Buyer's Guide to Portable Woodstoves - G Stove vs Kni-Co vs GWM

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First Time Buyer's Guide to Portable Woodstoves - G Stove XL vs Kni-Co Alaskan vs Great West Metal
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[@NobleFountainFilms]

Thank you for not promoting Amazon. It isn't the easiest thing to find reviewers of products who aren't selling Amazon products, instead of giving an honest review. Thank you for giving an authentic review🙂🙏🏽👏🏽

[@gt_outdoorexcursions]

Totally agree on amazon! Remember the old days when the reviews on amazon actually meant something? Now you'll get the short end of the stick and junk in the mail. Watched you guys long enough to know that I can trust your judgement on stuff like this, appreciate the share!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Gerald! Totally agree... I'm losing faith in reviews there

[@ianmacdonald9283]

Just pre-ordered my new stove from Boreal Outdoor Innovations. They now have new stove models similar in size to Kni-Co's Tundra and Denali but all made out of stainless steel. 1/8 inch thick stainless steel wall thickness and 18 gauge stainless steel wall thickness. I ordered the model with 1/8 inch stainless wall thickness. You should do a stove review/comparison on bigger stoves for guys who have larger tents like the Snowtrekker Mega Crew or Outfitter or the Bell Tents. Keep up the great work buddy!

[@TomasKronstahl-ow6pg]

Boreal Outdoor Innovations makes really great stoves. Love their new North Camp series of stainless steel stoves. I heard that they are starting to make Titanium accessories as well.

[@queticomoe4495]

Hello again, Jon! I have a Kni-Co Trekker stove and love it. I've only used it a couple of times but think it's pretty darn durable, and I like the design. The price was right too, as I found mine used on Craigslist. In fact, the guy I bought it from gave me a tip about keeping it rust free. He told me to spray the stove down with WD-40 in the off season, to coat the metal and keep it from rusting. Then when you go to use it again, preform an initial first burn like it's new. I tried it, and man I've been happily surprised! My stove looks used but it is NOT rusted.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks a lot Moe! That is excellent to hear...I really want to do my best to avoid the rust so I will take that advice. I also have some high temp matte black spray paint that I might use on the exterior, but interior I'll go with the WD!

[@davidgillam1988]

I do the same. Once back, i spray my knico with wd-40. Ideally, you probably should spray the inside as well. Buy a can of wd-40 and use a spray bottle. I also gad a piece of metal siding off a wall. I bent the ends so it sits inside my stove on the stove bottom, keeping an inch gap between the bottom and the siding. As a false bottom.

[@arbdapeish]

I’m done camping, but I still found this interesting. Good job!

[@ripplesandleaves]

Love the analysis table you shared at the end. I often look at things the same way. Thanks again for this! 👍

[@LostLakes]

Camping nerds for life! Thanks Andrea!

[@williamcrane7583]

I bought a gstove this year, and I love it. I can heat water, cook food, and heat my tent all at the same time. I live in Arkansas, so I don't need a big stove. The gstove isn't perfect, but it's close enough.

[@bernkondret9981]

Your reviews are the best. Nothing like having real experience to back it up!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks a lot Bern! Stay off the roads down there...hope y'all get warm soon

[@XanderBudnick]

My brothers got the Kni-CO and it works great - the only issue we've had is the stackable chimney once it gets a bit bentup its harder to fit inside the stove for transport but all in all a great stove!

[@LostLakes]

Exactly, especially if it's real chilly out!

[@CanadianSledDog]

I'm studying to be a hermit so this will be perfect! I've been feeling the same way about Amazon, they're like Wal-Mart. They serve a purpose but we have to support an actual Canadian business whenever we can or we'll all lose. Like we lost MEC. The one thing I'll say in defense of Chinese knock off brands, though, is they're the only brands making truly affordable lightweight tents for any budget. I can't argue with a good tent for $100, even if it is a Big Agnes imitation.

[@LostLakes]

Hahaha what a great thing to study. I hear ya, sometimes the value is hard to deny...other times the price is too good to be true, and you find that out when the gear really gets tested. You win and lose sometimes. But yeah we gotta keep our great small and local CDN businesses strong

[@rollenabout9404]

I remember back in the 70s and 80s going renting ice huts on Lake Simcoe and some of these stoves that these guys would come up with were unbelievable and efficient just from a barrel old oil barrel for wood and then they had the drip oil it was like you woke up in hell that’s all hot they would get good video thumbs up

[@LostLakes]

Hahah sure sounds like a big stove for an ice hut...sauna material. Thanks RA!

[@northernontariobushcraftsu4192]

Good video i have a few stoves i like my titanium for back packing but for real cold i take the steel stove titanium does not hold the heat like steel does

[@richardpengelly9477]

Great review. I bought a stove from Tentipi when I bought my winter tipi from them. It is the 15' x 7.5' tentipi and the stove is steel, weighs around 25 lbs, not much if I get someone else to carry it, but I put it in a Knapsack and tie it onto my Lure of the North Toboggan. The legs fold around the body of the stove. The pipes nest in the stove and I agree with the problem of cold and gunk on the inside. The size of the stove is great and since the pipe goes straight up the center of the tent it also heat the tent. The Swedish have designed it very well. They have even thought about melting into the snow by putting round indents in the base of the legs so that you can "float" the stove using branches to keep it level. Brilliant. I have used this stove and the tent for 4 years and been in -40 weather and kept warm. A burn can last 2 -4 hours depending on wood type. I also put in logs. Both Tipi and stove work in unison and fit on a 10' toboggan easily. Love your channel. Keep up the great work. Stay safe and have fun.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks a lot Richard! That sounds like an excellent setup. Gotta love Nordic winter products for their quality and design

[@mark82914]

You didn't mention the other stove on the market by Boreal Outdoor Innovations. All stainless steel stoves. All made in Canada

[@ianmacdonald9283]

I have a Boreal Outdoor Innovations Stove. Best stove on the market.

[@carriebernard6329]

Agree!@@ianmacdonald9283

Excellent review ! I've got my self an Esker Huron stove (made by kni-co), which is essentially the same as the alaskan jr except for the legs where you can insert piece of woods to add to help stabilize when the snow begin to melt under the stove. Side table is also a nice addition as it gives some space to work when you are cooking ! Well I think you won't regret your purchase !

[@steddyk]

I just purchased the Esker Artic fox 10'x10' with the Esker Ontario stove by Kni-co, burned it in and then stayed 2 nights in -20 in pure comfort. Your Alaskan will be perfect for the 11'x11'. The Kni-co damper system worked so well to get a slow burn overnight. I also can't speak on the longevity of them but they are no joke to set up and use!

[@LostLakes]

Great to hear Johnny!

[@georgestanley4780]

On a traditional Woodstove pipe. The crimped (female end) does historically face down into the stove, so the creosote can be re-burned. Not sure about these lil camping/tent stoves though. Otherwise, the creosote can ignite outside of the chimney pipe. Very dangerous situation possibly. Thank You for the very personal review. Informative to say the least.

[@bigsky2081]

I have been using woodstove's in canvas and nylon tents for 45 years. Size of your tent is relative to your stove. I have used and reviewed titanium stove's and my homemade stoves. I Totally agree with you on your judgement of Amazon and prefer to make my own. If a person has a small tent the Nuway stove is a great stove, inexpensive and easy to clean the ash out. Thanks for your review!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Big Sky! Definitely relative to size. The Gstove could get a small shelter rocking I'm sure, especially with hardwood and milder temps

[@betsygodwin8938]

Big Sky Can you give the specific name of the model of the stove that you prefer? Or link? I know this is an old KZbin but I hope you get this comment.

[@bigsky2081]

@@betsygodwin8938 If weight and bulk are a critical factor the WWW titanium stove from Luxe Hiking Gear is a great choice for the money. If weight and bulk are not issues the Nuway wood stove with 3" pipe is a great choice. I show a number of stoves on my channel if you care to check them out.

[@joebuck4496]

@@bigsky2081 yeah that definitely makes sense that you wanna match relative size of the tent and stove together. But then I’ve also heard the advice to purposely oversized so that you can minimize damper air intake, load up the firebox more, and basically spend less time having to reload the stove. I suppose that undersizing is really the worst mistake!

[@bigsky2081]

@@joebuck4496 oversizing a wood stove is equally wrong. I oversized a stove at my off grid homestead, not listening to the advice from the stove man and have regretted it to this day. A stove burns wood more efficiently in a small space . The larger a stove is the more wood you need and when that pile of wood is gone it doesn't burn well. Research how a fire works, it's quite interesting.

[@dronereviewman9580]

funny how i randomly looked up tent wood stoves on a day where it's 90 outside and it takes me 2 my favorite KZbin channel!!!! Been awhile brother hope your good!!

[@LostLakes]

Hahah thanks man!

[@tanyanagorski8128]

I have the alaskan as well and love it cant wait to see yours in action on your trips! I have learned alot through you both and really enjoy your videos!!

[@LostLakes]

Thank you so much Tanya!

[@prairiefalcon9494]

I also tried the G-Stove this season. It is a very good stove but just not for me. One thing very good about the G-Stove is that the side bars can be folded on top and be used to dry damp wood very fast. Anyways, It kept us warm in a 10x10 Esker in -20 C in Saskatchewan but I am looking for something a little larger to get through the long cold Northern Sask nights without adding wood every 45 mins.

[@LostLakes]

Sounds extremely familiar lol. Agree with all of this. The gstove was beautiful, the wing shelves were excellent, and it's a great stove for the right user...just ain't you or me

[@littlepony6762]

Very different stoves good to know Thank you for showing us good and bad 👍👍

[@davidmonnin2792]

Thanks for your spot on comments regarding rip off artists on Amazon. Cannot imagine how frustrating that must be to the original designers of these quality products. I am with you. Will not buy the cheap knock offs from Amazon or anywhere else.

[@LostLakes]

Me neither...Amok and Level 6 are two brands that come to mind getting ripped off recently. Though in fairness it's FB and Instagram ads too, not just Amazon.

[@NoBigDealNeil]

Great review. I'm considering the G-Stove for all the positive points you've made. I don't think I'll be in -30 weather.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Neil, the Gstove is beautiful and well made. If you have access to seasoned hardwood, you can get a lot out of it

[@idratherbeoutside9880]

By far one of the best Stove reviews/comparison I've seen in quite awhile. Thanks for the upload.. :)

[@LostLakes]

Much appreciated IRBO!!

[@craigpratt9755]

We need a lot more guys like you. Cheers

[@LostLakes]

Appreciate that Craig!

[@hankremer6606]

@Craig Pratt. Check out The Outdoor Gear Review. He reviews all gear and gives honest input. Just like Mr Kelly!

[@OpenAirOutdoors]

I agree with you about the knock offs on Amazon. Have you looked into local welding shops or local craftsman to build you a stove? Years ago I made good side cash building stoves and other goods like trailers for people. Well I hope you get satisfaction on your latest purchase. Be safe out there✌️

[@LostLakes]

Naw, services are pretty limited here in our small town and we're 3.5 hours driving from Thunder Bay so I think it would be a challenge. Sounds like Erin's type of fun though!

[@delgue6338]

I deleted my Amazon account and the application recently because they were never any faster than anybody else. If it was fulfilled from Amazon the packaging was minimal prone to damage. Will only use if I have no other choice

[@VE3FAL1Fred]

Have not had the G-Stove, but have a Kni-Co and have owned the GWM stove with the oven. My GWM stove got 3 real good winters and stayed at the tent year round, even survived a tent collapse under heavy snow. After each season I clean the stove and will coat with either a cooking oil or transmission oil, rub the oils in with a rag, and come the new season burn it out again before putting in the tent. Hard to find a good airtight stove that gives a great burn time for us here in Northwestern Ontario. At -25c shifts will still need to be taken to keep a tent comfortable unless you have a sleeping bag that keeps you toasty warm....cheers Fred

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Fred, yeah the shifts are reality...I've come to accept that now. If we want a decent amount of heat, it seems that 90 mins is about the max we can go between stoking, at least with the softwood we use. With some softwood rounds and the stove and pipe dampered right down, it'll keep coals going for 3 hours, but doesn't put out much heat

[@VE3FAL1Fred]

@@LostLakes I agree 100%. I seen a baffle is available for the kni-co stoves but not sure how well that will work. I wud most likely take damper on pipe out and just use the baffle. This weekend I was getting a good 90-120 minutes burn time, but my Arctic Bell tent still cools pretty quick and temps were mild. A good airtight is only way to go if you can set up camp with a quad due to weight. But still, staying up, staying warm and dry is still worth the 30-60 minutes sleep between fill ups....Fred

[@sooleyoutdoors2728]

nice. can not wait till you try the new stove. good job. great learning experience

[@LostLakes]

Thanks SO!

[@ALORDW]

Shawn James got rid of his G-stove, it didn't meet his needs and he had one with the water heater, oven etc. Snow Trekker tents exclusively sells Kni-Co stoves with their tents so I would expect that you should be happier with this stove. Tell Erin nice work on getting the bottom to fit in the new stove.

[@LostLakes]

Interesting, I didn't realize he had one. I'm sure this will do better for us :) Will do!

[@gravityalwayswins1434]

yeehaw i was second viewer! one minute after it came online. my personal best. ha. u and mathmagic girl are gonna LOVE that Alaskan

[@LostLakes]

Hahah thanks Bob!

[@paule4696]

I have the Kni-Co Alaskan. I used it in my 12 x 12 Cabela's Alaknak Tent in November in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. It was almost too warm if that's possible. I could see it keeping the tent toasty even in sub-zero temps. We saw temps in the teens F and were really comfortable. Great Stove

[@LostLakes]

Oh I believe it! At -25C outside we've had it about 40C inside our 11x11 :)

[@haydenmeadors38]

I think the G stove would suit my area pretty well, I’ve been thinking about pulling the trigger on buying one for awhile lol.

[@LostLakes]

Definitely up to those Oklahoma winters lol. And if you can use hardwood you'll be laughin'

[@Kwallen870]

You briefly mentioned it, but it’s worth emphasizing the type of wood available to us in Northern Ontario. Little to no hardwood. You’d wear out the door hinge on that little stove feeding it with spruce all night. Great review! 👍

[@LostLakes]

Glad you drove home that point Keith! We sometimes hear the advice to burn hardwoods but it just ain't an option here as you know. For anyone wondering, in the boreal forest the only hardwoods you're likely to find are birch or poplar. Both are abundant but you won't find birch seasoned in the bush, it'll be rotten due to its nature. The aspen has barely more BTUs than the softwoods and is harder to find in any condition worth burning. Both are good fuels if cut and dried, just not in the bush. Jack pine is the best but around here but we rarely find it...almost all spruce and fir

[@toddmaccullouch9973]

I have the gstove small for a 5 person artic tent. Works great and is toasty inside the tent. Great info. Cheers

[@joebuck4496]

Arctic Oven tent? Man Arctic Oven tents are so spectacular for bitter cold that you could probably be fine with just body heat and a candle lol

[@michaelbrohl1625]

I have the Gstove for my 4 person Hot tent and it does the job very well, although I have not taken it to below zero Fahrenheit temps yet.

[@delgue6338]

I own a Gstove. Have not had a chance to use it yet. I should be ok with the size. I am using Polish Lavvu. Small hot tent camping. I agree for larger tent it would not be best choice. Also will be using hardwood for fuel.

[@LostLakes]

Yeah Del, I think you'll enjoy it with that setup. I feel like hardwood is a huge factor with the gstove. The small softwood pieces just burn so quickly

[@brianadventures9622]

The kni-co looks nice! Hope it works well and you stay warm! If you get a minute, what is your bottom layering system for this type of weather? I can't remember if I've seen a gear break down video...

[@LostLakes]

Hey Brian, I wear merino wool top (long sleeve) and long johns. Usually a fleece hoodie over that, then a thick wool sweater lined with fleece, then a shell

[@BuckOllie]

Good honest info here, thanks. Also good on you for having the balls to call out Amazon’s dubious and unethical business models. There is a lot to be said for shopping local.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks BuckOllie! Yeah exactly, I certainly buy some things on Amazon, but if I can (without undue expense to myself) I'd rather go small and local

[@GAR85120514]

Cool. Some good considerations. Must be looking forward to trying the new one.

[@LostLakes]

Can't wait to get 'er rip-roaring 😁

[@campbellreed8300]

I gave the GWM stove a shot since I was able to go down to the factory, but it's actually a really solid stove with modification. I have two machine screws holding the door on, works perfect. Replaced the crap legs with homemade ones and added an extension on the door handle for safer opening. Didn't have the stovepipe issues you did, but then mine had different legs aswell, so they likely changed the design. For sure not the highest quality but with those modifications it works great and draws excellently, which is a problem I have had with kni-cos.

[@LostLakes]

Good call Campbell, certainly nothing wrong with the stove box itself as a base. I told them about my issue with the pipes a couple of years ago so I'm glad they changed them

[@kellybalkom7149]

Great review! I hope you found one that works for you and Canadian Outdoer Equipment Store is a fantastic place to purchase your gear. I'm totally happy with everything I have ordered at that place.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Kelly! Totally agree, ordered a few things from them in recent months and it's been great

[@adolfojmz2200]

Maybe a little late but unfortunately bass pro has these stoves $100 cheaper than the Canadian outdoor store

[@TheEmporiumOutdoors]

That's a great video showing a clear comparison and I'm sure that's going to help someone from picking up the wrong stove 👍 With the Kni-co I would recommend the false bottom at some point. I made one and use 2 pieces of angle iron to support the plate. It will make sure your stove lasts a long time plus a little more air flow 😉

[@LostLakes]

The TEO! Great call...Erin cut the false bottom from our first stove so it'll now fit inside the new one :)

[@jeffrichards5106]

I guess I made a good decision. My first stove that I just got last Fall is the Kni-co Trekker to go into my Pomoly Hex tipi. I can't wait to try them both out. I also got the false bottom and side table for it. The quality is very good and looks very rugged. I didn't want to mortgage my home for a titanium stove! Thanks for the video👍

[@karl-johanbratt9949]

Really great review, I got the GStove myself and a Winnerwell foldable titanium stove for my Seek Outside Redcliff and it is a perfect size in terms of the heat it generates in -10 to -20 C, however I have the same issues with it as you mention: the small opening is a hassle, small overall size means you need to feed it a lot and wood processing becomes a pain. Size matters as they say and if weight isn't an issue I would say an Iron stove is the absolute best, the heat retention is on another level. Winnerwell makes amazing stainless steel stoves with great craftsmanship just like Gstove, maybe they have bigger sizes too.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Karl-Johan! Yeah exactly, and I think that problem is exacerbated in our scenario where all we have from the bush are the conifers, primarily spruce, and small pieces of it just don't last. Birch will only work if harvested and dried in advance. If we had some good hardwood, at least the small pieces would last a reasonable amount of time

[@davidtowlun2118]

I've got a medium and small sized stove from Riley Stoves. I'd like to see more opinions about them from this community. They're not pretty (the stoves!) , but they're practically bombproof. Being made out of galvanized steel they don't rust, but that also turns people away. In my research, after a thorough first burn, there's no issue with the steel. I also have a third shoulder season folding titanium stove that is great, but expensive enough that I still wonder if it wasn't just a impulsive purchase. Having said all that, there's nothing like spending a cold, wet day in the backcountry comfortably huddled inside a canvas tent with a piping hot stove, a good book and a dram or two of whatever you've got. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us!

[@LostLakes]

Just checked them out, don't think I'd heard of them before. Hahah well said, it is such a comfort! Thanks David!

[@davecurda2350]

The G stove just needs to be a little bit bigger and it would be perfect. Great video thanks for the info

[@LostLakes]

Agreed! Thanks Dave!

[@johnlone207]

I have my Kni-Co for 3-4 years now, and I'm happy with it. Durable, tough, plenty of real estate to cook, & I included a water tank with it. When not in use, just like any tools, I keep clean & coated with light film of oil for storage. Instead of buying falls bottom, I put a layer of dirt or sand before I start burning. It's a working man's stove, and its been serving me well. I agree with buying from reputable sellers or buy direct from the manufacturer. I bought mine direct from Kni-Co.

[@LostLakes]

Good call John. What type of oil do you prefer for storage?

[@johnlone207]

@@LostLakes My buddy use CLP, I use Ballistol, it cooks off better when you burn it out before use. I also saved the original box and packing, and saved the desiccant packs I get in some stuffs I ordered and throw them in there. It helps. In the water tank, I threw some eggs in there so you have cooked eggs waiting for you (unless you don't want hard-boiled eggs fart in the tent 🙂) and hot water.

[@LostLakes]

@@johnlone207 hahah thanks for the reply!

[@johnlone207]

@@LostLakes No worries!

[@anthonyjohnston2178]

love that I can easily feed wood into my Knico stove without getting out of my hammock

[@LostLakes]

Hot tent hammocker--nice!!

[@shaneflickinger]

Good discussion Jon. Hope the new stove works out for you. Cheers!

[@anysep3361]

Great review John! We recently purchased our Kni-co Alskan jr. From LOTN as well. Love it so far! We have a 3p snowtrekker that's 9x11.5 and it heats it up really good in -20c . (For reference, I slept in a -7down bag with wool blanket very comfortably...but we were lucky to have oak to burn) So far so good😉 enjoy it, and hopefully you and Erin will be toasty warm 😊

[@Cmfacebk]

Anyse P What kind of burn time do you see with decent hardwood?

[@anysep3361]

@@Cmfacebk about 4 hours with a very full load of oak 😉.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Anyse! Ah I wish we had some good hardwoods here in the bush...what a game changer

[@Cmfacebk]

Does anyone know of value stove that will put out 6 hour burn times? This size fire box is very similar to our house stove and we get 10 to twelve hours from one load of oak.

[@inthewoodswithbigfoot3941]

Great information Jon. Thanks!

[@christianszell1927]

Great video, thank you for this. I'm curious what you think about the titanium wood stoves by Pomoly or Seek Outside? I'm also from Ontario and suffer the curse of exchange rate and shipping.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Christian! Never used them or even seen them in person, but in shopping for stoves and what I've seen on YT, I wasn't super impressed with the look of the quality...but that's a very superficial opinion on my part. As for the collapsible models, I wouldn't want a stove that I have to assemble and worry about the pieces warping from heat, but I know for some users that's a must

[@TOOZECRUISE]

Thank you for this guys.

[@brianspencer4220]

Your honesty is really appreciated. Stay Safe & thanks Brian 80

[@bushcraft_crush2455]

Awesome review thanks for the comparisons!

[@Clayton_White]

Just a guess, but I would think its pronounced (Nyyy-Co) since there is a Knight on the front?

[@LostLakes]

Hahah you might be right....I've heard both on YT and can never remember which one is right

[@trishaharrison6183]

Can’t wait for next camping video with the new stove rockin some popcorn. Lol😘 Some really great info, thanks for sharing.

[@MultiCrackerjacker]

Maybe the G stove is effective in a smaller hot tent🤷‍♀️. Great video filled with solid info.

[@LostLakes]

No doubt! In a smaller tipi tent and with milder cold, it could be a great stove. Thanks MCJ!

[@-fuk57]

Woodstove tech! Thank you for sharing your insights & experience.

[@Christopher-jg1ed]

Nice reviews of the stoves. I also have a gstove (regular, not xl) and it heats my bereg up2 tent great even at -30 but it is a pain to start and split wood into small burning pieces.

[@LostLakes]

Yeah I think that's the biggest complaint we have, especially if using softwood. The small pieces burn up so quickly. Interesting that it works so well in that cold...is the Bereg tent insulated? Doesn't say online

[@Christopher-jg1ed]

@@LostLakes it has 2 layers which keeps the heat in well. You can also get an insulated bottom as an accessory but I usually just use the regular floor or unzip it and use bare ground.

[@LostLakes]

@@Christopher-jg1ed ah interesting, I wonder how big of an impact that double layer has

[@Christopher-jg1ed]

@@LostLakes I think a pretty big one since it's basically a layer of warm air stuck between them when the stove is on. My only gripe with the tent is the weight.

[@LostLakes]

@@Christopher-jg1ed hahah always compromises eh

[@ADKAddicts]

I’m surprised you’re having heat problems with the gstove XL. I have the regular gstove and heat a bigger tent than you have with no problems. Also don’t buy the leg extensions just get tubing the same size and the legs from the hardware store and cut it to the length you want. Crimp the ends in a vise slightly and fit them into the stove so they fit tightly. Then just drill holes for the pins. Works perfect.

[@LostLakes]

Interesting John...I'm guessing it comes down to three possible differences: (1) your local typical winter temps, (2) availability of hardwood fuel, and (3) the tent being insulated as opposed to highly breathable canvas. But I could be wrong on any or all of those....interested to hear about it

[@ADKAddicts]

@@LostLakes I camp in the northern Adirondacks it gets pretty cold and the tent is a Robens Klondike. Over 8 foot ceiling at the center. Breathable canvas. Our stove sits a few feet off the ground with the legs we made. You know what it could be that my tent has a zip in ground sheet. It is a huge tent though with a lot of area to heat. I’m curious to see how much more heat your new stove puts out.

[@LostLakes]

@@ADKAddicts interesting, thanks for this info John. Particularly about the floor. We bury the edges in snow except around the door and there is quite a bit of draft there. Maybe that's having more of an impact than I thought

[@twztwz2219]

Very good information,thank you very much. I am a new commer. What are the differences between G-stove and M-stoves.

[@nighthawk3897]

Another great one Jon.

[@jeffbarnes509]

Bought the kni co and only got a few fires before it started to warp on the top. Can't complain though. Puts off good heat for an Alaskan winter. Haven't tried the g stove yet for winter. Did the burn in. Think it might work for a small tent.

[@davegriffith23]

Great video. Can’t wait to see the new stove in action!

[@Birdknowsbest]

Buy a 4 dog stove. Get the baffle too. No false bottom needed either. Don, who makes them, has never had a bottom break. They are spendy but worth every penny. I have one and you will never hear a bad word about them from anyone who owns one. Get a Snowtrekker tent too. With proper care both the stove and tent should last a lifetime. Ive had my 4 dog stove and ST tent for 3 years and zero complaints about both.

[@LostLakes]

Yeah I agree, cost aside, that's exactly what I would do on both accounts. But the CAD/USD exchange rate has other plans...

[@Birdknowsbest]

@@LostLakes Take some your google ad revenue and splurge. Get a ST and 4 dog and you can could sell sell 2 or all of your current stoves. That is how I justified mine. I was lucky to find a 4 dog Titanium 2 UL used for $500 which I was happy to pay. I sold my old tent and stove and got my ST. I know you like your Atuk ( i believe is what you have) but it takes so long to set those up with all the guy out points who have to use. The ST can be set up in under 10 min with 2 peopleand no center pole needed. I totally get the exchange rate but anyone in the states reading this, get a Snowtrekker. I promise you will you will love it.

[@LostLakes]

@@Birdknowsbest preaching to the choir man... If the exchange rate ever gets closer to parity I might sell and upgrade but we'll be content until then 🙂

[@Birdknowsbest]

@@LostLakes well if you are ever in MN you are welcome to join me to test out both.

[@shugemery]

I got a little woodstove envy. Someday....someday.

[@LostLakes]

It's good livin' my friend!

[@VE3FAL1Fred]

@Shugemery be tough fitting it in that hammock....Fred

[@macdoucetig8537]

Quick question for you, what is the model for the Atuk tent you are using with the Alaskan stove? Asking due to considering buying a full winter camping kit but unsure about the tent pipe hole dimension wise. Great video for those getting started!

[@LostLakes]

Thank you :) It's the Atuk Alaskan 11*11' in 7oz canvas. I now mostly use the snow Trekker crew 8*10

[@FreakofNature1]

Goldilocks reference lolol Nice review Jon, I am sure this will help someone! Cheers!

[@Pacific-Myth]

If this is the lake I think it is, must have been fun carrying all that gear up the massive hill.

[@LostLakes]

Hahah yep!! We call it Mt Doom

[@calgaryjsc]

Thanks for your review/comparison video! Does knico stove comes with baffle in burning chamber?

[@LostLakes]

Naw doesn't come with one and I haven't seen any knicos with one

[@timothybehnke1067]

Great review Jon. I will be looking forward to another review of this stove down the road. I would probably purchase the false bottom if you haven't already. 4 Dog Stoves have always caught my interest. They are gasketed to maintain a long burn time. Not sure if they sell any steel ones anymore but make one of the best titanium expedition stoves on the market in two sizes. Pricy and have to ship to Canada from the US tho. RBM (Russian Bear Market) seem to be making an amazing product as well. Stainless steel and huge glass windows on both sides would make a nice flicker at night on the tent walls and ceiling. Ha! Your vid seems to have brought out the stove geek in me!

[@differentfins]

Such a thorough and honest review! The Great West seems like it has potential to become the goldilocks stove. Someone with handyman and welding experience could probably fix the few issues fairly easily. Beef up the hinge and fabricate a lock mechanism to secure the feet. Potential I hope the company utilizes after watching this review, if they see it. Cheers!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Joe! That's true, the door wouldn't be too bad to fix. The Kni-Co legs are so much better though...nice and tall too. What shocked me the most was that the pipes they supplied nested the wrong way and made the creosote drip down onto the stove. I contacted them about it and they took the feedback and said they'd investigate, but that was it. After that, I wanted nothing to do with GWM

[@ajda1947]

Hi guys! Interesting stoves video. I bought the Pomoly Stove and, since it was my first stove I liked it, but it came with a 9+ foot titanium pipe that was a nightmare to roll up (it took 3 people). During the first windy night the pipe bent in half at the point where it entered the tent and couldn’t be reused. So I bought a 6 3/4 foot stove pipe which I assembled myself (both pipes came with metal rings to hold it together, but smoke escaped between the rings, but I finally got it to work fairly well. Unfortunately my Pomoly tent collapsed from the weight of the (somewhat) wet snow. Fortunately I wasn’t in the tent or a disaster would have occurred! 2)

[@ajda1947]

Sorry I sent the comment by mistake. The aluminum pole of the tent broke in half and tore through the canvas (I am in the process of repairing). The stove itself has short legs that flap about when trying to rearrange the position of the stove. I am now looking into a Winnerwell stove with higher legs similar to yours and it comes with metal stove parts similar to your latest stove. I guess you get what you pay for.

[@LostLakes]

Wow!!! Absolutely brutal. Never used a roll-up stove pipes but it always gave me a bad feeling, and the same for the stoves that fold down flat. Heat warps metal over time so having to make parts fit together always concerned me...I could be overestimating that issue though.

[@KevinOutdoors]

Thanks for the review. Very helpful!

[@jfreedman3799]

Hey guys hope you are keeping well. I assume so based off the inc video content. Hope your 3rd stove is a banger question as I am planning for a June trip... On the crown land website under "rec activities and fav" if camping isn't listed but it has crown land recreation yes. Can I interpret that as yes for camping or do I need to find land with "camping" listed in that section

[@LostLakes]

Thanks J! I'm assuming you're talking about a table like this from CLUPA? www.gisapplication.lrc.gov.on.ca/services/CLUPA/xmlReader.aspx?xsl=web-primary.xsl&type=primary&POLICY_IDENT=G2697 If it's just a general crown land area without a specific management plan, I would think that camping would be fine if crown land recreation = yes. But if it's within a conservation reserve or anything with a specific plan or regulation, then camping might not be allowed, even if it's not explicitly forbidden in the table. I've found the info to be a bit incomplete in times. But yeah if it's just generic crown land, you're probably good

[@jfreedman3799]

@@LostLakes thx Guys. Ok so follow up. I do have 1 more quest. We had dm'd on IG previously about spots and I wanted a follow up to that but prob don't want to make it public as it's a little close to home and not disclosing direct spots. What's the best way to get your thoughts on my dilemma

[@LostLakes]

@@jfreedman3799 no prob. Just shoot me another message on Insta and I'll check my inbox soon. Just usually very behind on other platforms as I come up YT first, but I'll try to keep an eye out

[@rialobran]

Good review...though there goes your chances of Amazon affiliation, lol. Like I said in your last video I know nothing about hot tents or stoves, 2 tea lights and a birthday candle is about all you need in my part of the UK. I'd have thought (wrongly) that the lower the stove the warmer it'll be, heat rises after all and the larger the 'draft area' the cooler it'd be. I can see the size difference being a factor though, and you being tall it being a bit of a pain getting lower. But on the plus side, Erin gets a new axe for processing with the smaller stove. ;) Good job I haven't done a shout out for this awesome channel yet, just noticed we've lost the 'Backcountry Angling' part...anymore changes before I go out this week and big you up in the UK?

[@LostLakes]

Hahah! The name transition is done and, like the stove, hopefully won't change again for a long time 😝 Thanks a ton rhialobran, most kind!!

[@stephenbouchard8075]

Thanks Jon.

[@KurtMcScotsman]

Great analysis! I especially appreciate the emphasis on quality and long term use. It'd be really interesting to see Country of Origin in the scoring matrix if you include that in future reviews.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Kurt!

[@brianmelton5723]

Great review I think. Great job. Thank you for the video and the work.

[@donalddakota8069]

Great info on the stoves Jon. The best stove I have seen on video is the Nomad. Nagualero is the guy's KZbin channel, check it out. It looked like the stove I would buy. Happy camping!

[@BrianthatiscalledBrian]

After that review, your buddy isn't going to want the stove back. 😉👍😋

[@LostLakes]

He's a hoarder, he'll take anything 😆

[@alexs3447]

@@LostLakes And maybe he has a cheap mig welder to fix the door. Could also rig something for the legs.

[@campingcrew2755]

My first one was really bad, so went to Russian bear great quality

[@danmitchell3758]

Depends on quality of wood, but what was burn time with kni co? I hav a Kifaru tipi. They make stove pipe from 1 sheet of metal that you can roll up to store. It really works. Good vid.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Dan, interesting about the roll up pipe. I've heard mixed reviews and would worry about warping, but I'm only speculating. From the bush, our only option is to harvest softwood so our burn time is 1.5 hours while putting out a good amount of heat. If I damper the front and pipe almost all the way and put in a full round or two, 3 hours, but much less heat. If it's really cold out, waking up every 90m is the reality I've accepted

[@jacqueline7118]

Wow, great comparison and it seems that you two have found the one for your situation, woohoo! :) I must admit, I do love the look of the G-Stove. I would only consider it though for heating a small space. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions! :) :)

[@LostLakes]

Thanks J!! 100%....it's a work of art and I'll miss it, but not when the mercury plummets!

[@Bundysvideos]

So get out there, buy and test some titanium stoves! Quick! I’ll be shopping for a stove over the summer and I need some reliable reviews haha Great video, the gstove was on the buy list until I saw this.

[@LostLakes]

Hahah hopefully no more stoves for a long time 😝 Thanks VO, the Gstove is still a great stove for the right user, but that user ain't us

[@brucewayne2091]

1/2 the problem is whoever comes up with the concept/build doesn't 'generally' get out to verify the performance. Congratulations Johnny, you're going to Northern Alberta with this stove. Now I bet you Johnny is going to try his best to make a stove that pumps out the BTUs & isn't a curse to setup & light.

[@LostLakes]

🔥🔥😁

[@DonaldMac-d2j]

Canadian outdoor Equipment ...good mention

[@SScogin]

Did you consider anything from Winnerwell? They look like a larger version of the g-stove.

[@thebirdbros6519]

Jon, thanks for taking the time to make this video very informative. I'll have to keep my eye on the Kni-co for next winter. Funny enough, a couple weeks ago we posted our first winter camping experience in the backcountry and we made a stove out of an old 5 gallon of paint thinner, car muffler and a tarp...it worked! Thanks again you guys for the content and inspiration lol! FISH ON!

[@LostLakes]

Hahah love the ingenuity! Thanks Bird Bros!

[@s.campbell6394]

. Thank you for a review well done.

[@Bennynation3]

Very nice video its makes me want to try snow camping !

[@dustin6772]

Am sitting here watching the adventure you and Joe did... hit pause on the TV to watch this... you were looking for your go pro when I hit pause.... lol. Sorry. Thanks for doing this!! It really helps!

[@LostLakes]

Hahah I was just watching that vid a few days ago looking for any clues of the gopro...tempted to go back this year if I get a chance. Thanks D!

[@dustin6772]

@@LostLakes wanna see that vid if u do...

[@PuskwaskaOutdoors]

Good vid 👍 Hope that Knico serves you well... or at least is a better compromise than the others 😁

[@LostLakes]

Thanks PO! That's what buying gear is all about eh...minimizing compromise lol

[@coreygraham3572]

Big fan of your content. In my experience you will be way better off with the knico. I have the Alaskan and it it has been a great stove for me over past 5 years. Not as pleasing to look at but who cares. With the right wood and air control you can have a fire for 4-5 hours. I just bought the trekker for a smaller tent I have. After looking at all the options I stuck with what I know and a proven stove. You won’t regret your purchase.I would buy the bottom grate for air flow and protection. I would also consider drilling and putting a screw in your pipe connects so a heavy wind doesn’t separate them. Wind pulled mine apart once.

[@LostLakes]

Much appreciated Corey! Great to hear. We were very happy with it the couple of times we used it this winter. Yikes...did you have a bipod or tripod supporting the pipe when that happened? We typically have that, so I'm wondering if it's still a concern

[@coreygraham3572]

@@LostLakes you should be good then. The way my tent is set up the pipe can’t be supported by a bipod.

[@LostLakes]

@@coreygraham3572 ahh gotta, that's great, thanks!

[@TrueCanoe]

Thanks for making this video. I guess I'll get the kni-co. I'm in BC where it only gets to -15 really, so I was considering the G-stove, but I dunno. I'm also gonna travel fairly long distances pulling it on a toboggan, so weight matters to me too. Anyway, awesome video, thanks.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks True Canoe! Even at -15C, I think you'll be glad to have a bigger stove. Could go halfway and get one of the mid-size Kni-Cos which are still a lot bigger than the Gstove.

[@thewimpycamper7692]

So helpful thanks Jon!!

[@danmalloy6908]

Great review...thanks man.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Dan!