Buying a used snowmobile, DON'T GET RIPPED OFF! PowerModz!

[@oby-1607]

After watching this, I'm scared to buy a sled now.

[@TraceyAllen]

You should be.

[@dustinwiggin9470]

haha same, think I just got talked out of it. Reminds me of dealing with dealership if it is not brand new it needs to be replaced, but then he is like it is good sled. I'm like but you made it sound like needs 4k in work.

[@Carta87Blanca]

@@dustinwiggin9470 my sentiments exactly 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@toddjones9574]

Yeah I think I'm just going to hold off a bit

[@trvman1]

Just go look at the cost a new decent sled and you won't have to worry about the issues her points out in the video. You will walk away because of the COST of the new sled and won't want to take the chance on a used one. Have a friend in upstate NY who spent 14 GRAND on a sled 3 years ago and has hardly been able to use it due to the lack of snow. Get a jet ski or small used boat, there is always water :)

[@ryanvtec3885]

I just buy them cheap and ride them. I'm not looking for perfection. I warm them up before i ride them and i don't ride the shit out of them all the time. I just want to have some fun in this great Canadian winter wonderland!

[@TheGreatBeard]

Greetings from the Sandilands forest in Manitoba :) I'm the same way. I don't need to wreck my sled every time I go out to have fun.

[@nilesable]

Warming them up is so important,people will warm their cars for 20min.,but start their sled and jump right on it at -20 and wonder why it blows to pieces.

[@longboardguy]

Couldn’t say it better myself this is how I feel about sleds. I don’t get out often so I don’t need a crazy sled just something to rip on for winter. I enjoy my quad and sxs a lot more

[@nate7906]

Weird flex but ok

[@Rumblefan]

longboardguy huh. I actually enjoy snowmobiling better, but I still love ripping around in side by sides during the summer.

[@coolbluelights]

talking about "These older machines".... the newest sled I've ever had was a 1989. i'm dirt poor.

[@rileysanville1187]

coolbluelights same I have a fricken 1980 😂 still runs great though, tough as nails

[@codykochan-erdman9620]

We got three sleds. Oldest one is an 89 newest is a 1992. They all run great

[@walkerhipke1127]

My oldest is 89 my newest is 95

[@theblackeyedone5464]

i can beat that got a free snowmobile and it was a 1979 Polaris Gemini old and fun but the hood is smashed to pieces but a good sled

[@MyOldSled]

Nothing wrong with an older sled. :)

[@adventure-cowboy]

Thanks a lot guys, this was super helpful. Some notes for other people: How to pick between brand and models $2.4-4k Ski-doo 2004 800 MXC rev (plain) You’re likely going to spend $1.2-1.4k on repairs and upgraders Skis and carbites, might be flat and need new ones that have an edge. $100ea. Need 2 Ski rubbers on skis: $20 ea. Movement in the ski could be caused by loose rod ends. Lower and upper rodes Shocks: is they’re original they’re likely shot. Are they springy? If they don’t rebound fast they’re old and need to be replaced. None: bracket mounted to the shock, impact can bend it, will effect belts, can blow them. If you can’t get your finger in the tie rod and shock then the non is belt, space should be the same space. Panels on top should have the same fit, if not then bent you have a belt nun. Tie rod boot, rubber boot that keeps snow and moisture out. Exhaust: check if it’s belt from an impact. Motor: is it clean? Belt, is it broken, does it have an extra? $400ea. Maybe $200 after market. Don’t have them warm it up, you want to do it to see if the ignition has any issues. Clutch, is it clean, does it wobble? Motor mounts, is there play? Does it feel secure, are any cracked? Reed boots and reeds - connections on the engine block. Flat metal on bottom, is it bent? Could be caused by impact from rocks underneath Track rollers / idlers, are they loose, do the wheels wobble, then they’re loose or broken bearings. Back shock, how are the mounts, if it’s loose then the mounts might be broken. Track: $600-1.6k - does it have cracks, tears, holes? Seat condition: $160 for cover Sliders, rails that the belt slides on, wears a lot, if you’re taking the suspension out they should be replaced. Coolant levels, if theres black in there could be mixed with other liquids. Chain case: if it’s never been replaced, they’ll need to be. Battery, is it good, $110 replacement battery. Brakes, is there good pressure. Do the cables need to be replaced? Compression for the engine can be found online, 135-145 pressure. Get a compression tester, maybe there’s 2 and they should be equal. Pull the start rope, even if it’s electric, the rope should be inside. Only buy from the owner. Get a picture of them with their license. Miles, how many and how many can is life for? Some need pistons need to replaced after 2.5miles

[@JH-tc3yu]

or buy a yamaha and never worry about any of those things

[@davidbrennan5]

Yamaha went out of business, good luck getting parts. @@JH-tc3yu

[@shawnthomas5557]

i just bought a 94 Ski doo mach z 780 for 500 dollars and it runs and drive!! so happy i got to try it out this week in the snow

[@bryanmiller5424]

I bought a old Kawasaki 440 snowmobile for $475 drove the heck out of it until it blew up

[@scottfirman]

Money pits. I am so glad I got out of snowmobiles a few years ago. I wrenched on them as a hobby and had my own shop. I made plenty of money fixing snowmobiles. I had Cancer and the surgery to remove it ruined me from ever riding again. I am glad now I am out of them. Prices have gotten just plain stupid on them. I am now into RC planes and other RC stuff. I still do small engine repair, but mainly lawn equipment. Snowmobiles were always a money pit but I learned to fix them and turn a dime doing it. I restored many vintage sleds, saving them from the scrapper. I would still be doing it I guess. Good video. I never paid dealer price for any of my sleds or parts. I visited sled bone yards and got after market parts. I told everyone snowmobiles have A lot of high wear items, thats normal. Skags, slides, tracks, idlers , belts, it all adds up eventually. Plan on spending the first season replacing stuff on a used sled. Compression is the MOST IMPORTANT indicator of engine condition. I carriedcmy compression testor with me wherever I went. I could test them on the trail and tell a guy if his engine was gone. Spark plugs are the number one way to tell how a sled runs. If it has new plugs, dont trust it.

[@Rumblefan]

Aren’t all hobbies expensive if you truely put time into them?

[@scottfirman]

@@Rumblefan Time? Yes. Then again time can be invested into anything. If your hobby is fixing broken lawn mowers and reselling them( its what I do) Then you can say the time was well spent and when you sell the lawn mower, it can earn you money. How much time you spent on a hobby shouldn't really count against you. If you said" I spent my time at work saving the company money". Then you just benifitted the company. As far as what you gained from it? Nothing. If that time was wasted and it costs you money, then I guess you can look at it in two ways. Kind of like fishing. If you go fishing and catch none, was that a waste of time, or a better way of spending time than saving your company money you will NEVER see anyways. No Hobbys shouldnt be compaired to work. Apples to oranges. I would rather burn up a few hours fixing a mower than saving the boss money. Some how it just doesnt give me that same warm fuzzy feeling.

[@banshee8989]

You think sleds are bad.... you should see personal watercraft. Ive had a few..... to say the least. If buying used and its over 10 years old...... its worth nothing.

[@scottfirman]

@@banshee8989 I saw, I learned enough about PWC to STAY AWAY. Those and boat motors. Pure headache. Those things have tons of seals to prevent water from getting in Yet they still need air to operate. Yeah right! Boat motors require specialty tools for every brand. You eather make them, or pay for them. Unless you work on them all the time, you spent money that will require you to fix 10 more like it to pay for it. I had different clutch tools for every brand. I sold them all for almost nothing when I got out of it.Technology has pretty much made working on this stuff too expencive. I started out restoring older snowmobiles and worked my way up to the newer models. Eventually I was competing with the dealers to properly fix new snowmobiles because the damn dealers couldnt even fix the manufacters issues. A guy doesnt give a RATS REAR about warrenty when even the dealer cannot fix a factory defect. I used my head and modified things. The guy left my shop happy as hell and I got to rub it in the dealers face .

[@Rumblefan]

banshee8989 oh yeah jet skis seem like a nightmare.

[@foxtrottango8745]

Man I love the intro video it’s great‼️😆 Hello Loui I’m Fred… my wife and I live in Florida and visited Alaska in March of ‘23 … we loved it so much that we plan to move there hopefully by end of this year ‘24? We went on a Snowmobile tour and had a blast! so I’ve been looking at sleds ever since… I’m 61 and a former Small Engine Mechanic however it’s obvious that I have never worked on sleds and have a ton to learn. Your video is a very helpful buying and maintenance guide that I will rewatch again many times. Thank you for your time in making this video. Frederick Tanner 👍😎👍

[@rosshansen1455]

I have a 2019 sled and I'm 14. I work all summer just so I can have fun and rip in the winter. I baby my stuff because I spend a great amount of money I make on it. I'm not reckless. I don't beat the heck out of it. There's a lot of younger people like me who have high performance sleds. Don't assume that just because were young that the sled isn't going to be as good.

[@craigerpc]

I watched an episode on belts, the only reason they put the arrow on the belt is so that if you remove it, and go to place it back on it is so you know which way to put it back on. A drive belt is equal either direction per the belt company.

[@Talisman-tb6vw]

thats why I like the really old machines (late 60's to mid 70's), simple, fairly robust and easy to fix. No, they won't jump a 30' canyon, but they'll get you to where you want to go and back. Carry a spare belt or 2, a screwdriver, and a carb kit. :)

[@vfam5860]

Thanks for the information. I'm a vintage guy with older snowmobiles, pre 2004 sleds. I'm starting to like the way the older sleds were designed - simple designs and low budget DIY sleds. But, eventually I'm going to have to buy the newer sleds, and it seems scary to think of the kind of money and time required to fix up the newer sleds. The best bet is to avoid the trashed out sleds with the hidden issues. I agree, wait for the good deals and check the sleds out good first - all great suggestions!

[@Hellsong89]

Yeah, well the -91 doo sled i bought for 50€ had 8K km and well known history. Old, little driven, but maintenance was lacking as well, but nothing expensive so it probably will last what i'm driving it on my life time. Its sad that quality had dropped so much over the couple decades. Then again making your own simple sled is made pretty easy these days if you are not going anywhere that tough. Trashed out sled is not big issue, long as the price is right.

[@aussieas.9296]

I live in Queensland, Australia. I’ve never even seen a snow mobile yet I’ve already watched four episodes 🍻

[@dominicoconner1973]

you need to plan a vacation where you can stay & rent a sled you will be hooked.

[@PowerModzOfficial]

Come to canada and lets go for a rip!

[@glenholmgren1218]

Newest Honorary Canadian, Right There! Welcome, Brother

[@christianlevesque2091]

Good thing i came across this video, i almost both a 2003 zrt 600 for $800,i couldn't test it because the track got stuck in the track, i tought ok no big deal for the price cause he was strap for cash but after viewing this im like hum.. yea i would of bean way over my head in repair. You saved me having a big headache with that sled because im trying to get my first sled, i had no clue they require lots of maintenance :( i will keep looking at your vids for guidance.

[@UpInSmoke54]

One advise that I will give to anyone who wants to buy a used snowmobile, buy the cheapest you can get for your area (price depends on area you live), I don't mean to buy the crappiest snowmobile out there but for the same overall condition buy the cheapest, I've seen too many customers buying sled or ATV's and they bought the most expensive one they saw because it looked pretty and the owner told them it was in excellent condition, but it was a piece of crap, and never trust the seller!

[@kenhotaling7050]

Another area to look at: check online companies to see if parts are still available for the year/make/model you're looking to buy!

[@toobglued]

After all these years I finally get it why people who ride on long trips extended days always have the newest machines within a few years. If your riding an older machine that has not been maintained, a breakdown will REALLY piss off the guys you're riding with and you've wasted lots of money for nothing, they you have to rent a fan cooled slow ass machine and spend money on that and spend money on fixing your old junk. I stopped going on weekend rides anymore and financing 10-13 grand is not my priority at the moment.

[@CraigArndt]

My son and I bought two 2006 Ski Doo gsx 500 ss's the past few months. Mine 4800 miles, my son's 1600. This was a super helpful video. Owner of my sled was firm on price, then I noticed the runners were completely gone and battery was low. Took $200 off because the runners were non existent. I wouldn't have known to ask. My son's sled was original owner with only 1600 miles, the carb boots were torn. I got him $300 off the price for that one. Both are in super condition, but I still put $500 into mine just for things I wanted, new belts, bearings, tunnel bag, oil case change, adds up. This video was spot on.

[@lusurama5080]

«Do your research online» YOU ARE MY ONLINE

[@januszj.8547]

Buy from the older fellow .... try to avoid one with 18 years old grandson.

[@codyroger9581]

I definitely like all the videos you put out and appreciate all the hard work you guys do. That being said a lot of what you point out to be wrong with the machine can just be wear and tear from age and usage. It’s why a used machine is $2500. If everything was in perfect condition then it would be much more expensive. I don’t mean to criticize because I know the intent of the video, I’m just saying in that price point these are the things your going to find. And not a deduction in actual value. Keep up the good work guys

[@dominicoconner1973]

You should look at the tool kit as well make sure everything is there. I also take a look inside the air box to see if there is anything laying in the bottom.

[@Raven4122]

thank you! you just reminded me of the HEADACHES of having a sled! LOL! I sold mine YEARS ago and almost pulled the trigger on one lol thanks again I will stick to snowboarding skiing and my ATV..

[@noahranker4133]

Raven4122 you are a sad thing

[@noblsht]

atv's suck for various reasons

[@noahranker4133]

noblsht no just no

[@ashleymcquade5848]

This is amazing. I made a checklist note in my phone to take with me as I look at used sleds based off this video. Thank you!

[@PowerModzOfficial]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rb-fc8tf]

Please tell me that the jet engine he has on the shelf in the background is going on a sled

[@bushcraftnorthof6012]

r b wondered what that was doing there.

[@jacobpoucher]

that things huge i bet its 1000hp no way its going in a sled. it looks old also with individual combustor cans not a annular combustion chamber. my guess is 1950's

[@ajmahala6652]

Rip to the driver

[@mitchschwab2253]

I'm about to buy an 04 rmk 800 for 900 bucks - it has been sitting in a trailer for years, under 1000 miles. Awesome "barn find" if you will. This video was very helpful. Thanks!

[@shanesimpson5982]

Just bought a 03 mxz rev 600 with a new rebuilt engine from a doo dealer in the kawartha area all the paperwork to back it 12,000km on the body but watching this really helped me with everything else I think this video helped me get a good clean sled for its age almost 18 years later im just leary ive heard odometer issues with these sleds

[@matthewsmith-kw7sk]

I just traded my mini bike for a 1998 articat panther snowmobile with an upgraded motor from a 550 to a 580 it's my first snowmobile. And now I watched this video and I could've checked it all but I had to go to work that morning so I just did the trade and he said I have to pour gas down the spark plug hole I did that it will run for 15 seconds and I Rev it up and a few seconds later it shuts down even at half throttle the sled didn't want to move I got it to move 20 feet 1 time what could be the reason it doesn't want to run or move?

[@Paisteboy]

Don't forget that with a beaver delete kit you need to replace the heat exchanger with one from 2004 or the sled will overheat. The beavertail was only on the original 2003 rev and was integral in cooling the sled. When the beavertail is removed, the original heat exchanger is too short and will not cool the sled properly.

[@rainbowsixlife7104]

Really someone I know rides his hard and never overheated ones

[@tanner9819]

that's not entirely true if you have a proper snow flap it will assist in throwing snow up onto the heat exchanger and you can avoid an overheating problem

[@kwmiked]

On a 800 yes, 600 with good snow, it wont be a problem. 800s 06 say overheat so easily, first thing in morning when rock solid. They need scratchers

[@Paisteboy]

@@kwmiked That makes sense.

[@kwmiked]

@@Paisteboy we have 2 03s and 2 06s both 600 /800 in the 2 different yrs

[@bradwillett5096]

You should do a what to look for when buying a used iqr or even a used race sled!!

[@gallupcustomknives2293]

Send me that rear shock. I’ll ream it out and sleeve it, put in new bushings, it’ll be ready to put another 2000 miles down the trail!

[@dustinpollard6237]

Looking at a 1990 Arctic Cat Jag 440 Deluxe tomorrow, a guy over my age (40s) is selling it for his dad who doesn't use the net, they're local farmers . It has 1600 miles and kept inside. I don't know if they're the original owners, but if they are, I guess I'm out 800 bucks and i'll own my first snowmobile or snow machine. I'm a biker turned vintage garden tractor guy, I always wanted to find an old Bolens machine to match my tractor, but I think with this, the next winter will be the best ever.

[@RustyWeldCustoms]

Goddamn best review on how to buy yourself a snowmobile. I haven't seen more detailed ones, very useful.

[@theadventuresofshellyandfr5618]

Curse God. Then go ride in the beautiful mountains he made. Good luck brother.

[@garr421]

I know in MN, if it hasn't been registered in over 7 years, you can file for registration as a barn find and get it in your name. That is if the guy doesn't have paperwork and it has old tags. Will need a bill of sale. I always get barn finds, such fun restorations.

[@Erated78]

Amazing video! I Learned lots Louie - even for older 2-smoke sleds the same mechanical principals apply. Really appreciated this vid brother. Cheers...oh, and let it friggin' snow! LOL

[@dinos8557]

Looking at a damaged sled. Don't know if I want to dig into a total rebuild but If compression is good and nun is not needing replacement you have inspired me to have at it.

[@AbesShenanigans]

I just got a 2004 rev 800 and I wish I would've watched this before. Still this was very helpful, thanks for the info

[@Gen01Lee]

Nice third gen!

[@yteka99]

I bought a cheap rev 600sdi in July as my first sled, this video has me in the garage checking all kinds of things I didn't know to check lol A lot more in depth than the other videos I've seen.

[@chrisshirey5772]

How’s the sdi 600 running?

[@eckeldave]

Hilarious: "what you really want to make sure is that they haven't done " Love your vids, man!

[@Speeddemon3]

Ok, 10,000 points for having a jet engine in your shop!!

[@jlucasound]

@25:56 I don't mean to put words in Louise's mouth but he meant "Sit Tight" and/or "Hang Tight". I think. :-) Great advise Louis. You know your Snowmobiles. Thanks for all your projects and input.

[@Thumper68]

Had a 2006 ski-doo summit x highmark 1000 162” that was amazing and a beast power for days. Would gladly have another

[@PowerModzOfficial]

Great old sled

[@trevorjeske8558]

I have a 98 Mach z and I don’t think it’s old at all I love it

[@danholmes6095]

Got a 99 Summit 670 and a 2003 Summit 800 Adrenaline , both great sleds and run awesome

[@TrakSpock1]

Don't buy a Ski-doo with isoflex crank bearings.

[@Captndarty]

A wonderful video summarizing why you should not do drugs, stay in school, get a good job and buy brand new!

[@Rumblefan]

You gotta start somewhere though. Teens and young adults still in school or just starting their career most likely can’t afford to spend over $10k on just a snowmobile alone.

[@AllajchaSibir]

When I see a clean engine like that I'm kinda partial to thinking someone is trying to hide something by cleaning it.

[@pauldionne2884]

The head looks brand new.

[@glenholmgren1218]

Yeah - that's only going to go one of two possible ways ... either Really Good or Really, REALLY, BAD!

[@bradymxr4659]

Ya I just got seriously ripped off from 4 seasons Powersports in Richfield Wisconsin!!!! They said everything was gone through and ready to go. It is a 2015 800 etec... I don’t know much but found the front skid shock spring completely broke, the rear shock blown and no coolant in the reservoir. So called him up and he said well I could bring it back and he’d look at it but I’m 2 and half hours away so I asked if I take it to a near by dealer would you take care of it he said just have them contact him he’d take care of it. But until they found a lot more... brake were gone, rear shock the 2 bars that are on the side were really bent, clutch should be rebuilt, missing manifold screw, front lower arm really bent and tie rod, cracked spark plug, spring retainer bent. So called him up after hearing all that and asked if I could just bring it back and just get my money back and he could fix it and sell to someone else seeing so many ppl liked the sled and he said no plus all he was willing to fix was the spring that was broke, spark plugs, and brake pads.! The ski doo dealer I took it too said the chassis could be bent but can’t really tell till I get a new lower control arm! Also I forgot to mention the place I bought also said and advertised the motor being rebuilt and had 200 miles on it and said he would have the paperwork for me like I asked for but when I got there he said he couldn’t find it but would email me them. He never did I’ve asked numerous times. So anyway I contacted a lawyer and explained the whole thing so that’s what I’m doing now is taking him to court. He also has a add on Facebook marketplace saying if anyone has used sleds he will give you fair CASH price cause he wants to keep inventory up. Yet wouldn’t take my sled back!! That I just bought and can’t ride because no snow and broke not gone through like I was told. Lawyer told me to call Federal Trade Commission.. also called consumer protection agency..

[@cobwebism]

Bluebook has Snowmobile trade-in and retail prices for models brand new down to the year 1998. That's a great place to figure out a price of a sled, ATV, Motorcycle ,etc

[@scottfirman]

Go by condition, not blue book. A badly beat up worn out sled is a parts sled, blue book wont tell you that.

[@cobwebism]

@@scottfirman Well yeah, a sled that looks beat is beat but A sled that's in good shape but 10 years old still has a top price you really shouldn't go over. Bluebook can be used kinda like a measuring stick. You wouldn't pay 2500 for a 01 Zr600 with 4K miles on it so you can look at bluebooks price and figure out where the number should be to be fair and subtract anything you see unfit. (tracks rotted/missing lugs, needs head gasket, needs pull cord or battery, ect)

[@markgamble8377]

Have same sled. Did the finger thing by a frame.its not quite off as far as urs.hopeing can just ride it .not going to be jumping it.on purpose.lol. bought couple years ago.didnt know about nun.its a snotty little sled. I know engine smoothes out 35-40 mph on trail riding. 3500 miles.dont ride lots.put 3 gallon extra spare gas can on the beaver delete i put on it.changed gear case oil. Only thing had to do was ring gear and starter. Bougt aftermarket starter was mistake.got one frim skidoo.works good. Goina look at things u pointed out.thanks

[@TheRedpete379]

when looking at a sled I would be at the house where the sled is and then call that way you know he did not start it

[@jasonbickford4283]

This doesn't really relate to this video but maybe at some point. if you haven't in the past could you talk about fresh reeds vs pooped out reeds and the possible throttle response difference? I am very curious on what your actual take is on this issue. Thank you! Also love your videos they are very informational

[@heavysnow8616]

The purpose of the video was to show what to look for, how to check some components, and giving ball park prices of parts required. If you use the methods and information he gave in the video you become an informed buyer. You also have to consider repair costs if your not handy. Obviously with the inspection done, shape of the sled, I would run from it-fast and far.

[@PowerModzOfficial]

michael gets it!

[@robert5]

I totally agree but there should have been a follow up video about how to check compression, it is easy but if your not a gear head, you think it is brain surgery. Here is a link to a 10 yr old video he did about how to check compression. Should put a link to this in the top part of the description. >> kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZysYqSajZyVb7c

[@jackfrost8854]

Good advice on buying used sleds,but one more thing to add "has it been sunk into a river,lake,or worse,salt water?".

[@lesliewood3616]

My first sled was and still is a 1968 evinrude skeeter 16 horse power in its hay days. I use them for fun and to hall the biggest otter sled ever made full of firewood mostly oak. Very little work to keep them running. Just got the seats recovered . Also have a 2 year old viper and new xt7000 cat. I prodably dont need more but l like fixing classics .

[@tanners3391]

I love how your complaining about these older sleds but my friend blew a built on a 2017 ski doo the other day and so did another.

[@shawnthomas6782]

Definitely a sled I’m always looking for in PA and a great video helps a lot when I’m going to look at used sleds

[@780tunertube7]

I recently got a 96 550 arctic cat cougar mountain cat, picked it up for 700$ but I spent over 700$ into in trying to get it ready for the season. Love your content Loui! Keep it up

[@johnnyp.2247]

You think that's bad? I bought a 1995 Vmax 600 DX, running and riding for $400 in the summer. I took it to our friendly backyard mechanic and he just kept finding stupid little details to fix and I just said do what you have to... $400 in the rear skid bushings alone, $350 track, new strut tower canisters at $160. Long story short I had about $2200 invested in a sled that I bought for $400. It was mint but it was just an old Vmax. I learned my lesson on not fixing every little detail.

[@AustinMBecker]

In my opinion, just stay away from older 800's. Most of the 500's, 600's, and 700's were pretty decent. Some snowmobiles are much more reliable than others. Like an older Indy 500, super reliable :) By the way, the ZX chassis is still pretty new to some people like myself. I love 90's and early 00's sleds.

[@kevinrundle3167]

It seems that the bigger cc sleds are just beaten and prone to engine problems. I am enjoying riding an Indy 440 now. Great trail machine. Used to think I needed a big sled, but for the trails the Indy is perfect and reliable

[@AustinMBecker]

@@kevinrundle3167 100 percent agree. Some of the bigger sleds get abused so bad, the smaller sleds are lighter, more agile, and many are very reliable... The Indy 440 is a great machine for the trails.

[@Rumblefan]

Ski-Doo 670 was a solid reliable and fast sled for me. It would start first pull every time, never really gave me any issues, and it was a snappy sled. I only sold it to get something newer.

[@markgamble8377]

Bought that same sled 2003 model two years ago.learned some things .went over mine as u did video.all good except the nun issue. 1/4 inch difference in the doors .and A frame to spring 1/16 to almost 1/8 difference. Dosent have the rear delete.wish did.could cary extra gas. Its got 3200 mi on it. Runs good. Thanks for the info.

[@jordanhemminger7668]

I bought my polaris xc 700 for $1200, changed the skis, BEAT ON IT , for 7 months a year for two years, went through 3 belts THATS IT! I jumped it, rolled it, landed hard, and that machine is still fucking running , WARM YOUR MACHINES, MAINTAIN THEM! AND REGULARLY CHECK YOHR OIL! It’s SOOO easy to keep your sled in good condition it’s when you get lazy you get problems.. if you don’t got money to fix it.. wait to ride it so your not spending even more money you can’t afford

[@krazykenstv9780]

If rear suspension is painted check for cracked slide arm. I had that happen to me

[@Roberto7474001]

Super helpful! I wanna buy another snowmobile to take my buddy out on the weekends and I was gonna buy the cheapest arctic f6/f7 i could but i think im gonna spend a few extra thousand and get a newer solid sled than one thats been jumping for the past 15 years for only 1800 bucks lol

[@taxus812]

Thank you for the tips. My son is having fun wrenching on an old sled. I expect he will pay more to get it going than what he paid for it (which wasn't much). Wrenching and hunting for used parts to him is half the fun it seems. However I think if the skis don't fall off and it kinda moves forwardish he would be happy. Me however ? I think I would hit the dealer after seeing this.

[@PowerModzOfficial]

lol.

[@robertbackstrom7939]

You should mention: buying a used brp 800, prepare to dissasemble the motor, measure the crankshaft, switch out worn bearrings, apply new lubricant... (if there isn't a reciept that it has been fixed within 300 miles...

[@rudysimmonds3252]

Lots of great ideas, thanks.I'll keep that in mind.

[@randomrcprojects3754]

I got a free Polaris Indy 600 ran good then we noticed a lot of scuffing on one cylinder and took it apart and there was a lot of play in a connecting rod so we bought a 650 engine for 75 US dollars now she rips

[@phoenixarizona8441]

Sweet how the skidoo opens up like my Yamaha exciter 570

[@my1little2pony]

Bought a sled once that did a lot of trail riding had a grooved spot on both the primary and secondary cluch from just maintaining a single speed for so long always hesitated every time the belt passed it

[@silsend69]

i have an 06 rev 800 and it is in mint condition because the dude who had it before us only rode trails and never went to fast so the thing was mint until the motor blew and now we spent 1500$ for a new motor because we didn't check the motor when buying. ALWAYS CHECK THE ENGINE BEFORE YOU BUY!

[@Ronathon02]

I wouldn't pay more than 1500 for that. This really made me realize to take a deeper look before buying a sled

[@AH-ok7lk]

You shuld check the framerails behind the primary cluch and exhaust. They are always bent

[@Dragunov302]

Alright. I watched this video first before buying a 03 rev 600 for 1650 with 6800 miles. Gave it the shake down (should’ve wrote everything down honestly) body panels looked great, lined up pretty evenly. The nun wasn’t perfect but it was damn close via finger check. Compression was 125 on each that was my only concern. Track looked fine, bogies, clutches, motor mounts. Hope I did the right thing. Get to ride it tomorrow to see how it actually works. Seems back asswards but it is what it is

[@BcDirtscooter]

I just got a 03 rev 800 h.o for $400 has the fox floats mbrp can and Munster bar risers runs really good and is in decent shape

[@mike300406]

bought a Yamaha triple 700cc for 3 grand 4 year's ago havnt done nothing to it maybe changed sparkplugs and a belt preventive stuff its been great had to sell it this year got 2500 for it didn't want to but not enough snow

[@rodirby5952]

do u want another one? I have a 97 with PSI triple pipes and Hartman Deep Sno Kit for sale---$1100.

[@CarlosC77]

I have 10,000 Hrs on my 2000 MXZ 500 and never rebuilt it myself but did get it used and put over 5k hours on it.

[@merc340sr]

400$ for a drive belt!?! Holy shit! Times have changed since I owned a sled c. 1975. Snowmobiles have become so complex. A lot of things to check!

[@SuperPsychoDave]

I would say that the Fox Float would not lose any charge with a chip in the coating as you say. I'm no shock expert but as far as I know the seal is at the end of the brownish smaller tube and seals out to the bigger black tube. The seal you are pointing to is only a dust seal.

[@jorda.2412]

Wiper

[@PowerModzOfficial]

yes its a wiper seal...we've dented them and lost charge, chipped them and lost pressure over time.

[@jorda.2412]

@@PowerModzOfficial A naturally worn wiper will just allow more dust/ water, or mud if you will. That wears the actual seal. Premature but over longer period. An impact enough to chip or dent a wiper, gaurenteed it will deform actual seal. And a poor wiper that's subjected to say...freezing water...will pooch a seal. Wipers hold zero pressure on cylinder...just cleaners. But good indicators on overall cyl health. As you stated a ding on cyl shaft allows pressure to escape every time it goes by Good chanel. Kinda like buddy next door

[@wadechubb6365]

Mostly minor problem regular maintenance really. I would have checked the primary and secondary a little better thou .. Everything else I agree 100% great video man.

[@tackdriverCA]

This guy is good. True Canadian

[@cannondaletwentyseven1643]

Nice vid good tips. Nicks on main body of Float do not cause air leaks though. Air seal is on shaft bearing cap inside. Outer seal on airsleeve is mostly a scraper and Moisture seal.

[@downsouth701]

Damn change all dem parts u better off buying a new machine

[@glenerickson358]

With all the wear and damage I would not buy that sled.

[@scottfirman]

Have you seen the prices? I dont think so.

[@bushcraftnorthof6012]

That’s my plan next time. It’s true, people don’t usually sell good sleds.

[@Rumblefan]

Bushcraft North of 60 unless it’s a person who wants to upgrade or someone who buys a new one every certain amount of years.

[@glenholmgren1218]

@@glenerickson358 Yeah, oooOR, you tell the seller why you're offering way less than he's asking. :-)

[@ontariosfinest8971]

That thing's worth $4000 now in the covid era. Those 800's are the reason BRP stands for Bearings, Rings and Pistons.

[@TheGreatBeard]

What people do all the time around here is put new after market pistons in to get sled running just to sell them. NEVER put in after market pistons as they don't last and can destroy your machine.

[@PowerModzOfficial]

aftermarket are fine thats all I use!

[@delvinfranklin3891]

Awesome video, thank you so much. I now know what to look for when I buy my skidoo tomorrow,

[@nfldshorty21]

My sled is a 2003 mxz 380 f only owned and driven by me. Bought when I was 13. Drove with my 80 year old Grandpa in the trails with his sled. Do you think I will need to replace a bunch of parts like this before taking it on the trail? It’s been sitting for almost ten years. Replaced the gas lines and filters cleaned it up. Runs like a champ. Has 2000 miles on it. Looks clean but I’m no expert

[@scottd8555]

I bought a 2009 Polaris iq600 this past summer for $1900 it's not perfect. Been rebuilt. I measured the control arms to the shocks and all that checked out. The guy already had a newer sled to replace it.

[@jamesrinaldo2602]

Wow thank you so much for putting this on here I’ve learned a lot just in half of the video. I’m 30 years old but I’ve only had two sleds in my life grew up riding but never had the money to really get one I have no idea really had to work on one I’m familiar with cars so I’m sure I could do it once I got going but I just don’t know a lot very informational

[@grantimusmccarthy9016]

Earned a sub,very thorough guy.i like it.keep us informed and protected from RIP off buys.

[@randykroells8049]

All the sleds from young men are beat to hell.

[@samarmstrong4328]

Not from me lmao

[@Transphoenixbiker]

Well duh cuz we young and dumb and its fun

[@whitegoodman7465]

We aint into trail riding at 50kmh through the twisties for 6 hours, booooring.

[@freestylegamer8]

Been riding for 4 years now, and even still this video was very informative, great job guys!

[@tehsnipatres208]

Couldn’t decide if I wanted to buy one brand new or used. After watching this, I think I’ll go brand new lol.

[@zzzubmno2755]

my son is in the market for a sled and i told him to be careful, he could lose his shirt paying to fix things. this is all great advice, ill send him the link to the vid. no one sells a perfectly working sled.

[@dustinpollard6237]

Why pay? Teach him to do it

[@zzzubmno2755]

@@dustinpollard6237 still have to pay for parts

[@JackJackKcajify]

good advice mate. especially the part about checking if the sleds actually owned by the guy ur talking to. Most will think this is cynical, but in life you gotta protect your interests, its nothing personal. Lots of scummers out there.

[@bradwillett5096]

My first sled was a 04 mxz 600 sdi with 440x suspension all around got it in June 2016 I think and lasted till mid march 2017 ended up catching on fire as I was driving it on my street didn't know it was on fire till I parked it and took my gear off not even 2 minutes after parking it and came out to flames shooting out the headlights and right side panel, long story short it burn down in my driveway lol fuck I'll stick with my 89 250 tundra for now haha

[@karlclements7642]

Check the skid rails for cracks. Sometimes its hard to see them.

[@clockworkbike]

Great video, really helps a new buyer. Say, you should get that jet engine into a sled!

[@johnnyshd8250]

Buying a used two stroke can always be a risk.

[@newscooler12316]

if it runs and drives its all great for me lol

[@jocko8136]

Well, I thought I wanted a sled LOL, FML!

[@ClumsyToast]

Seriously, makes me super nervous! Even about the sleds I'm fixing that I picked up for like $500 lol

[@dustinwiggin9470]

Yep I need video that is how to tell between cheap sled and pile of burning garbage sled. Not aiming for perfection something that wont get me stranded in the woods. :)

[@cross7776]

Finally snowmobile season