Buy And Re-Sell Someone Else’s Firewood? Right Or Wrong?

We are officially out of ready to burn firewood for our indoor burning customers and had a repeat customer put in an order so we had to buy someone else’s firewood to fill the order
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[@HometownAcres]

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[@ronaldferino3414]

Both parties profited, customer was satisfied, everybody's happy that' a good day in my world!!!!

[@leovogelgesang4398]

Its called business. I pay your price for your products it becomes my products. What i do with my products after that is none of your business!

[@paulheidbreder]

Buying a product and selling it for a profit is Business 101. Your rationale and motive are perfectly reasonable.There are a few people out there who never want to see anyone else make a dime. You're happy, Matt is happy. Your customer is happy. Sounds like it worked out well. Love your content. I always appreciate your CPA point of view... although you bean counters can drive me nuts... Ha!

[@nickmaclachlan5178]

Yeah delivering to those rich people in their McMansions, they can afford the price hike anyways.........

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Really interesting

[@johncoleman8793]

The explanation of that kiln operation was fascinating. Super appreciate the video and his willingness to explain.

[@DKrage01]

Reselling goods is what most retail stores have done forever. I started reselling bulk landscaping mulch in 1996 out of the back of the gas station I owned (where, by the way, I resold gasoline refined by someone else). The mulch business grew to the point I split it off to its own location and it continued to grow. At the time I sold the company and retired I was reselling kiln dried firewood as well as mulch. You are correct that there isn’t as much profit reselling as making your own but it is possible to make a living…. Ethically.

[@jaket9854]

The only time reselling bothers me is when a farmer begs me for hay cause there short, so i sell them some at a fair price, than find out they sold it to sombody at double the money. They only buy from me once when that happens.

[@davidedwards3734]

This is really what wholesalers do!! Great video Adam!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

[@da1shark]

I agree, this is just like the wholesale model. Businesses buy from a wholesaler to sell to their end customers. You provided the extra value by picking up from another area and delivering it to your customer (you added value).

[@SteveAustin-jp3ev]

1st to comment from Western North Carolina. I'm jealous of all the nice equipment you have. I do not own a truck. I do not own a splitter. All I have is three chainsaws a bad back and asthma

[@atomicwedgie8176]

Well, you are the Bionic Man... so, you got that going for ya.

[@outdoorsinthe608]

Retaining the customer is key! Wouldn’t both me and bit. Great job Adam👍👍

[@mitchc3771]

We have found that producing firewood and delivering firewood is two separate business. It is impossible to produce 300 cords a year than turn around and delivery that ( with just yourself). We exclusively flip firewood now, roughly 300 cords a year we have three suppliers they produce firewood for us we buy it sell it.

[@Nicholaskleyn]

Keeping the customer happy.

[@Nicholaskleyn]

Sometimes I say. “Your lack of planning does not constitute an emergency on my behalf”. But other times, I just make it work to keep them happy.

[@MW-bz1qe]

Adam, Once again, a great video "ride along" . That's what makes your channel different. You take us along for your adventures to introduce us to other people who are into the same things we are here to learn more about. And of course, we cant help but subscribe to their channel if they have one ! Thanks again from Ohio ! 😊

[@BacktoBob1]

That was fun to watch. Quite the operation and volume to keep 3 kilns running.

[@glenndufrene6276]

You are being a smart business man in keeping a repeat customer happy know matter what. I think you made smart move.

[@Scott___T]

Sounds like you came up with a solution to keep your customers happy. Business is business; especially if your customers order more later this year

[@cattigereyes1]

So you need a small kiln to dry a cord or two. A solar, wind kiln add 2 dehumidifier’s running on the panels and wind turbine system. Fans and the box is insulated and for a small investment it will pay for itself over time.

[@maddierosemusic]

You sold a product that was not even the same as Matt's - your delivery alone is value added. Good video.

[@DDL2728]

I totally agree with what you said - as long as the person sells his product for his price, you are free to sell it & make money!! Your client got what he needed, & since Matt doesn't supply that area, you didn't step on any toes!! None of us are in business to lose money/do anything for free. This was so interesting!! Matt explained it all so well! You had great questions - really good video, as always!! God bless you and your family! 🙏♥️🙏

[@HometownAcres]

Thank you Dianne. Glad you found it interesting

[@johnkirby6547]

Very cool kiln setup, thanks for sharing. Always try to keep the customers happy and they will stay with you.

[@jacklachman5304]

Good afternoon everyone!… Adam, if the guy you’re buying it from doesn’t care. Then I say go for it. Thanks for the tour too Have a day

[@Cdnarmyvet]

Hey Adam, great video. I have an idea for you to think on…for your sawdust discharge, why not take an IBC bladder, cut the front out of it like a window and then mount it to a pallet, make it easier to handle by machine and contain more of the sawdust/chips?

[@douggibson9084]

Excellent video Adam. You need Doug on the task! Shelter Logic brown or black sheds in the late spring to early fall will shorten your seasoning time because the shed will give you the temperature. Now you need the air flow and controled with a humidity gauge at the outflow to tell what the bundle is at to test. This will speed up the process. Heat is the most expensive factor control that and the other 2 are easy. (Intake and exhaust= air flow) Enjoy

[@jfitz9624]

I remember the original video of his operation years ago. Still really cool to see. I’ve been thinking about building a kiln. For people with a smaller operation like mine, it would work well. Big enough for about 2 cords. With an cheap oldschool forced hot air wood furnace with a big firebox you could probably get away with one load a day. But twice a day would likely be better for more stable temps inside the kiln. You could definitely do once a day loads with a big boiler and a water to air heat exchanger an dhave very consistent heat output thoughout the 24hr burn. A 20ft shipping container would be the perfect size kiln chamber.

[@chickenneck]

I really enjoyed the thorough kiln portion.

[@elaczi]

You did the right thing. No issues with it at all. Good video 👍

[@jeremyj612]

Nice video! No problem flipping this order at all. One way to look at it is the profit you made was the fee to find the customer and deliver. The higher price for the customer is just the price you have to pay for seasoned wood in January. Worked out for everyone.

[@ianpatti7101]

great video, the guy with the kiln was very informative

[@jimburge5298]

Another great video Adam. As far as the “dilemma” goes, Adam we all purchase products from somebody that has bought them or produced them cheaper than the price we pay for them as the customer. It’s a free market economy 👍🏻👍🏻. Keep up the great work.

[@savvy1803]

It would be nice to have some detailed info on those baskets the skid steer used to load your trailer Adam , that might make a good video itself ... thanks for sharing .

[@mikefromwv1010]

I wouldn't care what you did with it as long as I got what I needed out of it. Enjoyed the video very much it's nice to see different ideas and ways of doing the same job .

[@danechristian1768]

Thank you for the tour. It was very interesting.

[@carolinegreenwell9086]

Wow. The houses you delivered the wood to were so palatial. Obviously a very wealthy area.

[@JCWren]

The subdivision is probably named something like Towering Oaks. My theory is subdivisions are named after what they destroyed to build them. Also, can you imagine what the HOA fees are like? No thanks!

[@davidhickenbottom6574]

This is my first year selling bagged firewood. I live on a very busy road ive sold over 700 bags. I'm buying green cord wood and re splitting and stacking for next year. My guys gives my name out for small quantities.

[@user-scooter1965]

Very interesting video Adam. It's great that your are willing to be flexible in order to keep loyal customers.

[@mike.the.estimator704]

Thank you for showing this type of video! This is awesome!! A more indepth version of how its made!!!

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

Interesting process. I had no idea how involved those kilns were. Good stuff buddy!

[@HometownAcres]

You wanna make one? I’ll get the Halloween candy

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

@@HometownAcres hah! Youll just eat it all

[@Texrc]

Great video! I always say we can take care of you.. I’m working on poor man’s Kiln let you know when I get it running

[@scottburk4083]

If he is ok with it,it should not be a problem. Especially if it is not in his service area. In todays market you need to do whatever it takes to maintain a business model. He made his money and you made yours. Have a good one Adam,take care and God Bless!!!❤😊

[@haroldmessimer4949]

Great question Adam. I too sell firewood but not to the scale that you do. Towards the end of the winter season, I have a colleague in which I sell him my firewood at a given price and he too flips it and sells to his customers. I look at it this way, I’m making what I want out of a load of firewood. If he can get more, that’s a win for me and a win for him. It helps two families. I see no wrong in this. It helps unload my inventory and also helps him provide his customer base. So that’s my view from Matt’s perspective. Hope that helps.

[@nolongerhave-couth4771]

Thanks for the vid on the firewood kilns.

[@billh2735]

Very interesting video Adam. I don't know why it would bother anybody because that's exactly how wholesaling works. This type of buying and reselling has been going on since the beginning of time. Anyway, stay safe, healthy and warm. Bill H from Cranberry Township

[@jordanglenna5136]

It wouldn’t bother me if someone did that, especially since you discussed it. Also, that was a very nice neighborhood you delivered to. Huge homes.

[@nealtubbs9608]

Loved the video. I wouldn’t care if someone bought my wood and resold. As you said I’d be getting my asking price so all would be good on my end.

[@robert.brokaw3829]

Like you said Adam - what you do with a product that you purchased is no one else's business. If the sell made his profit - for them it ends there. Stay safe.

[@kennethconaway3501]

The kiln dryers are very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[@stuckinmygarage6220]

I learned I will just be happy to buy. 👍🙂 And I learned more about the best time to buy, haha

[@toddpacheco4748]

Adam, I was wondering if you were thinking about making the same kind of holder that Matt uses it looks a lot easier getting the wood out then a ibc holder maybe 🤔 Doug would fabricate a few of them to test out 😮😊❤

[@crazyman3157]

Great video Adam. In all honesty, every industry has in some way, shape, or form have done or will do what you did. It is a win win, if both parties are in agreement and you did not take away from each others customer, both made a profit, and both are good with the deal being it was fully disclosed on both sides. Interesting to see a large operation kiln and how they work. Great information and insight as well. As always, great content.

[@TheWoodSnob]

I do the same thing from time to time, with local firewood producers who don't want to deliver. They know I'm reselling, and I'm providing a service they don't want to do so we all benefit.

[@davidepperson2376]

Hey - re. a prev. Video, you should consider a simple mod to you IBC containers - cut, weld and then hinge the bottoms so you can just pull a pin and drop the whole thing in your trailer.

[@blacklabflies]

Business is business. All retail business is reselling something for a profit. Sometimes you are reselling a finished product and sometimes you are finishing a product out to sell. Quality control and maintaning inventor to meet demand are important. You made the right call and it will pay off. Like the LS.

[@theodoreboyd2149]

Good morning Adam, it's no different than going to a grocery store. Say the store chain buys their eggs from a farmer/ producer for $1.00 a dozen. They turn around and sell it in their store for $ 3.00 a dozen. Everybody is happy. ( except the consumer, lol )

[@jamesgaul1022]

Excellent video. You should have taken neighbor Doug with you to check out the kilns. What an interesting business.

[@Comm0ut]

Whatever makes a worthwhile, ethical profit is "right" and your supplier may be delighted to have a bulk customer. When your customers buy they are happy. When your suppliers sell to you they are happy. When you turn a dollar you are happy. I learned that from my antique car restorer mentor many decades ago. His business was word of mouth so happy dealings were worth a lot of money.

[@Beachwriter]

Very interesting, Adam. Enjoyed the new perspective.

[@ian3580]

Love the video. I've mentioned this before on a few videos, and I see it here again - the music is SO LOUD compared to the narration and I have to constantly adjust volume and it kills my ears with headphones. Adjusting volume to be fairly equal across the video is so nice for viewers.

[@hpw59]

Once again great content. Had no idea how much a kiln cost.

[@atomicwedgie8176]

Those were used?

[@adirondackwoodsman]

Good video! Those kilns are stupid expensive for the little guy.

[@Garrett572xpg]

Great video. I bought a wood furnace last winter to build my own firewood kiln which i need to do yet. I know how i want to build it but want to have it in the right location to make loading it and unloading cages easy to do and make sure its the right size to stack cages in but still have room for fans. also need to have dry storage shed to keep the dry firewood out of the rain til its delivered and sold

[@offthetrailsoutdoors]

Awesome video. I really enjoyed it, learned a lot! I'm from PA

[@darthgbc363]

Always say yes to a customer, even if you have to farm out the work.

[@markfrye9178]

Interesting field trip!

[@peterh9927]

I sell mosty retail firewood in my area. The few wholesale customers i have pick it up in my wood yard, and deliver to their customer. It's only about 20 cords a year. Very easy to sell to them, and would do more of this in the future.

[@tommybedard4649]

When I started my seasoned firewood business … I bought kiln dried firewood, bundled it and sold it until the first load of wood I had was dry almost 8 months later … after I had enough dry inventory I phased this out … but that’s how I got started.

[@thedelcodave]

What you described is the wholesale business model. Most industries operate that way. Large scale operations often only deal business to business in large quantity. Smaller operations handles the Business to Consumer markets. As long as both parties made a profit they are happy with nothing wrong with flipping some firewood.

[@EverythingElliott]

If you trust the product, and can purchase it at a price you can make money on it after taking all costs into consideration, there's no reason not to do it. It's no different than large companies buying product at discounted rates and selling to the consumer at retail value.

[@Guywithcrazyideas]

You sir have a bright future.

[@Multipotentialitis]

Could put up a simple solar kiln near wood yard, maybe 12ft depth x 24ft width and 12ft ceiling height to get 2 rows of 6 pallets of wood and maybe double stack an extra row depending on slope of roof.

[@nelsonstree436]

The best time of year for anyone to buy firewood is spring and that's what you use for next year

[@allenheuker7339]

Sounds like a win for both of you

[@andhisband]

Adam, you added value to the product by delivering it, so it shouldn't bother anyone that you resold it and made a profit.

[@budcanter9747]

That was a very interesting video as others have mentioned.👍👍🇺🇸

[@Doallhunting]

I have 200 cords of firewood size, green maple trees on the ground right now that you can have but you have to pick it up in CT.

[@hammerdown184]

In the past I’ve sold my firewood to resellers. It’s great I hate deliveries and dealing with customers. Definitely a win win!

[@Hootin_Holler]

Awesome video Adam! And, those firewood baskets though! 🔥🔥🔥

[@josephpatterson2722]

simple thought.... now that you got that bigger tractor, get a set of forks for the back, carry two baskets at a time from your processing area to the drying area, cut your trips in half save fuel

[@cowboyjoyandtheRoughCuts]

Sunday morning viewer here ~ Last summer I ran out of dry wood August 1st. My first whole sale account wanted more Bundles....in the panic I decided to buy a cord from another person in another town. He and his young boy's were happy and I tipped the boy's for helping load my trailer...it was a fun experience. This spring I will make contact with him again, should I tell him up front that I am flipping his wood. IDK??? In the end it worked for all of us, however this summer I may run out of wood again (a good problem with a dilemma, LOL) so I believe it is good to have a network of woodhounds like Hometown Acres has built. Also want to do my first real youtube video with all the Kool editing and music...Hahahaha on my channel now I have a couple of shorts. Keith aka CBJ

[@fredgrove1133]

Fascinating! Thanks Adam.

[@BarnyardEngineering]

You must charge a lot more than the $60 to $85 a cord for firewood they charge around here. I cut my own and I would estimate I have 5-6 hours in sawing, splitting, and handling a cord of wood. $10 an hour I'd never be able to justify that fancy firewood processor, the truck, tractor, trailer....

[@BlackMan614]

Great video. Always wondered how the kiln process worked. 2 years for oak? I have a downed oak I bucked/split and was hoping to burn it after drying 18 months. And I have 1 which fell and domino'd 2 others which I have to get to this year. Never ends.

[@GeoffryWK]

Well, living in South Carolina, there are a lot of tobacco dryers that are not being used because some farmers quit growing tobacco years ago. And the ones that still do, they just harvest it and sell it off to the corporation to dry and process. Might be something you could look into if you want to kiln dry your own wood. One I know of near where I live, there are 4 and haven't been used since I moved here in 2011. I think they could be converted to a wood kiln.

[@donnairn3419]

If you are selling it for more you must be adding value. He gest his price the customer is happy and you make some money. If he wants more for his wood he should charge more.

[@nickjurmann8266]

Hey Adam, no it wouldn't bother me one bit. He got his asking price so whatever u do with it shouldn't matter. I have come across people who would be very angry if people did that to them. U aren't doing anything wrong in my eyes. Keep up the content. I watch all you vlogs.👍👍

[@donaldleblanc3056]

I’m involved in research. We regularly talk about what our service is worth. My conclusion is that it is worth whatever someone will pay for it, and what we are prepared to sell it for. Example I always use is a bottle of water. Pennies from the tap, several cents if you buy a case, and a dollar or more to buy a single bottle. (More if at an airport). And if you were packing gold out of the desert, and you had the last full bottle, my guess is you could trade it for its weight in gold. So buying and reselling, no problem. With a slight caveat that “profiteering” has a bunch of negative connotations. What you did to keep a good customer happy, top marks sir.😊

[@AlexeiTetenov]

Thank you for sharing!

[@pierrelarocque3214]

Having a few high volume professional customers is much easier to manage than a bunch of retail customers who might or might not know about what they are talking about.

[@NikeHM69]

You could probably build your own kiln using an old shipping container, wood boiler, and blower for under 25k. But like you said, for a small operation like yours you may be better off just increasing your inventory from the year before. Btw, I don't think there's anything wrong with selling something that you paid for, if that were the case used cars wouldn't exist and realtors would go out of business.

[@wadeprunty]

You need those swinging front panels on your totes!

[@davidignacio3009]

As a businessman your primary concern is your customer,. On the point of view of your supplier, Where you get your product and for as long as you pay your supplier the money he wants he should not have any influence on how you conduct your business. on the other side (POV of customer) For as long as your customer is satisfied, and/or fulfilled his need and secondly , if the product is equal or better value, then there's nothing wrong with reselling. You are providing a service.

[@andrewruskuski8093]

Matt’s firewood could try starting with a fuel surcharge for picking up from the mills to offset his cost

[@OneEyeCustoms]

Nothing wrong with what you are doing! Oh buy the way, I’m setting up a roadside stand. $18.50 a load.😂

[@HometownAcres]

As long as you’re buying it from my stand for $20 I don’t care what you do with it after lol! 😬

[@OneEyeCustoms]

@@HometownAcres hahahaha ok, I’ll have to mark it up a bit then.

[@martinehammond4126]

I make and sell kindling sticks. As long as I get what I'm after per net I'm not bothered what the customer chooses to do with the product after that. If they want to sell the nets on for further profit there after, it doesn't bother me and I'm happy for them as it's repeat custom for me.

[@jimputnam2044]

Reselling is what every company does, some stuff goes through a lot of people from producer to consumer. Track a side of beef from farm to fork..Bet you get at least 5 stops and price adjustments.

[@JohnSmith-tv5ep]

Adam, I read through the comments and many agree. I on the other hand , have an issue. When a person asks ," can you help me out, I have a need ?" . And you help fulfill that need, only to find out you have been duped on what you gave has been sold for a profit. BUT, in the end, lessons are learned. That's just my opinion.

[@HometownAcres]

So I should have driven 5 hours that day for free?

[@JohnSmith-tv5ep]

@@HometownAcres No, Adam, in your situation, Matt knew EXACTLY what you were doing,..."buying"and selling his product. I was commenting on the fact of "being taken advantage of",or being misled. If you PAY for the product,.. at their cost, I don't have any problem with reselling to cover your own cost, but if the product was "given" to you, and you sell it to make a profit, then yes, I have an issue. That's what I believe.

[@bioniclife]

Keeping market share is important. 👍

[@nabat7]

have done this for 2 years buying product that you dont produce saves you time and makes you coin i produce 1500m3 a year and add on around 500m3 for winter after i sell out keeps the truck moving

[@erichandyauto]

That's business. I worked at a Sears Automotive Center. We'd add a 40% mark-up on all parts that we acquired from OEM dealers or aftermarket parts houses.