Burnice is awesome | Burnice First Impressions & Review [Zenless Zone Zero]

[@nyaaalex]

MOCKTAILS, MIXERS, ICE 🗣️

[@Anonimounknown3]

The snacks are real nice

[@nevadachii]

SODA, SOUR MIX, DRY

[@epicdarkraifournineone8006]

I'm LIT you can't deny 🔥

[@Zarko.]

Wherever you want, wherever you need

[@Riptitde777]

Anything that you desire, set it on fire!

[@lancelot2099]

The grace mediocrity arc continues and it saddens me.

[@gab7743]

Only losers hate on Grace

[@Rayhaku808]

At least Burnice is Grace’s best upgrade lol. A bigger upgrade for Grace than she is for Jane. Because Jane is already strong as hell lol. So it allows Grace to brute force Disorder kill sides she isn’t meant to a lot easier now.

[@stevennlinn]

I'm LIT you can't DENY 🔥 BurniceRave

[@imadaga69420]

not surprised at all with the Piper synergy. everyone in reddit be like do I need Yanagi do I need grace no one respects Pipers short onfield and team bufs

[@Akyx94]

Likewise, Piper is the reason I skipped Jane as F2P since they just overlap too much imo. Even if Piper is a sidegrade to Jane, I'd still rather try to horizontally invest my account than to just get an upgraded unit of an existing character. I also managed to get enough mindscapes of Piper during Caesar's banner and those two together are already clearing endgame content for me regarding physical weak enemies even though my Piper isn't fully build yet with upgraded disks. I hold the same opinion regarding Koleda and Lighter even though Lighter also has team buff in his kit.

[@hedgehugs]

​@@Akyx94Me getting Jane so I can run her and Piper on different sides. 🤭 But yeah I highly agree on Koleda/Lighter comparison. I feel like Lighter will be better by virtue of having team buffs, but the current end game content feels like you don't really need it? That and I think Koleda will still be the best stunner in terms of.... Stunning. I feel like it would be near impossible for them to give a limited character that stuns as fast as Koleda with team buffs without them just outright breaking the game (Until they make non-mob enemies that can't be stunned lol)

[@apexcrab]

Every character in this game feels so damn good to play it's crazy.

[@luckyjc8702]

Yeah. The animations are obviously good, but I'm really impressed with the sound design. Like Qingyi's left click spam for example, or Burnice's flamethrowers of course, their sound effect contributes to making the chars feel satisfying.

[@TheJuicyTangerine]

the worst thing about there being such a gap between standard S ranks and limited S ranks is that losing 50/50 feels even worse.

[@newe1555]

Agreed hopefully we can change our opinion soon

[@Kindi001]

the only saving grace for me in standar banner that their E engine kinda usefull stat stick that still god to have, especially Stuner W engine that fit to everywhere. i get Koleda Lycaon Stunner engine, and put Koleda one to Lycaon and Lycaon W engine to Qingyi and hooooo boy, its too strong. i like it l

[@lancelot2099]

@Kindi001 I mean Solider 11s w engine is INCREDIBLE one of the best W engines in the game. It's in direct competition for most of the attack agents best in slot. Koleda's is just an amazing general stun engine too.

[@spark9_]

Last week: skip Burnice This week: I love Burnice

[@puffman06]

the duality of man

[@MultiWouf]

I chanced upon her trailer today, and I thus downloaded the game just to try and get her

[@febbbm2002]

Ngl I find it's kinda funny that she uses a literal flamethrower in a hack n slash game and swings it like it's tonfa lmao. Guns are often tolerable though in such games

[@rhogqr]

PIPERBLOOM BROS WE ARE SO BACK

[@leedevee]

“This is what I wish Grace was, Grace could never”. It’s almost as if Hoyo designs standard 5* to feel worse than limited ones, it’s madness!

[@Mugetsu192]

spraying burnice ex special 2, with m6 lucy cheer buff.. feels so good with the non-stop raining boars.. well I guess same goes for using piper.. that it really enables lucy's personal damage really high.. well at the cost of anomaly damage sharing if you built a crit lucy but.. lucy's personal damage compensates it

[@timogul]

I am LOVING my Burnice/Caesar/Piper team at the moment, and they aren't even optimized yet. Casear makes things a lot cozier because you can just spam their long-hold attacks without having to avoid as much. I do have some energy issues with her, mainly at the start of a fight and if I hold her attacks longer than I strictly need to for maintaining her buffs, but I regret nothing. Also, her Trust missions are next level fun.

[@Urdane7]

Surprised you didn't like soldier11/caeser/lucy, I found it to be a pretty noticeable upgrade to using koleda there.

[@markhui]

True

[@StanTheWoz]

I love Burnice. I have no idea if she's been "that valuable of a pull" but she's fun as hell

[@gab7743]

The Grace and S11 slander will not be tolerated, huge L for the haters

[@Zetejone]

Burnice burnice burnice

[@mugen1119]

burnice and piper with lucy c6 is so fun

[@al8704]

Imma need that specialized just for yanagi Burnice video whenever it's redy sir. Thanks in advance

[@Digbigbombig]

Nah but don’t compare keqing to grace the slander is crazy. Keqing redeemed herself with dendro who knows maybe grace gets a redemption arc in the future.

[@vladdyru]

The gap between limited and standard performance is painfully cringe, but then again, the endgame is adjusted for skill issue mobile players, so not like it even matters.

[@-grumpygold1155]

i like how the content is kinda relatable to those only watching his stream, had i not seen it i probably have no clue wtf is he on about lmao

[@sev559]

I think most hutao mains will love Burnice 🌚

[@brecha2343]

should lucy build full anomaly for burnice teams or you still go crit

[@jstern25]

If you use Lucy's ult Just use crit

[@betulla96]

​@@jstern25 So should you use Lucy ult over Burnice?

[@jstern25]

@@betulla96 yeah

[@markhui]

I wish the content was so hard that jane actually would need a team lmao

[@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn]

Wish granted

[@markhui]

@@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn yup.

[@SmashTheAdam]

Burnice, Piper and M6 Lucy (i had her at M2 before pulling and luckily got 4 more while getting Burnice) is actually my team cause i lost on Jane's banner, the only downside is that Piper's EX leaves her vulnerable to attacks, but it's still my main team

[@jph4166]

BurniceRave

[@ILoveEatingRamen]

@2:10 Would you be able to explain/show the Caesar build for this Burnice, Caser, Lucy team? Specifically what w-engine/drives/substats

[@KikoMakai]

question J: Are you keeping Caesar on Freedom in jane/burnice team or using proto now to buff both burnice and jane?

[@noisyphilosopherkrk522]

........... I'm simply wondering if the dancing is cannon and if so does that mean the aether mutants..... aren't wholly aggressive? that they can still be communicated with?????

[@puffman06]

dude she's so good. As someone who skipped zhu yuan and jane I finally have someone that can do damage LOL

[@thegamewoods8473]

Kinda interested in if Jane is that much of an upgrade for Burnice over Piper. I already built my Piper but was considering Jane on a rerun? Funny enough ive been using Grace with Burnice and the team has been excellent thus far, to the point where I see no need for Yanagi on my account.

[@Lordmaster316]

Of course Jane is better than piper Jane can crit Assault Normally crit dont apply on Anomaly reaction but only Jane can procc crit on Assault

[@thegamewoods8473]

@Lordmaster316 Well yes she's better, the question is if she's better BY ENOUGH of a margin to justify 160~ pulls

[@Lordmaster316]

@@thegamewoods8473 then it depends of you really like her character or gameplay to use that much pull Of you have fun playing the character or simp for the character then its worth it

[@darkdinosaur3079]

​@@thegamewoods8473 to phrase it differently, is 10-20s faster clear worth 160 pulls? Because that's what I see Jane doing in your account. She doesn't necessarily widen your horizontal investment as something like Yanagi would

[@markhui]

​@thegamewoods8473 imo jane is the most broken char in the game. She can clear anything easily alone or with just random supports. If you dont like the janes design or gameplay and you are currently doing fine with piper/burnice team i dont think its necessary to pull for her tho

[@sabotagge9155]

Who should use her ult on a Jane/M6Lucy/Burnice team? Also I would love an updated Lucy guide now that a lot of people have her at M6, like how much attack its enough before moving to fire+crit disk. Is it better to use a dps 4piece on a team without stunner? Should you get her to max level? Should you always ult with her on any team?

[@rain6539]

Rule of thumb with burnice on your team is just using her ult to do the quick assist lol, janes should only be used when you want disorder and assault is really far away

[@mebite839]

How much attack you need depend on Lucy E level, just do the math, its capped at 600 atk. If you have crowned her E, you only need attack disk 6 (which you should be running regardless) assuming max weapon/level/passive even without a single attack substat. Lucy's ult is low key busted.. Two key things to note; First, support ult gives energy to the entire party. Second, animation time is extremely important. Stun/timer ticks down as soon as the 2D animation ends, this means whoever is ulting needs to do more than a normal onfield DPS attacking to justify the time spent. Lucy's ult is low key busted because you can swap as soon as the time freeze ends. So while Lucy's ult itself won't do more than limited attackers ult, Lucy's ult + a DPS attacking on field will beat out just about everything.

[@megadeltsmarcy]

i love her so much! i got her to M3 and do not regret it

[@ayzeee9855]

Yo jstern how good is burnice's engine on Jane is it better than 4* options ?

[@Noggintoggin]

So glad i saved for her

[@Jakeboi90231]

Nice muttenchops dude

[@res6148]

Have you looked into energy regen on disc6 (if you dont have her Wengine)

[@caioengler2440]

Overall, how would you rate her pull value compared to someone like jane and caesar?

[@yanamitheotter]

Can i ask u a bit: Can Lucy or Burnice benefit the 28% crit rate from 4-pc Inferno Metal set when they hitting a burning enemy off-field ?

[@eff-fume]

I am skipping every limited so far for certain characters but oh man the gap in both power and fun between limited and other is horrid lol. Like ofc limited are gonna be better but I wish I still had alternatives for anything. If there were at least more chaarcters, but no. I don't dislike Soldiers playstyle as a whole but yeah she is not great to use.

[@vladdyru]

The power gap is pretty noticeable, but the fun part is completely subjective. For example, I went from liking Ellen to completely benching her because of her godawful sprint CA mechanic, while the character I have the most fun with is Neko. The output will eventually be mitigated by limited supports, but playstyle itself isn’t going anywhere.

[@mysteriousstranger4317]

Piper, Burnice, Caesar/Lucy is so good man

[@WagletonPTallylicker]

If you're trying to be energy efficient here's 2 tips I've found, but I'm looking forwards to a more indepth guide here as most stuff I've found is lacking. 1) Single flame thrower is better than double (if energy is a concern). Double does like 30% more buildup but doubles the energy cost (also can't dodge). But if you tap the skill button again near the end of a single spray you still get the double finisher that does great buildup - so best of both worlds. 2) If you're trying to disorder every anomaly (so alternating burn and shock/assault) you'll be switching to her so frequently that you won't be using up her gauge, so do a basic hold spin - the explosion at the end does good buildup and you get a lil energy back... the only cost is gauge which you're about to regen with the EX. Just remember to dodge cancel it afterwards so you don't go into the double spray. My only issue is now I have 3 great teammates for my favourite damage dealer Piper (I like impactful slow hits) and can't use them all, haha. Oh and no other team I like for the other side. I'm actually tempted to run Burnice carry for a bit just so I can finally ditch S11... Maybe Burnice/Lucy/Nicole on one side then just Piper/Caesar on the other.

[@joverifico]

No mention of grace burnice?

[@oatmeeru]

"four star main dps characters... like soldier 11" 💀

[@mormegil84]

Not sure if I should pull for Yanagi or Burnice. I lost the 50/50 to Rina.

[@joegie]

piper r5 roaring ride or jane r5 weeping gemini for a burnice lucy team?

[@ViniciusFigueiredo19]

Nah, I like S11 a lot. I just wished her M1 was part of her kit so I wouldn't ever need to worry about energy

[@rachelamber5349]

i like her cuz she fits in so many teams but im worried, every limited character so far has been really great and skipping is getting harder and harder

[@ahmedfahmy3425]

5:26 but Keqing is pretty good man...

[@kongcrit]

i use swing jazz and energy regen,, boyy her skill uptime no hesitate to use,, so her source of damage in skill for me,,

[@aarowsilver3873]

Daring today aren't we

[@llsuperproxyll]

With lighter's recent buffs is he gonna be good with burnice?

[@Lordmaster316]

Well any character that can buff Burnice will be good

[@pocalipse3408]

I have been playing S11 since day 1, and I'm able to clear everything on the game without a 5* stunner, so what is there to ask for S11? I think u are overreacting

[@Sarrr1]

same. I’ve fully cleared the past 3-4 shiyu’s ever since i maxed mine out. Made even easier with ceaser so i’m pretty confused as to why he wants a standard banner character to compete with limiteds?

[@koringavp3669]

he said he's overreacting and that S11 is not bad, the reason for this is because he wanted S11 to be a competitive unit for burnice, but she's slightly better/S11 is slightly worse. Which is expected when comparing limited with standard units. I'm happy with my S11 too and as much as like burnice I'll be skipping her for now

[@k5nz15]

> i got s11 for free and clear EZ Clap. > they spent ~160 rolls on a buhnice. WAJAJA?

[@uzshanka1676]

Common Biper W

[@TheTablet314]

Hey, what's with the Keqing slander?!? Xilo C2 Keqing absolutely rocks.

[@coffeemug1012]

1.0 keqing

[@stewie_]

Imagine pulling for Jane when Piper is the GOAT. She's so good with Burnice and Lucy. Fire and Pig bombs? Sign me in!

[@dylankim8593]

Mr streamer how would a piper-burnice-lucy team stack up against yanagi-burnice-lucy? I want to play burnice in an anomaly team but i dont have jane. Would investing in piper now be competitive or should i hold my resources until yanagi comes out?

[@Lordmaster316]

Why not use both Piper for Physical weakness enemies Yanagi for electric weakness

[@stormeagle]

o7 grace

[@lemon68439]

S11/Caesar/Lucy is bait. S11/Lighter/Caesar is the new cope.

[@MrVhatever]

Bros still not aware they are still shilling for jane huh?

[@FPSrad]

Stop pulling sig w-engines

[@WrathfulPride]

I fully built Soldier 11, tried her for a bit, foddered all her drive disks the next day.

[@ua3328]

Crit dps are so dead lmao

[@MrMokey24]

S11 poo poo :(

[@pineapplepawnch523]

never using piper