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[@ChristopherMarshburn]

Darn Toughs are amazing. Injinji liners under Darn Toughs is the anti-blister secret sauce. Even in warm weather. Injinji by themselves are frankly not very durable. But under Darn Toughs they will seemingly last forever.

[@john_kelley]

In the winter, I’ve done that, but I can’t in the three seasons. My feet sweat too much.

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

@@john_kelley I can see that. I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum easily getting cold feet lol.

[@superflyboi1]

@@john_kelley try darn tough's thinner and less cushionrd socks. I layer with one advertised for cyclists and its significantly thinner than their hiking ones and my feet are able to breathe with them. To each their own though

[@brandonsmith1647]

Darn tough make your feet sweat period, in my opinion that’s what causes the blisters.

[@bryonjanas9008]

Key is Injinji LINER with Light Weight Darn Tough. Works great. Both companies make thicker socks and that’s not needed for most 3 season trips. I’ll wear that combo right through river sand streams and they dry out about 10-15 minutes later. Paired with Altra Lone Peaks.

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

It frankly mystifies me that huge companies like Osprey and Gregory don’t design and market a line of functional and lightweight backpacks designed for (and maybe by) thru-hikers. With their wholesale buying power they easily could make a sub $200 pack constructed of something like X-PAC with side water bottle pockets, a large mesh back pocket, an adjustable torso and hip belt, large functional hip belt pockets, and make a killing. And why stop there? They could do a similar thing to daypacks and fanny packs.

[@john_kelley]

I’ve seen companies starting to simplify a bit. Having that osprey warranty on a simpler pack would be awesome.

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

@@john_kelley I would love to see a hybrid pack with something like the Osprey air suspension system and made out of the ultra lite materials. Imagine an X-PAC Exos with functional and useful hip belt pockets and daisy chains on the shoulder straps.

[@john_kelley]

@@ChristopherMarshburn that would be really interesting.

[@jonsanford2515]

I think the reason big companies don’t make packs out of the expensive fabrics is because the materials are so expensive, they would need to charge way more than cottage companies to still make a profit. They sell all their gear through retail stores to a mass audience. They need to have adjustable frames and belts that are heavier than a custom fit pack and depend on a random store salesman to sell it, then make their profit plus the retailer mark up. They would have to charge way more for a pack that was heavier than a comparable custom cottage pack, and try to sell that to gear geeks. At the same time depend on some REI salesman, who may or may not, know the difference between DCF and nylon to sell it to an average customer.

[@thughes10990]

Not sure if you all have seen it but I recently got a Osprey Levity “super ultra light “ pack as they market it. It’s about 1lb 12oz ( don’t quote me on that). Super comfortable! Surprisingly lightweight and seems to be durable but that’s still to be seen. I had wanted a ULA ohm 2.0 for about a year and before starting the Sheltowee I went to get it, tried it on and was just overall dissatisfied, the guy at Quest pointed the Osprey Levity out to me and I couldn’t get over the weight and comfort. For an Osprey pack I’d say it’s extremely simple also, 2 functional side pockets that have these ergonomic holes so you can face your water bottles towards you, so you can grab them comfortably with the pack on, that was a big selling point also for me. I had done a lot of research on packs and hadn’t and still haven’t found much on it, it’s a very underrated pack in my opinion.

[@Sky-md9jn]

I like my jet boil. I'm still somewhat new to backpacking and see everyone with their pocket rocket, but I don't think that's for me. It's stable, boils fast, insulated, and easy. I'm happy 😊

[@john_kelley]

Jetboil makes a great product.

[@GIRLplusDOGAdventures]

I love my JetBoils too! I have different ones for different occasions. Love it for the reasons you listed above as well.

[@leeennddaa853]

I love mine!! It just works SO well!

[@bionicdan1959]

I did a multi-day trip to Isle Royale last year with a friend. He had the Jetboil flash stove and I had the BRS-3000. Side by side there was no comparison on how efficient and quickly the Jetboil boiled water compared to the BRS. He was eating his meal by the time my water pot was just starting to boil. Yes, it’s a little heavier, but I love how everything nests inside. It’s not “ultra-lite” but it’s going to be in my pack for this years 2022 PCT journey!

[@p0ddie]

@@bionicdan1959 I have an ultralight setup with a brs 3000 and a titanium mug for bikepacking over weekends. If I would be out and about for longer than 2-3 days I would always use the Jetboil despite being double the weight, because the brs 3000 is so incredibly inefficient and wasteful with gas cartridges. You need almost double the gas to heat up the same amount of water.

[@hailey0917]

Injinji’s are a game changer. My husband and I both use them. He wears the liners under dress socks for work.

[@john_kelley]

I’m definitely a big fan

[@no.9516]

Me: "Oh yes, some controversial opinions on gear " John Kelley: "So these DT socks...." Me: *Feelings immediately hurt*

[@john_kelley]

😂😂😂 It’s only my opinion. Lol

[@no.9516]

@@john_kelley " And I took that personally "

[@Ron_C]

I have the 65 AG and at first I thought it was a mistake, but after a few trips, I finally got the adjustments dialed in and love it. I think, for me, that the hip belt is designed where it sits on my hips perfectly. I'd love a UL pack, but I am hesitant because I worry that all the weigh will be on my shoulders. Amen to the Injini socks for the overlapping toes! I use injinji liners with darn tough socks though!

[@DamianBloodstone]

I've got one pair of Darn tuff socks and it will probably be the only pair. My feet sweat when walking and the darn tuff seem to hold in that sweat and never dry out on the bottoms. Now I have cold feet and hands, so heat should be a problem, but when wearing those socks, I agree, something is amiss for me. I know they are wool, but they don't keep my feet warm when constantly wet from my own sweat. I don't even like them for the cold months because my feet still get wet then cold. My boots were partly to blame but even with ventilated boots, by feet get wet. I bet yours were too. I changed back to cotton for short walks and Wiggy's socks for colder months. (Not camping, just two or more mile walks.) Thanks for all the work and time you put into making these vids. It is truly appreciated by your followers. You give very good advice and reviews.

[@mysterylovescompany2657]

Thanks for another fantastic, & an especially informative, video, John! I've missed you last couple of months of uploads, & am very pleased the algorithm is remembering you for me, again. Love your work. Hope 2022 is proving a fabulous year for you, sir.

[@johnschmalbach8243]

Regarding the trail designs kit you got. For a little bit of extra money you can get the sidelinder where everything fits inside the cook pot. This makes a huge difference in terms of compactness. If you go with the titanium version you can also get add-ons that turn it into a very effective twig stove. The great thing about the cone is not only that it acts as a windscreen. It also helps to focus the heat at the bottom of the pot so you get a faster boil time than you would just using a windscreen with the same pot and burner.

[@WasatchWill]

Great point on the Caldera. I've had that on my wishlist since I when I got into geeking out about alky stoves. I'd never ever considered the bulk of it until now. I'm sure it's still very efficient and functional, but I'm scratching it off my list after seeing how big it is. Don't get to use alcohol stoves very often out here in the dry mountain west anymore anyways because of the increased fire risks. Now gonna have to consider that Optimus for fresh/gourmet style cooking which I often do on trips with my wife. Been using the old MSR WindPro 2 when I want wider flame for skillet cooking but it's a bit bulky and twice the weight of that Optimus. It's still my go-to winter stove though. Atmos is still a fine pack that carries loads really well and comfortably. I just got annoyed with having to pry the hipbept apart to get it around my waist every time I went to put it on.

[@swampyhiker]

Great content. Once I have done a couple of shakedowns with my gear I will let you know. I’m waiting for a custom atom+ pack from atom packs (a uk based cottage company) to arrive. Also awaiting an EE custom quilt to replace a ME bag. I may well order a BRS to try now instead of my PR2 but also considering cold soaking. I guess it’s just trial and error and what works for one may not work for another. Thanks for sharing!

[@aurtisanminer2827]

That osprey pack looked like the frame was about two to three sizes too big. The straps went way up after coming over the chest. I imagine that had an effect on it’s comfort.

[@john_kelley]

I have a really odd torso length. Medium packs are just too short, but large can be a touch too large.

[@Doc_Watson]

Love the Spiguyver stove. I've made a couple. I am currently using the version that uses the top of the can for the inside piece. The can's rim makes it a lot sturdier when you put your pot on it. I too use aluminum foil for a windscreen. We've chatted about the injinji before. Great socks, but I wear them because I typically wear toe shoes (daily & hiking). My regrets? The Sawyer mini, I'm waiting for it to fail so I can justify replacing it. A pocket chainsaw instead of getting a decent folding saw. It works and cuts well, just it's just more difficult keeping the piece of wood braced while cutting it. It's best for felling standing dead, not for processing. An impulse buy 32° sleeping bag - 32 was it's limit rating, not comfort and I didn't check the size. It's better for a small adult, not an overweight, broad shouldered guy like myself. I also don't like the color combination. The pattern displayed was the inside color (bright orange & black) not the outside color that I was expecting it to be. The outer shell was bright blue. I'm not a fan of blue for most camping stuff. It doesn't do too bad as a top quilt in my hammock for 50° or warmer weather. I might remove the zipper and turn it inside out. I should have used the $$ and bought an inexpensive puffy blanket instead for a warm weather top quilt in the colors I want.

[@john_kelley]

I’ve got a sleeping bag I regret getting, too. Maybe I need to plan another one of these videos. 😂

[@crazysquirrel9425]

I piece of furnace duct works as a wind screen. 4" or larger.

[@GIRLplusDOGAdventures]

I switched over from Darn Tough to Injinjis for the Colorado Trail and it made a huge different. Used the liners + sock and definitely never regretted it. Since Darn Tough has the lifetime guarantee, they are now just my regular winter socks or base camp socks.

[@johnrusso4970]

Having backpacked for 30+ years my only regret is the amount of $$$ that I’ve spent upgrading my gear over the years. Granted I try to donate or hand down my previous gear.

[@john_kelley]

I'm a gear loaner now. If I know someone interested in getting out there, I can loan them a full kit easily.

[@alanstrange2421]

Current gear regret: Outdoor Vitals Adventure jacket. I saw the comments about it running a bit small so I ordered an XL instead of a large. But unfortunately it's still too snug. It's a bummer because I really like the jacket otherwise (features, look, price point), and I'm trying to lose some girth so it will fit better. But if that fails, got any puffy jacket suggestions for more stout hikers?

[@john_kelley]

I've got the enlightened equipment torrid pullover, and I love it. Its pretty true to size and has some room in the middle area.

[@alanstrange2421]

@@john_kelley - Thanks much. If I can't manage to get my spare tire to deflate a bit I'll definitely look into that one. :)

[@jeffpeters5347]

I regretted my Oboz Sawtooth2 shoes, but I exchanged them to Altras. Regretted getting the Kelty Galactic 30 sleeping bag, but I gave it to my wife for car camping and she loves it. Funny you mentioned the Osprey Atmos & the BRS. Both works great for me. I used to get blisters with my Darn Toughs, but now I use an Injinji liner sock underneath them. Blisters are a thing of the past

[@john_kelley]

I almost bought some Oboz a few years ago, but the toe box was just too narrow. I'm a fan of Topos right now. They have really done well for me.

[@MichelleCTorresGrant]

I had the EXACT same experiences as you did with the Grayl and Darn Tough socks, and I actually use the same products to which you switched. I still haven't switched backpacks, because I haven't found one that carrys weight better than my relatively heavy Gregory Deva 60. I tried on 30 lbs in an ultralight, and it felt twice as heavy as in my Gregory.

[@Oldsparkey]

CTUG ( Chicken Tramper Ultralight Gear ) makes great gear. I have the 25 liter day pack matched with their 4 liter fanny pack. It makes a great Ultralight set for camping here in Florida. I got one of the Original Grayls ( 15.7 oz empty ) when they 1st came on the market. Used it one time and filed it in the back of my junk drawer. The weight was a negative factor along with the amount of filtered water per use. It and other filters were replaced with the BeFree filter. The BeFree advantage , light weight , large water capacity and packs small. Gas stoves are nice but a long time ago I went back to my original choice of alcohol or wood. Both are quiet unlike the ( Misnamed ) Whisper lite or Pocket Rocket types.

[@DaveOffGrid]

Nice video John! That's what's great about all gear choices, they're all subjective! I would def fight ya on those stove choices but again it's how you're looking at them. You prefer it to be quiet and more compact rather than fuel efficient and quicker and that's all good! I'll be doing a more comprehensive look at the Cone on the channel soon so don't throw it away just yet! 🤣 I think all of us creators secretly knew that about the Grayl from the jump but wanted to give it a run anyways. And I applaud you for sort of going backwards and starting with a much 'better' pack and going with the clunky Osprey. Always good to do field testing to see what all the pomp is about!

[@john_kelley]

I started with Gregory and Osprey. Both companies make bomb proof packs, but I really like the lighter, simpler cottage packs.

[@benhauber1979]

Thanks for the tip on the stove. Think I'll just stick with the BRS. On the alcohol stove, I enjoy my Caldera cone, but I've modified it to make it lighter and more compact. Youch! My feet love Darn Tough socks. I've hiked a few hundred total miles in Darn Toughs and I haven't had a single blister. I typically hike 10 to 15 miles a day. Great video. Thanks for sharing your experience and insights!

[@benknight4600]

Yes on the darn tough! Can't wear them on trail because my feet sweat too much. I thought I was the only one 🤣

[@medekmom]

What do u do with all the equipment u decide isn't for u? And I regret spending $ on Keen waterproof boots. I had heel blisters that took forever to heal and my toes were constantly sore. I wear Altra trail runners now & won't go back I wear Wigwam socks. They are cushioned, affordable, and water wicking.

[@roselee_explores]

Totally love the Injinjis! One item that I've found that seems to work for most but not me was the Thermarest XLite sleeping pad. It's just not comfortable nor very warm (especially below 40 degrees) ... so I'll be making the return to the Nemo Tensor.

[@john_kelley]

I've had a tensor for 4 years, and I love it.

[@roselee_explores]

@@john_kelley yea fortunately I've had one but got away from ground dwelling for a little while. But since I've went back to ground dwelling ... I'm trying to work what pad is best. I definitely think it's way more comfy especially for side sleeping! Happy trails :)

[@corbinsdaddy]

I’m a huge Tensor fan as well. Have the insulated and non insulated version. Pair with the switchback foam pad on the really cold nights or sharper locations.

[@DetraDearmas]

Took one look at osprey and rejected it. Have a Swiss made 45 with frame. Love it still using it put it through the mill. Thought about a ultralight pack like yall use for when it's just me and not carrying extra for kids. It's just kinda big for hammock camping my way.let use know how that filter does. Like the double caps

[@chriseidam7319]

I have three different canister stoves, including the BRS-3000 and an original Pocket Rocket, a plethora of homemade alcohol stoves, a Dragon Fuel stove and a Trail Designs Ti-Tri Sidewinder twig/Esbit/alcohol stove. The Trail Designs is by-far my favorite. Yes, it has bulk. But I use most of the space in the plastic container to fill with fuel, a lighter, matches, a spoon, etc.. The container doubles as a beverage cup and a meal cup (there are two pieces). I suggest you try that stove. It is the most efficient, quickest alcohol stove ever tested, plus it has two height settings, i.e. temperature settings, which is uncommon in twig/Esbit/alcohol stoves.

[@DirtyDirtbath]

I definitely have to agree about the darn tough socks. Compared to smartwool , I 100% prefer smartwool. I get 4 comfortable days out of smartwool, 2 out of darn tough. I also find darn tough to be tighter , and I mean uncomfortably tight (on my feet at least) , I looooove injinji though but they're thr worst in winter IMO. I had the warmest pair of smartwool I own over top of my injinji liners and within 40 min my toes were frozen. My biggest regret as far as gear goes is an "insulated" klymit sleeping pad I got a couple years ago, definitely should have gotten something with a better r value

[@hypo345]

My Crux came with a pot rest arm missing and the non stick coating from the pot started peeling off after the first use. I’m using SOTO stoves now and very happy with them.

[@jaynecobb5774]

I love my Kelty West Coast external. I know its old school, but it has always been comfy and worked every time.

[@YankeeTankerOutdoors]

Great video.. May I ask where you got that Columbia shirt you are wearing in the video?

[@john_kelley]

The Columbia outlet in Simpsonville, KY

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

In terms of gear I regretted buying I’ll be controversial and say it was my Trangia cookset way back in 1981. It came with two pots, a lid that was also a frying pan and a kettle. Even when nested it was the size of a small car. And it was really really hard to find meths in the middle of a German forest on a Sunday. I went over to using an Optimus SVEA and a ‘tin mug’ (I believe you’d call it a ‘canteen’) and that combination lasted me for 20 years. You can find unleaded petrol (‘gas’) anywhere…

[@john_kelley]

Some of those older trangia sets were monsters.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Try a Firebox Stove.

[@jonsanford2515]

Regrets- Altra shoes. I tried the Lone Peaks and Timps. I love the toe box, and they are super comfortable right out of the box. But, after about200 miles, the soles compress too much to stay comfortable. The balls of my feet ache if I walk more than 5 miles in them after that. I switched to Topo Ultraventure, and the first pair are still comfortable after a year and a half. I bought a second pair on clearance when the first pair was a year old, and have been rotating them to extend the life of both.

[@KirstenBayes]

It's kind of unpredictable. I bought a Snugpack Ionosphere tent 18 months back and for a full year was like, "nah, not this trip". Then I made myself try it on a work trip and really loved it, was snug as a bug (and no bugs on me!).

[@john_kelley]

You just never know sometimes.

[@BlackcatOutdoors]

My regrets = every pack until the next one. 😁 Just haven't found the perfect one yet, but I'm pretty close with the Gossamer Gear Kumo I'm trying this year. I've been through everything from $40 Walmart packs to Gregory, Granite Gear, and Zpacs. GG is closest for me so far, just might need a little more volume for colder temps.

[@john_kelley]

It's definitely a journey trying to find "the one".

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Perfect pack is one that has all you need and light enough for your wife to carry for you. If she can carry it, so can you!

[@aaronmcghee2286]

Have to agree with the Darn Tough. Though after I done about 100 miles in them they don't cause any blisters or hot spots (except on really hot days). Feels like I had to break them in, not what I need on a hiking sock.

[@john_kelley]

I did all of the Sheltowee Trace in them. 323 miles. Still got blisters. It stinks, because they have a great warranty and are comfortable....until I hike long miles in them.

[@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING]

Great video John! Love this idea. I have had a lot of buyers remorse. I think you brought that backpack to Cheaha. I remember you saying it wasn’t working. Great videos. Crow✌️

[@joannehaberman8923]

I am probably going to get slammed for this but I regret buying the Thermarest neoair Xlite that almost every thru hiker uses. I have the Big Agnus AXL and have been pretty satisfied. I thought it was comfortable but rather loud and does not have the best ratings. So when the thermarest went on sale I thought I would "upgrade". Sadly in a side by side comparison the thermarest is heavier, bulkier, louder and not as comfortable to me than the Big Agnus. Guess I will be sticking with my Big A!!

[@john_kelley]

It really is about the user. There's no universally perfect piece of gear.

[@DirtyDirtbath]

Heavier you say? Which neoair? Uberlite?

[@joannehaberman8923]

@@DirtyDirtbath The neoair is bulkier and heavier than the Big Agnus. Have not tried the uberlite

[@DirtyDirtbath]

@@joannehaberman8923 which neoair, though? Besides the uberlite there is the xlite and xtherm, I currently have my eyes set on the uberlite though but am definitely open to other options if they're around the same weight range

[@joannehaberman8923]

@@DirtyDirtbath oh right....sorry. I meant the neoair Xlite. The yellow one that many people have.

[@redred333]

I thought I wouldn't be offended until you mentioned the darn toughs lol. Injinjis are good to go as well. I will say though, that you wrote that you used the 1/4 cushion? I've never even heard of those and I think you should try the regular ones before you write them off completely. Also, getting blisters on the bottom middle of your feet might indicate flat footed behavior. Might get that checked out before it becomes a bigger issue. Could work on arch support strengthening exercises. Good luck

[@john_kelley]

I've tried almost every version of Darn tough socks from their thinest to their most insulated. None have fared well for me. I also have massive arches. There's a shot of them in one of my more recent videos. It was the Darn Toughs.

[@scottgrogan1166]

I have an Osprey Atmos 65 and a couple of popular cottage company packs. My Osprey is heavier but the design makes it feel lighter and much more comfortable than the others. It’s like comparing a Lexus to a Pinto for me! Of course I haven’t tried all of the cottage company backpacks but I’m hesitant to buy another one based on my experience.

[@john_kelley]

If the Osprey works for you, stick with it. It's all about what works best for you. There are some cottage company packs I don't like either.

[@techguy9023]

The Caldera cone size is dependent on your pot. The Sidewinder is a smaller cone. They make a drastic difference in efficiency for alcohol.

[@mkultrahikes]

I'm with you on the darn tough. I'm a injini person and I only use darn tough for camp. Great video! That water filter was ridiculous.

[@justjonoutdoors]

Grayl - I carry one on every trip, but it is a secondary filter to my Sawyer Squeeze. I still love it, and will never not carry it.

[@john_kelley]

I know a lot of people who feel the same way

[@DMSAdventures]

Geez I considered getting a lot of these things that you regret but for one odd reason or another haven't gotten them. Considered Darn Toughs (Did get some for my daughter but not for me) Considered the Grayl, just seemed to big and bulky! Considered other stoves including the Pocket Rocket but have stayed with my BRS! I don't have anything I REALLY regret buying but I did buy a Kammok Kuhli tarp that I wish I would have gotten a bigger version of. I should've went all out on something BIG & lightweight for that!!

[@jamesking4225]

The crux is a great stove, but I’ve had problems with the pot supports falling apart on two so I’m using the pocket rocket now lol. You can’t beat the quick draw I got one the day rei got them in and haven’t looked back.

[@user-og9fg2pz5p]

If you are taking video topic suggestions, I'd love to see a long(er) term review of that platypus quickdraw 😊 great videos you got there, keep it up! 😊

[@john_kelley]

That will probably be late summer or fall.

[@Dante07cid]

Depart on the socks. I wear Darn Tough every day, hiking or not. I do agree with Injini however. I hike in both. Only 2 brands I own. I love the Grayl but as you stated, not for backpacking. I keep them in every vehicle and anytime I travel from home. I see it as a must have everyday carry and survival item. For hiking I use the Katadyn BeFree.

[@BigGP100]

Injini liners under Darn Toughs is my go to every time I go out. Mix and match thickness to match the weather. I never have problems with my feet.

[@Starscreamlive]

I love my Osprey Atmos 50. Only downside to it for me is that it is squeaky. Different strokes and all that, right? I feel ya on that alcohol stove though!

[@leeennddaa853]

Another: bought a pair of Altra Lone Peak 4.5's (as every thru-hiker raves about them). And while I do like their wide toe box and gaiter traps, they offer like, ZERO toe protection. I found out the hard way that I don't pick up my feet so readily on longer hikes, and especially on night hikes. Let's just say I almost thought I was gonna lose a toenail after one night of stubbing my toes multiple times with zero protection from my shoes. I definitely went out and bought a shoe with better toe protection after that!

[@kristymoore7052]

This may sound crazy to most, but I don’t like my CNOC bags. They are too big for my hands to scoop water and I also can’t tell you how many times I’ve been soaked by it exploding out on the other end. Also, I purchased an alcohol stove 2+ years ago and have never tried it. Am apparently afraid of it.

[@AmyHikes]

I’ve never broken down and bought darn tough socks yet. They are so expensive. I use and love REI socks. They are a little bit cheaper and I haven’t had any problems with them.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

I have the pocket rocket deluxe. Yes it is a little loud especially when you turn it up. But I bought mine for home use in case of grid failure so a little noise is not a big deal. I don't go hiking or camping. Oh and I bought a Harbor Freight ax. It kept getting stuck in the wood, and was brand new. Bought a Fiskars ax. Batons like going through butter. I can't comment on much else other than I have a Trangia Alcohol Stove and a Firebox Stove.

[@john_kelley]

Fiskars makes some great stuff.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

@@john_kelley Their maul is pretty good too. Got that as well. Not pleased with the orange coloring though.

[@bendover4496]

Say it aint so Joe! Say it aint So! on the Darn Tuff Socks! I would look at my shoes or something else before I blamed Darn Tuff socks.

[@john_kelley]

I've tried 6 different trail runners with the darn tough, and they all end the same. With the toe socks I never have a problem.

[@alexwbanks70]

I got that same Caldera cone & Kona stove. I agree its just way too big. I have taken it out a couple times but now I just take the BRS or a DIY alcohol stove.

[@p0ddie]

I regret buying the sea to summit x-brew coffee dripper. It's heavy, the filter sieve is too fine so you basically need to stir the ground coffee all the time. If you take out the sieve for cleaning then it's a pain ita to put it back in. I sold it and am much happier with a GSI java drip or the french press filter for my Jetboil.

[@thebrizzy]

I use darn tough socks but I always use sock liners. Grayl has its placed but too heavy for a long trip. Next stove I’ll get will be the Crux.

[@john_kelley]

I use the injinji liners with socks over them in cold weather, but that combo makes my feet sweat horribly from spring through fall. I agree on the Grayl.

[@Colorado_Kkid]

John you make a great point ... Which is everybody is different ... So when it comes to new gear you need to test it yourself and decide whether or not it works for you ... As they say "Hike Your Own Hike!"

[@john_kelley]

Yessir.

[@justjonoutdoors]

The Optimus Crus is an AWESOME stove - it’s the only isobutane stove I use (I use alcohol stoves mostly), but when I need to seriously throw some heat to cook for groups, the Optimus is the bomb!

[@john_kelley]

I actually had quit using canister stoves, but the Crux brought me back. 😂

[@christelledixon9366]

I'll have to look at this crux as currently using the BRS which is fine for boiling water but not really for cooking more advanced meals. I have a 20+ year old Epigas stove for that which iI may upgrade at some stage.

[@TheTrailDancer]

You and I are so different on packs... I hate packs with just one pocket, drives me crazy! : LOL I used Fjällräven packs... amazing and carries SO WELL! , but heavy... I don't mind... That stove is amazing! :) Foot wear is the most important!

[@robertclark8044]

The Osprey Atmos is my third pack and easily the most comfortable. Different strokes for different folks. Darn tough work great for me also. Hike on!

[@tammieflemal7871]

Started with the woman’s version love the anti gravity system. Bought the lighter 45 liter a couple years ago same ag system and half the weight

[@john_kelley]

Truth. I know a lot of people who absolutely love that pack. I'm just not one of them. Same with the Darn Toughs.

[@nicholasbrownfield9264]

@@john_kelley love the channel. If your selling the pack let me know. 😁😁

[@gretchenlopez787]

Same here with darn tough, just not for me. But injinji are life and for me wright socks are amazing too!

[@WildVetChronicles]

Thanks for sharing! We need to hear about mistakes along with wins in backpacking 👏

[@aurtisanminer2827]

I wish I had known about that optimus stove being able to simmer really well when I was still shopping for a stove. It’s really hard to find a backpacking stove that will do that. Almost every test I’ve seen online was just people seeing how fast they’ll boil water and how much long they will last on fuel. But when you’re trying to simmer a meal a lot of those do not turn down very far and you end up burning your food. That small burnt spot will ruin the flavor of your whole meal. Lol. I got an msr pocket rocket deluxe that simmers really well but I dont like how big it is. I also found an $8 stove very similar to the brs that actually simmers better than anything else I’ve found.

[@brycetheshredder]

What stove for 8?

[@aurtisanminer2827]

@@brycetheshredder it was labeled as a brs when I first found it. The name keeps changing. I’ll see if I can find the link. I got it on ebay and bought a second one on either ebay or amazon, I dont remember which. The name changed but it was the same stove.

[@john_kelley]

The pocket rocket deluxe and the crux stove have similar sized burners, but the crux actually folds down flat, which is really nice for packing things up.

[@john_kelley]

The BRS stove is actually just a stove that multiple companies make and just put their logo on it. The BRS gained popularity years ago when Darwin put it in one of his videos. If it looks like the BRS, it's probably the same stove with another companies name stamped on it.

[@aurtisanminer2827]

@@john_kelley yea, the cheap one that I found is similar. It comes in multiple names.

[@kicker6274]

Is the Playpus lighter than the Sawyer mini? It costs a lot more...

[@SeniorHiker77]

Quickdraw filer is a keeper and darn tuff socks work for me. Lol

[@aaronbarndollar]

I’ve purchased a few different pairs of DT socks and they all fit differently, and none well. I even have the same pair in 2 colors and each color fits differently. Probably the least comfortable socks I’ve had.

[@jasonrice476]

I found my darn tough sock toe box to be really tight. Defeating the purpose of my altra timps toe box letting my toes spread out. So tight it caused blisters between toes. Love the injiji proposal and will be giving it a try!

[@john_kelley]

I've always liked them for just wearing around, but they really haven't performed greatly for me on trail.

[@john_kelley]

There's definitely some freedom with your toes actually being able to truly splay out with the injinjis.

[@CaptMuntz]

My XL UGQ quilt with over stuff. 800 fps. It’s an amazing quilt but I didn’t take into consideration how much volume it would occupy. I think I’m going to sell it.

[@BosomBuddyCreations]

Gear I regret: I am with you on the darn tough socks. ugh. The sizing of the darn tough were a bit off too. Also regret a rocket stove I bough off amazon. Dont remember the name, but its heavy and is hard to light.

[@john_kelley]

It seems like there's mixed results on the Darn Tough socks for everyone in the comments. I'm glad to know that my experience with them isn't just me. LOL

[@josephjamison5007]

Point 6 are a superior sock to Darn Tough, I used Point 6 on my PCT thruhike and only had to get new socks once. They have the same warranty as Darn Tough, but last longer.

[@mackjenkins7721]

Hey buddy how's it going. This was a good one. The one thing that I regret is back when I could wear shoes and socks I went out and bought a pair of hiking shoes & sock cuz my buddy one wanted me to go on a 10-mile hike with him. That was one bad decision I made. I got the worst blister on my toes. My buddy was saying it's because of my wide feet & my toes being straight across & very fat & wide. The shoe rub through the socks & blister to where it started to bleed. When we got off the trail the first thing I did was got barefooted 👣real fast. My foot was very wide & my toes was big then but not as fat & wide as my toes are now & my foot wasn't extremely wide as it is now. My lil toe was very very sore for months behind that. I ended up throwing those shoes a way immediately.

[@john_kelley]

Hey Mack!!! Blisters are miserable. When the whole point of hiking is using your feet, there's nothing worse that having that kind of pain....on your feet!

[@mackjenkins7721]

@@john_kelley you nailed it right on the point buddy. Especially when you are a big dude putting all that pressure on your foot. It will stop you right dead in your track making it for a miserable trip.

[@bEaStO5]

Toe socks for the win. Went backpacking with some friends and they made fun of my toe socks but I had "zero" blisters. everyone else had blisters. I had the last laugh lol

[@john_kelley]

I agree. I'll probably never use anything else.

[@joemadre9550]

Backpacks don't need to be over 20oz anymore. Its overkill. Unless you're carrying over twenty and having a bad time on a day hike its just not feasible. Were you using a liner sock?

[@DragonRoams]

Nice list the good thing about so many options your bound to find what works for you. With the Osprey I'm surprised you didn't go with the Exos it's 2lbs without the brain and just under 2.5 with the brain. They make good packs but you ended up with a good one for you. My Vaude backpack is my biggest gear mistakes and it's mostly because I didn't get properly sized for my pack when I started backpacking. It's a great pack but could be so much better if it fit me better. Classic beginner mistake I know but every pack since that first one has fit me so well so lesson learned.

[@leeennddaa853]

Bought the Osprey Lumina backpack... was thinking "ok it's really light, and less pockets" (ya know, more of the style YOU tend to prefer) ...and then once I took it out on a hike, I realized that the mesh padding that's used on the shoulder straps is a lot different than that used on my Osprey Aura backpack (which is my go-to). Unfortunately after just one hike with it, I had to return it to REI as the mesh material on the straps just rubbed my shoulders RAW. I always hike in a tank top (since I'm down in good ol' HOTTER THAN HELL Georgia) so this bag just wasn't gonna work for me. Disappointing. I was really hoping it woulda been a good one.

[@audrey3319]

I bought same darn tough and they murdered my feet too. Too hot, too tight,,,,now either injiji or thin smart wool cycle socks

[@karmaclanton5544]

As far as the Grale goes, I want to love it, but I'm in Arizona and water is not so easy to find and when you do it's dirty like cow pond dirty(sh!%). I don't think it will work here.

[@john_kelley]

Don't get me wrong. I think it's a great product. I just don't like it for backpacking.

[@ShartedKegs]

Have the same osprey pack. I want to love it, have literally no reason not too. Build quality is fantastic, feels super comfortable, doesn’t pretend to be anything it’s not, But I just don’t use it and find myself squeezing things into a smaller/lighter pack. That said, I can’t let go of it…

[@justjonoutdoors]

It’s a shame you never used your Caldera Cone - I use the Fusion Ti-Tri - having the //wonderful// windscreen/heat capture //and// the ability to use it as a gassifying wood burner is rather awesome. I get about a 3-1/2 minute boil time on 2 cups of water using a Trangia spirit burner in the Fusion. It only takes a minute to set up, and it makes wind conditions almost a non-issue when it comes time to cook.

[@john_kelley]

How bulky is that?

[@justjonoutdoors]

Everything (except fuel) fits in a 1350ml pot.

[@scubahiker]

I just got the Fusion Ti-Tri for my toaks 650. It all fits inside the toaks!

[@justjonoutdoors]

I ordered mine with the 1350ml pot - I believe they custom size them to the pot and design them to fit inside the pot as well.

[@lamsyams8574]

Man goes I’m not a ultralight backpacker but this beer can stove is what works for me 😂

[@gregmortonoutdoors]

I can't get on board with the Injinji socks. They make me feel like my toes just ate a rack of ribs with a side of corn on the cob and I don't have dental floss.

[@john_kelley]

😂😂😂 That's hilarious! I actually had to read that comment to my wife. She was dying! LOL

[@Slow_poke_hiker]

I could not agree more about the Optimus Crux. Absolutely love mine!

[@john_kelley]

I've really liked that stove a lot.

[@stephanmedlin7323]

I’m a big fan. And as a big fan I would be a bad person if I didn’t suggest you review the Atom+ Backpack. Like yourself, I’m not an ultra lite backpacker. But I love this pack!

[@labellaescrima1996]

I absolutely agree with you: Darn Tough socks stink, get rid of them go for injinji, smartwool, wigwam they are the best. Darn Tough are not worth the money you spend on them I know had same problems got rid of them and never regretted it!

[@john_kelley]

They definitely aren't for me.

[@TheNoobHiker]

Regrets = Klymit static v 20-inch pad, Klymit static v lux 30-inch pad, Nemo Aurora 2p tent for backpacking,.

[@MidwestMotocamp]

Starting to regret buying a duplex. I'll know for sure once my Xmid pro comes in.

[@EspenFrafalne]

I have not tried the Atmos, but i have the much cheaper Osprey Rook 65 - which is about a pound lighter than the Atmos - and i think this is a great pack for heavier loads (especially for this price). Supposedly the Atmos is more comfortable, but at least the Rook works for me. Stuff i regret buying will have to be the very expensive Katadyn Pocket water filter. The price made me think that i was getting the Rolls Royce of water filters, LOL! Really bulky and heavy - and i will never buy a pump style water filter again 😏

[@justjonoutdoors]

Socks - Silverlight BABY!!! Love them! Love them so much, I wear them every day at work (where I am typically on my feet all day…)

[@john_kelley]

I'll have to check them out.

[@rainypath96]

I also bought the grayl and never use it…. my 2nd regretful purchase was my hmg backpack lol but I can’t lie, it is sick

[@JackKlumpass]

Should tried an Exos or Talon, but I’m with you on that anyway. I regret the amount of money I did on osprey but their customer services are great nevertheless. On reflection I’d have bought MLD frameless HMG or Atompacks. Although, I can’t see how you’ve said the caldera didn’t work for you where you hadn’t even tried it? It’s bulky but still very light. Id love one but they no longer ship to UK. Best socks are Silverlight, best by a country mile, you should check them out. And they have a lifetime guarantee. Anyway, each to their own and well done for speaking out on how you feel about your stuff.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@roberttrough6439]

Darn Tough socks are not big enough for shoe size. I wear a 13 shoe. Also Darn Tough are so tight on my feet. I need a wider sock. I agree Darn Tough are a good sock for some. Great guarantee for them. That stove was enormous. KZbinrs are gadget geeks! Love you man! Your still a gadget geek. Hahaha 🤣! Some day I’ll make you an altoid stove which uses three fuels your choice. It’s small light super easy to use. The Grayel filter is heavy. I only use it to filter. I had Giardiasis once in my youth. Not a fun time at all. I filter, filter, filter all my water. Did I say filter? Yes filter water. I even drink my filtered water through a filter for the third filter. Giardiasis can dehydrate and kill you. Don’t take chances with water quality. We pack our fears!

[@rainypath96]

Oh naw, I wear darn tough socks nearly every day of the week. I only need one more pair

[@OGTylerP]

love my crux stove... doesn't sound like a saturnV rocket...

[@deborahhill3105]

Nice video John! I never understood everyone’s obsession with the Grayl last year. Looks great for international travel, but backpacking? Um, no.

[@ElColeccionistaZ]

Congratulations My Friend 👍...

[@john_kelley]

Thanks!

[@AJMarrara]

Cheap sleeping pads! I’ve bought enough that I should have just bought the Nemo right off the bat.

[@john_kelley]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Jarom.M]

I've got some of the sweatiest feet on the planet and darn toughs are the only sock for me. Looking at your feet in the video tells me you need footwear with better ventilation. I'd recommend looking into something that'll increase airflow around your feet to prevent them from turning into prunes to begin with.

[@SimplyLesa]

Omgosh - I am going to tell you here, but I am embarrassed myself on this one, I spent Covid-19 money on the stove of my dreams - well both of them and the cook kit! (So embarrassed)... Firebox Nano and 5in both in Ti. Omg they are good stoves. I love Steve and Family and the company. But I don't LOVE the stoves FOR ME and my use. I already gave the Nano away. (So embarrassed) I have a VanLifer friend that'll probably get the other one in the spring. I'm still a daily alcohol stove user! (Incidentally I am allergic to propane and iso butane is a mix of butane and propane). I currently use a Toaks siphon stove for coffee n morning eggs. Charcoal outside or woodstove inside for porridge and am a huge Thermal pot method user! Tents: years ago I bought a NON RETURNABLE $1100 Playa Dome tent for car camping and use on my Off-grid Property. (Shaking head and rolling my eyes) couldn't set it up alone, free range cattle stepped on the rebar stakes that actually held it down and the wind blew it off a cliff. No real windows and no floor freaked me out in Arizona with my fears of snakes n rodents and coyotes and....lol! Okay my costly mistakes are out in the open. Edit to add: and on my attempted Thru hike of the AT in 2011. At my first pack shake down I gave up my No Name Backpack from Central America and replaced it with a $300 name brand --- mistake. Never could get the comfort and features back

[@evanhammond7305]

I don't know how you guys can use alcohol stove. I've tried several times they just don't work well for me.

[@john_kelley]

I've tried several different ones, and I like them. They aren't for everyone.

[@ZachBrimhall]

Disagree totally about the Grayl filter purifier. I have the 26oz bigger version. It's amazing in the backcountry.

[@boysinthewoods4189]

REI will buy that backpack back from you. They send a bag to ship it to them. they look it over and give you a substantial amount of money for these old gear items sitting in the closet. Even Shoes. I got $45 dollars for a pair of used merrell hiking shoes.