BURNY CRAMS! 🤩🚌🔥Alpha Update 4.0.2, From the Depths

[@Lathland]

I really did think the fire needed more fire. Then fire crams were added and the world was a better place.

[@BorderWise12]

The world is better and also a lot warmer now for some reason. :D

[@Lathland]

​The DWG were looking far too cold to be fair!

[@GvF11]

What is this, a crossover episode?

[@nazaxprime]

Glad to see FTD bringing the family back together. ❤ o7

[@I-Stole-Your-Toast700]

FIRE²!

[@GMODISM]

Oh wow, good they added it, now only pac is missing fire starting, this is gonna be absolutely terrifying oh lord this is glorious! *Proceeding to construct doom crams*

[@Feraligono]

Wonder if we'll be getting fire suppression of some kind as well. Not that fire is overly powerful or anything - just that it makes sense and exists irl.

[@BorderWise12]

I am hoping for a fire extinguisher, yes. :D

[@undeniablelogic1963]

The devs on the official Discord have said they don't have plans to implement them, but they also don't know if they're wanted / needed just yet.

[@janKoloja]

Smoke might make a little sense for fuel with little to no oxidizer, to choke it out. The problem with that is that the devs wanted lasers to counter smoke better. Ps: try out APS with incendiary smoke, it looks absolutely awesome!

[@ItsJoKeZ]

funny because those are deco parts

[@anamerican1054]

They have to add fire extinguishers if crams get so much power. Like smoke for lasers there has to be a defense.

[@Attaxalotl]

CIWS already works really well against CRAMs

[@TMHedgehog]

I'd love to see water cannons added as defensive fire suppression systems, or offensive systems to help spread EMP.

[@harrycryer5417]

I did not realize that aim point can target fires, that's so cool. That means that you could make Pathfinder-like WWII bombers that light up the desired targets, probably a bit inefficient but ah well. Also, i love you enthusiasm for crams, i finally learned how to use crams after all these years and i now understand why you like them so much.

[@malthemediocre8102]

I also saw that the fires have an IR signature, which makes sense but gives me ideas for IR missles that will aim for the fires and punch through the weakened armor

[@I-Stole-Your-Toast700]

@@malthemediocre8102 Yeah like imagine a super flare heavy vehicle. And then like a lil plane thingy just goes up to it. burns it with max fuel fire. Runs the hell away, and then repeats making the flares effectively useless

[@peterjohansson1828]

The thing I'm curious about is how fire combines with low ap attacks. For example smoke reduces ap of lasers, so what if you combine flamethrowers and lasers to first reduce the ac then let the lasers have their fun. Thumper pacs also have terrible ap (I think 15 but I could be wrong), they could really benefit from lower ac. Idk what do y'all think?

[@jurajsintaj6644]

Lasers now deal flame damage and work of fire resistance ( I think )

[@peterjohansson1828]

@@jurajsintaj6644 neat, I haven't checked out the update so I didn't know that

[@moekitsune]

I was thinking of combining fire with smaller gauge APHE or APFRAG

[@peterjohansson1828]

@@moekitsune The reason I won't do that is cause lams on the nastier campaign crafts tend to be really good at shooting down aps. Personally i quite like purely smaller KE aps so I can pretty much ignore their lams.

[@Cobrax_x]

Might change the posidonia to use fire crams and flame throwers, cause it completely makes sense to use fire on an extremely fast wooden craft On another note, incendiary crams seem most useful against relatively compact craft, but against mostly hollow ships they may struggle to target blocks. Might be better to have a certain radius for block finding, then again incendiary crams are incredibly powerful otherwise

[@nazaxprime]

Hiya BW, I was working my way back osver a week or so ago and then this drops and the algorithm saw fit to give me the shortcut I needed... Yay! 😅

[@riancox782]

2 applications of fire that need to be tested: the first is making use of coal piles (costs 8 mats) by setting them on fire with low intensity flame source to generate cheap controlled fires for aimpoint spoofing and signal processor proof flares, the second is just a gimmick for lols and is that fire acts as a DOT with duration corresponding to fuel and collisions interacts with fires thus using coalpiles to fuel a fire and then spread it to an enemy is possible.

[@littletimelord2755]

I’m so happy that my suggestion for incendiary crams was accepted by everyone. I posted the suggestion on the official discord half expecting it to bue turned down immediately

[@ActualSun]

I’m honestly surprised they didn’t think of it first

[@Madwand99]

@@ActualSun They did. Incendiary CRAMs have been planned from the start of the work on the fire update.

[@SuwinTzi]

Now that we have fires, just hoping for kinetic spalling.

[@R4lf84-Productions]

nah fire was a very good addition to from the depths :) i cant wait to build a fast firing incidenary mortar and LITERALLY MELT THE ARMOR OF THE ROOF OF SOME SHIPS! also Jesus that fire Cram was nasty... I LOVE IT

[@Argonwolfproject]

Ah, we can finally simulate dropping 10,000 pounds of thermite on a battleship.

[@messymessr]

How does the incendiary property interact with other pellet types? Will HE prevent the target from catching fire by breaking the burning block, or will the fire start at the edge of the explosion? Can you use this with a timed fuse to get more reliable hits, or does it require a direct impact to light fires? I expect fragments don’t interact with the mechanic at all, but it would be cool if they did. I’d also like to know if depth pen cram can be built to deliver the incendiary effect to more advantageous locations, or if it’s always better to just skip that and avoid the possibility of over-penetrating and wasting the fire component entirely.

[@BorderWise12]

So far it seems you need a direct impact and the fire will start at the closest block affected by the shell, like how EMP works. And yes, pen-depth incendiaries work. And they're terrifying. :D

[@moekitsune]

8:06 I sawed this boat in half!

[@TheChrush3r]

i hope that damage to the area the fire starts at adds more to the fuel to make frag/ or expl/inc missiles or rounds in general even better would be an incentive to add fire exstinguishers too i suppose either way biiiig fire good :)

[@acompletelynormalhuman6392]

I can't wait to see a fire doom cram

[@CrayvenCarnage]

Would like to see some of these tests against things like Steel Striders or Onyx Watch so we can see how well it performs against ships that are not wood.

[@arne8802]

I love the 'Helloooooo' at every start of a video 😂

[@ChayGrice]

I tried to make a CWIS Flamethrower but I'm not very good at From the Depths. Do flamethrowers damage missiles/CRAM/shells?

[@BorderWise12]

From what I can tell: no. 😅

[@galkoritnik6455]

Chat would napalm X HE combo be good? If the fire tears down armor then the HE could do full damage.

[@BorderWise12]

Yup, that could work!

[@Cobrax_x]

So far seems like he sometimes prevents fires to target blocks, which could change later

[@Garethaxz]

Bungalobill also did a solid vid on fire and laser changes

[@BorderWise12]

Ooh, I need to go watch that! Thanks for sharing that! :D

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

I've given it 8 hours. Plenty of time for someone else to say Burnie Cramders

[@undeniablelogic1963]

Does the speed of a spinner affect the viability of a fire? I feel like it should.

[@BorderWise12]

I'm not sure. Fire does burn faster the faster a craft is moving, so spinners might burn faster? We'd have to test that.

[@ravenschihl4038]

does fire work in space?

[@BorderWise12]

Good question. Haven't tried that yet. 🤔

[@harrycryer5417]

I think it does, I don't think the devs said anything and my space craft have definitely been damaged by fire, but this might be another underwater like situation where it needs oxidizer.