BUSTED Start for Astragoth Ironhand || Chaos Dwarfs

[@theartofsavescumming]

Addendum: For advanced players- The thing that I left out of this guide that is going to be fairly discretionary on how you run your settlements is rushing your buildings. If you follow this guide to attack the caravans you can use the extra labor in tandem with the extra money to rush your raw material building chains. Caution- if you are a beginner TWW player you will likely need a chunk of that money to build a hobgoblin army to assist with Grimgor. Also be mindful that you are likely to go to war with Kholek next. You can avoid war with him by trading it for a war with the Skaven north of your capital ( the ones I signed nonaggression and trade with.) Personally, I would rather consolidate territory against the border of the map and keep the Skaven and minor Norscans happy and fighting Kislev. That is your call

[@Charlys787]

The caravan loot has been nerfed, you get around 1.5k gold even when you attack them with 4 lords.

[@SwedishScoundrel]

The moment you follow the guide and there is no caravans to be found at turn 5. xD

[@vojtechmeduna2664]

Yeah, same here. I think some patch changed it. Caravans show up in turn 6 but loot from them is reeealy small.

[@jameskelsea6048]

this is a good strategy to rush Grimgor and the caravans. I also feel like people are sleeping on the value of the Goromandy Mountains province. It has 4 settlements (2 ports), marble & iron. It is really close to your starting capital and has the canal right there so you can go south in two turns....

[@InternetHydra]

I think it’s less people sleeping on it and more people not wanting to trigger four or more LLs by going out north.

[@sohi9813]

Man this was an awesome tactic. Was my 2nd chorf campaign. The caravans showed up turn 6 and didn’t stop til turn 11. I felt I had to pull myself away from the loot to deal with grimgor but I was ashy larry rich. My faction overall income was 230k on turn 20. Smashed grimgor friends with kholek and jumped around to sell greases his land. Afterwards I sacked and razed Cathay for mats which is crazy strong bc of the instant build mechanic. Also your guide for kairos made me have an awesome campaign thanks man cheers

[@Death_La_Bloom]

You need to do this with every race bro. I like watching and doing this myself because it helps me get a better understanding of how to play each race. Please keep it up 🙏

[@Mittke88]

It looks like they fixed it, you cannot really exceed 2.5k per caravan. -_-

[@LightningBoltah]

I found that going for Grimgor ASAP caused other factions to attack me. Going for Zhar Naggrund tanks my reliability but I become so strong my neighbors dont attack, affording me an opportunity to rob caravans and build a second army.

[@dasgomo4174]

Thank you for this guide, really helped as I have been struggling to get started on the chaos dwarves

[@julyusssss]

Only in my first try the two caravans spawned at the same time, never again, only one now appears.

[@jakubs.5966]

This is great. I will be doing that probably when I will start my Astragoth campaign :)

[@Radioactive100100]

I can't get this strat to work the orks and goblins are so garbage units they get wiped by the second settlement battle. Even when I manually do the battles. I don't know whats up

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Very weel thought ! I tried an early Grimgor elimination going through the northern pass, taking out Sabre Moutains to Ogres and then the small Greenskin faction just east, then going south, but it's longer and there's no rich caravans to loot Drazhoath has a better start he can loot caravans with its capitol garrison !^^

[@sg3481]

Hope u do a "strongest start" for Drazhoath too

[@theartofsavescumming]

I have started looking into it. Its just kind of grindy. I don't know that it will be particularly interesting

[@LordLux]

im kinda new to warhammer 3, played 2 some times but never got very strong, im trying to play chaos dwarfs but ended 1) losing against beastmans 2) losing against greenskins 3) losing against skavens 4) losing against dwarf (turn 153, longest play, lost after event and unlucky timings)

[@Durthii]

what do you do when there are no cathayan caravans there >_>

[@TheNoraa890]

I got caravans on turn 6. Just got to be patient thats all

[@krzysztofnosal4956]

What about your capital built-up to tier 4 in turn 8? Thats a really good start for Astragoth.

[@theartofsavescumming]

See pinned comment. You can do that if you like.

[@7eitgeist]

They patched it, damn. I only got 1000 from the first caravan

[@nailigniststarzear6689]

you wait another turn for +3 convoy level and you forget to use that 3 skill point before send out convoy 😂

[@theartofsavescumming]

It doesn't really matter that much. The first convoy is probably headed to a close by settlement for scratchings. The important thing is that the convoy leader is now +3 so he doesnt have to run multiple convoys to get up to speed.

[@Ax_Dj0]

What is your opinion on Hashut magic?

[@jakubs.5966]

Basic spell isn't that strong..but once you overcast it. It's decent and I grew to like it. But you should have Mirror Shield(or barrier or healing/regen in melee) to soak or heal the damage from miscasts. Dark subjugation and Ash storm are useful. Never used Curse of Hashut, seems bad for it's cost. Hammer is amazing on Astragoth and Eruption is superb on Drazoath. What it lacks is single targets sniping spells so I like to bring Death and or Metal caster along. Overall I find it really dependable with all the fire damage your units are doing. You either smash enemy units straight up or amplify your units damage and debuff the enemy at the same time. Mid to late game you get all the technologies that lower cooldowns and costs combined with same thing on your casters. What's not to like!

[@itzjustkris7964]

this must be a glitch im not getting anywhere near this much money...

[@theartofsavescumming]

These things have been changed

[@danaloveall6338]

Caravans never came… wtf

[@Maas_Grande]

😮

[@warthogvanguard7292]

It’s so good to see you playing Chaos Dwarfs TAOSC! It’s definitely because you *wanted* to play them and not because they are currently a trending faction, right 😉

[@theartofsavescumming]

Actually part right. I think they have very innovative mechanics. I don't particularly care for dwarfs of any kind. However, there is some good stuff in this DLC

[@yabs9642]

i would change this tactic and take over zhar nargrund ASAP for tier 5 tower. now you get caravans and best units in the game off the rip. the rest is just getting armaments. i would then push down to imrik take him over then get nargasshar or w/e that settlement is for a tier 4 settlement. and by that expansion youll have 2 full provinces of resources and one full province of factories..or 2 factory provinces depending on how you wanna go about things. personally for me i like to have all settlements tier 3 or tier 5 as fast as possible. itll make confederating chorfs a thing around turn 50-60

[@theartofsavescumming]

and your reliability would tank. If you play on legendary, your campaign will not recover from that until you are going up against end game crisis

[@jameskelsea6048]

That garrison at Zhar Nargrund is pretty tough?

[@Charlys787]

and the first skill point goes into training... how should I take this serious when you level up the most useless skill in the whole game... mmh wait there is still aura size... second most useless skill

[@user-br1my1gs1r]

this is not do able on medium and above, you take too many casualties from auto resolving and cannot progress, plus cathayan caravans are not always going to be there to begin with

[@mattcollins6561]

That is why you fight the battles and not auto them.

[@theartofsavescumming]

Please pay attention. I said that I was autoresolving for record time. Why on earth you would accept those abysmal results I have no idea. You will always get a better result through manual resolve than auto