I'm surprised Millbank bags aren't used more often in the states, especially amongst the outdoorists. I had only heard of them a few years ago, but use it whenever I begin the water purification process. They save wear and tear and lets the Sawyer filter I use do it's job more effectively. Really a no brainer.
@cripplers82 жыл бұрын
Yep. When I got one I hadda explain it to a bunch of my prepping buddies. It’s not a common piece of kit here.
@ianandrews15112 жыл бұрын
Normally its because want to drink straight from the filter.
@robshirewood50602 жыл бұрын
Simple DIY job for the old bag which is still useable.....get a small karabiner, longer suspension cord, plastic or nylon grommet kit and repair it. I have used two Millbank originals for years and they are still going strong. One is carried in my smock pocket and the other in my water bottle pouch. Greencraft, Ian , made a similar idea of parachute material which is well worth looking at on his videos, and they also work. I use the Millbank's and Greencraft's ideas to save my Sawyer and other filters and extending their life. Having both provides options that will save life and prevent illness, and are versatile. My water collection kit also includes plastic tubing (clear see through), sponges, large capacity syringe, ziplock bags, plastic sheet for solar or bush still, water purification tablets assorted, an Iodine solution dropper, potassium permanganate, nylon and plastic bags with eyelets and cords to carry or hang ziplocks off the ground for storage of water before filtering, hanging a ziplock in a plastic bag also allows UV light to work on the contents before filtering. The tubing is for collecting water that is running between rocks where you cannot get a hand in, crevices and suchlike, the syringe provides the suction (there is a military kit similar), the sponges can be used to collect dew, or small water sources, i also have large and small syringes for wound irrigation (you can also use plastic bags for that too) in my medical and first aid kits. Then of course you can carry a camelbak too with cleaning kits. Might seem like overkill but i have been in places in UK where water was scarce and very hot days, dehydration, heatstroke etc threatened, not to mention frozen conditions and suspect water sources and Millbank's have their use there too. Love your video coverage, spot on every time. Water purification techniques may well be vitally necessary for everyone to learn in the not too distant future, alongside food shortages and the rest of the manure we are being threatened with by those in power and their mismanagement. Self-sufficiency and sustainment right down to water collection at home and growing your own food, and plants need water too. ATB, stay safe, sorry this is so long.
@garycothren12942 жыл бұрын
I've contemplated a millbank purchase for awhile. There's always room for one more purification device I reckon. Never been a fan of the fetal position and other colorful side effects of nasty water. Great video!
@earlshaner44412 жыл бұрын
Hi from Syracuse NY USA brother thank you for sharing your adventures
@jonbridge80642 жыл бұрын
I have a similar one called the Brown bag, which has the wider opening and long lanyard/lace. it has the fill line stitched in but didn't come with a karabiner (which I added) or a waterproof bag. I find it works well. Actually looking at it now, it's probably midway in width between your narrow millbank bag and your new one
@taffdavies352 жыл бұрын
Great bit of kit, used one extensively in Canada.
@BWORKZ_SouthWales2 жыл бұрын
Millbank bags are vital. Add my grayl and have no worrying about water
@michaelwhittaker54322 жыл бұрын
I have used a Millbank for years ,they are ` bomb proof` cant speak for this new one though it looks fantastic the problem with the old style you show was that made many people dislike them was you need to pre soak them they have to be wet through to work if you didnt know about this trick they did not filter properly and they took for ages - another great film
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, this is Elvis from Forest Fundamentals. Thanks for all the great comments! The bag is available at - www.forestfundamentals.com cheers!
@Mike-kr9ys2 жыл бұрын
A really good idea, and the improvements by Forest Fundamentals bring this old idea into the 21st century. Much better than using a t-shirt or a sock to pre-filter your drinking water. I ordered some - am betting they work just as well in the US as they do in the UK!
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-kr9ys thanks for your order! 👍👊
@normanscout18642 жыл бұрын
Well I never thought you could make these bag's any better how wrong can you be I will be investing in one in the very near future thanks for the information on a piece of kit that could and (probably will save your life)excellent video nick thanks for sharing
@cripplers82 жыл бұрын
I just got the new model today here in the US that I ordered right after you posted this video and I’m very impressed with it. Your video gave Forest Fundamentals a bunch of business from the communications I had the owner who was very professional. I would recommend this to anyone.
@pronetowander21532 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson for using the Millbank bag have a good day sir.
@marksadventures38892 жыл бұрын
Always a go to if in the doo-doo. I do have one of the originals. Good update. As you will know under jungle cover light is very low so seeing what you're doing without using torches is hard and when it's peeing down worse, plus you're hot and sweaty. The new design is a game changer there.
@cripplers82 жыл бұрын
I’ve never considered owning a Millbank bag till I started following you especially being in the US where most guys haven’t used them. I got 1st last year & appreciate your vids! Cheers from Pennsylvania…..
@baronedipiemonte39902 жыл бұрын
Same here. Nick has used these on several occasions, as have other Bushcrafters in the UK. After this I'll be online looking. Update... I'll be ordering from Great Britain
@cripplers82 жыл бұрын
@@baronedipiemonte3990 I ordered mine from a shop in GB and it got over here quicker than domestic mail gets delivered lol
@DarkCity4Real2 жыл бұрын
Having already owned this exact bag I do agree with you on the positives it offers except for one thing I had wrong on mine. I had left the bag to soak and upon filling it with water (not squeezing it or encouraging it to filter faster etc), the water ended up dripping from different points on the bag and never fully ended up dripping as expected from the very end point. I felt like I was only getting the best part of 70% of water coming out of the bag and into the container etc. That's one thing I preferred with the old design was the stitching on the outside created that channel where water would run down to the very end point. These bags have the seems more on the inside and sort of takes that away from it. Just my personal experience and may not represent everyone else's.
@toddshook17652 жыл бұрын
I found a canvas tool pouch at my local hardware store for few dollars and had my wife reconfigure it to mill bank bag and works. I am going to order one that you demonstrated. Like the new design. Thanks
@freddyoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Ace tips I've actually got one but not used it yet cheers nick
@johncrouch89882 жыл бұрын
My standard filter has done me proud for years now with no complaints. I’d already got a bag to put it in after use and a longer piece of para cord and carabiner for easy use. I don’t think I’ll be going out to buy a new one ☝️. Good “how to use” video for new comers to the Milbank. 👍🏴
@marcel7572 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m always looking for a bombproof option for getting water. I use a filterback to prefilter water before i put it in my lifesaver waterfilter. Keeps the filter much cleaner and therefore last longer. The idea that I could use this bag and then just boil and drink the water really gives me options when i want to filter water for my family in the outdoors. I can really upscale this proces this way. By the way… i can see me using this bag for keeping small items in my backpack. Dual functionality is always a plus.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Yeah mate! The bag also makes a great tinder and utilities pouch!
@darrenfraser51322 жыл бұрын
I own a Millbank bag dated 1944, eyelets included
@alistairg677011 ай бұрын
I've got one of these that I've paired up with a Savotta 10 litre water collection bag that rolls up nice and small. Then I can collect the water and take it nice and relaxed to my chosen spot. Then I soak Milbank in the collection bag and scoop and treat at my leisure!
@Rainbow.Rising Жыл бұрын
I added jungle knots to the cordage that the bag hangs from as an extra aid if other methods of securing the Millbank to a tree/bush were not available.
@GettinReal2 жыл бұрын
After previous video demonstrating the Millbag use this has now become my top priority of kit next to a really good knife Thanks again.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Available at www.forestfundamentals.com mate!
@GettinReal2 жыл бұрын
@@elviscloss8913 The page 404'd yesterday and wouldn't load from menu neither ; ( Will check again. Thanks.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
@@GettinReal hey mate, it should be working now :)
@GettinReal2 жыл бұрын
@@elviscloss8913 Niiiice! Ta : )
@colinbrown40082 жыл бұрын
Ooh a bit of a mare 😂 Looks like a decent piece of kit.
@susanp.collins7834 Жыл бұрын
Nick, I would sew a small net under that Millbank Bag so that you could suspend your bottle/cup under it and not stand there holding it.
@jimstillwell46682 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I wish we could get here in the USA. Very cool item. Thanks again
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, we post to USA - postage for the Millbank Bag costs around £8 ish. I know it's pretty expensive but it is fully tracked.
I just use my sock. Gives a nice taste of blue cheese as a bonus.
@michaelnowak23402 жыл бұрын
LOOKS LIKE A GREAT ITEM!!!!
@davidjacobs8282 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video .thanks .
@h.bsfaithfulservant41362 жыл бұрын
Good review. Thanks Nick 👍
@ryanwisbey33872 жыл бұрын
That's the best milbank bag I've ever used. You can even add more filtration to it sand charcoal material layers etc. Works everytime.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your order mate! Glad you liked the bag!
@matthewvelo2 жыл бұрын
At first glance, I'm guessing that the painted/printed area is to tell you at what water level you can start collecting water from, after the outside of the bag has self-cleaned during filtration. My old, ah, 'borrowed' Australian Army one had a line across the bag for the same purpose. It certainly looks like a good update on the classic design and will try and source one to replace my ageing relic. It's been in use for a number of years and has worked rather will in conjunction with a Katadyn filter on fast hikes or water boiling on longer adventures. Thanks for another great video Nick.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Yeah! The line is acts as a drain line - it shows you where what level to drain the water to before filtering. Letting some water out before collecting ensures all of the muck on the outside of the bag has been washed off and none of this makes it into your container!
@corleyoutdoors28872 жыл бұрын
Informative and beneficial video! Thanks
@EdwardHurst23232 жыл бұрын
I think I’ll have a go @ making some I’ll send u one after iv made it along with some other treats x
@trevorday79792 жыл бұрын
Another dare I say “bottler” Nick🤣 Great vid and bit of kit. Always hard to turn out the issued ones for cleaning. Just been reviewing Her Majesty’s Platinum Jubilee celebrations. Quite impressive and proud to have served as part of the Commonwealth Forces here in Aus. Albeit quite some time ago now. Keep up the great work mate. 👍🤝🇦🇺
@jory67812 жыл бұрын
I have been looking at getting one just didnt know which one to get till now.
@daphneraven67452 жыл бұрын
Nice review. It’s one thing to Take a manufacturers word for things, but it’s quite another to get a review from somebody who uses these things in the field and he’s not affiliated with the company.
@kevinstrong16392 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick , how will I know where the water is oxygenated ? and may I say, another great video . Thank you for sharing your knowledge. 👍
@danqrl2 жыл бұрын
Where it's flowing it should be oxygenated buddy, if it's just a still pool it can become stagnant
@kevinstrong16392 жыл бұрын
@@danqrl thank you, I thought so but just needed that extra confirmation 👍
@markpavey79842 жыл бұрын
Fast moving water.
@kevinstrong16392 жыл бұрын
@@markpavey7984 thanks Mark 👍
@markpavey79842 жыл бұрын
@@kevinstrong1639 where the water bubbles and is white etc etc. the turbidity re oxygenates the water by sending air through it. Hence slack calm water doesn’t. Stay safe.
@neanderthaloutdoors92022 жыл бұрын
Still using my old man's 50's issue Millbank bag in conjunction with my water filter, it's a diamond bit of kit that alway's work's, and adding grass, sand, charcoal can only improve it's filtering capabilities.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure! The millbank is a proper solid piece of kit!
@mattyp802 жыл бұрын
Hiya Nick, would be interesting if you compared Neil's own bag from Greencraft to see what you think!?
@MadDogSurvival2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review as always! Nice job brother 👍🏽👍🏽😎👌🏽
@arthurwestcott54372 жыл бұрын
I had been familiar with millbank bags for some time. Always considered them a useful, life saving piece of kit. But I was put off using them after seeing what Para Mortars did with them in Sangin. :D
@soggz42462 жыл бұрын
It’s a age old winning piece of kit, Nick. Used one many times, as a kid. I like the new improved version, though.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Glad you like em!
@davejenx2 жыл бұрын
its worth it just because the wider mouth makes it easier to clean . I remember being issued the mankiest had its own eco system one
@3nertia2 жыл бұрын
Good video! A millbank bag has been on my radar for awhile but they're so damned difficult to find in the US. When I can find them, I can't budget for them and when I do have the budget, I can't find 'em lol
@finger3512 жыл бұрын
I do like a good sticker, I also like a good milbank bag, to the point i bought one.
@scotty57172 жыл бұрын
Went straight to amazon to get one... Out of stock and unsure if it will be restocked. 🙄.. As usual, excellent honest review.👍
@scottfreh58842 жыл бұрын
Available on Ebay, just ordered 2
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, apologies they have just sold out on Amazon but are still available at www.forestfundamentals.com cheers!
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
@@scottfreh5884 thanks for your order mate!
@CaliforniaTravelVideos2 жыл бұрын
@@elviscloss8913 Many thanks - couldn't find on Amazon or ebay, while your link was great and no shipping charges to USA
@kevinmcalpine45212 жыл бұрын
If you're counting the pennies, you can make one out of the leg of an old pair of denim jeans. Just check for holes, then cut it to size, and chop the bottom seam off. Then get someone to fold the end and sew it with a sewing machine. Rough and ready but it will work. That's the fancy version. You cold just knot the end instead of sewing.
@willjohnson12732 жыл бұрын
Just ordered 2 from company direct as none at amazon, have an original from my days in govt service too,
@mivo72402 жыл бұрын
And thanks to this video they are sold out. Great customer service from Forest Fundamentals though and I'm happy to wait a couple of extra weeks for something made in-house rather than sourced from overseas.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
haha yeah! Everything went a little crazy after the vid. Got Nick to thank for that!
@theirishoutdoorcook12072 жыл бұрын
They are now retailing at £26.00 on the Bushcraft store in the UK.
@germanprepper212 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Would you use it instead of a modern lifestraw or consider carrying both? I see the advantage in collecting for cooking. It will remove dirt but you must boil the water to be safe. You might want to explicitly state that for newbies.
@frankalvarez73872 жыл бұрын
it is a good thing in the long run.. you can use it to filter the water and then drop a tablet to purify it or 4-5 drops of 10% betadine (for 1l) or many other ways
@germanprepper212 жыл бұрын
@@frankalvarez7387 True, certainly a good backup or as you say for longer term use.
@cruachan11912 жыл бұрын
Don't know about the lifestraw, but the Sawyer filters can be a problem in low temperatures and can split if they freeze, so whilst they are easier to use in that it's a single filtration and the water should be safe to use they don't work everywhere all the time. Also you don't have to boil, purification tablets like the Oasis ones are very cheap and very light and don't require fuel to use - in fact the British military 24 hour ration packs include 6 of them. They purify 1 litre, which is the size of the Osprey water bottle shown in the video.
@germanprepper212 жыл бұрын
@@cruachan1191 A Lifestraw is just like the Sawyer filters. Good point on freezing. The bag does seem to offer a great alternative or backup.
@germanprepper212 жыл бұрын
@FukTheGender Agenda Yes, agreed 👍
@GAUROCH22 жыл бұрын
...I will stick to my old Millibank...the colour is nicer, but I admitt that the wider mouth will speed the filling-up! Thank-you!
@MarkFidell2 жыл бұрын
So on the 5 Jun 2022 when this video was published the bag was @3:11 £14.95. 5 days later and it's now on the site at £16.50. I know everything going up in price, but this is crazy.
@jackpark46462 жыл бұрын
I purchased one of the helikon tex millbanl bags, I've not had a chance to use it yet but I hope it's as effective as this one.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
It should be mate! Helikon Tex make some great gear!
@richarddukeshire2 жыл бұрын
I followed the links for both the new and old millbank bag. Amazon page opens to filters but no millbank bag for old one. Link for new bag says "page can't be found".
@woodsmanrich11512 жыл бұрын
Never even heard of this until now, nice one mate. So I presume you would just need to boil it next and happy days?
@darriendastar39412 жыл бұрын
LOL. It's weird. Even though I have absolutely no need for one of those, it's such a beautiful piece of design that I want one!
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you like the design!
@TheSaneHatter2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE FOR ALL IN THE US: I've discovered that these bags *can* be had on our side of the pond, and that at least one respectable survival school/outfitter has been selling them for years. (Probably not the new model yet, though.)
@3nertia2 жыл бұрын
Which? Is it Self Reliance Outfitters/The Pathfinder School?
@allenharris10692 жыл бұрын
I use one regularly. Seems like a decent bit of kit. Bit bulky compared to the original. A zip lock bag and a longer length of paracord and your only down a sticker.
@kennethwilson86332 жыл бұрын
I think when you pre soak the bag it should be inside out so you can keep dirt and debris off the outside. You don’t have to fill it you can put your hand inside and hold it down or grab the bottom and hold it most of the way underneath the water. If the outside is kept cleanish your cup will be cleaner. Do like the new one seems like a good piece of kit at a fair price. Have fun stay safe.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
Yeah great point! We advice you let the water drain out so that it meets the black/white transition line before collecting for this very reason - to make sure there is no muck on the outside of the bag before collecting!
@CarlosWilkie2 жыл бұрын
I stay in New Zealand. Where can you buy these from?
@albertknight19712 жыл бұрын
Defo gonna get one Nick, the olde mother in law's double D cups are getting a bit mingy. 👍
@Dingleowl15822 жыл бұрын
👌 👍
@AntonJenkins-x3i9 ай бұрын
We’re can I get one these
@boxcartwilly2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@shawnr61172 жыл бұрын
It would have been better if they had added the ability connect a dirty water bag for a filter , even just some attachment loops to let you rig your own system would help make it better
@willadams62172 жыл бұрын
The link to the old bag goes to a Browns millbank bag, but it doesn't look like you're using a Browns bag in the video? The Browns bag uses the same spec fabric as the original Military (green) issue ones which is a much tighter weave and finer filtration (slower too) than the old bag you have in the video.
@saswildman2 жыл бұрын
Not bad for a small shower. 👍
@warwickshireoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
That looks very good. 🏕
@orraman54272 жыл бұрын
Living in the Highlands I don't care about consuming peat in my water; once it's boiled I would class it as one of my five a day.
@budwilliams65902 жыл бұрын
It would be just like drinking Scotch but with no alcohol.
@orraman54272 жыл бұрын
@@budwilliams6590 I lived for years with a water supply coming straight out of a burn on the hill behind my house.
@debbiedawsonpeterdawson32512 жыл бұрын
Would also make a good foraging bag.
@maryhairy12 жыл бұрын
If not used one as a normally boil or filter
@kusocm2 жыл бұрын
Not £14.95 anymore, now its £16.5, I guess a lot of people clicked on the link =)
@Philo682 жыл бұрын
Puritabs and drink through your teeth Royal! Good enough for the Pongos good enough for anyone.
@budwilliams65902 жыл бұрын
Link is bad. I'd probably buy one if the link worked.
@elviscloss89132 жыл бұрын
hey mate, this is Elvis from Forest Fundamentals. The bag is available here - www.forestfundamentals.com
@michaelnasser86972 жыл бұрын
Tried Google and it still isn’t working right. Would be an excellent piece of gear.
@budwilliams65902 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnasser8697 I got mine ordered.
@margueritemitchell18292 жыл бұрын
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@MrDkgio2 жыл бұрын
What a faff, sawyer mini filter, far easier than a mill bank bag plus you still need to purify after mill bank…
@SamUploads4202 жыл бұрын
'literally years' lol wow
@bustersbashers22802 жыл бұрын
I don’t need to hit the button to “Stop Adds”, I just Don’t Watch your videos 😂, oh and I “Unsubscribed”.. Simple 😊