I show that poison tail could be used with burn, but please don't use that for Ronin. Poison tail will destroy your damage. Showing poison + burn was just to show the mechanic.
@bhangdudes568 ай бұрын
please make comparison with status stunned sir wallaby, since holgrehenn had good cc with unlimited stunt to mobs🙌
@immnst-i69 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing this. it's awesome!
@ArkiDoodledoo9 ай бұрын
I'm actually using both of these gears (dancing flame and demon flower lily) for my genos build. I'm also working on my chaotic blade relic to amplify the damage even more. I also use Moonlight flower star + devil squid card to increase the damage even more! stealth mode in ds increase dmg also!
@jondr9 ай бұрын
Nice video! I hope more people will start to utilize burn instead of poison since it doesn't require as much huge zeny investment
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your awesome tips!
@iamurfriend7779 ай бұрын
Heck yeah. Problem with poison is not the zeny cost though. It is the bid to get all the card needed like ninja
@jondr9 ай бұрын
@@iamurfriend777 the cards are billions. Firelord kaho card is 400-500m.
@iamurfriend7779 ай бұрын
@jondr I know poison set cards cost way more. What I am saying is that the ppl who can afford either set would find it hard to bid for the poison set card. Ninja is not often in exchange and there is not alot of them. Chimera was very hard to bid near 500m; of course now that it is a bil it is easier to get if still want
@JackRagna9 ай бұрын
If you look at the notes, I think Neutral and Holy damage is the best. Though they don't provide any status, they are consistent.
@giratina-ragnarokmobileglobal9 ай бұрын
ninja best burn stacker their field also has chance to burn and gives -30% fire reduc(a bit more fire reduction reduced compared to normal burn)
@rafamaestrerodriguez9 ай бұрын
Hi!! Gunslinger is really good with burn with fire rain and the pistol, you do more dmg to burn people, but you need a lot of CD
@anthonyg39422 күн бұрын
Does that mean I can stack LOD card and firelord kaho* cards and the 20% dmg from LOD would still work? I have the poison tail btw.
@Senko13th9 ай бұрын
Which part of Ronin damage is considered StatusDmg? Is it the rune for additional damage to burning targets or status vulnerability passive? Ultimately I want to understand if 'darkness' and 'stun' status effects prevent Dmg to burning StatusDmg from working, because if we look at Orissamrs video, burn is pretty late in the formula and with many 'stops' on the way, which include modifiers such as darkness and stun
@byronscottllanes1369 ай бұрын
Thanks this is very meaningful guide
@Nostalpo9 ай бұрын
SIr how much is ignore def needed for legend instances is it 200 or 210? are more ignore defense will be waste? and are phy. penetration will be essential too or it is just increasing damage we deal?? pls I need basic guidelines for my build. >w
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
You need 200 ignore defense. Going above that gives very little gain. Pen % is important to offset damage reduction and is essential for legend instances. People aim for 70% or so. Also skill damage 50% is ideal too
@Nostalpo9 ай бұрын
@@WobblyWallaby thank you very much 🫡
@thisperson21639 ай бұрын
Are all fire skills of AM considered unique sources of burn? Or just the passive "Alight" ? Is there an interaction between burn status and Stone Curse skill? Can Electrify Field work together with burn?
@michaelcausing8519 ай бұрын
I am a little confused with your video sir. I mean, its not elaborated why burn headgears are equipped along with poison tail. Was it, With the poison tail equip along with the burn mouth and burn face, does it means that the mvp will still be poisoned first instead of burn yet you are just using the ronin skill, burn mouth and and burn face to decrease the fire damage reduction? Thanks in advance for the reply sir wallaby..
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
If you go burn, don't mix poison for Ronin. You'll lose a lot. Ideally don't use poison with Ronin, you'll lose the status damage because poison takes precedence. Someone was just asking if poison tail messes it up.
@causingokkim9 ай бұрын
Thanks bro noted on it and thanks for clarifying it.. yup im also a ronin user like one of your multi jobs..
@causingokkim9 ай бұрын
More power bro
@perkiro119 ай бұрын
So if you combine burn status and poison status, will the HP loss be combined, and will you see 2 red numbers or only one? That includes AM that can add Electrify Field status from Wind element and other different element classes. For example, Thor has a bleeding effect from the wind element, and adding poison and fire will constitute 3 different dmg overtime or will be set as only one?
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
In my previous video I had both burn and poisoning happening at the same time to a beetle. There are two red numbers that show up. So they don't aggregate that together
@Senko13th9 ай бұрын
@@WobblyWallaby I believe chimera* and lily also have separate poison effect in the sense that you can you can see two red numbers show up occasionally, but chimera* is chance when received hit to proc and is not really reliable, there is a vast difference in the duration of the two poisons tho base duration of lily is like 3 seconds whereas base duration of chimera* poison is like 15 seconds, alas I dont think stacking poison procs really helps, not to the degree of burn + fire reduc that you just showed us, thanks WobblyWallaby!
@perkiro119 ай бұрын
@WobblyWallaby I thought in the previous video was mentioned that Poison takes priority, so Thor is a class that wouldn't benefit from having that effect. Just as an example, the damage would be lower.
@drg63219 ай бұрын
@@Senko13thyes lilys poison is totally apart from other poison resource. Like in assassin if you use lily and normal poison skill, you'll see 2 red ticks and if you use skill "virus diffusion" its another tick. Plus new poison 4 ticks in total 😂
@Senko13th9 ай бұрын
@@perkiro11 all status effects stack on the target, the last video was pointing something else out, specifically this ties in to effects that 'do extra damage to targets in X status', most of these modifiers are a part of FinalDmg calculation formula and have no issues, but a select few use StatusDmg calculation formula, this formula is a bit broken because it finds the 1st available status condition to meet this StatusDmg formula and then just stops, and because poison is right at the start of this formula, poison status (and possibly some other status effects) prevent the code from reaching to the point where it checks if the target is burning, and subsequently StatusDmg items that deal extra damage to burning stop working
@ralphleighestella67379 ай бұрын
How much fire reduc does the mvps have for AS15? Im not sure stacking too many burn sources are that effective, unless the fire reduc goes negative.
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
Looks like it is 20% (orissamr.github.io/rom-guides/tables/stats_psr_airship.png). But it is a bit strange since I have seen people trying burn. I will research this a bit more
@Senko13th9 ай бұрын
Airship15 has very low reductions across the board and then just some crazy 99.8% final/ultimate reduc slapped ontop, Ninja would not work as it evidentially does if these reductions wouldn't be able to go into the negative, so I assume all reductions can go negative
@Sajoora29919 ай бұрын
Can we use 2pcs Kaho star card for 60% burn chance? Or card does not stack?
@chriscapili59236 ай бұрын
Can i use burn stacking in CM bolter firebolt?
@caelestigladii9 ай бұрын
Question: What instances is this applicable?
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
WSA, void, oracle, echoing corridor, nif, and VR. Doesn't work in TT, museum, isles, or PSR
@caelestigladii9 ай бұрын
Tyry
@chemical12749 ай бұрын
This burn effect only take place on airship? Ponep and lis not working?
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
Correct ponape, isles, and museum bosses cannot be affected by any status effects.
@nicopianigiani35949 ай бұрын
heinrich can have 4 card weapon, where is the best to use for fire build?
@durk889 ай бұрын
Why do you still need poison tail with burn set? Is it still good without chimera and lod card
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
You don't need the poison tail, I was just showing that it doesn't negate it. I should have pointed that out into he video more clearly
@durk889 ай бұрын
Owh i see, so in summary different burn source can stack fire reduction. On your poison video the poison and burn interaction confused me haha.
@MaxDemian.9 ай бұрын
What about 2 players using the same item, for example, the matchstick, is that considered as 2 sources of burn? Somebody please let me know! Thx!
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
Derianwolf on discord said "just one stack, bc they give the same code number debuff! Only different sources can stack :v "
@wrobe0611719 ай бұрын
theres a new lb farming build any thoughts of making a guide?
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
A new LB farming build? Have a link to the video or a brief description? I am always up to try something new 😀
@wrobe0611719 ай бұрын
Dunno if new or not its that almost no cd arm cannon farm build
@AJ-df9ly9 ай бұрын
will it stack if for example there's 2 ronin using these 3 sources?
@ivanjulesvivas76339 ай бұрын
does burn stacking works on begetter?
@ulyssesshameral25319 ай бұрын
Is this applicable for thanathos?
@3zmoneyto159 ай бұрын
Flk☆ also applies stacking burn??
@WobblyWallaby9 ай бұрын
Yes that counts as another stack. I don't have that card though to test :(
@3zmoneyto159 ай бұрын
@@WobblyWallaby double kaho good?
@3zmoneyto159 ай бұрын
Fire build can build any job?
@amaresw9 ай бұрын
So ..Ronin should 1. Use FLK* card 1 slot instead of Minorous* / Drake* to apply more source of burn status. (but don't forget to find another source of Dmg to large monster enough to activate insight effect) 2. Ask any party member to use Dancing Flame and Magic Firewood for evenmore source of burn status to maximize damage.
@apaa-lagi3 ай бұрын
using 2 kaho star card can stack ?
@CKChannel3 ай бұрын
No..only chances of burn increase...it can't stack with same sources