971]

How arrogance can hinder ones growth! That applies to the theist as well insisting God exists without being able to present the evidence.

[@Aces4767]

@@Wmeester1971the evidence is staring you in the face every single day it’s you who choose to ignore

[@Wmeester1971]

@@Aces4767 If there is one thing that stares me in the face, it is the ignorance of people who feel the need to plug their God into every gap in their knowledge, even when those gaps nowadays have a prefect explanation. This because changing their mind on these matters would collapse their worldview as they adhere to a doctrine that cannot be questioned. Meanwhile I'm perfectly fine to answer "I don't know" to most questions where theist answers "God"

[@mubashirkhan6881]

​@@Wmeester1971i dont know of the gaps strikes again 😂

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

​@@Aces4767What _evidentiary facts_ demonstrating the reality of this 'God' am I, an atheist, choosing to ignore. You will NOT answer this question DIRECTLY. WATCH!!!

[@gloverdragon6854]

His boy in the pinky red top got shook from Shabur 😂😂😂 started having to vape extra hard to cope with the spot light being put on him 😂😂

[@TheRockeyAllen]

Why is he so afraid to let others speak? Subboor was patient in allowing him to convey his points, but he was always interjecting everyone. Too insecure?

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

Ur literally ideologically brainwashed if that’s what u got out of this discussion your just as I gmo rat as he is. He cut me off countless times and I was only so persistent to speak because I realised he had no ideas wtf he was talking about and it became incredibly frustrating listening to him ramble about irrelevant things.

[@matswessling6600]

let others speak? subbor didnt let him speak at all...

[@SheikhhTV]

You know to stay calm when Suboor walks into a scientific debate

[@Thetruth-u7l]

Has he ever debated a real biologist? Lol

[@publicpm8809]

Lol yup Saboor is cryptonight to these scientism people

[@Thetruth-u7l]

@@publicpm8809 what about real biologists? 😂🤡

[@tzarak6257]

@@publicpm8809 Kryptonite*

[@publicpm8809]

@@tzarak6257 crypto or krypto makes no difference dear

[@jamilsaid3794]

O Allah, please keep Brother Suboor in Your protection and guidance always. Aamiin

[@masterbarin007]

o allah let me have 72 virgin gurls😂

[@SRNK...2127]

Ameen

[@randomness8819]

Im happy to see Alex on this side. ya Allah open his heart and lead him to serve in your pleasure ya Allah gift him with Islam. ameen

[@DaevorTheDevoted]

Ameen.

[@solkayani8137]

Ameen

[@hariskkb3446]

Aminnn...

[@tomwhitworth1560]

Muhammad was a pedophilic war lord who is rotting in hell.

[@akhbarkhanmohamad6705]

Great respect to our knowledgeble brothers.

[@achmadyazir1039]

Oh my goodness... He's arguing because he just doesn't want to look stupid.

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

No actually he’s defending a position he holds not the same thing lol

[@peace4045]

​@@Thepostmoderncynica donkey will hold its false position. It does not make the donkey right.

[@Le_Fullmetal]

@@Thepostmoderncynic His position was refuted and he still arguing, he is just confuse and irrelevant.. Full of bad faith he thinks he knows QM better than someone who has a PhD .

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@Le_Fullmetal he actually wasn’t refuted. No entailment was shown and he actually was right Ab the qm the phd response is just an appeal to authority. He’s also wrong look it up. This was a clear w for the atheist

[@MR.33133]

@@Thepostmoderncynic Provide your evidence then.. look it up is not an evidence

[@nobody.6451]

1 is debating logic 1 is debating egotism

[@SoMonstersDoExist]

It's impossible to argue with people like this.

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

Fr the Muslim is uneducated

[@gr3atestthink3r86]

Lol, this kid is really smart, Mansur has been proven to be a liar already.

[@TheThankfulServant]

Nice to see Saboor invite Alex into the conversation, May Allah open the heart of Alex towards Islam.

[@nadyahutangalong1371]

Best part,his friend even left 😂

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[@abdurrahmanmuhajir7310]

Subboor the beast in the park 💪

[@Thetruth-u7l]

Lol

[@Monolith1616]

You mean the chicken?

[@publicpm8809]

Atheists killer= Saboor

[@tzarak6257]

@@Monolith1616 Cry more

[@Monolith1616]

@@tzarak6257 Or I'll just finish my essays and mop the floor with the design arguments, the kalam and the contigency argument. Ahh, having a math and CS background makes things so interesting.

[@razaalikhan6948]

Subboor is a very good teacher. When the student doesn't understand, Subboor then comes at it from another example that can be easier to digest. The Indian gentlemen is also really well spoken.

[@matswessling6600]

subbor is wrong.

[@matswessling6600]

subbor is a dishonest sophist.

[@MR.33133]

@@matswessling6600 In reality and practice, Can you catch the bus if you need to ask an infinite number of people ? Answer: a never ending chain = no you can’t Any other answer is illogical lol

[@matswessling6600]

@@MR.33133 thats illogical: "catch the bus" implies a start time (now) and an end time (when bus leaves) which is an finite time span. if universe has existed forever then it would have had an infinite time span available.

[@MR.33133]

@@matswessling6600 You are twisting the argument and you know it lol Whether talking the bus has a time or not is not the argument at all. We are talking about what happened before it in the causing events. It’s just like the famous example of dominos If an unlimited number of dominos need to fall before the last domino falls then it will never do so because there is no cause for it to do so

[@John-hl5bo]

The guy with the red shirt he was getting to my nerve until subor humbled him

[@MuhammadAliUK]

This young boy is the perfect example of a deluded arrogance !!. BUT Anyway , an excellent job from you, my brother, Mr. Saboor !!🧠👏👏👏👏

[@homtanks7259]

JazakAllah'u khairan

[@aal-mouradi5642]

This guy keeps saying I disagree, then Subboor puts him in his place, and then he says i wasn't disagreeing with you😂😂😮

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

🤣🤣🤣put who in what place ? Did u even watch the discussion or do u understand what’s being said. You don’t get nuance lol

[@M.R1429]

@@Thepostmoderncynicloool I won't be surprised if you're the guy in the video 😂😂

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@M.R1429 ur very dumb

[@abdalhaqq9465]

When a student pretends to know more than the learnered.

[@NadeemHussain-rt3fd]

When you Think you have a Clue but then Br Saboor enters the Arena!! 👏👏👏

[@Wmeester1971]

"When you Think you have a Clue but then Br Saboor enters the Arena!!" what? Then you know you're talking to a religious zealot without a clue?

[@NadeemHussain-rt3fd]

@@Wmeester1971 👈When Dumb 🐓💩for 🧠 give themselves a LIKE 👍 like proper DESPERADOS to make it look like someone else agrees with their BS JUST SAYS IT ALL!!!! 🤦🏽😆😂🤣

[@_Mo-Ham_]

Yes, Saboor's full of crap. Specious crap.

[@NadeemHussain-rt3fd]

@@_Mo-Ham_ Has your Ass collapsed because you have no Christian countries to run and hide under??? 🤔 Maybe it’s just the JEALOUSY ripping out of you??? 🤔 Is that why you hide your faces and names to spew your loads??? 🤔 Do you foam out of the mouth when you make up your Bs??? 🤔 Would you Hide under your wife’s or mummy’s Skirt on the Battlefield too??? 🤔🤦🏽😆😂🤣

[@ismailsafi2755]

When he was getting destroyed by the PHD guy he started saying I don't understand your accent.

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

No he wasn’t saying anything that “destroyed” him lol I literally couldn’t understand what Tf he was saying

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@sharkhaha9770 who ? I’m confused are u just relating the last comment ?

[@lyrickoner]

​@@ThepostmoderncynicIt was clear. He said that in our world, an infinite regress isn't possible. Please name 1 valid point the athiest made in over 30 minutes ?

[@bachdeanOnline]

"can I catch the bus if there is infinite number of ppl I ask for a pound?" Answer: no you can't Explanation: if I ask a number of ppl a pound goes back at infinitum then it goes forever without a starting point. If there's no starting point then it will never reach the point where I receive 1 pound, therefore I can never catch the bus. Very simple explanation, If Suboor Ahmad explained the reason why the answer "can't" ..the Atheist guy couldn't have used the modal logic argument.. because if his answer was "can"..then he would have to explain how is the infinity going backward has a starting point..then he would have found the contradiction in his answer.

[@mohammedsainomo8414]

The guy in white is using argumentum as Infinitum.

[@BoxingEnthusiasts]

That’s what happens when one has a KZbin phd and another one who actually studied and has a real phd 😂😂 !!

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

Yeah the phd guy didn’t know what he was talking about

[@torontoyes]

I dont' want to say real PhD, but definitely one who has actually studied the field deeply. The young man has a laymans understanding, the brother has an experts understanding.

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@torontoyes no he doesn’t lol and the so called phd guy is wrong lol u don’t knwo what ur saying

[@torontoyes]

@@Thepostmoderncynic please enlighten us. What were they wrong about?

[@lmposterosrs7330]

​@@Thepostmoderncynic the argument about the super position id say shows that the atheist is older than his IQ. the photon being in super position is at the point of observation. the atheist is arguing that the particle is in superposition is a conclusion due to: and I quote: "Us not knowing where it is, so possibly it is everywhere". The photon being in super position is the OBSERVATION. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@razer0072073]

Imagine if Sharif Abu Laith was there

[@omglol9571]

The audacity to think he knows better than a physicists 🤦‍♂️

[@FortyMudas_]

This kid needs to allow people to finish their sentences…

[@lyrickoner]

Arrogance, he thinks he knows already.

[@pamalickkujabi3461]

Isn't this guy the same young man who was arguing with Muhammad Hijab together with his friend?

[@MuhammadAli-ye9nv]

He’s too emotional

[@TheRockeyAllen]

The kid is smart. He made a lot of definitional errors, but was attempting to stay faithful to logical reasoning. However, he is super arrogant, he will not grow in wisdom if he continues arrogance. If he, however, fights the arrogance within his heart, he has potential. May Allah guide him to Islam.

[@HippieZippy]

My sentiments verbatim & Aamin.

[@alikhoukon7533]

In’Sha Allah

[@moohy]

Ameen yes he is passionate but needs to listen, may Allah guide him

[@mpaturkey8027]

Bro sobuur lost it when the guy didn't listen 😊

[@HippieZippy]

"This is the problem when scientists don't study philosophers". Yet he's talking about particles. Next he'll be claiming that ducks say quark quark instead of quack quack!

[@MrAddyan]

Thanks for blowing my ears out 27:46

[@cobainkuy342]

😭😭😭😭

[@seidomer5457]

We are always proud of having Muslims like saboor,Mansur,hijab, adnan.

[@issameldein7671]

My brain just lit a 💡 in min 25:00 ..... that's why subbor told him he is so confident and so deluded 😅

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

No delusion just different intuitions lol ur confused

[@cunctator3401]

@@Thepostmoderncynic this kind of scepticism is ridiculous, how come you debate religion if you are not even sure whether you exist or not lol,this atheist guy is delusional, not the brother who left comment

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@cunctator3401 ur dumb

[@tiktokasylum5186]

@@cunctator3401but he wouldn’t use that level of scepticism on his day to day life.

[@MN-sc2uz]

​@@tiktokasylum5186especially his bank account. 🤣🤣

[@JuniorJunior-q2g]

16:15 Ali Dawah left the chat after that man's statement😂😂

[@evemiam]

Black guy on the left was waffling nonsense. It was his bruised ego and insecurities speaking, not him. Laughable.

[@rofekahmed3976]

He has fooled himself and does know anything actually. He has fooled himself with the little he knows. You can see this when he contradicts the most simplistic things if you are forever asking for a pound to get on a bus…you will never get on the bus. A rose isn’t a rose? He is just saying things for the sake of saying it became of his pride

[@lyrickoner]

Yes, that's it in a nutshell. The sad thing is, he doesn't seem to realise that he's only embarrassing himself in the process. He's the definition of an 'educated fool'.

[@Ks-ty9dy]

The contradiction he was failing to understand is that he's claiming that an ENDLESS series can END....then again he did say that a rose is not a rose

[@matswessling6600]

a endless serie can bmhave a beginning. in the same way a series that has always been going on can have an ending.

[@gwledosman9744]

The claim is an endless series have an end and he is wrong on that point if you keep asking a pound endlessly you will never have that pound cause the asking for it never finishes ​@@matswessling6600

[@gwledosman9744]

​@@matswessling6600your basically saying 1+1=3 5 7

[@MuslimRevertboii]

@@matswessling6600having a beginning or end in the series, negates it being a infinite regress. this means both events either, have a beginning or a end, so this example doesn’t help you.

[@matswessling6600]

@@MuslimRevertboii wrong. the set of whole numbers has a beginning but is still infinite. the set of negative whole numbers has an end but no beginning.

[@crozraven]

Suboor is very patience when almost everyone left the conversation, even other atheists, because how nonsensical everything that the pom pony tail guy was saying.

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

What was non sensical ?

[@commandar88]

​@@Thepostmoderncynichim trying to prove that even if there is an infinite regress of causes that subhoor can still take the bus. He didn't justify his position of how that is possible to that specific example

[@FazsterHQ]

@@Thepostmoderncynicare you the guy debating Suboor?

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@commandar88 he did justify it go watch again lol and it’s not nonsensical go study

[@461salu]

@@Thepostmoderncynic try harder bruh you got a long way to go still a lot of comments where you gotta say he didnt get destryoed blah blah blah xD no difference between you and the guy in red who had no clue what was going on and just laughed xD

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

This was a perfect example of bias and rhetoric, with none of my crucial arguments being sufficiently challenged by Soubour. The discussion about the burden of proof and quantum mechanics was completely irrelevant to the debate. The focus should have been on the contingency argument, but Soubour kept avoiding it. Throughout the debate, whenever I tried to pursue a line of reasoning, Soubour only sought to score debate points for the crowd and demonstrated a lack of understanding of various philosophical concepts: He had no idea what modality is or how to use it properly. He wasn't aware of the Principle of Sufficient Reason (PSR) or which causal principle he was using. He lacked knowledge of metaphysics, including the distinction between metaphysical and logical possibility. He used modal logic to discuss causal finitism but didn't understand what it meant. Soubour didn't demonstrate a clear victory and failed to show how I was wrong or how his position was right. It seemed like he relied on intuition as if it were equivalent to logic, which it isn't. Quantum mechanics may challenge our intuitions, but it doesn't contradict logic itself. Any unbiased spectator familiar with the subject matter can see that this was not a win for the theists. Those who confuse modal possibility with an actually existing thing are mistaken. (See 34:23 for clarification.) At 22:35, the debate seemed over, as Soubour dodged the question and begged it instead. His argument was invalid and didn't follow the laws of logic. I may return in the future to address other mistakes Soubour made, but for now, I hold no ill will towards anyone in this debate. My aim is to expose the confusion surrounding these topics and provide a better examination of Soubour's position to demonstrate its flaws.

[@commandar88]

Dude you openly admitted that subhur can take the bus, even if there were infinite people are infront of him. How?

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@commandar88 dude do u know what modal logic is he asked if it was possible and I said yes because anything impossible entails a contradiction and no contradiction is entailed so yes it’s possible lol

[@commandar88]

@@Thepostmoderncynic um how can something endless have a beginning at the same time without a necessary foundation? Without a necessary existence, it is a contradiction

[@commandar88]

@@Thepostmoderncynic infinite sum of finite things is a logical impossibility. Why? Because if you have an infinite amount of marbles and you remove half, you still have an infinite amount of marbles. Logically something infinite cannot be finite at the same time

[@peace4045]

​@@Thepostmoderncynicdude you dont even understand english man.... u dont even know what infinite means and u are talking like an asshat.

[@nabeel8194]

masterclass by Brother Subboor mA Allahuma barik

[@matswessling6600]

😂 subbor has no clue...

[@Soyodi]

This guy was certainly a confident delusional

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

how

[@commandar88]

​@@Thepostmoderncyniche believes that an infinite regress is not a logical problem in the real world

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@commandar88 no distinction between the real world and logic both u and him are completely unaware of what ur talking about go and study.

[@commandar88]

@@Thepostmoderncynic that doesn't solve the problem of infinite regression of infinite people before him catching the bus

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

@@commandar88 ur not understanding bro let’s make this very simple for u. What does it mean for something to be impossible?

[@AverageGamerOfficial]

Here: finished the burden of proof argument that guy is posting. In America we have a concept of judicial notice, which means that the court accepts certain facts (and claims) as true without any "burden of proof" being placed on anyone.

[@AverageGamerOfficial]

Also, the fact that he says every claim requires burden of proof, is a claim that puts the burden of proof on him to prove that, and every subsequent claim he makes to support that claim is claim that also independently requires a burden of proof, ad infinitum.

[@MN-sc2uz]

Lol check mate.

[@AverageGamerOfficial]

@@MN-sc2uz When you know a little bit about a lot, mixed in with arrogance, it's a dangerous combination lol.

[@MN-sc2uz]

@AverageGamerOfficial exactly. These kind of subjects actually requires one to study and acquire knowledge rather than just google study lol.

[@newonevery740]

Wow he is going so hard to confuse himself

[@jonahjameson9071]

Suboor!!! This guy is like Goku level 9,000. Game over.

[@uponsunnah6986]

17:30 the atheist is afraid to admit it. "What's the argument?" Do you agree? Yes or no? And he keeps dodging the question. 😅

[@zatoonh]

😂😂😂. I had such a good laugh at the guy in red and his stupid friend.

[@satanas5975]

Kid is very smart

[@jojoakaluchini4253]

I like this Subhoor. He usually is to nice and now showed he is a lion and did not play around.

[@mrk.......]

May Allah guide all atheists Ameen I don't understand why are they following something that they can't defend or which they can't even explain.

[@hamzaa.8082]

arrogance coupled with delusion.

[@joyboyboy5149]

lol African guy got scared and started waffling...hahahaha

[@bigmike4067]

@joyboyboy5149 Who said he was African?

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

and where was he waffling lol

[@HippieZippy]

African? When did he mention that? Are you commenting on the right video?

[@Thepostmoderncynic]

Where did he get scared wtf did u see the sophistry ?

[@kaytee1127]

Brother Suboor. You could have refuted him on his own terms: contradictions. You cannot ride a bus while also awaiting the cost of riding the bus (which will take an infinite amount of time).

[@MrAjiii]

Young lad to a PhD physicist.. you tell me and I'll tell you how you're wrong. 🤯 Bottom line.. you're not catching the bus!

[@faisalsaab-xp4xi]

ماشاءاللہ❤

[@wonderwalls3565]

The contradiction was the infinite permissions will need to end at the last permission and there is no last permission in the infinite permission.

[@hunterwashere6242]

OMG this had me dying😂😂😂 "Bro he has a PhD in physics" "I DONT CARE WHAT HE HAS ITS WRONG!! YOUR CONFUSED" This guy is a champ😂

[@testofbeings]

People will ask questions *5 seconds after the question* *Interrupts* Please let brother Suboor speak and listen.

[@mediaserve3334]

Nice to see max b got released

[@austrianbeatboxchamp]

Subhoor Wait-A-Second Ahmad Abassi has the patient I want to have one day. MashaAllah brother ❤

[@benjaminlawson940]

Young brother was schooling about what debating a point actually is lol

[@swampy1234]

Kid is smart af

[@User-dn4vi]

That guy is living in 2323, the way he steals stances and switches the tables is incredible.

[@Fayad1524]

this kid isn't here to learn or express what he believes in, just to talk back the way others to him. what's the point of even being there when he isn't even willing to listen. most of the stuff went over my head bcuz he couldn't stop talking, just had to interrupt.

[@TheRockeyAllen]

The reality of infinity is a philosophical question, NOT a mathematical question. Attempting to make sense it from within the bounds of Naturalism will always lead to a failure.

[@yaseenmeyer8452]

I believe that whenever someone makes a claim. And the other one doesn't believe it, then you must explain on what basis your claim is.

[@peace4045]

How to prove rose is a rose if you dont believe a rose is a rose ? The fact you dont believe does not mean a claim need to be proven.

[@KhalilBizani]

infinity is an ideal nonphysical and purely mathematical concept. in other words, it doesnt exist. we simply use infinity to analytically solve math modeled problems. As soon as we go back to numerical/physical side, infinity becomes a high value and no more than that.

[@_Mo-Ham_]

At last ! Someone making sense.

[@pbky4676]

The existence of an absolute being can be presented simply (in summary form without going in detailed steps) to be true as follows. Let us take statement A: there is no absolute truth, all are relative. This statement A is self destroying/contradictory. Because if it is true then there is no absolute truth. Even the content of the statement A is not a absolute truth. But that means there must be atleast one absolute truth, which is not relative to anything. So A contradicts with itself. So if we take the statement B: there are absolute truth, truth value of which is not relative to anything. This is self-consistent. As its oppostive is false, it is true. But truth is a description of something C, but absolute truth to remain absolute it must be about something C having at least one absolute aspect that will be described by B. As this statement B is not time bound, the thing C is not time bound and has aspects which are not relative any other things. Now, (if) there can be many such C which can have associated absolute truths and other relative truth. But relative aspects must have relativity to the absolute truths, otherwise it will not be relative. So only timeless existence will be accumulated to a single C which will hold all the absolute aspects together. So there must be only one entity with all absolute truth which is beyond time or any relativity to others. Every other things/truth are relative to that absolute entity. Because these set of absolute information together forms an entity which that set describes. Hence, the existence of an absolute entity with all absolute aspects is necessarily true.

[@matswessling6600]

This is how Subboor behaves when he doesnt understand the question.... 😂

[@mohamaddoughman4554]

bro you almost burst my eardrums

[@1spiders1]

Did you all notice this guy was such a head fk , all most everyone left 😂

[@raheelaali9767]

Brother Suboor absolutely rocks !! MashAllah ❤

[@Iunnnooo]

They intentionally wont grasp the concepts of infinity, the other guy admitted. And then they try to argue so obviously it wont make sense and discussion is going nowhere.

[@fsgthelabel]

Philosophically, if we're suggesting that infinite is defined as endless, he would be asking for 1 pound endlessly. therefore, he would never get the 1 pound to catch the bus. Which would be an infinite regression.

[@OmoiSenpai]

Loud Audio warning 5 seconds after 27:40

[@lutonzmn]

17:18 here we have a sophisticated tiger lurking behind suboor, who is casually hunting his next meal,tries not to be noticed while not setting his eyes off the next prey.

[@BesimtariBerat]

you know its going to be a savage mauling when u see Ali dawah, Suboor and Smile to jannah infront of u.

[@AverageGamerOfficial]

My guy doesn't even know what the words he is using mean: modality does not mean what he thinks it does.

[@yassarfarooq4762]

ماشاءالله respect br saboor ahmed

[@amo573]

The way this guy is speaking shows his arrogance and hints at underlying insecurities about his own knowledge. He could not tolerate being challenged. Allah guide him

[@rojhasan548]

I think you're onto something about his own knowledge...if most people don't understand what he is saying, then he really doesn't know it himself.

[@Eren119]

You guys are really very patient, I could not take the bullshit

[@rojhasan548]

The bus example has a contradiction. The man has to catch a bus (finite task) BUT it depends, or contingent upon, the man going through infinite people to get £1 (infinite task). So, the premise is impossible because the man has to complete an infinite task to complete a finite task. Thats a contradiction. So his modal arguement about everything is possible as long as it doesnt contradict, agrees with Suboors arguement.

[@alikhoukon7533]

Yes but Suboor was asking the boy to provide burden of proof

[@dxxnish7170]

Someone can walk infinitely forward, but someone cannot ask for a pound coin from an infinite number of ppl who don't have a pound coin and get that pound coin. In order to get the pound you need someone to have the pound. Contradictiom is that you are getting a pound from an infinite no. of ppl who don't have a pound. For heaven, it is an infinite time and causes forwards from a certain independent foundation like the first example. For contingent, causal chain it's like the 2nd, noone has the power to sustain existence, therefore existence should not be able to sustained except by One who is an Independent Sustainer.

[@mistermannan]

You can actually see how these convos lead nowhere. Look at how many people are at the start. By the end. Just 3 people left.

[@DrissBIYA]

Guys, Anyone knows if he took the bus in the end?

[@mokhachoka2918]

When the white boy said he was autistic, it all made sense

[@DEZZA12]

when the knowledge is not one of benefit.

[@freeman7983]

Baraka ALLAHU fikoum

[@tucker4173]

for a small guy, he got a massive ego.

[@MuhammadAliUK]

This young boy is the perfect example of a deluded arrogance !!.

[@matswessling6600]

eh. no. Subbor is the the perfect example of learning without insight. he has no idea what he is talking about.

[@MuhammadAliUK]

@@matswessling6600 Honestly, your words indicate a very poor level of understanding and honesty! Here I am not talking about Subbor, whether he is a Muslim or a non-Muslim, but according to my observation of the Speakers’ Corner for many years, this man can sit and teach everyone in the Speakers’ Corner! As for you and millions like you, a school will be opened to teach you everything from the beginning !!! Subbor your uncle yah-walla !!!🤔

[@matswessling6600]

@@MuhammadAliUK subbor needs to take a first level course in mathematics. So he learns the basics of infinite sets.

[@SLim_Edition]

and an atheist Niel Degrasse say there is infinity after infinity, how can you catch the bus? LOL

[@akilhussain3272]

you can never win an argument with a fool!

[@jeff6660]

Anyone who believes that a man rode a winged horse to the moon and back can safely be dismissed as completely nuts in my opinion.

[@nadeemh00]

The child with the hedgehog on his head is trying to debate a professor compare to him he just made himself look like a idiot and it's cruelty to keep a hedgehog on for a such a long time has anyone reported him to the rspca

[@1spiders1]

He’s telling a physicist what physicist say lol

[@waliul280]

12:19 Negation is not possible here because the term "roses are not roses" is a contradiction in the first place. Therefore it is not even a statement.

[@3culturetv]

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

[@ahe970]

This atheist his problem he never stops talking - he does not allow anyone to talk for 2 seconds. That way he will never learn anything - waste of time