How $12,000 Carpets Are Made For Pottery Barn And West Elm | Big Business

How $12,000 Carpets Are Made For Pottery Barn And West Elm | Big Business | Insider Business

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@2911moj Жыл бұрын

Love these mini documentaries. But I find it interesting that they mention selling prices of the items but almost never mention how much the artisans get paid.

@Bengalurean1 11 ай бұрын

They get paid in daily wages. About 300 to 400 Indian rupees for labor without art work involved. About 1000 Indian Rupees per day with art work involved. Also, there is a higher daily wage paid for male workers, as they tend to perform more physically intensive tasks than their female counterparts.

@adithyahk 11 ай бұрын

You wish they were treated like artisans! Why do you think their children and next generation is not ready to take up this job and instead migrating to cities! They are paid cheap labour

@draj124 10 ай бұрын

@@Bengalurean1 400 rupees is around like $5/day, if it takes a year to make one then it costs less than $2000 for labor, add in materials and shipping and maybe its $5000. The rugs then sell for 10k minimum at retail which means most of the profits are indeed going to the store.

@joshuaherman7265 10 ай бұрын

@@draj124the store also has cost and overhead. There is also shipping involved in getting the product to the store.

@gorak9000 10 ай бұрын

This looks like blatant exploitation of poor people that don't have anything else to do to me. They make out like it's handmade because it's complicated - it's hand made because you can pay all these people less to do it than it costs to buy a machine to do it.

@sharonhill2602 Жыл бұрын

It’s sad that the people who put all the work into these carpets don’t see hardly as much as those companies that sell them. I bet the mark up sale price is huge.

@TheHooman Жыл бұрын

$12k, they mentioned in video.

@anupdev5845 Жыл бұрын

That's because those companies are taking all the risk by investing in factory space, raw materials, manpower and other associated costs but they have no certainty that they will be able to sell all their manufactured products. If business was so easy, everybody would be doing it.

@Shubham_Bahirat Жыл бұрын

@@anupdev5845i think the company is indian who runs manufacturing plant. And then they sell it to American brands maybe for 300-400 usd. Then American seller sells that for 12k I think she's talking about American seller.

@striker44 Жыл бұрын

@TheHooman Out of the 12K price, maybe on 5% -10% goes to the people who are making it. Majority goes to the retailer's pockets.

@manjack235 Жыл бұрын

@@Shubham_Bahiratthat what you think , we need to hear it from her

@ankurpathe9249 Жыл бұрын

No wonder youngsters dont wanna acquire this skill! These ppl deserve higher wages!

@Jacob-zv7xw 7 ай бұрын

machines can do the same thing for cheaper. The mark up is huge and its bc they're hand made

@meshackmavyuva3713 4 ай бұрын

This is practically slavery , working till your last leg with no quality pay , rubbish

@fhoque48 Жыл бұрын

12k for a carpet, probably 12 cents/hour for a worker who also works as a farmer and could never retire. Ridiculous

@66556086 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I know 12c an hour is overpaid. It should be 6c. Ridiculous

@shagreen2168 Жыл бұрын

Minimum wage in India is 218 dollars/month, so even if they do not follow these rules, and their jobs are not permanent, I guess it’s around 6 dollars/day. I agree though It’s still very low.

@ChandranPrema123 Жыл бұрын

@@shagreen2168these are jobs belonging to unorganised job sector. So rules don't apply here. He isn't working in a factory

@Federico84 Жыл бұрын

@@shagreen2168 you can not expect for an Indian worker to have the same salary of an american. The cost of living is totally different

@anupdev5845 Жыл бұрын

@@Federico84 Even for Indians, 6 dollars a day (INR 500 approx) is very low and not enough to live a good life anywhere in India. Only unskilled labourers earn so little. These carpet weavers are skilled workers and deserve a higher pay than that.

@TharnTara Жыл бұрын

Much respect for the artists and the makers. But please give us more insight on the numbers, how much does these worker make? How much does the company make and what are the cost of production?

@wonhome2711 10 ай бұрын

what's the point. are you going to pay $20,000 for a carpet?

@ZeroInDaHouse 11 ай бұрын

One huge problem with many of these videos is its never mentioned how much they get paid and how that stacks to their local poverty line, I believe we are literally witnessing almost slave wages for products that make a lot of money in the west. The worker in the video literally said that he could feed his family from this can you imagine working 16-18h a day and that has to be your baseline for living? But I think if Business Insider started to in more deeply on that and these companies might start getting public backlash. And in the future no company will allow a Business Insider mini docu. Its kind of a double edged sword as without such videos we also don't see the people behind many things we take for granted in our lives and maybe perhaps we CAN make a change by supporting companies that do pay their workers more fairly.

@alva7701 10 ай бұрын

Agree

@Zahrul3 10 ай бұрын

The men working at the factory wearing hard hats get paid good wages. It's the women doing piece rate outsourced work, that get paid slave wages. Admittedly if they were fairly paid, then a $12k carpet would end up costing $30k. Brands take so much margin it may even be cheaper to fly to India, buy a carpet, and fly back to the US

@wonhome2711 10 ай бұрын

so, if you don't buy a carpet from them, these people will make nothing and starve. with the completion for labor, these people aren't getting slave labor

@blackmamba9950 4 ай бұрын

Supply and demand, the supply of low cost labor in India is pretty high, wages would only appreciate slowly

@jonathanperreault4503 Жыл бұрын

a carpet like this really bring the room together ..

@glennalexon1530 Жыл бұрын

I guarantee none of those carpets is “rejected for a small mistake”. There a dozen guys on that crew that could fix any mistake without even delaying shipment.

@Daedhart Жыл бұрын

7:10 The literal blood and sweat being woven into the carpets...these people better be being paid at least a living wage, especially considering how expensive these carpets can be sold for. Guessing they only see a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of that profit...

@ChandranPrema123 Жыл бұрын

That's nail polish 💅😂

@KidBackup100 Жыл бұрын

@@ChandranPrema123Not even nail polish but Henna/Mehndi

@debbiemarquis3231 Жыл бұрын

Of a fraction..of a fraction...it's ridiculous

@achintyasoni Жыл бұрын

pays them a pittance . "We have struggled to find weavers 🤡 "

@kawaiipurplesaphire6163 Жыл бұрын

For obeete to be 103 years old is craaaaaazy

@LIZZIE-lizzie 11 ай бұрын

Twenty years ago I bought a handknotted carpet 5'x7', on sale, half price $250. It's as good now as it was then. Admittedly, it has to be cleaned and it would cost around $60 which is pretty good. A good vacuum cleaner brings the colors right out - red, blue and beige and I mean a GOOD vacuum cleaner. The Dirt Devil did it no justice. After the new vacuum cleaner went over it, I was shocked. The colors were outstanding. Didn't know until after I used the vacuum what a difference and that's the Hoover Cyclone. Best vacuum cleaner on the market! 🤣

@deletdis6173 10 ай бұрын

Good to know, I've been looking for a good vacuum.

@chrismunkelwitz4477 6 ай бұрын

The amount of time & work together to bring the rug to market is arduous I HAVE AT LEAST 2 MADE IN INDIA RUGS 1 A RECENT ADDITION THE OTHER FOR 7 YEARS NOW & I LOOKED FOR INDIA OR TURKEY FOR MY 2nd ONE BOUGHT 1 FROM INDIA 1st one still wonderful and still love it nice to see possibly where they were made & the people who made them GOOD VIDEO.

@joshtracy4441 Жыл бұрын

Insider glossed over the part where they dump the used chemical and dye water into the local river systems…

@EliF-ge5bu Жыл бұрын

India is not exactly known for its strict standards for wastewater treatment and management. It is implied that these get dumped into the rivers. Even rich countries like the UK have a hard time keeping untreated wastewater such as raw sewage off its rivers and beaches.

@AdamBechtol Жыл бұрын

Mmmmm

@ashrithrao06 Жыл бұрын

India has the technology developed by several companies to manage waste water from industries, the problem is that they are not implementing it.

@uuuuu9313 Жыл бұрын

Yep I agree with you but a westerner saying something about environment protection is irony at its peak 😅😅

@striker44 Жыл бұрын

Maybe Westerners need to be charged more and pass that additional export tariff for environmental protection activities.

@CensoredMercy 10 ай бұрын

One carpet costs $12 000 because of the exceptionally craft by the creators; as if they actually get a fair portion of the profits.

@GGTanguera 10 ай бұрын

Not really. The cost exist becouse there are people who can afford it. For 12,000 I would buy a silk on silk Persian carpet in Dubai.

@Automedon2 10 ай бұрын

In between the workshop in India and the retail store there are thousands of people in transportation - ships and truck drivers, warehouses, sales, advertising, internet ordering, delivery, retail outlets. Then there is the cost of running warehouses, offices and retail stores. The price of an item is not just labor in making the item. When everything is made by machines and robots, then no one will have an income anymore.

@noiseinmyblood 6 ай бұрын

West Elm and Pottery Barn source $12,000 dollar rugs from sweat shops in India, is what we learned. I get the lack of footwear when you're on the carpet thread, but.. barefoot in the warehouse, loading trucks? Ok. Wearing a medical mask, not even a N-95, in lieu of a respirator in the dye shop and when handling chemicals? No goggles, but at least they have kitchen gloves, I guess that's okay? The man with the blowtorch is barehanded and wearing rain boots. The weavers admit to working 16-18 hour days. Anyone see any fans or air vents in any part of the video? I didn't. Sweat shops.

@jwwebnaut7045 11 ай бұрын

I can't help wondering what colour rivers and brooks will have downstream of these works. The whole narrative didn't spend the smallest thought on environmental impact.

@pwp8737 10 ай бұрын

any more than the thought you put in to the environmental cost of the plastic keyboard you typed your feelings on

@skylarmathison1481 9 ай бұрын

I agree

@kapil9707 Жыл бұрын

Kaalin bhaiyya is the King in this business 🔥

@arjunjassal929 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@parijatgoswami9134 Жыл бұрын

Indian Artists 🙏

@JustMe54328 Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for not purchasing something similar in kashmir. Hand woven carpets are majestic

@JustMe54328 Жыл бұрын

@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist4 repent to common sense

@m1sawajapan 10 ай бұрын

I bought like 10 when living in Turkey and still buying through my dealer. Get one!

@ItsMe-yv9jd 10 ай бұрын

?? With 2 billion people living in India in 2023, I seriously doubt there is a lack of people available... rather a lack of people willing to work 16 hours a day, (every day, for years and years) in horrific conditions, for a miserable amount of money.

@ak35h22 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely loving that this generation gaf about how people who do the work are treated and paid. Keep it up guys, we're going to make some of this world a little better. 💯

@VanGoWanderlust 9 ай бұрын

$12,000 rugs and they can’t find workers?!? They (corporations) need to pay those weavers more and then they won’t have a problem finding workers.

@Merrychristmastree 9 ай бұрын

They are the True Artisans and should get paid on percentage of what a carpet is selling for at Willam sonoma and Pottery Barn. The hard working People in rural areas are making cents compared to the company's selling the finished products. It's also ridiculous that we pay such an expensive price and yet none of that goes to the Artisans. I wish all those hard working people could retire and have a good life and not have to work like they do just to live day to day..My respects to all them ❤

@beckykent6674 6 ай бұрын

Amazing that this could not be done by a machine! Soooo labor intensive.

@davidcantor293 Жыл бұрын

To spend your entire life making rugs. Do not take life for granted!

@nannerz1994 Жыл бұрын

It's good to know that for the price is you're paying at these stores you're actually getting a quality product

@migueloth 6 ай бұрын

Got mine from Teotitlan Oaxaca México not as expensive, 100% wool. We've been stepping on them for 15 years and still look new.

@KillerCammy85 Жыл бұрын

They are truly beautiful. My parents and grandparents had Persian rugs. Those things are crazy expensive.

@L17_8 Жыл бұрын

Jesus loves you ❤️ please turn to him and repent before it's too late. The end times described in the Bible are already happening in the world.

@pulse3554 Жыл бұрын

Persian rugs have Indic origins! It’s funny how the naming of everything is due to the western perspective Way precedes the Mughals

@sutats 6 ай бұрын

Very cool. Not much laborious handiwork exists these days.

@dmcarstensen Жыл бұрын

Looks like a good spot for a fully democratic worker cooperative.

@AdamBechtol Жыл бұрын

They all keep talking about how they have to be careful every step of the way as one little mistake could ruin the whole thing. But that seems ridiculous, who the heck is going to say "I was gonna pay $13,000 for that rug, but there's a little knot on the end so it's worth $0 to me now"

@6Abhi9 Жыл бұрын

It damages the reputation of company. Consumer would probably not even notice it

@otomackena7610 Жыл бұрын

They definetly wont throw them away. They will sell them either through clearance at discounts without branding.

@DOI_ARTS Жыл бұрын

Its the quality control

@Mclovin96X Жыл бұрын

even heard about "trust" in a product . will you buy burger from burger king you find a fly in your burger

@m1sawajapan 10 ай бұрын

@@Mclovin96X would you buy a burger from BK if one day they put the cheese on the bottom of the meat instead of the top? Just curious. Why is Mclovin talking about BK?

@Indiahandmade 4 ай бұрын

Elevate your space with the essence of tradition and modernity. Indiahandmade durry rugs is more than just a decor piece; it's a symbol of artistry and sustainability that aligns with your values.

@goofy3908 6 ай бұрын

if the rugs are sold for 12k, how much is going to labor?

@zak1004 Жыл бұрын

with respect to all but the persian carpets are the best in terms of quality and beauty

@chakra7562 Жыл бұрын

Carpets means status for family, empires your business or government offices. Good hand made Carpets can last 1000 years. ❤ 🇮🇳🙏

@BuzzCry Жыл бұрын

"Company has struggled to find new weavers" "Young people are moving away to find better paying jobs" So clearly the weavers don't have a good enough salary. I doubt they are making much out of that $12,000 end result.

@healthytalk666 9 ай бұрын

Excellent narration...

@beverlylumley4150 Жыл бұрын

Interesting video, thank you

@4Realkevv Жыл бұрын

Thats one hell of a skill

@blackmamba3427 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant ❤ Awesome ❤

@prabhakar0076 Жыл бұрын

Why don't they get INDIAN ISO CERTIFIED , ORGANIC , HAND MADE, CHEMICAL FREE etc certifications and sell directly online as Brand by Whole village

@MrDede2011 4 ай бұрын

Used to work for William Sonoma West elm and pottery barn are just different sub brands to mark up products that are basically the same

@MithunOnTheNet Жыл бұрын

Maybe pay the actual weavers better? You won't find an issue in finding workers in India's most populous (and worst) states! $12K for a carpet at retail but complaining they're finding hard to find new generation of weavers.

@Editnamehere Жыл бұрын

OBTee isn’t selling the rugs wholesale for 12k. They are selling $200 rugs to William sonoma who sell it for $5000.

@terrystrife4198 Жыл бұрын

So if they cost so much money, are they paying the weavers/ Ladies a high wage???? I really would like to know

@Kathakathan11 Жыл бұрын

Middlemen earn much more than the handloom owners. But these days it’s changing. We buy directly from hand looms due to internet connectivity. Also due to easy access to these remote parts But it’s still just 5% of the desirable change.

@RishiKumarPS Жыл бұрын

@@Kathakathan11not middlemen. The brands that put their label and sell in the US to the consumer earn the most. It won't get passed on.

@Kathakathan11 Жыл бұрын

@@RishiKumarPS they are middlemen

@navidutube Жыл бұрын

Insider Business is full of factual mistakes...every episode is like that.

@ArmandKermanshah 10 ай бұрын

Truthfully these carpets are not much in comparison to Persian carpets.

@JESUS-fi9oe Жыл бұрын

1000 % profit

@pepposano4200 4 ай бұрын

Used to have four Persian rugs. Our dog peed on them abnd my father threw them away… never again.

@angelacahill9460 Жыл бұрын

I am so glad that this sort of handmade craftsmanship still exists in the world. Very rare now. I'm so glad that it employs so many skilled human beings to do the work. Also rare.

@vishwa_iron Жыл бұрын

The youtubers posting cleaning carpet videos earn 10 times than one those making it

@OKisOkay Жыл бұрын

Arre Kaleen Bhaiyya 😮

@rex_schd Жыл бұрын

Always thought the colourful design see on carpet is just painted later with brush. Like printing press .Didn't realised it was weaved with different colored threads

@pwp8737 10 ай бұрын

watching this video and looking at my hand-made Indian carpet under my feet

@quantx6572 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating. I would love to know what the pay scale looks like, from the very bottom to the top brass.

@jimurrata6785 10 ай бұрын

Laura Alber (CEO of Williams Sonoma, which includes Pottery Barn, West Elm and others) made $17,322,255 in 2022

@dedasdude Жыл бұрын

they sell it for thousands but looks like they pay the hardest working individuals the least :(

@U.K.N Жыл бұрын

They’re hindus and they don’t aspire to rise to great hights so its ok

@arpanmandal7244 Жыл бұрын

@@U.K.Nlol pki we know your condition fella.

@U.K.N Жыл бұрын

@@arpanmandal7244 what is it then ? Being smart and telling people what others want ?

@arpanmandal7244 Жыл бұрын

@@U.K.N lol pki

@kutter_ttl6786 Жыл бұрын

@U.K.N I guess you missed the part where the company is struggling to find new weavers because young people are moving away for better paying jobs? It's right at 6:34, it would benefit you to pay attention.

@ln14517 10 ай бұрын

These are high-end brands that do fair trade. The cheap carpet at home goods is the one that hurts the people at the bottom the most.

@justaperson2247 10 ай бұрын

mentioning "buttom" was imp....i agree😅😂

@Mark-mx7zq Жыл бұрын

Jeez! This is super hard asf..

@seansingh4421 Жыл бұрын

They’re Mirzapur’s Kaleen Bhaiyas

@anikeshsingh5746 Жыл бұрын

While watching this i only remember KALEENN BHAIYA😎

@alongcoh 10 ай бұрын

Who the hell is walking into a Pottery barn and dropping $12k on a rug? Only people I’ve ever seen in there are 88 years old and using a walker.

@jimurrata6785 10 ай бұрын

Williams Sonoma and West Elm are all the same company. The average annual wage in Uttar Pradesh is $1,500 while the CEO of WS made $17,322,255 in 2022.

@drinny26 Жыл бұрын

All those chemicals just flow right out into the ocean.

@ChazBword 6 ай бұрын

People are leaving because they see that this is working poor people to the bone and they want something better. If the working conditions were updated and the pay was increased, then maybe you wouldn't be complaining about a "thinning workforce". With the amount of standards they have for these carpets, these workers should be living well.

@mn4169 6 ай бұрын

Great

@sapandream Жыл бұрын

My Head and Eye both ache by only looking at it.

@glennr9913 8 ай бұрын

I'd never spend serious money on a carpet from any of the companies mentioned. We purchased a high quality carpet a couple of years ago from a small local business owned and run by Middle Easterners. Wall Street didn't profit from the transaction.

@harmandeepsinghdhillon3214 Жыл бұрын

12 grand for one carpet and local workers doing for year and still couldn’t able to purchase machinery to ramp up production and change horrible tiring work condition with technology tells that money is not funnelling to the workers and staying only within upper fews .. no wonder india has 185 billionaire and 800 millions people living in slums .. money is not trickling down ..

@RomitDholakia5 Жыл бұрын

I bet if these carpets were made in Europe it would be selling for a million dollars.

@CharliFunk Жыл бұрын

So very satisfying just to watch this.

@auro1986 Жыл бұрын

how? one carpet is made like this for a year and rest 349999 carpets are made faster by machines somewhere else but very little money is for india

@ishusingh5606 Жыл бұрын

In India all profit rest in the hand of middle man.

@sharadmoudgil Жыл бұрын

Kaleen Bhaiya of Mirzapur.😉

@hp4415 6 ай бұрын

A lot of the steps can be machine done without sacrificing the quality but I guess can’t charge premium price if it’s machine done

@isheetampancholi Жыл бұрын

Proper reporting consists of All numbers; Wage, Cost of Manufacturing etc. AND how do they treat waste water/chemicals. Beautiful Artisans ! # Obeetee carpets # Business Insider

@RajShekharSingh Жыл бұрын

Most people commenting here have not lived or know the area they are talking about, I am from there so let me put some thoughts. India is still incredibly poor country with oer capita income of

@Mclovin96X Жыл бұрын

people here complaining about their job hours . atleast they have a job , unemployed person in india is ready to do anything . atleast we dont loot stores like they do in usa . its honest day work .

@MicaFarrierRheayan 10 ай бұрын

Are they being paid reasonably?

@Automedon2 10 ай бұрын

@smartbaba1321 Жыл бұрын

1:35 wrong history. India having historical records of carpets dating back to Indus valley civilization..

@ThirdAlt Жыл бұрын

If they get about $170 per carpet than both things are true

@Portfelio 6 ай бұрын

Thats literally 9302 McChickens for something im just goi to step on.

@Lightsout89 Жыл бұрын

They need to pay these guys and lady's .more money as they are priceless to the company thats profiting 10s of millions and these poor people can hardly cloth them self's

@artisanhome8980 5 ай бұрын

I understand the value of quality craftsmanship, but the prices of REAL furniture made with wood and quality rugs that aren't made of rubber, plastic, and vinyl are ridiculously high. The high prices of home furnishings are the reason why most peoples' homes are so sparsely furnished! Too many home furnishing companies are price gouging. Where do they expect homeowners to get thousands and thousands of dollars for a rug and rugs for multiple rooms? RIDICULOUS!!!

@HallidayASR 9 ай бұрын

That's an insane ammount of manual labor, can't wait for when these jobs are also replaced with automated machines, we are not too far off

@rogerhodges7656 10 ай бұрын

Someone needs to do a search. I don't think that Pottery Barn or West Elm sell any $12,00 rugs.

@michelleabaya287 6 ай бұрын

Well, it seems that the weaver guy wanted his son to inherit his job, so it can't be that bad !!! Said he was able to afford education and marriage for his children. So, he must have been paid way more than the basic wage. Even white collar office workers in the US, struggle to do all that... but working for 50 years, maybe thats good, maybe thats bad.

@rotcoke652 9 ай бұрын

This is so sad. These people create a rug by hand that sells for $12k and how much do they get paid? Maybe $50, but that's probably being too generous. This is how India works btw, there is one family at the top keeping all of the money.

@ibawon Жыл бұрын

Trust me when I say they make less than $6/hour

@cameronweston1762 7 ай бұрын

The carpet doesn’t cost $12,000 it’s priced at $12,000 and valued at $350

@grantjohnston6152 10 ай бұрын

Just one more reason I hate Restoration Hardware. Their "authenticity" only goes as far as the product, not actually taking care of the people who make them...

@Automedon2 10 ай бұрын

@kouleeofficial Жыл бұрын

And I bet the labor workers don’t even get paid that much.

@ss-pw4zj Жыл бұрын

12k for one carpet, they probably sell it for 20k, I can imagine buying for 20k

@Editnamehere Жыл бұрын

Lol you’re so off. 😅

@sreenivasaraghavan9608 8 ай бұрын

Kaaleen bhaiya

@actionforanimals4862 10 ай бұрын

So these workers make at most $12/day. No wonder Obeetee and other carpet manufacturers are struggling to find new workers. These are not living wages or fair wages. These are poverty wages. Shame on Williams-Sonoma, West Elm, and pottery Barn for not insisting that these workers make much more money.

@Automedon2 10 ай бұрын