Buy This 1/10 Pre-Runner Kit in 2024?

It's nearly 5 years old but it looks and drives like something new. These are still for sale and if you like the sound of trailing arms, floating motor and gearbox and very neutral handling in the air, this rig may appeal.
Let me show you what it's all about!
What this is: Kyosho Rampage Outlaw Pro ARTR kit
$223 on Amazon: amzn.to/3Usg3YN
Parts I used:
Hobbywing 10BL120 and 3660 G2 3700kv brushless combo: asiate.es/aff?l=214227&i=76070
jxServo WP5323LV servo: asiate.es/aff?l=190715&i=76070
Flysky Noble NB4 Pro: amzn.to/3JNH2sK
(But I'd recommend Flysky GT5 (w/Gyro): asiate.es/aff?l=150074&i=76070 )
(Wheels, tires and body included in kit.)
Manufacturer's site: kyoshoamerica.com/34362.html
It's expensive, but there's a steel gear upgrade: amzn.to/3JSeheI
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[@speckledjim_]

Losi likes this short course config. I like the A arms all round but im really not fussy. Love the show buddy 👏👏

[@RCTNT]

A-arms all round is best for general performance, no doubt about it! And thanks! I appreciate it.

[@frooglepete]

Love it - can't wait to see your round up

[@RCTNT]

It's been a while coming but it'll be good

[@glennzlotowski8020]

I just saw this video , an hour ago i ordered the pro kit . Last one a- main hobbies

[@RCTNT]

I have replaced my 48p spur gear with a 32p one. Nothing else was really needed, I like this vehicle! Hope you enjoy yours too.

[@MechanicallyFun]

Great run, the look of it is really nice👍🏼

[@RCTNT]

It is a pretty vehicle, yeah!

[@mattiasrc]

A bit funny that you bring this out today. Yesterday i ordered the rtr version, there was a crazy sale on them ( 50% off) couldnt resist it for that price hahaha.

[@RCTNT]

Lol nice, that's a steep discount! Hope you enjoy it!

[@WestyCoastHermit]

I'm happy you took a look at this. I've always loved the look of this truck, and it's seems to be a decent little performer. I like it as a fun, good looking mild basher. Good stuff!

[@RCTNT]

Thanks Chris. If you go in expecting exactly that, I think it'll delight and entertain for many sessions 😎

[@JIPPERR_1]

Love my Outlaw Rampage Pro! I use it around the yard. Not the fastest or the basherest but i love watching it move and its a great driving rc too. Does really well in tighter courses and can take a good jump as well. Try swapping in a different pinion and you'll get maybe less noise.

[@RCTNT]

Thanks for that! I've got a steel spur gear coming so we'll see how that goes. Steel usually means more noise, but this time, who knows. Love how you wrote that, by the way. It's a perfect summary of the thing!

[@Gerar79]

I think this Kyosho is very beautiful with that classic and simple air that is very realistic in scale. I have not driven it and I found it very interesting that it is easier to drive than a UDR or the Baja Rey 2.0, I would never have said, being rear-wheel drive. Later he may come home. A greeting from Spain

[@RCTNT]

That's a good point, yes - the 4wd cars should be easier to control, you'd think! But I really found this one to be so predicable, it was really nice to drive! Cheers

[@pocketfuloducks1062]

Variety is the spice of life! These are spicy times!

[@RCTNT]

Lol I can't argue with that

[@rc.remedy]

Cool looking truck, always liked the SCT style stuff but never ended up getting one

[@RCTNT]

They are fun, though like for you, crawling is still my main draw 😊

[@rcarty419]

These are so good looking! Bummer on the tire fix the spur so you can rip. Lots of this style car out there for sure! Moa!!!!

[@RCTNT]

Lol yes, and these are all easy enough to fix. Honestly, even when a solution isn't made for a particular car, you can often retrofit it with a mix of parts to make it work. My Hpi Jumpshot SC V2 is now running 32 pitch gearing that wasn't made for it and its much better. I'd have done the same for this if someone wasn't already making steel gears for it. I'll fix the tire and hey, I still have 2 spares here too 😎 It's a great car.

[@DurpVonFronz]

Very kewl rig man, love me some MOA and like you said, its probably reason this thing is awesome.

[@RCTNT]

I never liked MOA with the tamiya buggies but they've done a great job with it here

[@TrokaRC]

Nice got the red version. 👍

[@Molekulasti]

I almost bought this a couple of years ago. Loved the concept. 48 pitch was a deal breaker.

[@RCTNT]

I found a steel spur on AliExpress, so now I think we're sorted!

[@hollyhillrc]

Good video. I admire your ability to control it so well with a brushless system, especially with the giro turned off. I bought this kit 4 years ago and I put a Traxxas Titan 12t 550 brushed motor and a Traxxas XL5 EZ Set ESC in it, and I have to admit I struggle to drive it in a straight line at speed. The last time I took it out for a run I actually set the ESC to "Training Mode" (50% speed) which I found more controllable. I love the retro look of it which is why I bought it, and why I still have it, but being more of a trail truck enthusiast I find faster 2WD drive RC's a bit of a handful. I've recently bought a Dumbo TX with a giro receiver for it but haven't had the chance to try it out yet. I do however love to drive my old brushless 4WD Axial Yeti Score Trophy Truck which for me is a more controllable and a whole lot of fun. Thanks for this video. I really enjoyed it. Derek 🙂👍🏼👍🏼 ps: Have you got the link to the metal spur gear you mentioned in another comment pease. Thank you.

[@RCTNT]

Thank you! Well, a gyro will really help you, and the standard DumboRC one with the X6FG receiver will do the job just fine. Steel spur here: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mNFs40q Cheers

[@hollyhillrc]

@@RCTNT Thank you 🙂👍🏼👍🏼

[@RCTNT]

@hollyhillrc no worries! Hope it does the trick. Happy driving 😊

[@EriMCardenasRC]

Awesome body👌im buying one just for how it looks i might put a bit bigger tires just for display

[@RCTNT]

It is pretty, yeah!

[@TuxStang]

Great truck, love mine. About the spur, they are prone to die quickly ...some where even wrapped/oval from the factory. Team Asso ASC9653 was the got direct replacement back when it was released .... better lifetime and less transmission noise. Or you can go to full metal gearing, though not cheap ... still haven't driven mine since I installed them. Other issue is the steering arms popping once in a while. Change the spur, tighten the slipper, drive it like you stole it.

[@RCTNT]

I found a steel spur gear for it on AliExpress so now that is the plan!

[@alans4281]

I used 64 pitch for years on road. Hardly had any issues other than rocks = sand getting caught up. Mind you it was all 7.2 volts.

[@RCTNT]

I did say off-road, yes. On road would be fine. Particularly on lower power, and probably brushed motor, too. Off-road with brushless on 12v? It'll fail, pretty much guaranteed. But I found a steel spur gear so now I'm happy 😊

[@YoShImUrA53]

Ah, YES! Was so excited to hear your take on this one, as I feel a bit of an instigator to make you get it! Haha! I'm happy to see it didn't disappoint you, and that, although not perfect (the mesh is a known issue and still didn't sound very healthy at the beginning of the vid), overall I think it went quite well! Let's see how it does against the other 2WD!

[@RCTNT]

The mesh is concerning. I have it at a consistent 0.5 to 0.8mm gap (the spur isn't perfect) but this is about as close as I can get it while still having a gap. Still doesn't sound right though! Steel spur on the way anyway, so it's inevitable failure won't be an issue.

[@YoShImUrA53]

@@RCTNT I wonder if by any rare chance Kyosho made a mistake with the pitch of either the pinion or spur, and everyone is going crazy chasing their mesh unsuccessfully because of this?

[@RCTNT]

@YoShImUrA53 could be, though I didn't notice anything obvious. But yes, that would definitely account for that noise. I suspect there must be regular heat failures on that spur, as that noise won't be the only by-product of incorrect mesh. I mean, even when it was perfect (to my experienced eye), it just shouldn't be this loud! I do think you've got a good theory there, Jorge.

[@user-yi3qu9jg8l]

I have zero interest in these types of trucks but love the look of this truck and always enjoy your reviews!

[@RCTNT]

Thank you kindly, I appreciate that

[@peteroosterhoff8850]

What a collection! The HPI dt1(?) truck, arguably one off most beautiful desert trucks way ahead off its time if we talk about that... And they also tried it with the supersized savage (5sc flux?). But probably the time wasn't right for these... Now its getter bigger (and smaller) again...

[@RCTNT]

Funny how things go, isn't it.

[@jayb3518]

I guess that's why you have two spares hanging off the back of that thing... coincidence??? I think not, LOL great content.

[@RCTNT]

Haha yes! I realised this during editing that I'd missed the opportunity to comment on that. You're absolutely right

[@idworkhard]

I was on the fence with this truck but you are convincing me to reconsider it...There is a video out there that recommends putting a tamiya disk or plate at the motor mount to protect from debris getting inside. Maybe you could talk about that in the future?

[@RCTNT]

Yep, and also the steel spur gear I found for it :)

[@noahblum2583]

What a great looking truck. But, I cannot believe the motor and transmission are sprung weight! Definitely not a race truck but the scaleness makes we want one. Maybe a good scale rig to pull a trailer w/ crawler ? 🙂

[@insiainutorrt259]

You wouldnt believe the kind of offroad they can do at speed i still barely do...

[@RCTNT]

I think it's actually enhanced by being MOA, having driven it now. It's considerably more controllable than the shaft driven BR2.0 and UDR, funnily enough. Definitely not a rig tho. This is a nimble and light speed machine. Crawlers are good for towing tho!

[@Epsonblade]

Absolutely would love to see a video that features ALL of the live rear axle independent front suspension vehicles in one long comparison video. Ending with which vehicle gets you the most bang for the buck. I am so tempted to pickup a Kyosho Outlaw Rampage kit, but the one thing that is a non-starter for me is the fact that the motor is on the axle. If it wasn't, I would own it already.

[@RCTNT]

I may do that. Honestly, it drives better than the others, by a considerable margin. And I've found a steel spur gear for it on AliExpress. It's so much cheaper than the BR2.0 and UDR that it's a very compelling buy. The MOA config seems to really help it with handling, too. I'm a fan of this thing.

[@Epsonblade]

@@RCTNT have you changed shock oil weight yet or is it bone stock still? I wonder if you can get it to the point where when it jumps the nose will come up instead. These rear axle trucks, besides the crawlers, the ones that go faster, they're supposed to land on a longer travel rear before the front comes down. A bit of tuning, maybe some weight bias could get it there? I really like it, that one MOA thing aside.

[@RCTNT]

@Epsonblade that is an important consideration, yes. I always start stock and then look to improve. We have a few things to address for this one's upgrade video. That'll be part of it, yes.

[@glennzlotowski8020]

I've seen videos where the rear axle is swapped out and a transmission added to the chassis and a driveshaft setup

[@RCTNT]

Makes sense, but I think that would remove some of the soul of what makes this car unique. Though it'd likely be a performance upgrade!

[@ioskaioska5166]

Great Video! This truck is very nice...there are some sales out there and the price is inviting...could you share which steel gear you purchased so to see if the whole deal make sense?

[@RCTNT]

Sure! s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mtBWvlG Mine has shipped already and they appear to have plenty of stock.

[@glennzlotowski8020]

​@@RCTNT what's best pinion to use with steel spur , aluminum or steel pinion ?

[@RCTNT]

Match steel with steel, in my experience. Alu on steel gets worn down pretty rapidly.

[@blakamin]

Great review as always, and if it wasn't 48 pitch, I'd jump on it! That's such a stupid size for a 1/10 scale... What were they thinking? Can't wait to see the pro 2, as a pro 4 owner. I'm so wanting to pull the trigger on that too.. 😁 or a Corally Kagama.. So many choices

[@RCTNT]

I did find a steel spur gear on AliExpress, and it isn't prohibitively expensive, so that makes this car a much more sure thing. Kagama is just epic tho, yes. Pro2 coming soon 😊

[@Andy_Yates]

They race 2wd short course at my local track. Part of me wishes this configuration was more common because of its scale characteristics. Unfortunately, there are aspects of this design that would make running a chassis protector difficult. We run those vinyl protectors so the underside doesn't damage the (very expensive) race carpet. Otherwise this Kyosho looks so cool!

[@RCTNT]

It wouldn't be too hard to design a pla+ replacement for the alu (?) bash guards. There are plenty of bolt holes, maybe even abs molded shell could be achieved with a cheap vacuum former. You'd want to be keen and have a few cars for all that effort though, I guess!

[@Andy_Yates]

@@RCTNT Yeah I'm sure this could be made to work. Something simple like the vinyl protector would work over the skids. Then sheet over the bumpy plastic underside. Still left with very little adjustments that you'd find on more race oriented kits. It would be for fun exhibition :) it's been so tempting haha

[@RCTNT]

@Andy_Yates certainly drives beautifully for such a design.

[@Andy_Yates]

@@RCTNT Yeah looks great on your track!

[@RCTNT]

It was a glorious 6 minutes

[@RCplamodel]

Thank you for introducing me to a great car! It's a great video.~~~^_^😅😅😅

[@RCTNT]

Thank you for watching it!

[@madsrcbuggy]

Ah, yes, I always watch a video with the old KORP to hear their opinions, of course great to hear yours! I have one and I'm sad to say I hate it, it's my worst RC car, he he... I basically only have buggies, and for some reason I got hyped about this a few years ago and got me one, I just think I never understood the point of it... I know I need to give it a chance, so someday I will bring it out and try again, he he. Added bonus comment: There is a Japaese guy on the Facebook group who almost daily posts slow motion clips with his KORP and they are such a joy to watch, worth checking out!

[@RCTNT]

Thanks. It's your worst car because you don't understand the point of it? Do you mean, specifically, the live rear axle and MOA setup, and why they bothered doing that as opposed to independent suspension arms all round, like a short course or stadium truck? I guess you kind of have to be a bit into trailing arm suspension and live rear axles, and to enjoy that mechanic of the thing. Certainly the car is worse for it, but for what it is, I reckon it drives pretty nicely. Actually, those slo-mo clips you mention are probably the point of these things. Watching it move and work over bumps. That's cool :)

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

If you provide power to those spare wheels, you can wheelie around after the car lands on the roof 🤣

[@RCTNT]

Lol racers hate this one weird tip

[@insiainutorrt259]

ive yet to have any spur issues whatsoever nor any tire issues despite some quite hard driving

[@RCTNT]

That's good to know. I've got a steel spur gear coming but I'll use the stock gear until it dies. Who knows, maybe it'll hang in there!

[@insiainutorrt259]

@@RCTNT i just try it as is and hope for the best and been lucky so far but im weird i even like to noise it makes

[@RCTNT]

You are definitely weird. But I like it too, shh. I do suspect there's an issue with imperfect mesh here, though. Jorge suggested this in another comment here. Hopefully the steel replacement does the job.

[@jameswisecarver]

Put one of those spares on and keep driving!! Lol

[@RCTNT]

Haha yes!! I only realised I should have done this during the video editing for this one. So obvious, lol oh well

[@1980VINZ]

5:02 That TERRIBLE gears noise is unfortunately completely normal with this model…………..and that is its main issue. It absolutely ruins the whole experience. What a shame………..😩

[@RCTNT]

Lol it's pretty atrocious isn't it! Steel gear will be louder again but who knows, maybe it'll be a bit more tolerable in pitch or something. We'll see.