Bun's FINALLY A Bundler (and much much more)

[@IronMaidzen]

Now i wait for "bun fmt" and "bun lint", so i can start projects without any dependencies and just code

[@m4saurabh]

I don't think they should do this.

[@IronMaidzen]

@@m4saurabh why? Deno does it its awsome. I want my tooling to be heavily opinionated so there is no disccussions about "break after function" "empty line before return" give me a preconfigured formater and linter and if someone like you wants special formatting just use prettier and eslint and fight with your config every update. And everyone can be happy

[@m4saurabh]

@@IronMaidzen you don't get it, the reason deno fmt, dprint, biome are still not able to replace prettier is because it support a wide range of languages, like does deno fmt work with svelte. So we should just have a single a set of frommatting and linting tools so it's easy to contribute and develop plugins.

[@IronMaidzen]

​@@m4saurabh deno fmt works with svelte.... and bun is opensource you can contribute to the formatter. I think in the opensource world it wil never happen that there is a single tool, sure there is a "goto" tool like prettier atm. but it will never be exclusive which i think is a good thing

[@lessko9]

@@IronMaidzen biome was made with the assumption of not supporting svelte and vue out of the box. And now they slowed down a bit to make a support for plugins, just to support these two :///

[@User948Z7Z-w7n]

"Drop-in" node replacement. Reality is never that simple. I'll wait and see you guys adopting it for your own projects

[@whoknows3679]

Yeah same for me

[@javierflores09]

I get the skepticism, however Bun has adoption of almost every node API, excluding the v8 related ones for obvious reasons but these don’t matter for most projects anyway. There are some incompatibilities to be fixed however these are far and between nowadays. Point is, it is doing a pretty great job at holding that promise

[@deckyfx2188]

Been there, Bun is strugling replacing your old nodejs project into bun project, for simple project... maybe, but for more complex project it is a migration nightmare. instead, you have to create a new poject using bun entirely.

[@IronMaidzen]

@@deckyfx2188 not true i switched in 1.1 to bun at work, with two projects one Vue and Vue/nuxt project with over 300 components and it was 4 hours of work for fixes and some "hidden" small problems in the following weeks.

[@johnmarston2474]

@@deckyfx2188 Maybe when it came out, but Bun is almost perfect now.

[@infantfrontender6131]

The benchmark of a "hello world" is insane. Bun can handle 138,053 req/s and destroy all the competitors. Sarcasm

[@Pheeef]

sysadmin & dba here we’ve never experienced postgres being slower than mysql when migrating customers - we’ve actually been able to achieve much better performance with postgres when properly tuned because of the heap architecture

[@BeechHorn]

As an architect who has near zero time to develop - your content has been brilliant to keep on top of web dev/arch. Thank you!

[@francoisguezengar6255]

I understand why they focus on the most used libraries. But it feels like they are targeting a specific aws+react+tailwind type of devs.

[@TaiGroot]

bun's a bundler *again* :)

[@sujayxaradhya]

Finally you guys have adopted Zen Browser 🔥

[@ubuntu_doodle]

How can a project start 2 years ago and be ahead of a project which is a decade old? Is tech debt such a big thing or bun team is just large or largely more funded compared to node?

[@dgdev69]

Not gonna lie they should not market it as drop in replacement. Bun needs more cooking the fact they did not even have npmrc at v1 is not cool.

[@lessko9]

wdym, they do have npmrc support nowadays, whats your problem?

[@dgdev69]

@@lessko9 npmrc is a thing should be supported on v1 not v2 also aggressive marketting as drop in replacement is not cool.

[@lessko9]

@@dgdev69 I guess deno´s aggressive marketing as nodejs replacement is not cool as well Me: whats your problem? You: Bun didnt have .npmrc support!! Me: But now it has, so whats your problem? You: BUT BUN DIDNT HAVE IT IN V1!!! :((( the fuck man

[@DrownedLamp9]

Theo! Playing with Buns live on camera! Bold man.

[@profoundgames_]

you bump into node-gyp also when working on anything more advanced, like stream deck integration or isolated-vm...

[@rogerramjet69]

I tried the docs with the compile option… whilst it compiled ok it wouldn’t even run… I feel its a rushed release.

[@dand4485]

Could be wrong the one advantage of separate components is not all your eggs in one basket. So if bun's "sql" for example is buggy and you've written your app in bun 1.2 ah bug say it worked in bun 1.1, oops so it seems you'll run into a huge headache...

[@johnmarston2474]

You can just downgrade bun, lol

[@Guergeiro]

​@@johnmarston2474 hopefully you don't depend on the s3 package of bun which works in v1.2 but not in v1.1 because the bug was fixed.

[@bariqdharmawan6604]

Please enable translate Theo

[@User-y6m2m]

Pls no, i cant switch to default in mobile

[@jermunitz3020]

I'm starting a new project in SvelteKit or Nuxt or Next which will be containerized and deployed on Kubernetes. It will need npm packages for a buch of things and also good crypto support for passeys. So what do I use today as a bundler and runtime?

[@paw565]

Node, it just works

[@red_dog_]

ohh, we all hate node-gyp 😆

[@hanes2]

it's not open-source. there's not a actual MIT LICENSE file in the repo. They can close it whenever they want- ONly yhe Bun binaries they provide is open-source .

[@nullzeon]

okay I'll admit it, I like the sponsored sections, one of the only channels I don't skip them

[@tambourinedmb]

who is backing bun ?

[@anasvemmully]

should check it out :)

[@quantran4704]

Bun is everything =))

[@whoknows3679]

Which means is nothing

[@quantran4704]

​@@whoknows3679 yes/maybe but cannot be denied that Bun is good option beside Node.

[@The23Chika]

lol the s3 speed difference would instantly deminish on larger files as it just needs a fraction longer to start - what a miserable comparison….

[@olivierk3z420]

Very opiniated tool. Not interested at this level.

[@lessko9]

whats opinionated in bun ?

[@olivierk3z420]

@@lessko9 S3, SQL embeded

[@lessko9]

@@olivierk3z420 you can use uploadthing and other sqlite packages if you want

[@VàngMíChơhơ]

Consiglio per gli appuntamenti: non fidatevi mai di un uomo che non apprezza la gioia di un letto ben fatto🐱