I never knew this. Thank you so very much for this great information.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Jwelly96311 ай бұрын
Thank you for making these informative videos. I see these boats all the time in the canal and it's great to know so much about their history
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@maddoxbeaudet15711 ай бұрын
Keep it up Wes, we always enjoy your videos!
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Will do!
@ralphaverill200111 ай бұрын
Weren't "bustles" also an article of Victorian women's underclothing that also expanded the "beam" of the wearer?
@johnsrabe11 ай бұрын
Yes, indeed. And it also led to the phrase, when something was outdated, “I thought that went out with the bustle.
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Correct
@johnsrabe11 ай бұрын
@@authorwes Now you’re cooking with gas!
@johnsrabe11 ай бұрын
You’re going like 60!
@chuckg60397 ай бұрын
Watch for a future video on Captain TJs channel. He is the captain of the Manitoulin. He indicated that he would capture some video of transferring the taconite to his ship. That'll be interesting to watch.
@roderickcampbell210511 ай бұрын
Wonderful and informative video. I live for this material. Best from Newfoundland.
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Many thanks!- best from down in the states
@pipebender252211 ай бұрын
Thanks to "Bustling", I was able to get some good photos of these ships. All are among my favorites. Thanks for this video Wes; never knew the story of this.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Cool! I wondered myself how long these would have lasted without the bustling
@jerrykast771311 ай бұрын
Thank you, Wes. I didn't know about that procedure.
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@russschaeffer370511 ай бұрын
I saw the Tadoussac on the saginaw river around 2003 and saw the bustles on the ship and had no idea what they were called or used for. Thank you for answering a question that I have had for over 20 years.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
That's my job! Thanks for watching.
@craigtupper10311 ай бұрын
Great little video, and glad to see the Leitch/Century featured. My grandfather was her Chief Engineer in the early 80's
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Very cool. "The captain gives the orders, but it's the chief's boat."
@NickFortier11 ай бұрын
I remember a piece of wood on my buddies farm, on it painted "tung hooker" ( a prop for the tongue of the wagon for the pto block) just finished "great lakes shipwrecks and survivals" crazy what these boats go through, mods and otherwise
@NickFortier11 ай бұрын
The John d Leitch is in port in owen sound in winter layup as we speak. I thought it looked weird. Sadly many ships that come here get scrapped shortly after it seems
@Blrtech7711 ай бұрын
Thanks for the history lesson about the freighters! Amazing
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
That's my job!
@Iowaclass6511 ай бұрын
Great video! My cousin served on the Senneville in the late 1970's and throughout the 1980's. I got to visit aboard once. It's great to photos of her in that colorful livery again! These days, we still visit the Welland Canal at least monthly and we always seem to catch the Tadoussac! I wondered why and how Tadoussac received those 'Chipmunk Cheeks' as my GF calls them. Love the pilot house forward classics! Thanks Wes!
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@aceckrot11 ай бұрын
I learned a new term today.Thanks, Wes!
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@johnkelley987711 ай бұрын
I never heard of that until now so this was a very helpful tutorial. I always learn something new from your channel. Thanks for sharing this information.
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bruceringrose753911 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Informative, great camera work, and best of all no robo-voice! Thanks, subbed.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Robo voices make me nuts!!
@jeffdayman818311 ай бұрын
Very interesting Wes! Great video, I really enjoyed it. I had no idea that this was first done so early, in the 1880's. Cheers!
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jamesthompson800811 ай бұрын
Great video, Wes! Thanks for educating some of us entry level boat nerds! Love the research efforts put into these, btw.
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@hooklineandsinker668810 ай бұрын
Keep it up. I found and dove an unknown forgotten wreck off the soo locks it’s a 19th century schooner . Bout a 100 and 30 feet long . I’m currently doing my own research based on tips in your videos
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Cool!
@BillAlexander-cv6oj11 ай бұрын
Great Video, Never knw about this Procedure in the Past or Present. thanks for the Information.....
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chuckg603911 ай бұрын
Great information Wes. Thanks for your efforts.
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@tomrichter24411 ай бұрын
I seemed to miss it -- did the bustle add storage capacity to the ship, or just additional buoyancy that allowed them to place more material elsewhere on the ship
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
The second one
@rottenroads19826 ай бұрын
I discovered a Very useful tool for looking up different Lake Freighters: The Historical Collections of the Great Lakes.
@authorwes6 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@bobbysenterprises322011 ай бұрын
Would this be considered a refit type thing? Would it end up needing new coast guard approvial along with new stability calculations? Curious how this would effect boyancy and the rolling of the vessel.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Great question- I'll need to look that one up.
@ironhorse349711 ай бұрын
Interesting. Thanks !
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@eherrmann0111 ай бұрын
And all along, I thought they were torpedo blisters! j/k, great video sir, thank you.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Close!
@TOTALCAMARO11 ай бұрын
Thank you I was just asking about that in one of the videos someone posted a few months back. He informed me what they were. It’s definitely fascinating. Looks strange but definitely makes them unique 😊
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Glad I could help
@robertmcmanus63611 ай бұрын
What was the extra space used for on the Three Brothers? It seems like there were two hulls with dead space in between. And what is it used for on the newer boats? Also, apparently all the boats that were bustled are Canadian. What would be the relevance of that?
@johnsrabe11 ай бұрын
I would love it if Wes would weigh in here, because he knows more than I do, but I believe the idea was not to give the ship extra cargo space in cubic footage, but that the additional cubic footage of the bustle adds to buoyancy, and therefore allows the ship to carry greater weight. Is that it, Wes? I have two questions. How much additional weight can those four ships carry, and how long would it take before the additional cargo capacity would pay for the $20 million bustling?
@robertmcmanus63611 ай бұрын
@@johnsrabe My impression is the same, that it was for extra buoyancy. So what was that dead space used for?
@johnsrabe11 ай бұрын
@@robertmcmanus636 Just air.
@robertmcmanus63611 ай бұрын
@@johnsrabe And you're throwing this out there from your base of knowledge...?
@authorwes11 ай бұрын
Correct- in the case of Three Brothers, he extra cargo was deck cargo- stack more lumber higher = more board-feet carried
@rottenroads19828 ай бұрын
I have a Question: How does River/Lake Traffic work in the Great Lakes Region, and what are the rules for Commercial Vessels like LakeBoats/Salties, and Public vessels like smaller speed boats, and other recreational vessels?
@authorwes8 ай бұрын
rules are basically the same on both salt water and fresh water.
@rottenroads19826 ай бұрын
@@authorwes, Thanks. Anyways, I was wondering if you could ever make a Video about StemWinders and/or Rabbit Boats. I remember you mentioning it in your video on the History of Great Lake Ship Design Evolution, and I have been curious about such vessels.
@leehanna492911 ай бұрын
An excellent and educational video, Wes! On another note, I’ve been watching videos of lakers (and salties) at Duluth. I have noticed than very few have the same style, even among those of similar length or age. Do you know why? I think it would be an interesting video.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Vessel design has been following economics and mission needs over the pas two decades far more than in earlier years
@davidt370511 ай бұрын
Regarding the last four of the "bustled" boats you describe in the video do you know how much the cargo carrying capacity was increased?
@poowg265711 ай бұрын
Would the term be accurate for battleships with added torpedo blisters?
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Not sure... I'm not a battleship expert.
@LokiOdinson-fz8ps10 ай бұрын
No
@mellissadalby140211 ай бұрын
I have actually wondered that.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Happy to help.
@miapdx5036 ай бұрын
Maritime history is fascinating. Around that time, women, instead of getting a "bbl," Brazilian Butt Lift, they added um, volume to their rear and by wearing "bustles," a large padded thing they wore under skirts. Interesting how the word has similar meaning...🤔
@authorwes6 ай бұрын
That may be where it originated
@davidfischer59453 ай бұрын
I recall watching Tadoussac coming into StelCo at the Canadian Soo in 1986 and she had such a classic, handsome Laker silhouette. It’s my own view, and I understand profitability, but I don’t think she looks good since widening.
@fredtedstedman11 ай бұрын
looks a bit like ballast tanks on a submarine , I don't think it detracts from her looks >
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
When they first came out, some boatnerds were really un impressed by the looks.
@petervisor11 ай бұрын
Business is bustling!
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
I wish.
@josephpadula228311 ай бұрын
Must be really for torpedo defense….
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
"I don't think so Tim"
@rawbsworld66047 ай бұрын
No more comments? Michipecoten a ww ll boat ? ie ship !
@authorwes7 ай бұрын
Due to abuse of the comments option, all future videos will have comments disabled
@rawbsworld66047 ай бұрын
@@authorwes 🤷♂️ don’t recall ubber bad comments but it’s your channel , but ya them idiots always been a part of YT 😢 ✌️🤙 BTW thanks for the reply
@randymagnum14311 ай бұрын
Torpedo blisters.
@authorwes10 ай бұрын
Not quite... but WWII saw plenty of those on vessels.