BVLOS DJI Drone Flight - The Truth : Members Video (Now Public)

[@JonAtLarge]

Watched a wonderful video the other evening, filmed down south somewhere of a steam train puffing along a coastal track, it was one of the most cinematic shots of a steam train, against beautiful countryside and clearly way beyond any VLOS capability. VLOS in remote country areas shouldn't be relevant, in built up areas clearly more care is needed, it really is something the CAA should be relaxing for us rural folk.

[@moonshinepz]

It's all true. Only the facts have been changed. As the saying goes 👍

[@WindsweptRobert]

We have our own facts 😁

[@petermainwaringsx]

I remember that video Robert. Too many uncertainties to make a positive identification of who was actually flying it. Whos to say the person flying the drone was actually a passenger on a quad bike, who has exceptional vision and although it was ten clicks from the home point, it was actually only a couple of hundred meters from the controller. I think it was all a wind up and it was never out of VLOS from the operator. Believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear. 😎

[@WindsweptRobert]

Absolutely ;)

[@xjet]

If prosecutions for flying BVLOS can cut the death toll associated with the recreational use of multirotor drones by even one percent then I'm all for it. Someone remind me, what is that horrendous death toll associated with the recreational use of multirotor drones again? Oh... yeah... 😛

[@WindsweptRobert]

I think the number you're looking for is....zero! ;)

[@xjet]

@@WindsweptRobert OMG! Surely we can halve that?

[@johnburns5783]

@@xjet Crikey Bruce, surely we could go even lower than half of zero deaths? I'm positive we could go for 1/4 or even 1/16th of zero 😉😉

[@smoggydrones5664]

@@xjet it’s not about deaths it’s about the CAA(UK) getting stricter with the regulations. I personally think we should be allowed to use the screen. If a jumbo jet with 300 people on board can use technology to aid flying why carry a 250 gram drone do the same.

[@exiledfpv]

Not to sound too paranoid....but don't forget that you just gave away 10 random memberships.

[@WindsweptRobert]

I know! That's why I was being a bit cagey with my words. I think I left myself fairly unexposed though - unless you have spotted something I said that could blow back on me?

[@exiledfpv]

Nah....everything's good....that's just my devil's advocate tendency showing. As I said in my other comment, if it did get reported, it wouldn't be hard to get the case dismissed if it was only based on the telemetry.@@WindsweptRobert

[@WindsweptRobert]

phew!

[@MavericksDrone]

They are regulations....not laws anyway.... 🙄

[@exiledfpv]

Well I guess you told me...didn't ya @@MavericksDrone

[@markgc65]

What happened after your police visit ? is it still ongoing?

[@WindsweptRobert]

I created a follow up video 😁

[@NickB_Yorkshire]

Had to laugh the other week when a certain “auditor” explained to someone in a video that VLOS is the drone being able to see you 🤣🤣

[@WindsweptRobert]

They are not the most intelligent bunch! 😁

[@NickB_Yorkshire]

@@WindsweptRobert 🤣🤣👍

[@johnburns5783]

If ye lend someone your car and the car is photographed by a speed camera going faster than the speed limit, the police will ask the owner for details of the person driving. If you withhold their name, then you will get the speeding fine. 😉😉

[@WindsweptRobert]

Aye, but this wasnae a car ;)

[@johnburns5783]

@@WindsweptRobert Maybe so Robert, but whaes gaun tae possibly prosecute the owner ? Surely only the CAA would be in that position ? And even then they could only base that on video evidence ( which as you’ve shown previously, can be easily manipulated ) 😉😉

[@WindsweptRobert]

Still, it's an interesting question, no? I'm not saying I have the correct answer - I don't. But I like to hear what others have to say on matters like these :)

[@markgc65]

You are correct because the road trafic act or what ever it is has that specific instance written in to it with punishments for failing to comply. However this legislation does not ! the car owner is not responcable for an other drivers actions.

[@zxrenew5642]

Whosoever shall aid, abet, counsel, or procure the Commission of any Misdemeanor, whether the same be a Misdemeanor at Common Law or by virtue of any Act passed or to be passed, shall be liable to be tried, indicted, and punished as a principal Offender.

[@WindsweptRobert]

Lending a drone to someone does not fall within the parameters of your comment imo

[@MavericksDrone]

Thousands of FPV , (including DJI AVATA pilots) flyers fly without a spotter...and thousands more fly BVLOS with their other DJI drones regardless of weight. I certainly don't think less of you Windy Bob...most of us realised your (non -members version) vid on this matter was......Winkface-turquoise-covering-eyes

[@smoggydrones5664]

Let’s be totally honest here. 95% of all drone flights break VLOS rules. No one after 40-50m can see the orientation of the Drone FACT ! The get out of jail card is proving you cannot see the orientation of the drone. Technology can tell us this info so should be allowed to be used. I’ve reported so many drone violations to the CAA and in every case the CAA were not interested. Unless someone or something are injured or damaged or in some cases high profile flights they are not interested.

[@johnburns5783]

@@smoggydrones5664 I can theoretically fly my mini 3 Pro 400m away from me and be 100% certain of its orientation at all times. I can then fly it back to me and still be 100% certain 😉😉😉😉 ( hint here,It would be a particularly boring flight there and back 😉😉)

[@WindsweptRobert]

Just curious - why did you feel the need to make reports to the CAA?

[@WindsweptRobert]

Just curious - why did you feel the need to make reports to the CAA?

[@smoggydrones5664]

@@WindsweptRobert so many auditors on line go way past VLOS and it’s these people will spoil it for the other Drone pilots. Their own video clearly shows this

[@WindsweptRobert]

They always break GDPR regs too :)

[@BlairAir]

I see said the blind man. I am a bit disappointed in my own gullibility, in that i usually start from a point of complete acceptance, only getting suspicious when obvious facts dont line up, or something raises suspicion. I've been thinking in terms of live flights; interactions with authorities during the flight itself, rather than later, via video "evidence" -in quotes for its unreliable nature. There was a drone pilot in Philadelphia breaking every rule in the book, got a $170k fine after FAA wrote him repeatedly about it. Its generally not helpful to narrate in real time the ways you are breaking regulations in real time. He eventually settled down, but is still too much of a joker for my taste. PhillyDroneLife

[@WindsweptRobert]

His name has been mentioned in the comments before. I'll need to look him up!

[@derekpask3633]

I had an idea something wasn't quite right, when putting pen to paper. To keep line of sight, the pilot had to average 38 MPH on foot.

[@MavericksDrone]

His KZbin name is Philly Drone Life and he wasn't fined by the FAA.

[@WindsweptRobert]

@@derekpask3633 Or if the pilot was in a quad, hareing across the fields and able to keep the drone in VLOS :) (most farmers own at least 1 quad)

[@Hat_Uncle]

@@MavericksDrone true, he was Threatened with fines, never actually fined. People still don't get the facts when they hear things. Too much effort, all people, including the FAA people.

[@All-the-gear-no-idea-uk]

I think you may be liable on the basis that if you lend your car to someone and they go through speed cameras, you will get the ticket. If you say it wasn't you you have to provide the person who was driving the car's name and address failing to do so and you in court with the bill and that's in law unfortunately.

[@WindsweptRobert]

It's a drone, not a car. It's a distance, not a speed. You can't prosecute someone for flying a drone BVLOS using motoring laws :)

[@MavericksDrone]

Thousands of FPV , (including DJI AVATA pilots) flyers fly without a spotter...and thousands more fly BVLOS with their other DJI drones regardless of weight. I certainly don't think less of you Windy Bob...most of us realised your (non -members version) vid on this matter was......

[@WindsweptRobert]

I haven't carried out a survey, but from the comments, the majority of people are angry at my farmer friend for abusing our friendship.

[@MavericksDrone]

@@WindsweptRobert 😉🎶😉.. Aye he's old that Mcdonald...