Competitive pros crying about SBMM.. the usual. They always start crying and complaining when they're not going against rank1 new lights and instead they're going against other pros.
@FraDestiny8 ай бұрын
They can add new player protection if they implemented connection based matchmaking. I don’t want new players to be getting destroyed when they are first starting out. Otherwise what is your point?
@jarjarbinks93008 ай бұрын
I'm shit at crucible but used to have fun, now I have to always play my best. Never get to use random guns or try anything non meta if I want to win
@konnorkol62108 ай бұрын
Only way to get better is to play people that are better tho
@jarjarbinks93008 ай бұрын
Load up a custom crucible match with your friends and just play. The amount of fun you can have there is what I used to find from time to time in regular matches. That feeling is gone with SBMM. Happy New Year!@@konnorkol6210
@Lorentz_Driver7 ай бұрын
@@konnorkol6210 Not when you're constantly getting stomped.
@jamieblakely40438 ай бұрын
Always enjoy listening to you chat about things
@hunter47608 ай бұрын
The problem that bungie faces with crucible is that they need more people to engage with it. That's why strikes get more updated and Gambit got abandoned. I think an easier way to improve engagement would be to change to normal 6v6 from control to Team Slayer with a 50 kill limit, it'll be less daunting than an objective game mode and who would try hard in casual team slayer and even if they did the matches wouldn't last long enough for people to get annoyed and leave the matchmaker after. Change comp to 6v6 control/other objective game modes(a proper CTF stlyle mode) making it distinct from Trials. Swap Trials to elimination or have it rotating with control. I would keep the current Checkmate rules and make hand cannons have reduced aim assist and increase the amount of flinch they receive so their not as easy or ridiculously safe to use. We dont really need new maps there is 27 after all we just need more back in the rotation. The biggest problem I see with SBMM isn't necessarily player skill but rather perk potency, E.g. when people first found out about the Immortal no one really cared until we found out about Target Lock. Players with higher rating probably have access to more god rolls/better rolls than those lower rating. I honestly think that say a gold ranked player could comfortably beat a platinum ranked player if they had the same weapons but the gold had better rolled weapons. The only gun that got around this I think was Jade Rabbit. So its tricky issue cause you might be trying to chill out in casual but you're not changing your weapons from top tier with god perks to mediocre frames with ok perks and you want to go against people who's best is the mediocre perks so if bungie was to open the Matchmaker back up I think the amount that perks affect the guns need to be reduced.
@FraDestiny8 ай бұрын
These were some interesting points. I disagree about making comp 6v6 because that would require too much players to form a team. I think three or four is a great number. Trials differentiates itself from comp simply due to its tournament formatting, loot pool, and temporary availability. Your take on bad players having sub par rolls and it being unfair for them to play players with better weapons is interesting. I’ve never really considered that. But I think them playing against better players in a cbmm environment would help them learn the meta quicker and allow them to adapt if they care to. Plus we have weapon crafting now so really good god rolls are much more obtainable than before. I really liked your idea of having the casual 6v6 mode be a shorter clash match. I think 50 might be too low of a score limit though, 60-75 would be better.
@konnorkol62108 ай бұрын
I agree with all your points here except the last word buff you suggested, that would be crazy broken unless it keeps its terrible base range in the alternate firing mode. Also, I wish bungie would listen to your opinions but I’m not sure they take into account advice from smaller creators which sucks :/ awesome video man
@FraDestiny8 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏. Regarding Last word, it goes from 19 meters of range from the hip to 21 meters while ads. Also it has an incredible amount of recoil while ads. I don’t think it would be broken to let it do 68 damage again. And i was calling for accuracy increases only for MnK. It’s already too strong on controller I don’t want them to buff it there
@fadedecho89878 ай бұрын
I agree with almost all your takes except the gamemode one but either way good a video you really went in depth with whats wrong with pve and crucible and all your points were solid
@FraDestiny8 ай бұрын
I understand why you might disagree with the “too much game modes” take. I usually want more game mode variety but the game is pretty dead right now. So I think they should reduce the game modes available until the Final Shape so the player base isn’t split
@jamieblakely40438 ай бұрын
It truly is a wonder who could be making the decisions about pvp. Like you said, they've been deadset on catering to people who would never play crucible regularly even in the best of times for years now. Who could've possibly foreseen how this was gonna turn out in the long run, except for every sentient being who's been passionate and devoted to the crucible for all these years. The state of disarray pvp is in is actually an atrocity, and bungie should be ashamed at what they've done to this beloved side of the game and its die hard community that has kept the game marching forward in its darkest times.
@FraDestiny8 ай бұрын
Yeah hopefully someday they’ll realize that they need to stop catering so heavily to the casuals
@Lorentz_Driver7 ай бұрын
The problem is: You have to make a mode welcoming to new players whilst also keeping current players interested. Bungie isn't doing either but that's how live-service games work.
@bfreeman75508 ай бұрын
Excellent points all around, presented succinctly. So this video has no chance of being considered by Bungo. Haha
@Lorentz_Driver7 ай бұрын
SBMM stomper detected. Opinion invalid. Sorry you can't stomp new lights anymore :/
@FraDestiny7 ай бұрын
You’re a robot
@Lorentz_Driver7 ай бұрын
@@FraDestiny Nope :)
@Berserker568 ай бұрын
You're talking to sub humans who just want money. They do less than the bare minimum and its still somehow getting worse.
@n2p_8 ай бұрын
Why on earth would it be a good idea to have skill based rather than rank based match making in comp? The pvp intern at Bungie can do better
@FraDestiny8 ай бұрын
Believe me I want there to be rank based match making for comp but first they need to get sbmm out of 6v6
@n2p_8 ай бұрын
@@FraDestiny let‘s do both of it please
@grahamspellman24428 ай бұрын
disagree, I really like the 3v3 casual modes
@FraDestiny8 ай бұрын
I don’t dislike those modes. I just think we don’t have enough players to support them right now. The game is going to reach a really low player count in the coming months and I think they should remove those game modes for now