Buying a high mileage used Tesla model 3 Long range? Cost review since I bought it at 57k

[@Jamesandkate]

Great vid, pal. The bush fitted is £110+vat per side, for the next time you need it 🤟

[@chargeheadsuk]

Thanks for highlighting. Need to work out what bushes i might need now. Got some goodies to fit as well 😉

[@commuterbranchline8132]

I drive a 2022 MY LR and it needed two rear knuckles And two front outer front bearings replaced at 39,000 miles. I’m happy happy it was done under warranty, but a little disappointed that a £56k car needs that work done at 40k miles. I’ll probably go back to a Model 3 as it’s a nicer drive. HEVRA garages and Cleeverly are doing sterling work at realistic prices. Great videos!

[@chargeheadsuk]

Yes Hevra and Cleevely is where to go for most EV maintenance 💯. Thanks for your comment 😉

[@B0BHW]

Super video Tim! I'm a driving instructor using my 2019 Tesla Model 3 Long Range as a tuition car. Plus the good fortune of being based just 5 minute's drive from Cleevely EV. Shout out to Matt Cleevely. And James Coates (James & Kate on KZbin), Cleevely Mobile Service. Learner drivers' parents frequently ask me "what is the car really like?" After all, their kids must be exaggerating, right? So, I feel obliged to warn them not to sit in the driver's seat and try it out... sure enough, they want one! No advertising needed. This is a product that sells itself.

[@chargeheadsuk]

Thanks 🙏, i took my friend out in mine recently who's a driving instructor. A no brainer for a learner car an EV IMO 👍

[@BazOEM]

Can I just ask, isn’t a Tesla very different to drive than a cheap car that a first time driver would be able to afford ? One pedal driving and all of the automated safety features etc. wouldn’t it benefit a first time driver to learn in an older car with less features so when they end up in a Peugeot 206 or a clapped out fiesta they know how to drive it and aren’t surprised when they start rolling backwards on an incline at a junction ?

[@B0BHW]

@@BazOEM Yes, you're correct. The Tesla is very different to drive than a cheap car with an internal combustion engine and manual transmission. When I commenced teaching learner drivers in the Tesla three years ago, I offered a specific lesson to 'convert' to driving an automatic ICE. Without exception this proved to be unnecessary as they quickly adapt using the brake pedal to control their ICE car 'running on' when they lift off the gas and requirement to use the brake pedal to maintain 'snail's pace' speed and hold the vehicle in position when parking. The main complaint I hear is that their parent's car in which they're practising is noisy, it's 'clunky', takes 'forever' to accelerate, doesn't stop properly without lots of braking and they have to select Park and apply Handbrake when waiting at traffic lights. As for "when they start rolling backwards on an incline at a junction"... automatic petrol and diesel cars don't do this either. Apologies, I'm not trying to be patronising, but to be clear, learner drivers taking lessons in an electric car are applying for an Automatic Full Driving Licence. They won't be driving manual transmission unless they take another driving test to do so. When I first tried an electric car back in 2015, after 45 years of driving manual and automatic transmission ICE cars... I couldn't believe my luck!

[@williamarmstrong7199]

​@0barrington0 Passing a driving test in a Tesla or any other EV means you can only drive an automatic car. So driving a manual is not an option. Also, once you drive an EV, driving any fossil car is something you will find completely horrible.

[@williamarmstrong7199]

I have now done over 150,000 miles on my cheap as chips MG5. No issues at all, no loss of range, a perfect car for taxi work and driving instructors. I have saved over £24000 so far in 3 years, 10 months. Many customers have never been in an EV before. Everyone loves the EV.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@williamarmstrong7199 Nice work!!! 61Kwh?

[@jamo9000]

Great Video Tim, I've had my M3P for almost 5 yrs now (one of the first to collect in the UK) and it's been fantastic! By far the best car I've owned and like you I plan to run it for as long as possible. Still feels and drives like new too. Taking advantage of Octopus Go/Intelligent and most charging being at home, over the last 5 yrs it's averaged out at about 2-3p a mile - which is just incredible for a car that does 0-60 in 3s!

[@chargeheadsuk]

Amazing, great to hear stories like this 💯⚡️🙏

[@DaleSteel]

Was it... electrifying

[@B0BHW]

Looks like I collected my 2019 M3LR at the same time as yours. I'm a driving instructor using it as a learner driver tuition car. The car still excites me every day and it goes without saying that learners can't believe their luck - especially those that have repeatedly failed tests before in manual transmission ICEs or been shouted at by their driving instructors for stalling at traffic lights, hill starts, moving off from roadside etc. As for Octopus charging overnight at home for only 7.5p per kWh... extraordinary! 7.5p divided by 4 = 1.9p per mile!!

[@DaleSteel]

@@B0BHW what range? I'm considering a used one

[@B0BHW]

@@DaleSteel I charge my 5 year old Tesla to 80% every night and the car tends to read 250 to 255 miles in the rare event I change the battery icon to miles instead of %age. In my case, more than enough range to carry out 3 or 4 two hour driving lessons a day. However, I never tend to bother with mileage range and leave the battery icon on %age. Overnight charging means the 'tank' is always full every morning. What's more, the superchargers on the Tesla Supercharging network are fast, reliable and completely trouble free to use. Buy a Tesla Model 3 or Y, especially the Long Range or Performance models and I doubt you'll ever think about 'range'. Totally awesome vehicles. My only regret is driving ICEs for so many years and worse... teaching learners to drive them!

[@trickshotish]

Looks bloody lovely that motor

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@trickshotish 🙏 more to come 😉

[@Areku06]

My model 3 dual motor almost has 100k miles and main thing I had to replace was control arms, I replaced all of them in front, about $500 DIY. Not bad besides tires for 100k miles, almost looks new inside. I agree model 3 in today market is the best car for the money. My BMW’s were much more expensive to maintain. Batteries on model 3 long range made to last 500k miles, some already have almost 400k on model 3 LR. My model 3 saves me $300 a month in fuel cost compare to my bmw 335i, it’s $6 a gallon here.

[@chargeheadsuk]

I hope Rustee lasts, just about to add some nice bits to her

[@johnhogan6563]

Who the hell thought those wheels look good! Lol

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@johnhogan6563 🖐

[@ashleynewman3360]

Sometimes it's about being unique.

[@GG63015]

Nicely put together mate, thanks for the info. Love the way you keep the detailed price sheet.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@GG63015 thanks 🙏

[@fentuz]

@chargeheadsuk could you please detail why you went with spherical bearing rather than std bushes? In my experience, bushed are pretty much fit and forget whereas spherical bearing requires maintenance especially if the rubber boot is not sealed. I had the nasty experience of one of these corroding, locking and breaking and am not the only lotus driver with such experience.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@fentuz its a great point, also it often makes more noise. These specific Mountain Pass Performance spherical bearings were recommended to my by a friend who has a wralth of time attach experience and said they where an upgrade and still great on the road. Ive recently last week changed the arms and the spherical bearings were taken out of the old arms and put in the new ones and still in great condition. They are sealed from memory. I hope that helps

[@Jaw0lf]

Great video after 3 years with my fantastic Kia E Niro 4+, I have now got a Tesla Model 3. Great to hear that maintenance has been cheap for your last 45,000 miles. Fuel savings alone are incredible, around £3.30 for 200 miles is an amazing thing when you can charge at home on a cheap rate of 7.5pence. I have just found your channel and now subscribed!

[@chargeheadsuk]

Thanks for your comment and subscribing 👍👍

[@chrishart8548]

That's really good 2p a mile is not that difficult if charging at 7.5p a kW 200miles in a a normal car would cost more like £40 could probably use a whole tank doing 400miles and cost over £100 to fill it back up.

[@antoniopalmero4063]

I’m deciding if I should buy a dual motor 2020 model 3 or a 2021 e Nero 4+ . Both are ~ £15k

[@Jaw0lf]

@@antoniopalmero4063 Try driving both, for me the Tesla Model 3 may have firm suspension that I did not like. The Kia was a great EV but does charge slower and is well suited to a 50kWh charger and a 45 - 50 minute lunch/coffee stop if doing a long trip. I did not do many long trips but on the ones I did, it worked out very well, with it needing to charge when I needed to. Tesla will be a quicker charge and give access to the super charger network. I have the new 2024 M3 that is a very good upgrade over the older one.

[@antoniopalmero4063]

@@Jaw0lf Thanks , I think I’ll go for the long range model 3 because if I got the Kia I would always be wondering what the Tesla would be like. I’m upgrading from a 2019 leaf Tekna so will be missing out on a few luxuries unless I go for a 2021 model 3 . I’m only 58 so not old enough for a Kia e Nero anyway 🤣.

[@jonjoe42]

Great channel. I'm subscribed! By co-incidence I am in the market to buy a second hand Model 3 LR myself at the moment. Good time to buy!

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@jonjoe42 i'd say so 💯

[@MrBlackCoffee96]

Co-incidence? You clicked this vid 😂 certainly not random

[@LB-W]

What is happening with vehicle tax on Tesla’s? What about MOT’s not many service centres.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@LB-W depends on age and the original price. £180 upwards. Tesla dealers dont do MOT's. Any MOT centre can do a Tesla, its just a car. I'd recommend a HEVRA garage, go to the website and add your postcode to find your nearest.

[@LB-W]

@@chargeheadsuk wow thought Tesla insurance had gone through the roof. Thanks for the info.

[@minkyman23]

Nice one Tim! Great info to know! Keep them coming 👍🏻

[@chargeheadsuk]

💯 will do Marcus 😉

[@Joe-lb8qn]

The thing about charging to 80% and range (and then detractors say "see you car cant do more than say 220 miles) is that the 80% "rule" is for general use, every day (or week or whatever) charging. If you are going on a long trip theres absolutely no reason not to charge to 100% on the day of the trip especially if that might mean you dont need to stop at all. You just shouldnt charge to 100% then leave for days. ETA subbed

[@chargeheadsuk]

Absolutely, i charged to 95% Tuesday as I knew i was going further, just not every time I charge 🤷‍♂️

[@usefulrandom1855]

@@chargeheadsuk Taking mine to Germany for the Euros, will be leaving for the first time with 100% for that one haha!

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@usefulrandom1855 lol don't blame you, juat try to slow it down so you leave straight away or close to once it gets there😉

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

Worth adding that LFP Battery pack Teslas (Standard range) WANT you to charge to 100% regularly. They are unaffected by charging to 100%. I went on a 950 mile round trip to the North West Of Ireland in February last year and it was effortless. We had to stop before The Model Y LR did. You get detractors saying they can do 800 miles non-stop in a diesel [and piss carefully into a Lucozade bottle?] but will then go into denial when it is pointed out to them that they are paying through the nose to be able to do this.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@JoeMcMorrow-k7e Lucozade bottles are a must, perfect for camping. Lol

[@Jimages_uk]

I am still to buy an EV, but a used model 3 is going to be my choice within the next 6 months. So looking up HEVRA garages near me, and the only one is my favourite garage anyway, and the one I have used for the last 20 years with my ICE cars. That has cheered me up no end.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@Jimages_uk happy days, itll be interesting to see what the prices look like then 🤔

[@tiloalo]

The price is painful, a model 3 long-range with this mileage now goes for around 25k€ in the Netherlands or Germany. I think they are really well price now, especially with the ling tesla garantie on the motor and battery.

[@peterireland4252]

Hi, I am thinking of buying a used Tesla 3 maybe next year but I need to find out if it would be more economical than my 68 plated Ford Focus 1.5 Diesel estate which currently does around 52 mpg

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@peterireland4252 a few factors here. Have you got a drive way and what is your budget for your car?

[@jonathangiles4854]

Is buying part worn tyres a risk though?

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@jonathangiles4854 yes, my last two were new though 😉

[@robertpaterson7311]

Thanks for interesting video. I do make some long range journeys of 280 miles, therefore I would have to stop and charge. How long does it take to charge your car probably after I have done about 150 miles (approx as I appreciate there could be a lot of variables) ? Also do you have any information on what your car could tow (I have a caravan) so would be interested in if your car could tow and what that would do to the mileage range ? Many thanks for any help you can give. Cheers Bob

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@robertpaterson7311 not sure on the towing front. Best to buy a 2021 Long range or Highland Long range for that kind of mileage. Battery check on a used one with Altelium, discount code on a recent vid 😉⚡️💯

[@robertpaterson7311]

@@chargeheadsuk OK many thanks for your reply

[@richardhc76]

Nice work Tim. Some great advice and let us know what you find with the oil change on the drive unit 👍

[@chargeheadsuk]

I have a new focus right now, fitting Ingenext Boost 50, Unplugged performance coilovers, M3P calipers and discs and a partridge rear spoiler 🦃⚡️😉

[@richardhc76]

Ooh nice want to hear more on this 👍

[@dushenepaulusha7210]

Any way to improve the ride quality in the uk? Coil overs, bilstine or KW dampers maybe?

[@chargeheadsuk]

Mountain Pass Performance do comfort coilovers. Based on KW so great quality. 😉

[@skyisthelimit9951]

Thanks for the informative video. Do you recommend buy a used Model Y from the Tesla website or dealers? If you buy from the Tesla site they give an extra 1 year warranty with their certified vehicles. debating which year is good 2022 or 2023 because under 30K miles it's costs around $30k. Thanks

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@skyisthelimit9951 no worries. I personally prefer to buy privately, however I have quite a few years car buying experience. I would say buy on age and condition and worry less about mileage. 👍

[@Itsallagame1984]

great video picking up a model3 lr myself shortly nothing comes close for 20k......Subscribed.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@Itsallagame1984 bargain at that money

[@BenTalksMentalHealth]

My leaf is 2 years old and still has 100% battery. It's charged via a three socket pin though

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@BenTalksMentalHealth nice work! What percentage do you charge to?

[@BenTalksMentalHealth]

@@chargeheadsuk 100% most of the time. Thinking about a 21/22 plate Tesla standard range as they are really good value now. But the Nissan does it's job locally and is even better value

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@BenTalksMentalHealth interesting that even charged to 100% your battery is good

[@BenTalksMentalHealth]

@@chargeheadsuk must be the slow charge

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@BenTalksMentalHealth not from evidence ive seen. All depends on how long it was 100% for i reckon

[@DailyDrivenScotland]

same I out my model 3 LR last year paid 25k and it had 84k miles now done 104,751 Miles and counting getting about 281 Miles to a 100% Charge. Its good for work but I miss my 5.0 Mustang.

[@chargeheadsuk]

Fit the ingenext boost 50, more power and drift mode. My vid coming soon 😉

[@yordanbochev4934]

Great work keep it going just link the videos you refer to down in description so we can navigate them easily

[@PeterLawrence-x6u]

What is the insurance cost of your car over the 40,000 miles compared to the a same value ice car.👍🏻

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@PeterLawrence-x6u i did a video of cost comparison of a cheap Nissan leaf vs Skoda Octavia auto and the cost was very similar.

[@PeterLawrence-x6u]

Sorry but the 2 cas you mentioned would be group 25 max. Your tesla would be in group 48/50, so they are not a good comparison. You were up front about your costs about tyres you go on Ebay, so why not be upfront about your insurance cost. If people are going to change to EV's This is something they need to take into consideration. 👍🏻

[@chargeheadsuk]

@PeterLawrence-x6u happy to share, £700 for the year, from memory 25k a year which includes business miles and about 8 years no claims.

[@MassToOrbit]

How much is the insurance?

[@chargeheadsuk]

I pay £950 for high miles and cover for work miles.

[@MassToOrbit]

@@chargeheadsuk thanks for the response, not too bad. I'm thinking a second hand M3 for the next car. After driving a while in a PHEV you get fed up with the ICE noise when the battery runs out.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@MassToOrbit EV isnt right for everyone, if you have a driveway or access to cheap charging then its a strong arguement to pull the trigger. A Tesla model 3 is a convenient EV to go for 💯

[@VideoGameKillCounts]

My model 3 Performance at 5 years old, 61k miles and just got stung with my first major service bill of £4k as the steering rack needs replacing due to corrosion and thermal damage in the terminals. But other than that it’s been absolutely superb. Though I’m going to upgrade for sure. Great video, appreciate the insights. 👌

[@tiloalo]

Did tesla cover part of the expanse? That's not the kind of expanse you expect on a 5 years old car.

[@incognitoincognito317]

Hey, did tesla covered smth of that price?

[@Knott1701]

Thanks for this, as a M3 owner I'm keen to know where the weakness are to keep an eye on them and head them off at the pass as I'd like to keep it as long as possible. Fitted the factory mud flaps and ppf to protect the front sills, but understand dirt can still get trapped there. They do wear quite well, even comparing the common bits to ICE cars

[@mattx4253]

lol I’ve never had to do any of these repairs at such low miles. The suspension is clearly shit and the paint isn’t great either. Rusting suspension? That’s not good at all

[@Knott1701]

@@mattx4253 Odd, obliviously not a UK driver, I've had to replace major suspension components repeatedly at lower mileage on both my prior Jag s-type (sold at 96K miles, guess what it failed it's MOT on after i sold it :-) ) and my wife's clio (under 80K miles) My wife's car also had a bad rear quarter respray. My M3 paint's been fine, although i went for black as knew the white paint would be hard to color match if a respray was needed

[@mattx4253]

@@Knott1701 ive done 300k in the UK as somoene who lives here. i have never ever once replaced suspension on my BMW and ive done 80k miles on some since 2007.

[@chargeheadsuk]

Glad to help

[@DaleSteel]

I've got an M3... a real BMW M3

[@yurikislytsia8596]

I wonder how much change lowering springs give? Suspension is too hard for my liking and local council roads. Anyone tried koni active special or other brands?

[@chargeheadsuk]

Mountain pass performance comfort coilovers are best.

[@MarkSmith-wc1ek]

Nice work mate I've got Mg4-ev-xpower and i love it £4 for 200 miles beat that ice cars

[@chargeheadsuk]

They are really fast. Had a play in one recently. Brakes sre interesting 😉

[@MarkSmith-wc1ek]

I have found brakes to be ok it is quick and a lot nicer drive than I was expecting got it on a 2 year lease £320 a month 😃

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@MarkSmith-wc1ek bargain 💯

[@rutube007]

Shouldn't you mention the year of model at the start?

[@alfie217]

Fantastic video mate, wonderful honest British content 🎉 I’m so keen to own a Tesla……. I watch with much interest 👍🏼

[@Habs1967]

Why those "rims"? To save on charge? Looks bad imo

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@Habs1967 I'm commited to a white themed car. Form over function

[@leedsleedsleeds1747]

New to your channel and thanks for making such a good video. I will be going electric with my next car but can't decide between a Tesla model 3 or Jaguar I Pace.

[@chargeheadsuk]

From my experience on reliability, efficiency, charging speed, tech etc the Tesla wins every time. I have q7 years main dealer experience and 8 years buying cars which include Tesla and Jaguar ipaces. 😉

[@leedsleedsleeds1747]

@@chargeheadsuk Thanks for the feedback

[@Mexy7777]

Ipace beats the 3 all day long in terms of build quality. I’ve driven both. Getting my ipace delivery tomorrow. I love the tech on Tesla though.

[@leedsleedsleeds1747]

@@Mexy7777 I prefer the I Pace and think it's the better car but the 3 is the better EV

[@tonyrobinson362]

More mileage in the Tesla.

[@lexingtonlad5745]

Class video man I'm driving a 1.4 i20 and I love it I've done 160000 on it, it's a 2013 and I bought it in 2018 I'm done service cars at this stage and am going ev soon, would you recommend a nissan leaf?

[@chargeheadsuk]

Depends on which one, 24kwh battery ok a big no to the 30, 40 ok. But the problem with these EV's are the battery degradation as the batterys have no thermal management AKA cooling. Whats your budget?

[@lexingtonlad5745]

@chargeheadsuk around 18000 euro

[@chargeheadsuk]

@lexingtonlad5745 i'd suggest the kia, Hyundai or MG range. 😉

[@esoghumedominic13]

I'm impressed by this car. Thinking of selling my vw golf r mk6 stage 2 ecu and tcu , and buy m3p used as it will save money and faster 🤔 great video

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@esoghumedominic13 thanks, i've had a couple of Golf R's and S3's and I prefer the Tesla M3 as an alrounder 😉

[@richardwallace2458]

Great info! I would love to get my hands on a second hand model 3, probably realistically in a year or so. Question: how does your take fare in the depths of winter when it's cold, wet and windy? Yes, that could also be summer but you know what I mean. Thanks.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@richardwallace2458 230 miles on motorway at -3

[@blagger42]

Long Range what Kw? Battery? what year manufacture? made in China or USA?

[@chargeheadsuk]

My M3 is a Fremont 2019 Long Range AWD

[@peteraberesford]

Would you recommend owning a Tesla to someone with home charging and therefore reliant on public charging infrastructure?

[@chargeheadsuk]

If you mean without home charging it would depend on your usecase. Daily mileage, commute, and location. Happy to consult for free if you can give me a review afterwards.

[@danpaul4975]

My local Hevra garage closed down 😂 apart from keeping mine standard I'm gonna have to get those wheel caps

[@chargeheadsuk]

💪

[@scottfraser854]

Hi thinking of buying a Tesla Model 3 Long Range as my 1st EV. Could of Questions how much is a home charger to get fitted? I Drive Roughly 450 miles per month is worth me getting a EV?

[@chargeheadsuk]

There are deals on home chargers I saw one for 750 from memory, however it all depends on your house electrics. If you have a night tariff like the Eon drive at 9.5p per Kwh or similar your "fuel" costs will be £14 a month 😉

[@scottfraser854]

@chargeheadsuk I'm with octopus I know they have octopus go!

[@chrishart8548]

I don't think it's worth it only doing 450 miles a month. That means a normal tank of fuel in a ice car would easily last a whole month. I was filling up every week at £100 a time so £450 a month. It's now £132 a month in electric but that's 23p kW rate.

[@aaronbounds1336]

Subjective. What does worth it mean?

[@chrishart8548]

@@aaronbounds1336 I wouldn't choose electric if it was going to cost more money. That's what I meant.

[@mikgsal1384]

Great video thanks. 1.5k in costs over 2 years but you forgot to add depreciation for 2 years which could be 15k? True cost about 8k per year?

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@mikgsal1384 No worries, arguably its only a true depreciation cost once youve sold it. Luckily Tesla M3's depreciate alot less than other EV's and the value has held pretty steady the last 6 months

[@afsar_gunner5271]

great tips indeed - how much do EV price depreciate every year compared to hybrid or petrol cars ?

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@afsar_gunner5271 depends on the brand and model, the Tesla Model 3's are holding steady at the moment based on the benefits and convenience they bring EV driving. There will be a tipping point soon. I say go either petrol or electric, forget hybrids.

[@Manoharan]

Hi Mate, your vides are really helpful. I am thinking of upgrading to EV vehicle and I can wait till May or June next year. I definitely don't want a new one bcz of depreciation. After going through loads of reviews, I found Tesla Model 3 to be reliable second hand cars. If I wait till next year May some more leased cars will be on the sale. My budge is around £15k. Do you think I can get a standard range Model 3 under 60k miles for this price in May?

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@Manoharan thabka for the praise for the content 🙏 its difficult to tell and no ones got a crystal ball. Yes the model 3 is a good used car, however dont worry so much about mileage foxus on the condition and suspension wear. I doubt theyll be down to that money but LFP standard range 2021 onwards would be best.👍

[@tiptoe531]

I’m getting a 22 M3 LR but was considering a 23 LR RWD, dyou think it’s wiser to go for the AWD?

[@chargeheadsuk]

If you car about performance and 4wd get a LR. If you want longevity the LFP battery will last longer 😉

[@wakeywarrior]

The RWD is the best bang for the buck. I wouldn’t worry about the AWD vs RWD issue, I’ve had both and can’t really tell any difference in that respect.

[@RobertBorley]

Great vid. What model year is it? One thing you never mentioned was potential HV battery failure. I’ve had my M3 from new for almost 5 years now. The HV battery failed at 44k miles a few months ago. Tesla replace them under warranty (up to 120k miles or 8 years - whatever is soonest). But only with a refurbished battery. Let me know if you want more details, it’s a whole story. So, I’m wondering if you’ve considered protecting yourself against an HV battery failure out of warranty. The cost of replacement is £18 - £20k and so that is a potential write off for a second hand M3. Something buyers and owners need to be aware of. My M3 is mostly charged at home with minimal use of superchargers. Give this post a thumbs up if you’re considering a second hand M3 and would like to understand more.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@RobertBorley that is a rare case that the battery would fail, but not impossible. Have you done a battery test on yours? Mine is a 2019 sept registered car. Doing a battery test video as i speak with 3 different tests nkw its done 10 k more and at 107k now

[@RobertBorley]

@@chargeheadsuk Yes. Cleevely EV ran a battery test on my refurbished pack. Which is helpful as it’s something Tesla refuse to provide, even while under warranty and replacing the HV battery with a certified refurbished pack. Tesla simply state that a warranty replacement will be with a refurbished pack and “as good or better than the failed pack before it failed”. However they do not provide any metrics or measurements on the failed or replacement pack to back this up. The whole experience with Tesla wasn’t great to say the least. I am pleased Cleevely EV are there with a superb aftermarket service and peace of mind with their battery health check and out of warranty cover. Out of warranty cover for Tesla Model 3 HV packs cost approximately £600 per year but that depends on the battery health at the time the Tesla Warranty ends. Tesla say the HV battery would need to be at

[@RobertBorley]

Let me know if you want any more information for your next video. Happy to provide some real and balanced testimony from someone who has been through an HV failure with Tesla. I’ve had my M3 from new, first registered October 2019.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@RobertBorley this is great infor.ation, thanks Robert. What was the battery health of thr replacement pack? Got a 3 test battery video coming soon 😉

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@RobertBorley what was the mileage?

[@davidjohnbarnard]

Interested in the replacement tyres (part worn) you mentioned can you provide a link?

[@chargeheadsuk]

Just ebay 😉

[@ToxCcc]

@@chargeheadsuk Do you go for part worn but make sure they are premium brand and all 4 are the same?

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@ToxCcc yep

[@MarkJackson-e1k]

Hi Tim is that the same car. That you took four of us the Prodigy gig in Birmingham.? If so that thing's a rocket ship 😊. I was well impressed with the performance and I think they look great and the inside looked quality 👌

[@chargeheadsuk]

Lol yes mate, wow, that was a while ago. That night was epic! And hot AF 🥵🥵🥵

[@MarkJackson-e1k]

It was a wicked night, there were people passing out at the bar.

[@MarkJackson-e1k]

Like the spiter on the front dude. Looks trick 👌

[@chestodor4161]

Where can i buy those hubcaps?

[@chargeheadsuk]

EVquip 😉⚡️💯

[@PropertyAtAuction]

Another great video Tim, keep the Tesla content coming, I'm leaning heavily in that direction 😉

[@chargeheadsuk]

Good to hear, that video ou me tioned before, won't be long

[@mr.getitdone1451]

Would you recommend me buying a used 2021 model y long range with acceleration boost, 20inch rims and tow hitch. Its selling price is 29,933. But it has 60,700 miles . I’m stuck and don’t know what to do. Anything helps thanks 😊

[@chargeheadsuk]

Sounds expensive to me. Email me at [e-mail] and we can find a decent one for you. 👍

[@affieuk]

Interesting to see how little maintenance is required. I am kind of surprised by the regular remarks people have made for years about calling 100k high mileage. I drive an ex taxi E class 65 plate, it's done 226k, in the last 3 years, I've changed the steering wheel clock spring £80 and an exhaust sensor £35, other than that just tyres, part work, 5-6mm £30 each and mot. I can see this atittude has changed recently which the cost of second hand cars going up significantly. Lots of people holding onto their cars for longer

[@chargeheadsuk]

Thats a great innings, what are you hopping it will do? How often do you change the oil every 10 or 20k?

[@affieuk]

@@chargeheadsuk Honestly I'm not bothered so far, must have done about 15k by now. Sadly, my driving has cut down quite a bit. I think I'll change the oil, thanks for the reminder 😁

[@chrishart8548]

I put 207k on a ford transit connect it was still on the original brakes. It got through a few sets of tyres obviously they lasted almost 50k a time. The fronts and rears wore around the same rate. Maybe its the weight being a van. Just got serviced around 20k didn't need anything else not even a sensor.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@chrishart8548 thats impressive on the brakes front

[@chrishart8548]

@@chargeheadsuk I drive so carefully and look way ahead I usually don't have to ever use the brakes

[@DanielHarrisCodes]

Don’t know if you’ll see this but what are your thoughts on 2020 Long Range AWD or 2021 Standard Range Facelift 2021 has the heat pump I believe and the small upgrades. Which would be a better buy if they both has 70K on them and similar price? Which would hold their value longer? The LR AWD would be faster and degradation would maybe impact the max range less because it’s higher to begin with

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@DanielHarrisCodes simply performance and range vs LFP better life less degradation over time and argueably safer battery tech.

[@DanielHarrisCodes]

@@chargeheadsuk I went for a 2020 LR AWD in the end. The extra range will be worth it for me but there's also the performance and safety w/ the AWD. The Type2 to Type2 cable for the car is missing, can you recommend any quality aftermarket ones as I'll probably need one for the slower public charging points at some point

[@Tullyez]

Great video, interesting facts, good to see UK Tesla owner ones. I am a newbie owner and still learning, but looking at rear tints like yours (mine is also white). What level do you have on them? Also what cost should I be looking at? Will be looking at your other videos and they may tell me mate anyway. Oh and I want the power trunk/boot any help that? Soo many questions 😀

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@Tullyez where are you based? There is a video on the channel ref the tints and the price chexk it out. Green drive are good for Tesla mods of quality, or ali ba ba for value.

[@Tullyez]

@@chargeheadsuk I'm in Stoke, just trying to find that vid cheers 👍

[@TheMick2103]

I'm buying my first tesla model 3 long range in March second hand about £25000 I'm a taxi driver in Scotland and I'm finding it hard searching online for a taxi roof sign because of the glass roof my magnetic one is no good 😮

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@TheMick2103 Do you need one on the roof? Is it a must?

[@anderssryanssons]

Great video, how much do you think you could sell it for today?

[@chargeheadsuk]

£15k ish as it has full self drive on it. Its not for sale though

[@brianiswrong]

How much of the self driving is it allowed to do by uk law? My understanding is (happy to be wrong) lots of the cars self drive abilities are turned off by uk law even if fitted by the factory.

[@danpaul4975]

​@@brianiswrongyou're correct. While it's a bit of a bonus buying one that might already have it paid for by a previous owner, it's just not worth it in the UK even at £6800, it's continued to increase in America because it's more useable but I actually don't think the UK will allow it's full capability for a very long while. I believe even the summon feature is also limited to the point of pointlessness!!

[@DJBaldPaul]

Prices are plummeting, i just bought a used MX for 26K, it was 100K+ new.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@DJBaldPaul Great deal that 💯

[@petersimms4982]

Absolutely agree , I’ve owned everything from bmw , Mercedes,Volvo ,Kia,Toyota and the only car that was as reliable was the Volvo! Maybe have a bash with a polestar 😊😊😊

[@chargeheadsuk]

The Polestar is nice, i like the quality. But I'll be stixking to Tesla for now, well until Wedgee is road worthy.

[@DaleSteel]

A polestar isn't a volvo

[@TurboAutist-sg7lo]

Im considering a polestar 2 over the tesla model 3. It will be my first car. Which should i buy?

[@TurboAutist-sg7lo]

@@chargeheadsuki will buy a polestar 2 or a tesla model 3 from 2021. Which would you consider? Mileage will be around the same.

[@Mark-rt6fy]

@@TurboAutist-sg7lo Polestar has better suspension and brakes, but small rear seat legroom and trunk space. Also charges slower, has no access of tesla superchargers. Basically only go that route if you are a driving enthusiast

[@Jarptchow85]

i charge to 60% charge daily with my new highland if i am not going on a road trip which rarely happens.

[@chargeheadsuk]

How are you finding the highland? Is ir LR or SR?

[@chrishart8548]

What do you go down to. My EV doesn't like going below 20%

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@chrishart8548 i try not to go down to 20% but not rigid with it

[@chrishart8548]

@@chargeheadsuk the battery bar on mine goes from green to orange from 20% and below. And the screen keeps telling me to drive to a charger. I've got an enyaq iv80. Best I've had charged is 371m for 100% And 304m for 80% I've only charged to 100% 3 times so far. Done 9552miles so far only home charging.

[@andreasl4507]

I got the tesla 3, 2020, long range. Bought mine 2 years ago. 6500miles and now it is at 8000miles.

[@djemu88]

A very expensive way to do 15 miles a week 😂

[@mikeanthony706]

What's the year, bro?

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@mikeanthony706 2019, registered in the UK sept 19

[@SBanderaB]

cost of ownership starts @6:49

[@chargeheadsuk]

Thanks for highlighting for people

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

I am a Jag Man through and through having first bought a second hand XJ-S V12 5.3 back in 1985. I had a Tesla M3 Standard Range and now a MY Long Range and whilst I wish the likes of Jaguar all the best will in the world - Tesla is not only the best value for money EV, it is the best value for money CAR you can get. I would be interested to know what else you can buy for the same money - 510HP, AWD, 0-60 in under 5 seconds (and it is a big SUV), 300+ miles range. Every possible extra, cheap as chips to run, mature and reliable supercharging network, no servicing or maintenance to speak of, they are the best cars I have owned. But I do have a secret desire to buy a well looked after XK8... for anyone thinking about EV longevity, there are many videos extolling the virtues of both the Model S [430k miles on same battery and motor] and the underappreciated MG5 Estate [200k miles and still more or less new].

[@chargeheadsuk]

My electric TVR has a Jag rear diff, great comment. I 100% agree

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

@@chargeheadsuk Ah the legendary Jag limited slip rear differential - launch control in the 1980s. I out dragged and then out braked a brand-new Mercedes 500 SEC going along Baker Street in the wee small hours.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@JoeMcMorrow-k7e well it was open, then i found a powerlock. I hope the gearing isnt too long, otherwise an upgrade will be needed.

[@nigelgregory7090]

Nice to watch a sensible EV video that's not all hate driven , milk float nonsense 👍🏻

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@nigelgregory7090 we stay clear of any dairy based agendas 😜

[@BeingD2023]

rsymons have a high mileage tesla they use daily i would see what they are doing to there and copy. i would more say if clevelly say its a good idea then it may be. they seem a good company. the paint work after that many miles seems nothing.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@BeingD2023 they do indeed. Its done 115k now. Done quite a few suspension bushes recently other than that going strong 💪

[@TyKix]

surely you cant use full self driving in the UK anyway so im guessing all you are using is standard autopilot.

[@chargeheadsuk]

Full self driving in the UK includes traffic light assist and lane assist. I think it was a £6k option

[@TyKix]

@@chargeheadsuk that’s basically just advanced autopilot, not FSD.

[@TyKix]

@@chargeheadsuk Can’t see FSD it being available here any sooner than 2026.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@TyKix it says full self driving on my Tesla screen 🤷‍♂️

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@TyKix well, luckily i dont have to pay the £6k for it, however not sure the 2019 camera's will be advanced enough, however time will tell

[@michaelggriffiths]

Great video. My Kia E Niro has done the same mileage and still going strong! You need to charge to 100% every so often to keep the battery healthy. I do that at least once every 6 weeks

[@chargeheadsuk]

How much servicing have you done on it?

[@simonpaine2347]

I would also recommend charging at a low amperage, because there's lots of evidence that the faster the charging, the faster the degradation happens. Enjoyed the video. A real natural presentation without loads of bad jumpy edits!

[@ricardo-iw9sq]

So my take on this is the only thing you save on on a high millage ev as in servicing is cam belts and water pump from ice everything else is the same with bushes, but with a well serviced ice car you wont have the range question, if you fill a 2 year old car and a 7 year well serviced car the tank range will be not far off, but with an ev it would depend on how a previous owner has treated and charged the battery and I know 2 people that have 125k and 140k teslas that have had to have new or recon batteries that's out of warranty and have a bill for over 11k, I think more needs to be said about actual state of battery and and more realistic battery life left when joe blogs buys a used high miller ev because some poor sap will be the one that has to replace the battery and then they become uneconomical.

[@chargeheadsuk]

What model's are you friends Tesla's the X or S? I have done battery degradation tests a fews vids ago and will do more as time goes on.

[@ricardo-iw9sq]

@@chargeheadsuk both Ss, the one guy one has free charging for life and tesla said before he brought it it was going to be good for a minimum of 200k miles, as its out of warranty he's got to fork out £11500 for a recon battery, they wouldn't even take it in px, he said its the worst financial decision he's made so unless he puts another battery in its worth a few hundred pounds as he can only drive it less than 30 miles. He was so happy to get it because he drives all over the UK and goes to France and Spain a lot and said it's not going to cost me anything to drive. I know another guy who works round the corner from me and has a porsche taycan and has been back to dealer with charging faults and heater problems, his secretary has an id4 that's got serious gremlins, if I had to choose an ev the it would be between a model Y or the new enyak 85 but all I here is problems people have, so for now I'll stick with me volvo which is a shame as in theroy an ev sounds good ish.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@ricardo-iw9sq there are companies that repair Model S batteries so wouod cost less than 11k. Itll be interesting to see the longevity of the Tesla model 3 and Y battery as I've not of any failing outside warranty yet (120k)

[@suncitybooksgeraldton335]

@@ricardo-iw9sq I have an 11 year old Leaf that has 50-60 km range and had 175 km when new the Tesla should do way better with a well thermally managed battery the Leaf has nothing.

[@tiloalo]

​@chargeheadsuk the degradation doesn't really tell much, no battery died of degradation. The bms dies or one of the cell goes bad, which means that you can either repair it for about 5k (not knowing how long it will last) or change it for 10k.

[@stevedavies6286]

GReat video 1st time wathcing but I'm now seriously going to go get an EV. I've tested alot and there are other I would much prefer over a Tesla (most) hoever I can't buy new and with prioces low specially on the Tesla's as they are more numerous that's what I'll be getting. The question is Model 3 or S. I prefer bigger cars current one is BMW 3 GT. Huge boot love it because its the X-Drive the MPG not so much even though 2.0d. 40mpg best I can get up and down the A1 Mon-Fri. So back to the Question Older S or newere Model 3 Long range Dual Motor. Ta

[@chargeheadsuk]

100% the 3. It has loads of space 😉

[@stevedavies6286]

@@chargeheadsuk Will swap my research to a Model 3, also had a friend who had a 3 now an S 100DL, though its nuts, its for the family with three kids. His comments were Fast (Very stupid fast) can fit the three kids better in the S than the 3 but other than those two points prefers the 3. Thanks

[@NZherewecome]

Love the rims. Imo M3 look awesome slammed on air. And with those rims!!! Do it! 😂

[@chargeheadsuk]

It would look sick, however i habe come across some coilovers at a deal i couldnt refuse. Might consider though if a company offers them 😉

[@TurboAutist-sg7lo]

I CANT DECIDE IF IM GONNA BUY A POLESTAR 2 OR A TESLA MODEL 3 FROM 2021!!!! HELLPP

[@chargeheadsuk]

I would say drive both. My opinion would be Tesla for all the standard reasons, tech, infrastructure and dealer network.

[@TurboAutist-sg7lo]

@@chargeheadsuk i live in the eu though. the infrastructure is not any different.

[@TurboAutist-sg7lo]

@@chargeheadsuk and the dealer network is the same.

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@TurboAutist-sg7lo i'm biased having only driven the Polestar a little bit and owning a Tesla. However i am 100% happy with it

[@RobertBorley]

I have a M3 and my friend has a Polestar2. He and I would say go for a Tesla all day long. It’s considerably better. Especially if it’s a large 2021 M3 with the battery heating and cooling system (something missing from the earlier models.

[@Fidiasz83]

Everything is fine with EVERYONE I d get one but cost of insurance puts me off 😢

[@Fidiasz83]

I ve had a quote cheapest one for Tesla model 3 -80£ a month and my current bmw 330e cost only 40£ a month which is also part electric

[@WilliamLaverick-wo1nb]

Drive like a chauffeur and think ahead and be light on the brakes.

[@jonjoe42]

It will be great if you can reach 300,000 Miles ! 🤞

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@jonjoe42 well Andy a few vids back is at 220k ish

[@DaleSteel]

If I could get a range of 450 to 500 I'd have a electric car. They are great IF you charge at home. If not too expensive.

[@chargeheadsuk]

Very few people need that kind of range

[@Sedge86]

After 20,000kms in my M3 long rangez my average of 152wh/km gives an average range of 480kms. So you can already get that range? Aure drive it hard and itll be worse, hypermile and itll be better...

[@qEnergize]

So you’ve lost like £15K in two years on an already used car? Ouch 😂

[@chargeheadsuk]

I did make over £10k on a day old Skoda Enyaq. So I'm alright, its other people that bought during the Car market bubble, unless they went PCP of course, as they get to hand it back 🤷‍♂️

[@blackbird8632]

Basically any car at that price point bought during/right after covid lost that much.

[@WilliamLaverick-wo1nb]

I have 3/4 of a tank of diesel. Good for 400 miles.

[@jefferrrson1x]

God those wheels are horrendous 😭😭😭

[@aaronbounds1336]

I think they’re rather interesting. I wonder about brake cooling…but then again, does it matter for average driving?

[@caledoniantours220]

Hideous!

[@stevoone342]

Personally I’ll stick with a ice or hybrid. Mainly due to needing decent true 4x4 capability and being in a remote area in the uk, are power network has drop outs especially in winter to the dismay of EV drivers at are nearest charges all but one having to disconnect to individualy charge 😂. And it’s not to uncommon for people to get trapped with there car in winter hear as well. But iraspective EV or ice or other all vehicles need mantanace like bearings springs and more and more often the heavier or abused they get. Same with tyres and brakes. 100k miles isn’t really high mileage maybe if you are use to nearly new / new. Car ice or even EV can last as long as it is well looked after for till the point the owner gives up or doesn’t care for it. I’m a firm believer the best option isn’t for everyone to buy EV,s is to own and run your car for at least 5y + and look after it and maybe learn how to do some basic maintenance tasks as well and build your knowledge of how to look after and budget for some wear items or surprise experience if possible. I’m currently looking for my next long term car and looking at BMW X5 45E witch has a fairly ok hybrid system and BMW age very well and even at high mileage the interior wear is some of the best condition I’ve seen and reliability BMW are know preforming around Toyota scoring. And I like the electric motor runs through the gearbox being up powerd and thru 4x4 system driving equal to ice or EV mode.

[@michaelggriffiths]

I'm an EV driver, I have a Kia E Niro which is epic. I also own a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV which provides the towing I need and 4x4/AWD capability. Im lucky enough to have home charging, so I'm firmly in the EV camp, but I agree that the infrastructure isn't ready yet for everyone to switch. As soon as the UK is ready, we'll be told that EVs are actually running the planet and we have to switch to the next thing (probably hydrogen).. I'm old enough to have been scammed in the great diesel scam of the early 90's: they convinced everyone to buy diesels, offered discounts, lowered the price of diesel compared to petrol, then siffed us big time!

[@enyaq_gorm]

I had a model 3 from 2020 to mid 2021, it was the worst car I've ever had, was back with tesla pretty much every month for repairs. Nothing to do with the fuel source, just the rubbish build quality. Cleevely service my Škoda enyaq too, fantastic service.

[@chargeheadsuk]

Thats a pain, what sort of repairs?

[@enyaq_gorm]

@@chargeheadsuk getting windows fixed so they closed, getting battery cooling system replaced, having 40+ lumps of sand under the paint removed and repainted, having a new bumper fitted etc etc. In the end tesla lost interest and started arguing I'd caused the faults. So I sold it 😥

[@Coyote.five.0]

ignorant people will say anything they heard from another guy or the Internet to make you not buy an ev or they come up with so many excuses that make my brain hurt. i also have driven and have own this car brands : mercedes , lexus , bmw , alfa romeo , toyota , Chevrolet, ford , dodge, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, nissan , just to name a few some of those brands have been making cars for what the past 40 , 50 , 60 , 70 , 80 , 90 years tesla has been making cars only from june 22 2012 to may 28 2024 so thats 12 years give or so , when you get in in one of those cars any car from tesla it feels like hes been doing this for the past 200 years its almost unbelievable but people that hate evs or tesla wouldn't even come close to understanding, and i know you might say well you are a fan boy or get that d***k out of your a** stop being a co***k su****er whatever you want to call it what i did was i gave it a try to electric propulsion and i am a true petrol head so i did love it ❤

[@Alan-xk9rk]

Them white wheels 🤮🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

[@chargeheadsuk]

You love it!

[@Alan-xk9rk]

@ 😆

[@caledoniantours220]

Yuk

[@tullypoo]

Buy a Tesla, show your support for Trump. . . .

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@tullypoo buy a Tesla to support free speech 😉

[@andrzejjesswein7349]

It's funny that you think this is high mileage...

[@chargeheadsuk]

@@andrzejjesswein7349 you may not, its all about perception. 114,000 now 💪

[@andytunnicliffe7223]

Terrible camera work. Hold it still! Making me feel sick

[@chargeheadsuk]

I've now finally got a gimble camera so you can put the sick bag back in the draw 😉