Home Cooked Pasties Versus Ginsters

[@LauraBidingCitizen]

I came across your channel the day before yesterday, & I have not stopped watching since. What an absolute pleasure to watch you both are! I lost my mum suddenly in January, it’s just my 76 year old Dad & I now & I have 2 chronic genetic disabilities. I prefer to home cook for us when I’m able (preferably batch cook), but we were thinking of investing in an air fryer until the adaptions at my bungalow get finished, to save us some money, & that’s how I found you both! You cook exactly how my lovely mum used to cook too, it’s bringing back so many memories of childhood, playing with the odds & ends of pastry that were always made into little jam tarts lol, while she made her Cornish pasties (& yes, she made them with shortcrust too!) Just wanted so say thank you. It’s really been a delight watching you both! Pay no mind to any miserable so & so’s being rude, that’s KZbin for you. Off to watch more! Take care guys xx

[@butlersempire]

Thanks Laura, glad you are enjoying our vids.

[@willyfarrell9513]

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[@LauraBidingCitizen]

@@willyfarrell9513 eh?

[@martinGrout]

down here in cornwall only tourists eat ginsters. Proper pastys are made with beef skirt.

[@janetevans8603]

And you don't precook anything. Ginsters are awful mince is a no no.

[@derryshore5586]

@@janetevans8603 Thats right..Filling is not precooked..and no gravy

[@derryshore5586]

OMG I hate Ginsters pasties..Mush and way to much pepper.

[@technicholls]

My whole family is from Penzance, they would all be rolling in their grave to see pre-cooked ingredients go into a pasty.

[@mikeskitt6411]

No carrots in a Cornish Pasty. Beef skirt, (not mince)potato, swede, onion, plenty of salt and pepper. Do not precook the filling. Ginsters are an insult to the Cornish Pasty, they are not a proper Cornish pasty.

[@billshedd55]

Fantastic! Northern Michigan is known for its pasties brought over by Cornish miners in the 1840s.

[@dennisprah223]

You are so right . I live in northern Wisconsin. Not far from the Niagra/Iron Mountain border. The U.P. of Michigan is as close to Heaven as possible. It's not just the territory, wildlife.., but mostly the people. Maybe God himself picked who got to live there. As anywhere some are not so nice. Use your instincts, and good sense. I believe everything was made by God. If Northern Wisconsin and the U.P. is second best !!! I'm really looking forward to seeing that!!!

[@simonbaker5972]

Looks amazing! I do love a Ginsters, but prefer yours anyday! Last time I went to Cornwall, a little old dear made a dozen pasties every day and sold them from her kitchen for pin money. You literally knocked on her front door and bought them. They were so lovely. Love your vlogs. You two are great!

[@butlersempire]

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video.

[@lindahall5539]

I've just started to watch you because I needed to know what I could or could not cook in my air fryer. Your recipes are so basic but absolutely delicious just my type of cooking. You advise well in shopping and good wholesome basic grub. Thank you and well done

[@butlersempire]

You are so welcome!

[@caroleshaw9822]

I love your videos!....love how you work together, and how Mr calls Sharon Baby.....melts my heart, my late partner used to call me that too.....Your information is fantastic, but I like your down to earth approach so much!. Love you :this is live editing folks!" I appreciate learning from you lovely people how to use my air fryer that I hope comes in the post this week! .Thank you so much xx

[@butlersempire]

Thanks Carole, glad you like our vids.

[@Lee-Bude]

A Ginsters Cornish pasty is nothing like a real one!

[@Lee-Bude]

@slopp slagit have you tried a real one?!

[@sharonburrows2330]

Tried making the mince onion pasty with sheet pastry fell apart and no gd won't be doing them again

[@richard7645]

What's this world come to getting in-depth about a pasty 😄

[@deeb4351]

Hahaha! "Probably the size of an old 75 single!" Now THATS old school. Love it!

[@mariadanzey3319]

lovely to see real people cooking . down to earth no fancy cooking lovely to watch keep it up .

[@butlersempire]

Thank you so much

[@slapdashdumper]

the Devon pasty has a top-crimp and is oval in shape, whereas the Cornish pasty is semi-circular and side-crimped along the curve.

[@fw6667]

I come from a long line of Cornish families Cornish pasties where traditionally made with shortcrust pastry. The correct filllling for a Cornish pasty is sliced potato sliced skirt of beef sliced swede, onion salt and pepper. The pastry is bought together on the side with a rope crimp. The pasty is eaten by holding the crimp then when you have finished the shortcrust pastry and filling the crimp which by then is dirty is thrown away. I noticed when you were collecting the scraps of puff pastry the scraps were rolled together thus losing all the layers. It would have been better had you laid the layers on top of each other.

[@michaellyne8773]

As always, fabulous tutorial on making home made pasties. They look delicious, still love the gangsters pasty, but all the same, you can't beat home cooked pasties. Thank you both again for sharing your fabulous tutorial. You both make cooking look fun. God bless you both,

[@PeterWasted]

I enjoyed the video. It's good to see real people having real experiences. Just a few observations: All the strange sounding ingredients in the Ginsters Pasty would also be in shop bought pastry, Oxo and Maggi seasoning. A Cornish pasty is made with raw ingredients cooked inside the pastry shell. This means it needs to be cooked long enough for meat and veg to cook and this gives a much darker pastry, which would fit my person taste much better. Cornish pasties don't have a lot of meat and don't have gravy. There was nothing wrong with your pasties but you weren't really trying to copy the Ginsters version, so the comparison doesn't make a lot of sense. For the best results, the pastry needs to be kept as cold as possible before it goes into the oven - warm filling doesn't help. To stick the pastry together, try using water rather than egg - I find it works better. Once you've crimped the seam, put the pasty in the fridge and let the seam firm up before egg washing and putting in the oven. I think yours opened partly because the "glue" hadn't set. Keeping the seam on top is a good idea it took me a long time to figure out. Top seams tend to still keep the filling in even when they burst!

[@butlersempire]

Nice one, Thanks for the info Pete

[@royfearn4345]

Yep, authentic instructions!

[@JeansDolls]

So how long would you cook them with raw ingredients?

[@barneybuster8915]

I love watching you two in the kitchen, fantastic.

[@butlersempire]

Thanks so much

[@dripdrop28]

Proper people making proper no nonsense videos, just love it. Keep up the great work

[@butlersempire]

Much appreciated!

[@sueo2]

I always knew Sharon's pasties would win, I remember the ones she used to make on her day off and bring them in to work, bloody lovely they were. x😋

[@butlersempire]

Haha Sue. Long time ago lol

[@DavidMFranks]

What a great fun video. I've got those small cookers in the campervan, so I am copying this ASAP. Cheers, you two.

[@mikelucas7171]

Just wanted to say I love the style of your videos keep them going. You both come across so well 👍

[@lindaberry4749]

I have been binge watching your recipes & I'm Bloody starving! Thanks x

This was the first video of yours i watched and decided to have a go at following your recipe.The result was delicious and i will never buy another ready made pasty again.Thankyou so much for giving me the confidence to start cooking properly!.

[@butlersempire]

Wonderful!

[@gerryhope3931]

Ex Pat Brit living in Canada, but still love the traditional English grub. Did fish and chips for supper, unfortunately not fresh fish, but still good. Plan to do a beef roast in the air fryer for Sunday, first time for that, so see how that turns out. Had good luck so far so not really worried that it'll be a disaster.

[@KensSmallEngineRepair]

I asked my local baker (USA) if he makes Cornish Pasties and I got a strange look!!

[@anni50ful]

If given you the recipe above,use Shortcrust pastry x

[@jshaw4757]

I belive you should continue this tradition....evertime you see this Butcher ask him if he makes random lesser known local foods untill he thinks your insane...Next time you see him ask if he makes 'jellied ells'...

[@Iveraghboy]

@@jshaw4757 or if he`s got any cockles & muscles 😉

[@haitch04]

Watched this 10 mins ago, mouth still watering! Lovely.

[@vijayantgovender2045]

Wow l love how your homemade pies look going to try your recipe watching from South Africa

[@davemartin4456]

Ive been watching loads of your videos you two are so funny, love it, proper home cooks not chefs. You should definitely bring out a cookbook. Keep up the great work

[@yvonnebass9717]

Thanx to you both my husband wanted to make cornish pasties first time actually making things in the kitchen together made so many that it will be a while b4 we get together again 😂 xx

[@terryneale3086]

What great value. Cheap butchers mince. Diced veg. I’m a big fan of pastry sheets. I always keep foil trays so that would work for the bonus pie. Thanks for posting

[@matejakova]

That looks like a lovely home made pasty… thanks for sharing with us 😃

[@shazzabbegg9934]

Bring on the home cooking. You two are awesome ❤️

[@nikolabailey1837]

Love your videos and the way you speak to each other which makes me smile, lovely couple and easy to follow recipes and we thought your pasty looked great and tasty xxx Please keep the recipes coming thank you x Nikola and Jazmine (Granddaughter).

[@butlersempire]

Thanks for watching, glad you liked the video Nikola and Jazmine.

[@nikolabailey1837]

I am not really a meat eater so wondered if you could do a video on a cheese and onion pasty please ???????? x Thank you very much x

[@caroleclack1396]

Love your videos have helped us to use our air fryer, tried these pasties but i done them in the air fryer and turned them over half way, came out great hubby enjoyed them , thanks 😏

[@butlersempire]

Sounds great Carole.

[@terrieshaw5474]

home made every time folks , well done again love it xx fantastic

[@zoepatterson3643]

I tried this one and there's no comparison, your homemade every time yum yum .

[@oliverfarrow8046]

Can’t beat home made pies. Love your content guys. 👌🏻

[@raibeart1955]

A quick hint (from a Chef) for the off cuts of puff pastry, always fold the pastry off cuts as best you can this helps keep the layers. All the best to you and yours. Subscribed Rab

[@butlersempire]

That's a great idea!

[@nicolasmith1460]

Love this video. It’s the kind of cooking we would do. And we would make more mistakes! But it’s good to see honest experimentation. You should have made it easier by just wrapping them the same as gingsters did. Great vid I will try!

[@danskitchengardenallotment8286]

Wow that's really nice To make the tops more darker and shiny Like the Shop brought Paste Just use egg yolk And you will get a darker top

[@marierogers61]

They look lovely with loads of filling.

[@froggygirl1944]

Maggi seasoning contains Monosodium Glutamate. Check the label carefully.

[@butlersempire]

There's nothing wrong with msg, do your research.

[@carolgodber2830]

I love my ninja dual air fryer, but your videos have made me try a whole lot of new recipes, I've enjoyed them all but one, my taste is to blame, not the recipe. I saw one of your videos whilst looking for some air fry ideas, and so glad I did. Your wonderful, down to earth banter is great. Thank you for your money saving ideas and fun videos, please keep them coming.

[@butlersempire]

Glad you like them!

[@jeanniecarpenter6313]

Lovely video. Enjoyed every bit. Will have a go at making these myself. Thanks folks.

[@stevenhull5025]

Subscribed. Love your cooking videos with your Ninja. You have convinced me to buy one.

[@butlersempire]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@joanware6473]

Those Cornish pasties look gorgeous, I bought a Cornish pasty from a shop in Devon years ago and was lovely, mass produced cannot give you that, I thought the leftover that went into that sweet little pie dish was the bee`s knee`s.

[@davestatham812]

Ohh Martin and Sharon, them home made pasties looked incredible, just like mum used to make, mouth watering, well done, 👍🏻🎯

[@butlersempire]

Thanks so much

[@puffyjet]

Oh my god proper grub again no contest the home made ones for us every time , We always find with the jinsters pastie s they are always very peppery what a great video from you both we have picked up a few more tips learning while you watch very good food being made what's not to like , Brilliant Work . Kevbo&Jackie

[@isopdt]

Your pasties were superb! who would ever buy Gingsters? a great vid and thanks for sharing.

[@junescully2925]

Must admit Sharon I prefer your pasties the filling looks so scrummy well done you cannot beat homemade xx😊😊

[@sheilagarrido8204]

Ohhhh, just me . Back again. That pie looks excellent! High class. You could make a livin' out of selling them🎉

[@mamnan8953]

Wow Martin I'm very impressed good job Mr Butler 👏

[@julietaylor540]

You are such a lovely couple I've been very poorly recently but watching you cheers me up and makes me hungry xx

[@butlersempire]

Sorry to hear that

[@lindarylands6685]

Fabulous I’ll try yours they look delicious xx

[@AncientHermit]

That was really good. 👍Of course the next step might be; why not try the CrimpIt. OK different shape, but you'd have to try it in the AirFryer too I think. 🤔 Now we are almost in the jaws of Christmas you have to wonder how would it be with puff pastry stuffed with mincemeat in the AirFryer, for your very own spin on CrimpIt Christmas Mince Pies. Or is that Crimpmas Mince Pies?😀 I would try it all myself, but not quite made the decision to go with an AirFryer, and they are a bit scarce right now anyway.🤨 Be well.😉

[@ajohnson2381]

Love your channel, reminds me of Fanny Craddock and Johnny😀No carrots in a genuine Cornish pasty though and beef skirt is the original choice rather than mince.

[@Greg_Romford]

I think you may be missing a trick; if, rather than pouring off the liquid produced when cooking the beef, you cook the beef until the liquid evaporates you add more flavour to the dish.

[@lyndaodell3619]

Always made my own pies no chemicals I buy the best meat nothing like homemade.My aunt and grandmother both cooks my aunt was a pastry chef.Both of them worked in grand London houses. My children had homemade everything cheese onion and potato pasties,quiches.meat pies.What you have just demonstrated is why I hate mass produced muck full of vile chemicals. Well done you show it does not take that long to make your own,much cheaper and far superior quality chemical free.Make the time it’s worth it.If you put the filling in a sieve to just drain off the excess liquid .

[@valeriebaxter2354]

Were these cooked in the air fryer or oven? Put a dollop of jam on the small left bits for a jam tart pud for afters!

[@jeanparkin3446]

My mouth was watering while you both eating you pasties Sharon will be making these x

[@danelectro68]

I’ve gotta be honest, I’ve never been a lover of shortcrust, BUT, I would have your shortcrust pasty over the puff and ginsters, I always find they’re quite over peppery too. Nice comparison 👍

[@sharonnewell4832]

Hi loving your channel, bumped into pure by accident and love you guys, may I suggest for cooking your veg, a steamer, game changer no more boiling pans or stove top and all done in about 25 mins ❤️

[@stevev3664]

I have a electric pie maker to make small pies. It’s a two pie machine but four pie and larger pie machines can be bought. Not expensive and pies cook quickly. Probably cheaper than using the oven. You might want to check them out. Thanks for the video.

[@butlersempire]

Sounds great!

[@caroleshaw9822]

I have a two pie maker as well. Makes lovely deep pies. I made egg n bacon in it and they were sooo good. Making curry pies next!...

[@stevev3664]

@@caroleshaw9822 Curry pies sounds good. I will have to try it.

[@caroleshaw9822]

@@stevev3664 do you blind bake the base of your pies prior to adding the filling and topping your pies? I did with my lot, but wondering if I should bother...?

[@stevev3664]

@@caroleshaw9822 I don’t think it’s necessary. I haven’t blind baked any.

[@harpsam64]

You can use the paper from the pastry for laying into your fair fryer, just did it for my sausage rolls, first atempt brilliant thanks,

[@hastalloyking]

Good job there , thanks i will have a go

[@conradcoates7704]

hi did you freeze after cooking then just reheat when ready or could you freeze before cooking as not sure potatoes would go black if they were not cook first thanks

[@stephenkelly5642]

wow them homemade pie's look amazing. far exceeding the factory one's.

[@DisneyMarkUK]

You’ve inspired me to make these, thank you so much

[@deborahcorey7562]

Super pastie taste test and cook off👌Sharon & Martin 👍🏻 Thank you we have to revive the old skills so the next generation don't Starve ❤️ You Guys are doing sterling work love what you're doing ❤️ xxxxxxxx

[@butlersempire]

Thanks Deborah.

[@christinefaulkner5220]

Just subscribed. Love your home verses shop pies, yours look great, will try in my new airfryer❤

[@butlersempire]

Thanks for subbing!

[@tinkeringtaylor3053]

Now Martin- Sharon the home made ones looked really good made me hungry well done.

[@sandrachurch9031]

I'm learning that you should never watch your videos before you've eaten. I'm starving now and my stomach thinks my throats cut. 😂 Loving your work both of you.

[@alandykes2519]

I'm on my way over Lol they look like the best pasties in the country Spot on Sharon and Martin 👍👍👍👍

[@Colin623]

I must try this myself, but I agree with your conclusion about Ginster pasties, too much pepper flavour which dominates the palette.

[@marlenetalmondt3675]

I enjoyed watching you both, the pasties looke lovel,.I don’t buy Ginsberg now their potato in pasty always hard, yuk .yours looked miles better. X

[@angelagilmore5503]

Where did you get the camping cooker from please the one I bought on line burst into flame!! Love your chanel

[@butlersempire]

Amazon Angela

[@Etheleneglycol]

They should never be used indoors and cost more to run than a mains gas hob. Buy a portable induction hob instead

[@RobertSmith-cv1cu]

Yes you are right with the skirt. Brisket slow cooked will work also. Yours looked lovely but to be fair they are minced beef and veg pies as opposed to cornish pastries. But they did look tasty.

[@tracydobson8898]

Were did you buy the meat pie tray please been looking everywhere

[@martinsmith1447]

Bloody mouth is watering lol. Me old dear makes cheese straws with the left over pastry! Thanks for sharing

[@butlersempire]

Thanks for watching

[@garyclifton2180]

Yours looked fantastic lol let me no next time Ur baking I'll nip over lol drooling here haha x

[@Doug....]

Just had my breakfast and then watched this. Delicious and i could wolf one of those down right now 🤤😋

[@Doug....]

It never ceases to amaze me at the number of ignorant comments people make about how they didnt like what u said or they would do it better 🙄 Keep doing what YOU do please. 👍

[@mrdyson5175]

I just love to watch your vidios and I hope you continue to entertain and educate. fantastic.

[@eddiebrockbank6517]

Could you cook them all in the air fryer ?

[@juliejr]

Home cooked every time 👍..love how you keep your video's real, you two could be everyone's friend.. ♥

[@butlersempire]

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video Julie.

[@caroleshaw9822]

I agree. I feel like you both are friends we haven't met yet. x

[@jameswalley134]

Loved your video as much as I love pasties !!! What a lovely couple.

[@butlersempire]

Thanks so much! 😊

[@sheilagarrido8204]

Fantastic Folks👍💯 and great economics. You should both be working in running the country. We'd all be a lot better off. Thanks a bunch Sharon & Martin. Pasties looking really tasty. ❤😘💯

[@butlersempire]

Thank you so much Sheila😁

[@tracydobson8898]

I made cornbeef pasties in my crimpet with shortcrust pastry they were rather big but nice just thought I would give you an idea

[@jimlil1]

Hi Martin & Sharon can you freeze these before or after cooking kind regards Jimmy

[@butlersempire]

Yes you can Jim.

[@denisebell8422]

Can I ask what are them little cookers called please 🤔

[@butlersempire]

Just camping stoves Denise.

[@joyandrew3265]

Pasty with pork and parsley my gran use to here in Cornwall lovely

[@fahimmahmad9731]

Nice videos 📹 where did you get the small stainless steel pie dish I'd like to get some ! Thanks for sharing your fantastic video's 📹 I've subscribed 😀 👍

[@butlersempire]

there's a link below our latest video.

[@fahimmahmad9731]

@@butlersempire hi I can't find under the link is this your latest video one or am I looking in the wrong area 🤔

[@butlersempire]

@@fahimmahmad9731 is this what you are after amzn.to/3WBi2dm

[@fahimmahmad9731]

@@butlersempire hi no you made pasty's they pastry that was left over your wife made a small pie dish the dish was oblong not round that was the last thing you were testing the small pie done in stainless Steel small oblong pie dish sorry to be such a pain 😀

[@fahimmahmad9731]

@@butlersempire just played back the video you got it out the oven it's a small metal pie dish 😀

[@alanloan66]

Bought a couple a week ago and it said beef pasty not Cornish I wonder if there two different pasties ?

[@jeancant1144]

I have just moved to a new bungalow and it’s all electric cooking and I have never used the electric oven before so I was wondering if you could tell me the make of your little gas tops you use is it easy as I am 85 and I am learning how to use air cooker so I saw you with the little gas hob love your shows keep going love it🥟🥩🥪

[@butlersempire]

Ours is called a Marksman.

[@jeancant1144]

@@butlersempire THANKYOU

[@grahamsymons6299]

No mince or carrots in a pasty and the crimp on the top is the Devon pasty crimp you should use skirt and swed

[@butlersempire]

You can make a pasty out of what you want. This was our choice, not a traditional Cornish pasty.

[@walthamwalker]

Ginsters as pronounced like the drink lol you can get in a four in a pack for about 4 quid Would like to try home made Cornish pasties Great video folks 👍👍👍👍

[@bigsteve9291]

Good compassion guys the prof in the pudding or pastie as they say lol great video loved the content and the banter very entertaining and informative thanks for sharing now am retired a can do a lot more cooking definitely going to try this 1 question though guys where did you get the Maggie's seasoning please never seen it before and not being a lover of Worcestershire sauce loved to try that thanks guys

[@butlersempire]

You can get it in Sainsburys Steve or even Amazon amzn.to/3HEjrsu

[@karendyba5213]

They look lovely will try and make those x

[@royjacques5650]

Hi i have got a set of paste cutters

[@wickedwitch4473]

Luvin your vids..Can u tell me where u buy those little stoves from ..They are amazing

[@butlersempire]

Amazon and Ebay plus most camping stores.

[@dentray]

Mate "Tidi oggi" last one is the go with the short crust but the pie is also the go! Thanks :)

[@thomaseland3136]

Add a small knob of butter before sealing

[@81Dann]

Martin, as a Cornishman myself I can assure you that Ginster thing would be banned from here….. it offends the Cornish calling that a pasty…. Come down and get a real one….

[@brianhume4743]

So will I go to Scotland for a haggis

[@HepcatHarley]

Everything looked delicious, especially your home made pasties and pie :)

[@butlersempire]

Thanks so much! 😊