Burton Cartel Bindings Review 2020

[@andreas49er]

Wow dude...what can i say..came here for the review but i would see this beautiful vid again just to relax... thank you so much for this. You helped me make up my mind with this. Happy season dude and stay safe 😎🤙

[@RobGams]

I ride the Cartels as well and they’re a solid binding. No problems with them at all and price point isn’t too steep. 👍

[@SnowboardRobot]

Yeah 100%, not crazy expensive, but with enough features to justify it all.

[@jesusrivera6323]

Thanks for the review, very well nice and informative!!

[@willmoua1]

Great review + actual riding!

[@SnowboardRobot]

Thanks!

[@andreas49er]

@@SnowboardRobot Dude, wanted to ask the compability of the Cartel's (plain) with non Burton boards . Want to pair them with RIDEs TWINPIG. Am i gonna be able to make micro adjustments in order to center the binding to the board ?

[@SnowboardRobot]

@@andreas49er There are three positions on that you can make with the re:flex disc that it comes with - forward, centered and back. As long as you get the right sized bindings for your boots, I have never had a problem centering my boots on the board. It might be a little more difficult if you are in a crossover size boot that fits in Medium and Large bindings, though I would almost always recommend going for the smallest bindings your boot fits in.

[@andreas49er]

@@SnowboardRobot thanks dude ! helped me a lot 😁

[@johanrr4]

The sound is soooo crisp!

[@Matthew-re9pb]

You should try Union Ultras next season ...once you ride with them, you wont want anything else.

[@SnowboardRobot]

Ahh nice, I'll try to get my hands on some

[@bukchoiii]

How much stiffer is this compared to the malavita? I'm consider changing the asym straps to the regular hammock strap so it stiffen up a bit.

[@lesterbro6029]

I have Cartel!!! I like this bidings, simple!

[@michaeljaksa]

Question, with the reflex base plate? How did you feel stance width adjustability was? Are these bindings only Able to move, in heel, toe directions to center up ? Is there ability to adjust nose to tail on insert packs ? To dial in stance widths ? If not did you find setting your stance wasn’t an issue. ? Thanks

[@SnowboardRobot]

There is only the toe/venter/heel positions for adjustment, so they can be a bit more limited. It isn't a big deal for me as I ride pretty much every board with the back foot on recommended, and front foot on the narrowest insert. When I had other bindings I would put them both on recommended and use the disks to narrow the stance slightly. If I had more adjustment with the disk I would use it, but I can deal with the trade off because I like the bindings.

[@michaeljaksa]

@@SnowboardRobot thanks brother I appreciate your insight. I got the new 22/23 mercury deck. And Burton cartel x bindings are ordered. Looking forward to trying the setup. Much appreciated.

[@ogfunk187]

same board+binding as me!

[@pat76ers]

These a good match for the mountain twin?

[@SnowboardRobot]

Yes absolutely, I leave the Cartels on the Mercury (which is very very similar in specs to the Mountain Twin)

[@lesterbro6029]

Great review

[@rjturner010480]

Waiting for these to come today, what Salomon boots do you have ?

[@SnowboardRobot]

Oh nice! I have the Salomon Launch boots, the older black ones are the Boa versions, and the newer brown ones are regular laces.

[@rodrigosanchez4647]

Hi! I own a malavitas and i wanted something more powerful in turns.The problem is footprint of these 2 bindings are the same,in my opinion cartel base should be longer to get more pressure in board edges like stratas for example.What do you think?Are these bindings reactives and easy to turn wide boards with them?thanks!!

[@SnowboardRobot]

I find them to be quite responsive, adding forward lean and the right highback rotation should get pretty much everything you would need out of them. To me the majority of the flex is left to right/nose to tail direction through the disc and the baseplate, rather than the toe to heel, though maybe I don't push them hard enough. Though they have changed this season, the Cartel now has been downgraded and has less features, so the new Cartel X is much more similar to the Cartel I reviewed. If you just wanted super stiff and responsive, also take a look at the Nitro Machine or the Flux XF.

[@rodrigosanchez4647]

Thanks!,im analyze my carve and its true that i use the binding base long section (nose tail),i realice you are in right,but at the end i use transverse section too( toe heel). I will see nitro machine.Thankss a lot.

[@jbamrah1]

What jacket are u wearing. The brown and black one

[@SnowboardRobot]

It's a DC Company Jacket from a few years ago snowboardrobot.com/jacket-reviews/dc-company-jacket/

[@pegas2929]

I ride a us10.5 driver x boots. How should i mount the disk so i don t have toe drag? I have them centered and sometimes i feel like i touch the snow?

[@SnowboardRobot]

The easiest way is to mount the bindings centered, then put the boot in the binding and strap it down. Then flip the board over and look at the base of the board, and see if you have roughly the same amount of toe and heel showing - if you don't, move the disc forwards or backwards to even it out. As a guess if you have medium bindings you might need to go back, and if you have large forwards for size 10.5s. If you are touching the snow with your heels or toes, you'll definitely know it, the board will jump as you hit the boots, and probably slide out.

[@clmfilms8103]

Have you ridden any skate tech bindings, and if so, do you think they are worth it? Edit: also, I'm currently running the burton custom bindings, would the cartels be worth it, or will there be not a huge difference?

[@SnowboardRobot]

Yeah I have been on a few Jones/Now skate tech bindings, I never noticed them doing anything different than any other bindings, and the straps are really hit or miss depending on the model. The Cartels in this video are the equivalent of the current Cartel X. I don't think you will notice too much of a difference upgrading from Customs to Cartels, but you would if you went to Cartel X - you will get a stiffer and much more responsive feel.

[@clmfilms8103]

@@SnowboardRobot have you tried the Union Strata? They are supposed to be super comfortable bindings as well

[@Johnsmithabcde]

Are you in whistler?

[@SnowboardRobot]

Nah I'm in Big White

[@sagivcohenz]

Hey bro I look for all mountain bindings that do it all piste ,off piste , little jumps and stuff I Ride on Bataleon Eviltwin Which I should pick Burton Cartel Or Malavita??

[@SnowboardRobot]

They would both be good, the Cartels are a little stiffer, but if you can get the Malavitas on sale they would be just as good for that type of riding.

[@buuutzz]

Would you pair the warpig rather with the cartel or malavita? Both 23 model

[@SnowboardRobot]

I would go for the regular Cartel bit.ly/3zx3rG1, just because I like the regular ratchets rather than the Double Take that the Malavita has. If anything ever goes wrong with the Cartel, spares are easier to get.

[@buuutzz]

@@SnowboardRobot alright thanks for the fast reply

[@konstantinos.varva1]

hi , I have the 2017 EST Cartels Large , my boots are size 12 but it is usual that in the middle of my ride the toe strap comes off , in which position should I put my toe strap ?

[@SnowboardRobot]

I would check to see that when the toe cap is tight, it is about halfway down the ladder. If it isn't adjust it on the other side to even it out. You could try taking the bindings off and turn it upside down and move it to the back position, that might help help lock it down a bit more. Can you post a photo of what it looks like when it has your boot in?

[@konstantinos.varva1]

thanks for the advice , unfortunately I can’t because my board is at my local mountain.

[@konstantinos.varva1]

it is also the 2016 model (dark red color)

[@dlisch]

The old toe strap was like that. It would fall off on certain boots. Order the new toe strap and replace and problem solved.

[@yamz342]

Can you review your jacket please :) which one is it?

[@SnowboardRobot]

Sure! snowboardrobot.com/jacket-reviews/dc-company-jacket/ It's the DC Company Jacket 2019 - its a sympatex, so really waterproof/breathable, I really like it.

[@LukeSimpson]

I’m deciding between these or the Flow Fenix. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

[@SnowboardRobot]

Yep - 100% get the Cartels, if you are really wanting something quicker to get in and out of, then I would go for Step Ons rather than Flows.

[@LukeSimpson]

​@@SnowboardRobot I appreciate the advice, thank you. Do you not like Flows so much? I love the thought of the ease of entry, but I also had a great ride experience on an older set of Cartels on a friend's board. Have yet to actually ride on some Flows.

[@LukeSimpson]

@@SnowboardRobot Just ordered the Cartel X 🤷🏻‍♂️🤙🏻🍕

[@suont05]

does the cartel works with 2x4

[@SnowboardRobot]

The re:flex disc uses the 4x4 pattern, but it will work on 2x4 boards (pretty much everything).

[@jjss2395]

First