Buying Shady Model Trains on Etsy - Episode 2 - An Unusual Haul

[@CounterCraftYT]

The loco and rolling stock are by fleischmann. They however did make their suff in 1:80 at these times (with 1:87 weels)

[@theshoeman7044]

Two nice purchases. The little German train is quite nice. With all-metal box cars! After a little SMT maintenance magic that little loco will be racing around the layout with its train in tow! Always fun videos. Thanks.

[@1ofa9tv85]

I believe most Fleischmann locos are diecast, and two words of warning: The flanges on these older European made models are way big for the scale, designed to take really tight corners as European layouts are much smaller usually, and may catch on code 83/turnouts(learned from experience), also be careful with the gears as older Fleischmann units have exposed gears and will pick up any debris

[@al7857]

They are all from Fleischmann but the wagons are not made out of diecast there are metall weights inside of it

[@MMRails]

I really like this series. I think it’s great how you film your shopping experience and boom, open the parcel.

[@WC3fanatic997]

"Lets look up some Sketchy trains!" *Literally the first thing he clicks has "STD" in the title* I'm all for this kinda stuff

[@JBofBrisbane]

"Subscriber Trunk Dialling" - well, that's what it meant when I was a lad...

[@PapaMav]

@@JBofBrisbane and what are you now? A lassie?

[@ivovanzon164]

That small locomotive is an early 60's Fleischmann, identifiable by the notch on the couplers and the brown bakelite wheels. For repair instructions, the catalog number is 1325 for your variant, but these are the same as a 1320. Take caution, there is usually a large rf supression coil inside these that is covered with lacquer which disintegrates when touched. The wagons and locomotive are probably from the same set, bought in Europe (these were also sold in the US with NMRA couplers) Be sure to store the wheels somewhere safe if you plan to replace them, as they increase the value for collectors.

[@cnwproductions]

finally a sequel to the internets greatest internet series

[@Uptownloki47]

SMT: “The shadier the train the better!”

[@nordisk1874]

After Islanders hockey is over great video love when old trains work out of the box!

[@ATDCC_Colby]

I like how I’m watching it while running an engine I bought in a shady lot

[@frankishknight1878]

That is a vintage Fleischmann German tank engine loco! 😄

[@nightisright1873]

Would that be based off the Lionel train car from the 50s and 60s

[@JBofBrisbane]

@@nightisright1873 no, Fleischmann based their models on the prototype.

[@MichaelEsPunkt]

Interesting, the small BR 80 is one of my favorite steam locomotives, somewhere I still have an old one from Märklin in my closet.

[@modelrailpreservation]

Fleishmann made stuff for the US in the 1950s, I think into the 1960s. Your tank engine is a German design, I think a BR80 type. Fleishmann removed buffers and installed different couplers for the US market. They also made Santa Fe Hi-Level cars and an ALCO FA diesel, which even had wire mesh grills on the sides, a very nice and unusal feature for the era. I once found a Fleishmann industrial switcher at an antique mall for five bucks. Well, they called it an industrial switcher for the US market, but it is really a German light yard switcher, one built by Orenstein and Koppel in real life, the model even has the O&K logo molded on. Four wheel loco, only two wheels powered. As I also have a European layout where I can run my German and British stuff, it was a great find for me. Flesihmann also made a four wheel Bobber caboose that is very similar in appearance to the Mantua/Tyco ones. Cleaned up the Fleishmann stuff can be respectable runners.

[@joezuccardo3245]

Hello Harrison, The loco and cars are made by Fleischmann in Germany and have been around for long time, the set you have is from the late 50s-to early 60s they have large well flanges that will run on code 100 track but will be bumping the ties on code 83 track. Thanks

[@Uboat65]

Highly recommend the GG1 even for the price! That was a very highly sought one, the first GG1 model and it can even be powered from the pantograph

[@hedgehog3180]

That Fleischmann locomotive you found is a DRG Class 80 it was basically the standard locomotive for European/German starter sets for like most of the 20th century and it's really only recently that manufacturers have started moving away from it and using different locomotives and you can still get some starter sets with it. The one you have is almost definitely from one such starter set from probably a couple of decades ago (Fleischmann almost only make N scale now) and it's super common to find it used on listings in Europe. Roco makes a modern version of that locomotive for 90 Euro and Piko makes what looks like an 0-4-0 version of it that I can't figure out what the prototype for is for basically the same price of what you brought yours for.

[@casstelles]

Here's a good tip on buying Athearn engines to see if it is powered or a dummy. The wheels are usually a dead give away on powered versus dummy. Powered engines normally have metal wheels and the dummies normally use plastic wheels. Another trick when viewing the bottom side of Athearn locos in photos will be the holes for the motor mounts. If they are plugged, the unit should be powered with a motor. Of course, the holes for the motor mounts will be empty on a dummy. Also, on occasions and certain units, the flywheels can be seen which indicate a powered unit.

[@SMTMainline]

I would have know if they had shown the bottom of the loco but they never did so I had no way to tell.

[@Chaos42666]

Fleishman is good stuff when you can find it that hasn't been bashed to heck, but it's really common to see them with busted trucks, seems like they tend to get some rougher treatment because folks assume they can take it just because they're mostly metal, the motors are usually similar to old Tyco motors but a fair touch more reliable in my personal experience

[@JBofBrisbane]

I generally find that if they've been taken care of and not run into the ground, the older Fleischmann locos run like precision instruments, smoothly and quietly.

[@normanmallar6634]

Back in 2012, i bought some freight cars from Etsy, an Illinois Central boxcar by Tyco, and a Penn Central Plug door boxcar by Bachmann, they were fair priced, and in original boxes in great condition.

[@kevinjennerproductions2024]

And now we wait for Buying Shady Model Trains Off Etsy Episode 3: The Real Slim Shady...

[@mercuryoak2]

You know after reading this comment I was thinking of Harrison doing the rap of Eminem I'm the slim shady but adding his rendition with putting buying trains etc into it. Lol

[@varrunningtrains4112]

German stuff is ALWAYS bulletproof. Marklin and Flieschmann are excellently built

[@thesierrastandard7281]

8:19 I just realized they probably colored over the UP symbol for copyright reasons lol

[@SMTMainline]

Probably so. Unless it's some short line but I find that less likely since there is no branding what so ever.

[@thesierrastandard7281]

@@SMTMainline You can also see the color difference in the yellow if you look really closely, still a cool piece nonetheless but it seems kinda useless since UP isn't going to sue a small art-seller lol

[@thegreatdh]

That CN locomotive would look great in some multi loco lashups

[@mercuryoak2]

Buying shady trains is accurate because you dont know what works or don't lol. I'm glad you found something worthy thats a interesting Fleischmann locomotive I think the loco I bought was shady kinda but to find it works great but I never had a rivarossi so I was reluctant at first. Shipping is border checks etc I honestly think its ridiculous but I've found free shipping here usually over here but its rare.

[@garysprandel1817]

Fleishmann explains my surprise when it actually ran as I was expecting nothing to happen if it was Marklin because the proprietary track and power pick up on Marklin.

[@blasterblaster1221]

Fleischman models are really reliable...I own three myself including one of that style...and of all three of mine only one had issues running, but as I'm 22 and I'm pretty sure all of them are older then me and used I am happy with them

[@Killer-Of-Night]

1:24 Im sure that is a model power loco, recently started looking for these locos. They've made a few of the "Bullet train" locomotives in Amtrak, Santa Fe, Coke (As seen) and I think they've also done an accurate Shinkansen Livery as well (I've seen it made by Playart) Also I did come across one recently on Ebay (Amtrak) as a set, but it was sold under the GATA name, which is odd. (Not to mention its battery powered) Ended up buying it cause it was odd. Also pretty cool you got the dummy loco refunded.

[@piedmontrf81]

Well I missed it but i sure do love it

[@angryrailfan5711]

I love buying shady trains, and the Lionel 2332 is actually a good price.

[@hackenbeckproductions2683]

It's so difficult to decipher which number GG1 is which because of the stripes rubbing off!!

[@kool757]

Model 🚂 is fun 🤩

[@OwenConcorde]

Congratulations, you got a German BR80 tank engine!

[@jmm2000]

You might have to go online to ebay and get an Athearn motor for your CN dash-9. Or try A-line and they've got can motor and drive shafts for the locomotive.

[@w.rustylane5650]

I think they add Christmas decor to the tags to increase traffic to their page.

[@Techmonies92]

“Sellers are nice” WELL NO DUH THEY ARE IN CANADA

[@antonbruce1241]

Yea, you canucks can be pretty nice people...

[@warblitss8294]

Florida Rail Productions nice to know you people like us canadiens

[@prussia1557]

All of Canadas collective hatred was put in geese, why do you think they're so nice?

[@Techmonies92]

True..

[@antonbruce1241]

@@prussia1557 Well, at least they don't have a whole lot of feral parrots...lucky bastards!!!!

[@hackenbeckproductions2683]

That Lionel GG1 that you saw, if you would like to learn more about that stuff, just go to Tandem Associates, then click on the link where it says "Identify your Lionel Trains" and then go from there!

[@borailroadfan8964]

Nice Haul. Glad You Got A Refund. Nice Video SMT.

[@rayhuntermusic]

Cool little train

[@alexandnintendo7822]

Eyy, Fleischmann stuff. I just got some of their vintage German passenger coaches not too long ago.

[@vabbit2973]

You should run the dummy with your other cn dash 9 sometime

[@antonbruce1241]

Or you could cannibalize the parts from other engines and make it a powered loco, if that's what floats your boat...

[@shockstrains5077]

The thumbnail face is literally priceless

[@OttawaModelRailFan]

Nice haul! There are some interesting items on Etsy. Its pretty nice that the seller refunded you for the dummy loco. I wonder if there will be a third episode to this lol

[@tjprptchable]

I like these type of videos wen you dont know wats going to happen keep up the great work.

[@raymondleggs5508]

The german locomotive and american cars were part of a set from the 60's/early 70's it was pretty common to package foreign locomotives with american cars back then because the european locomotives usually ran better

[@ronineter1]

That Black steam loco looks Like a older Fleichmann BR80 engine and the rest of the cars are also made by Fleichmann. It sounds like that engine needs to have its gears cleaned, its quite common with older fleichmann engines to find a whole lot of gunk behind the gears and in the gears. Be care full with taking it apart since sometimes you could damage the gears in between the individual driving wheels. If you need spare parts for it, its probably quite easy to find since fleichmann locos have standardized parts between locos, but be aware that its common the motor shield has quite some variation in it even withing the same model.

[@garrinhatfield40]

Nice video SMT!

[@CrazyKaboose]

I want to know this. Let’s just say I have a batchmanns train.... and I buy an Different company of model trains. Will they connect and use the same tracks?

[@strike9716]

Bachman and athearn sets both use bachman EZtrack, as will most of your nicer sets. Life-like uses powerlock track which is different and non-compatible with bachman. Model power and other weird brands usually have their own system. YMMV on compatibility. As for the trains themselves, pretty much anything new comes with knuckle couplers these days so you should be fine there. Old athearns that use the old horn-hook style couplers can be converted to knuckles easily enough. But with old bachman and life-like and most other brands with truck mounted couplers you're stuck with horn-hooks unless you make major modifications.

[@theprivyline484]

That gg1 is worth the price the strips get rubbed off because of what they were made of

[@heidibohnert4959]

The CN Dash--9 Dummy can go with the other CN Dash--9

[@MattKonsol]

I like that csx locomotive on etsy. Btw I’m not a o gauge guy though but I think o gauge trains looks pretty cool.

[@splink7372]

The feather on the Western Pacific engine is because of the Western Pacific Railroad Museum in the feather river in California

[@sergeantpommes]

Is the model locomotive at 12:10 from the company "Fleischmann (Germany)"? If I know it correctly, they adapted several models to US locomotives in the 70s and sold them on the German market. I also think that these are now collector's models that go for a good price in Germany.

[@heidibohnert4959]

Good locomotive but when are you going to fix the CP EMD SD40-2

[@mistermadmachine6311]

I once bought an n scale engine from germany at a train show Speaking of which the one you have should be an easy repair as it probably only needs a screw

[@Lakeside_Rail_Productions]

Lol getting a dummy and not knowing is a drag! I bought an EMD Oakway SD60 from eBay For 70 Bucks. The Guy said he got it from a collector who recently passed and told me "' I think It Runs''. I fell for it just because I had seen the model before as it was from Life-Like. When it arrived I put it on the main to see it run. after multiple attempts, I finally opened it up to find No Moter. I asked For a Partial Refund And He Never Answered. I ended up oddly liking it though, because of the Detail and durriblility. Just another case of shady trains, except on eBay!

[@vintagethrifter2114]

Better than getting something else and not knowing it's in drag.

[@JBofBrisbane]

Find a powered one and swap the bodyshells.

[@tannerrobinson5110]

My dad has about 200 blue boxes, cars, locomotives and other items but nowhere to build a line. Most of it is from when he was building a trainset as a teenager (he's 53 now). I'm not sure what his plans are for them.

[@kdtrproductions4983]

Next you should do it on Ebay i bought a D&RGW SD40T on there with dcc and sound

[@RealFritoTV]

Nice Score! The shipping to Canada is outrageous. It's going to cost around $100 USD to ship you a box of trains from Texas.

[@piggytuberailfans1738]

You should make a video on the Powered Cn dash 9 and the dummie cn dash 9!

[@Jeremia252]

The brand of those wagons is fleishmann the train as well

[@Taggart00]

I have one of these locos and it seems pretty bullet proof

[@hector.sully1234]

Congrats on the 14k

[@bryanwhat2268]

I like the little loco

[@nordisk1874]

When I got the notice I’m like hockey is on man..

[@robertpaulson7796]

that German loco looks like a br 80 cant tell honestly i currently started in HO about 2 years ago and ive been building half my layout as a ww2 war theme and ive got a cheap piko br-80 toy grade and a br 76 and some US army switchers i would kill for that in my DR railway collection

[@natestrains1166]

Now you have another Dash9 to run with your other two.

[@Taggart00]

The couplings look like they are an aftermarket refit as they look like modern British style ones.

[@scotthousman7251]

Hi, I am a Roco, Fleischmann authorized service center in the USA. I can possibly help you out with the hex head screw you need to secure the side rods on your loco. I also have motor brushes gears and other parts if you need them. BTW, are you still using that huge Weller soldering iron in your repairs? If so, I may be able to help you out with a Weller soldering station. I have two retired units as I switched to Hakko last year. Not sure how to contact you, but if you search for Fleischmann repair in Virginia, you'll find me. I enjoy your enthusiasm.

[@SMTMainline]

I wasn't aware Fleischmann had service centers, it would be great if I could buy that part. My email is [e-mail]

[@antonbruce1241]

If that Athearn blue box CN is a dummy, it shouldn't take TOO much to convert it to powered. That is, if you have spare old blue box parts lying around....

[@justaboringjoha3678]

In Germany those old Fleischmann US sets are really expensive.

[@Heroduothecomedian]

That train set you got is so cool looking and question. When did you get a second Milwaukee Road class A hiawatha locomotive?

[@SMTMainline]

I got it as a christmas gift in 2013.

[@Heroduothecomedian]

@@SMTMainline cool.i ask because this was the first time i saw two on the layout at the same timd

[@exlimey1417]

Can you convert the CN loco or use the shell. That thing looks to be in really good condition.

[@jpbx_902]

ants:we need more space to build our homes smt: buys more trains ants: well what should we do now take over the layout?

[@MrBnsftrain]

Will you ever try buying model trains from AliExpress? I'm really curious what the quality of the rolling stock they have is like

[@SMTMainline]

Haven't used that site before.

[@andrewsandlin9698]

hey there. one question, ive got a 2020 bachmann super cheif n scale starter set and we have a dog with lots of hair. i have my it on my desk and by watching your videos you say not to run your train on carpet fortunately i its not on carpet its on my desk. but somehow its gets from the floor to my desk. its not bad but it does pick up hair. any suggestions on how to take it apart and access the wheels to get the hair removed. i also have a ton of ho stuff like two 1960's locomotives and three bachmann ho locomotives ive have to take them apart to clean and lubricate but ive never taken a n scale locomotive apart. i really appreciate it if you can give me any suggestions

[@trainsontape6531]

You should do an episode on craigslist or facebook marketplace trains

[@douglasallen511]

Can you please explain how you use the 2 gages on the dc controller, what do they indicate ?

[@williamsantangelo]

Hi you got good backround Music!

[@Mdrailer1]

That refridgerator car looks like a Pennline.

[@fairportrails107]

Nice German tank engine

[@catsdogsandtrackmastertrai8463]

I want to see a restoration on the west german locomotive

[@Tyc11114]

Those hiawatha cars are prewar lionel and are worth 300 dollars

[@RTwoSix]

The price of the O-scale GG1 is justifiable if it's stripe wasn't worn off of it

[@1964catt]

Could you add a motor to the dummy engine?

[@ballin3306]

E P I C

[@evanstraintubeyt6950]

When the next live stream?

[@prairierailproductions6737]

That high speed coke engine look like a 0 series sheikansen

[@afrikayt]

You should look for european stuff more often, specially the german steam locomotives, you wont be dissapointed

[@Bayareaglobz]

I kept trying to scroll down

[@evanforst7272]

Do the sellers know about these vids? might be kinda fun to send them the link somehow

[@SMTMainline]

Not that I'm aware of, not sure how they would react.

[@jackdurbin4324]

Hey what's up Jack 👽👽👍

[@MSwolfdog158]

How much is this money?

[@LDaniel_BDuce]

Uhh......... How am I supposed to answer this

[@metrolinxfan3005]

I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry I missed the premere

[@ikea_tank7193]

I’ve noticed that people that aren’t in/from the US call it “the states”

[@beybladeburstglory1227]

Ronan Muellner we Americans call the us “the strongest country in the world”

[@ikea_tank7193]

Zane Roberts I’m not going to disagree or agree with you but I have lived in The US for all of my life

[@evanj2400]

Yes

[@thegillingroup1303]

Can you restore that steamer???

[@localrat2796]

lol this was fun

[@cheesewonton7263]

Is Etsy safe?

[@tedsalmen]

8:25 big oof

[@stef.b.m.lk1902]

The steam loco and cars are all by the same maker