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Bushnell Launch Pro vs Mevo Plus - Drastic Difference!

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@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r 6 ай бұрын
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@kevinkuhl6710
@kevinkuhl6710 11 ай бұрын
When set up properly and directions are followed the mevo plus has worked for me flawlessly with a RCT ball. Love it!!
@troyrambo6804
@troyrambo6804 Жыл бұрын
I've owned both. I sold the MV+ and bought the Bushnell, primarily for 3 reasons. The Bushnell is easier to setup and start using on a range. The Mevo + takes more space which is not always possible for me and it's a hindrance to my goal of having an internal sim. Lastly, the Mevo I had had issues with shutting off, bad reads and missed shots. I do not have this issue with the Bushnell. I will also say that both units seem pretty darn close up to and around 200 yards. Over 200 yards I question both units accuracy. Even using the dots on the club and or ball. I do really like the Bushnell for irons though. Really has helped me become a more consistent striker of the ball. Working on impact. The software price is high. IN my first year base subscription. I'll eval after this year how I want to proceed. Eventually I'll likely purchase the full software package unlocked when I can build my sim space.
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
I think you will enjoy if you start using indoors with sim software. The BLP really does everything for that very well: putting, chipping, and takes little space. Enjoy!
@crishi7459
@crishi7459 Жыл бұрын
2 years with my Mevo Plus & haven't ever had an issue with draw or fade spin reads & I work the ball a lot but environment & setup are definitely crucial for Mevo Plus. IMHO you left out the most drastic difference of all. $800.00 per year for the gold sub to Bushnell is pretty pricey. 😬
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
Ha! You’re right about that. And about double the base price.
@firstname2072
@firstname2072 Жыл бұрын
@@user-wz1ux3uv2r and worse portability to range. I like the launch pro but mevo if setup is correct just blasts it out of the water
@clints8888
@clints8888 Жыл бұрын
blasts it out of the water????? what r u smoking
@firstname2072
@firstname2072 Жыл бұрын
@@clints8888 it does. It’s within 1-2% of a track man 4 and easier to bring to range etc. only downside is if you’re indoors and don’t have space. Bushnel is way more money, doesn’t suit left and right handers if playing together and has subscription fees
@clints8888
@clints8888 Жыл бұрын
@@firstname2072 that’s just not true. The launch pro is easily better than the mevo, And it’s better for portability at the range.Just look at everyone’s reviews
@golffe
@golffe Жыл бұрын
Nice video, just goes to show the set up is key with the Mevo Plus, With the putting the mevo has to be totally on the same level as ball rolling to the screen also you have to have the ball 6 inch's out from where you hit the ball with driver and irons and a foot back towards the mevo, so if you hit your irons from 8 feet ball to mevo you hit the putter 7 feet ball to mevo. I love the mevo and have the perfect set up for it to work, But I do think if i had the money I would go for the GC3/Launch pro.
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
It definitely takes some tinkering!
@michaelhill2933
@michaelhill2933 Жыл бұрын
This is odd, ive never reslly had a problem getting my draw to read on mevo, like the other comments said, i think the unit is off alignment a tiny bit, makes a big difference on mevo if its not perfect, u wouldnt thinknitvshould, but its that finicky
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
That’s certainly possible. I used the alignment in FS golf to overlay on top of the BLP alignment stick to try and get both of them on the same alignment.
@ppierpont
@ppierpont 6 ай бұрын
Watching several of these LM videos can be maddening! Every time I want to say "But what about _____?" In this case, I would like to see the comparison moved outside, where we could compare with the actual ball flight. For the short term, I will use whatever device outdoors at the range more often than indoors with a simulator. I've had a basic Mevo for several years that I want to upgrade for my data points. I love the ease of setup of the BLP/GC3, but I love the lower price and better data points for the Mevo+. If the BLP/GC3 had face impact data for its price point, I would probably jump on that immediately. But it doesn't - and it's still more expensive! All these reasons contribute to not making a purchase decision. . .
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r 6 ай бұрын
I know what you mean. There’s not one that’s perfect in every way and they all have trade-offs. You just have to pick what fits your needs best. It might be tough to compare the two outside since the Mevo+ measures the ball flight and the Foresight only measures impact. You’re pretty certain to get different results due to wind. That said it still may be interesting to see and I might do it sometime soon.
@Byrne_G
@Byrne_G 11 ай бұрын
I have found that Mevo+ putting works best when the putting surface is extremely flat ( no ball bounce at all ) and can track the ball for a smooth 8 feet
@jedimark5260
@jedimark5260 Жыл бұрын
Flightscope says you should be 5-6 feet from the mevo+ for putting, so I hit from 8 feet and putt from 6 feet. It will never work with the that valley you have between the device and the hitting mat.
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
The setup card included with the device shows putting from 7ft mevo to ball so that is what I did in the video. I know plenty of people find better success with different ranges (even for full swing). I agree the No-reads are from the setup and yes the mevo should be on the same surface height as the ball with no valley in between. I had old mats there to create a runway from the mevo to my hitting mat but the height was maybe 1/4” to 1/2” lower than my hitting mat. Apparently that’s all it takes to have problems. At the end I propped the mevo+ up even more on the little mat which did create a valley but I was just experimenting to see if I would get a read at all. The bottom line is if you want to putt with mevo+ you need one continuous surface height from your mevo+ to the screen and it needs to be pretty exact.
@PaulTorley-gq1bn
@PaulTorley-gq1bn 3 ай бұрын
Mevo wont work because of the 2 different surfaces. If you put the putting mat beside the area you are hitting from even if its off centre it will work.
@jrozco9225
@jrozco9225 Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue between the two is the BLP doesn’t show impact location unless you pay an extra 15k for the quad. While the mevo+ includes it in its $1500 upgrade so now sure which to get. How’s the putting on it now? Were you able to fix it? Also I’m completely new to golf but want to improve as much and as best as possible so springing to get one of this sim Launch monitors. Keep it up!
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
There is a ton of debate online (and here in the comments) about the Mevo+ and you will get all kinds of opinions about it. I love that it gives you everything for a fixed price without subscriptions. I love that it includes e6 and that it's supported for GSPro. I do think it has big issues with reading spin axis indoors which causes inaccurate shot shapes as seen in the video. That's kind of a deal killer for me personally. I have repeated the experiment using lasers for alignment during setup and saw the same result. Some folks say they putt with Mevo+ just fine but I think they are the minority. Most will say just use AutoPutt and don't bother trying. I haven't messed with putting since this video but I might try again as I tweak my setup. Are you looking to use GSPro and/or use a gaming PC for simulation at all? If not, the Skytrak+ can be a complete solution on an iPad and I find the data to be pretty accurate however, I am seeing that no-reads are a problem. At this time it does not work with GSPro but might soon. If you are going to buy a gaming PC for simulation the BLP is the way to go. Putting and chipping are extremely accurate as well. The launch monitor itself is significantly better than both Mevo+ and Skytrak+. It basically is a GCQuad with less data for a fraction of the price. Cheaper launch monitors can provide more data but the accuracy will always be in question. The iPad app (FSXPro) isn't great so you will get much more out of it with a gaming PC, running GSPro and/or FSX Subscription. That's my take, hope it helps!
@Timanator
@Timanator Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and great swing!
@blackandwhitemusic777
@blackandwhitemusic777 Жыл бұрын
After using the Launch Pro for a week it actually seems like the sidespin is rather exaggerated. My daughter's natural draw has turned into a consistent hook. This has not been a problem for her normally. My draws and fades seem frustratingly stronger than in real life. Maybe it's me but it makes me doubt the accuracy. I don't want to be fighting something that isn't really there. Do you find it exaggerated over real ball flight on the range? What could be the possibility that the unit I received is inaccurate? - I wish I could be sure.
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
I had the same feeling especially after using the mevo plus for almost a year. As you can see there is a difference. I have a hard time trying to figure out how close it is to my "on course" shots because there's so many other factors like wind, lie, etc. I have a natural draw but of course I hit every shot shape by accident over time. The truth is all launch monitors measure a few things and then put those measurements into an algorithm they created to estimate what the shot will look like. I have no idea whose software is closest to reality. I don't think it's likely you got a bad unit. Indoor swing syndrome is a possibility as well. You swing differently because subconsciously you feel a little cramped inside. You might be closing the face and turning a little quicker rather than extending your path down the target line. I'm no teaching professional but I've struggled with that a little bit. Just my thoughts...
@blackandwhitemusic777
@blackandwhitemusic777 Жыл бұрын
@@user-wz1ux3uv2r Really good thoughts here, particularly about the "indoor swing syndrome". My only additional thought after my comment above was, being that the spin rate is calculated right at the point of contact, does the algorithm take into full account how a ball flying through the air loses spin and begins to straighten out. We've all had that shot that starts off fading but then straightens out. I wonder if anyone has seen this effect with the Launch Pro algorithm. There is no way to fully simulate reality. Thanks for your thoughts - we seem to think alike.
@MitchGrinter
@MitchGrinter Жыл бұрын
​@@blackandwhitemusic777 they factor spin decay, which is that a ball will slow it's spin rate as it flies. Don't know if they're able to model wind effect in spin or not. Skytrak used to not do spin decay and showed exaggerated shot shapes until an update changed their algorithm
@calvinb3243
@calvinb3243 5 ай бұрын
The blp seems a lot better for gspro for chipping and putting. Also , seems to be better more accurate spin numbers. With that aside, how’s do they compare when comparing swings and club data and also video for reviewing shots? I’m stuck between the two . I’m trying to upgrade from my skytrak. Thanks
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r 5 ай бұрын
The mevo+ will give you more data like face to path and low point for example. It also allows you to use your phone or tablet as swing cameras within the FS Golf app using the FS Multicam app - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIalhWeQis-YY9k although you won't get great slow motion. I've never had a problem with any of the club data. The BLP is just as accurate as a GCQuad (as good as it gets) but you do need a single sticker on each club for any club data. You can add swing cameras within FSX 2020 or FSX Play and you can also use your iPhone and the ivcam app if you want instead of dedicated swing cameras: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apmWhKijeMyVf8k I generally tell people to go with Mevo+ if they want something they'll use outdoors a lot and indoors as the secondary purpose. BLP is top of the charts for indoors and nothing wrong with it outdoors except its not tracking the ball flight like radar does. It always depends on what's important to you personally but as far as simulation golf goes there are lots of people that go from mevo+ to BLP and really none that I've heard of the other way around. If want more advice feel free to reach out: bobby@friendlygolfer.com
@stefanoloretto4554
@stefanoloretto4554 2 ай бұрын
you should do the comparison on the range to verify whoch is more accurate based on visual ball flight
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Ай бұрын
I could try but the environment/wind isn’t accounted for with BLP as it only sees impact. Mevo+ will track the actual ball flight outdoors. Since one is radar and the other is camera-based they’ll be tracking 2 different things.
@vikingsfan9049
@vikingsfan9049 Жыл бұрын
You are going to have big differences in certain data parameters like club path. Flightscope measures at touch, Foresight measures before the ball, Trackman measures at full compression. So, numbers like angle of attack, club path, face to path etc will be different. As for the shot shape. They should be fairly similar, but even at comparing both at sea level, they both have different algorithms on trajectory. I have A flightscope X3, Quad, and BLP. BLP is indoor sim for myself and the Quad and X3 are teaching indoor with quad and outdoor X3 and also rent them out for hour blocks. I trust the foresight algorithm shot shape and numbers better indoor and The X3 is better for outdoors being it's tracking the entire flight 400 yards in the air before it would start to calculate the last bit if you were a long driver and hit it 430 carry, the last 30 I believe would be calculated is all, but the trajectory would be pretty clear after 400 yards lol. The x3 is super tight indoor on ball speed, launch, and spin. Spin axis on the other hand though can be a little different at times. Surprisingly, now that I think about it. I've never compared shot shape outdoors with like the X3 and the Quad, since x3 is following the ball the entire way, things like wind is being factored into the ball flight trajectory. Still, might have to do that on a day where it's beautiful out with absolutely no wind/ less than 2 mph.
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
All of this is what I assumed but didn’t know for sure. I figured the numbers would differ slightly based on differences in how things were measured but didn’t know the differences. I would love to know how radar vs camera works outdoors with some wind in play. Seems like the camera LM would be less useful in that case. Thanks for sharing this.
@vikingsfan9049
@vikingsfan9049 Жыл бұрын
@@user-wz1ux3uv2r Of course Thanks for the video. I love when people upload these types of videos.
@Timski2543
@Timski2543 Жыл бұрын
Have owned the mevo+ for 2 years now and would say shot shapes are pretty accurate especially when using it on the range. Would agree that irons read a tad further inside due to lower rpms measured. Wedges and putting inside with mevo are useless. Driver distances are also underestimated inside with mevo. Overall outside though much more accurate and worth the lower price tag and portability. The discrepancy in shot shape in your video looks like a bit of different alignment between your mevo and bushnell
@madweazl
@madweazl Жыл бұрын
It will work well on the range because the radar continues to track the ball in flight (should be spot on). Inside it basically has horizontal launch angle and only 10' or so of flight which isn't enough to provide the draw/fade characteristics.
@firstname2072
@firstname2072 8 ай бұрын
@@madweazlmine shows draw/fades absolutely no issues.
@damiensmith8351
@damiensmith8351 Жыл бұрын
Does the bushnell not interfere with the radar on the mevo, being that it's so close to the ball?
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
It's definitely possible.
@ericpettigrew9480
@ericpettigrew9480 Жыл бұрын
Why did you cut out carry distances? Also you have a massive gap between mevo and your mat. They specifically say not to.
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
I knew I couldn’t fit everything on screen so I included all of the data in the link in the description so you can compare if you want. The mevo is on an old hitting mat that I cut up to make a 24” wide runway from the mevo to my fiberbuilt mat. They are not the exact same height which is most likely the issue for the putting.
@DocJBurns
@DocJBurns 7 ай бұрын
How is playing on courses with BLP? I love my Garmin R10 till it stopped charging after 10months use. Garmin I want to play I could be in a game in 1-2 minutes. Even playing online with others we could be playing in 2 minutes. How is BLP?
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r 7 ай бұрын
The BLP is an amazing for simulation play. Setup of the launch monitor itself takes about 1 minute to turn on and align. Depending on the software you use it might take another 3-5 minutes. I see FSX Play taking a little longer to load than GSPro. Also, FSX Play has online multiplayer in beta currently but you can use GSPro to play online. Putting and chipping with BLP is pretty flawless.
@goingforebirdie
@goingforebirdie 2 ай бұрын
Is the bushnell all wireless connections?
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r 2 ай бұрын
Here I'm using it wirelessly but it has the option to use a wired connection.
@John-ei5uz
@John-ei5uz Жыл бұрын
I know I'm a bit slow to comment on this video but would like to ask what kind of subscription package is needed for the BLP before GS Pro can be used with it. I know GS Pro is 3rd party and not officially supported so does that mean you don't need any subscription with the BLP to be able to link it with GS Pro?
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
You just need the basic subscription for now but there’s no guarantee that won’t change in the future.
@John-ei5uz
@John-ei5uz Жыл бұрын
@@user-wz1ux3uv2r Thanks for the response. I'm really enjoying playing GS Pro through my R10 and can even do putting using the webcam hack but really short chip shots aren't consistent. Overall, which launch monitor do you think offers the most bang for buck (apart from the R10)?
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
My main recommendation is the BLP. You're getting a very professional launch monitor for the money and the BLP pricing gives you flexibility to pay for (or not pay for) the Foresight software. I've found it to be about 90% the same experience as using my GCQuad, the quad just has a few extra data points. Chipping and putting are perfect and setup takes 2 seconds. Skytrak+ could be a contender once it's working with GSPro (could be soon) but the price is still so close to a BLP it might not be worth it to save a few hundred.
@DustyNotDustin
@DustyNotDustin Жыл бұрын
Can you buy the Bushnell and not pay for the yearly subscription, and instead use GS Pro?
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
Right now you need at least the basic subscription from Bushnell to use GSPro. Lots of people go that route.
@dbnichols
@dbnichols Жыл бұрын
Will you get club path data in GSP if you’re on basic?
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
@@dbnichols yes. All the data is the same across all the subscription levels. Gspro also shows a calculated club face angle.
@konstantinzuev3565
@konstantinzuev3565 4 ай бұрын
Is there any changes with the updates? or it is the same story, curios to see club path and ball flight
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r 4 ай бұрын
I don't know if there's been any changes to their algorithm made public but there's a chance they tweak things during updates and there have been many updates since this. Personally I feel like there may have been improvements to the fusion tracking and I leave that on at all times now. I did a recent video playing GSPro and I didn't have any shots that surprised me.
@joelkautz7356
@joelkautz7356 Жыл бұрын
Your Launch Pro is setup 4 degrees closed.
@joe3771
@joe3771 Жыл бұрын
Flightscope representative say you can use those balls. They Really suggest just using the stickers that come with it and put the ball down with stickers towards the screen. Joe
@snipedust4652
@snipedust4652 Жыл бұрын
Where you using dots on ball or RCT ball for mevo plus?
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
RCT ball
@GolfBert
@GolfBert Жыл бұрын
@@user-wz1ux3uv2r You cant putt with RCT ball. Interesting video, i also draw the ball with irons but dont much on mevo.
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
I switched the ball when putting. I forgot on the first couple but then switched it to a regular prov1.
@normgregoire7954
@normgregoire7954 Жыл бұрын
@@user-wz1ux3uv2r Also try using a green ball for putting. I found this to be a massive improvement for putting with Mevo+.
@CivSkates
@CivSkates 10 ай бұрын
region locking the bushnell is criminal.
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r 10 ай бұрын
Yup, it sucks
@robbyrubin
@robbyrubin Жыл бұрын
.4 degrees of tilt on the mevo is gonna really screw up your readings
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
If it's within the acceptable range I would think it would account for it? If not they shouldn't give an acceptable range...
@leonvalentine3077
@leonvalentine3077 Жыл бұрын
The range the suggest is 12 degrees of tilt as standard for fs golf and e6 connect
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
You’re right. For some reason I thought you were talking about the roll even though you said tilt.
@robbyrubin
@robbyrubin Жыл бұрын
@@user-wz1ux3uv2r LOL. I actually did mean to say roll. I think the 12.3 degrees tilt probably won't make too much of a difference, but again, it'll be more accurate if it's at 12 precisely. But the -.4 degrees of roll will definitely mess with your readings. You can buy a leveler for the mevo+ on ebay, they're like $20. Again, in my opinion, it's just not quite a fair comparison because the bushnell is in a perfect setup position, and the mevo+ is not. Which again, is a knock on the mevo+ in my opinion, b/c you have to set it up perfectly every time. By the way, your YT page is great, I always enjoy your videos!
@user-wz1ux3uv2r
@user-wz1ux3uv2r Жыл бұрын
​@@robbyrubin Thanks! I didn't expect to see such a different ball flight but if it is from me being off by less than a degree on something then people should know how careful you have to be. I love how much is included with the Mevo+ and pro package but I definitely don't want any false confidence!
@zackz1260
@zackz1260 Жыл бұрын
Your Mevo is clearly not correctly setup lol
@tnoh
@tnoh 10 ай бұрын
You’d see a similar discrepancy even if you compared a Trackman to a GCQuad (TXG/Club Champion has a video on this). Any radar vs camera LM will typically have these differences in simulated flight. Both have their pros/cons, and neither are 100% accurate.
@JPushee33
@JPushee33 Жыл бұрын
This review/comparison is pretty useless.
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