BYD reveal new cheaper LFP Blade battery with 27% higher energy density

BYD reveal new cheaper LFP Blade battery with 27% higher energy density
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[@chrisfox9263]

I would rather have about 300 km range & pay a cheaper price. Some of us have not given in to range anxiety (which I believe is being pushed by BIG oil) and understand that you plan carefully using your car. NOT everyone needs a 1,000 km range and to travel 800km in a day. Looking forward to buying an affordable EV in the near future! :)

[@undercoveraca]

I agree with you personally. My EV does have a 350km range and I'm happy with it. But longer range for non-premium prices will be important for people with less access to charging outside big cities or because they have no home charging, so hopefully this breakthrough has something for everyone.

[@Reddylion]

Affordability and range both important. ofcourse adas etc too.

[@Harrythehun]

Few really want those short range cars. Buy a Dacia or VW Up or Seat Mii.

[@andrewprice9309]

I would rather the range but iam in regional Australia. Would love 800kms

[@GoodBoyGoneDad]

My only reason for wanting longer range is so that I can go longer between charging. My car gets around 300 mile range and I only buy gas every other week. So if I buy an EV that can go over 600 miles then I only need to charge it once a month. If I had my own charging station at home then only 200 mile range would be fine though.

[@thestonksmarket1897]

So basically BYD has caught up to CATL, more or less. That’s good because we need as many affordable/efficient LFP batteries as we can get to accelerate the production of compelling EVs which in turn will accelerate EV adoption and put the smack down on ICE and hybrid vehicles.

[@davidfujkk8018]

I think this v2 byd blade battery pack with 190 wh/kg in pack level energy density is the best battery pack ever released by any company,for comparison 2025 taycan line up with NMC 811 battery cells has 170 wh/kg in pack level energy density. or CATL qilin battery in zeekr with 280 wh/kg cells has 200 wh/kg in pack level energy density,or tesla model s plaid structural battery pack has 181 wh/kg in pack level energy density,so a battery pack with LFP battery chemistery and that energy density which also has much higher battery life almost like a petrol car and you can charge it to 100 percent with out battery degradation anxiety is amazing,very well done BYD.

[@knabbagluon]

I think both companies make great products. Each of their pros and cons.

[@thestonksmarket1897]

@@davidfujkk8018 It’s probably very similar in energy density to CATL’s newest/upcoming LFP battery that boasts increased range over their original LFP. We haven’t actually seen the real world range of this BYD battery either so it’s too soon to say it’s the best battery ever made by anyone.

[@Withnail1969]

If you're going to put the smack down on ICE vehicles be prepared for being charged per mile due to the extra damage to roads and being often unable to charge due to too much demand on the grid.

[@thestonksmarket1897]

@@Withnail1969 global EV adoption is roughly 9-10% meaning there’s 10x total addressable market for EVs to tap into. Energy generation and distribution (the grid) as well as charging infrastructure are being developed using green methods in lock step with EV production and adoption, so your premise is simply false. Furthermore an ICE truck and most ICE SUVs are already heavier than the average EV, so this is debunked too. Vast majority of EVs are hatchback, sedan, or compact SUV (like the Model Y).

[@Blessedmantoday]

This is great ! Especially because BYD is also building a lot of heavy vehicles who would also benefit from a longer range or lower weight/price

[@PiefacePete46]

I see a growing situation reminiscent of the early days of computers... every day there was another bigger-better-brighter machine announced. Some people held off buying because they preferred to wait for the final version. I know someone who is still waiting forty years later! 😮

[@bekirsivri80]

BYD says that new second generation battery will be using from this August. So I am waiting to buy my BYD EV

[@michahalczuk9071]

Fun fact regarding LFP - they seem to be almost the at same energy density in car battery packs as NMC. *But wait, there is more!* LFP doesn't need as much protection, cooling and energy buffer necessary for NMC. LFP - 180-190 Wh/kg, >80% weight density in pack - 140-155 Wh/kg, 0 buffer, >5000 cycle count. And now with 4C charging. NMC/NCA - 240-275 Wh/kg, ~60-65% weight density in pack ~165 Wh/kg, 10-15% buffer necessary, ~1000 cycle count. 165 Wh/kg * 0.9 = *148.5 Wh/kg* NMC/NCA is realistically at best on par with LFP, but more expensive and less reliable. Also NMC comes in huge single cells (because it can) so a structural battery is much easier to make. NMC/NCA only make any sense if you have gigantic mid-power battery, like in a truck. Other than that - LFP all the way. LFP even has smooth quick charging curve that goes almost to 100%, NMC and NCA get super slow after 80%. I find it ironic how Elon spent years developing good NCA battery packs, just to basically get beaten as soon as LFP gets adopted. Also LFP has ~40% lower raw material cost compared to NMC (30$ vs 50$/kWh). I'm pretty sure that LFP is going to dominate car market for a while.

[@undercoveraca]

Sounds like a game changer. I personally would be happy with 500km range, smaller battery and paying a lower purchase price. But if this means we can also get genuine long range 1000km EVs that don't cost an arm and leg that's great too. Many people will need those in Australia as I can't see us getting a good charging infrastructure outside of populated regions any time soon. When will they be in cars?

[@thomashierzberger6945]

Do the math: A realistic 1000km of range needs about 200 kWh even in a very efficient car. You only need long range when you do long trips. In today's standards this would mean a very heavy battery-pack. In my opinion it would be enough if a car can do 2 hours of highway-driving with 75% of the battery capacity combined with reasonable charging times.

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@thomashierzberger6945 How is 20 kwh per 100 km "very efficient"? Thats last 10 years ago level of efficiency lol...

[@thomashierzberger6945]

@@AI-qd4vb There are not too many Cars out there that can do 20 kWh/100km with a constant Speed of 130 km/h. Try it out for yourself.

[@h2rider953]

Price of filling a petrol car in Sydney is getting too high. EVs are the future.

[@jogana6909]

The price of crude oil is rising, so the competitiveness of EV is increasing.

[@deviusfeilds]

Aust government just needs to jump out of big oil's pocket ...

[@Be-Es---___]

Just wait what charging will cost in the future....

[@PiefacePete46]

​@@Be-Es---___ : That is something that will sort itself out in time. Some greedy providers will rip us off to begin with, but eventually competition will level things out. Near me the most expensive public charge provider is more than twice the price of the least expensive one... and they cannot advertise their kilowatts as having additives that will make your motor last longer! 😊

[@TRauck1506]

​@@Be-Es---___ You can put solar on your house so it will never be that high. It's impossible to control electricity prices like it is oil.

[@jcfallows]

It's all good news for the consumer And the planet!

[@brucemitchell5637]

BAHAHAHAHA!!!!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@Aapig]

Not good news for anti-China clowns and oil car companies

[@Withnail1969]

the fact that EV's are being pushed terrifies me. it means we are close to collapse.

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

The comparitive ease and servicibillity of a blade pack battery and the added safety and stability of the design makes them valuable.... adding 20% extra capacity and improving the general performance ..whats not to like. Not just for cars ... the boat and RV communities are looking for the same features and always want more capacity for storing Solar and other off grid imputs both for propulsion and house loads such as cooking and cooling and heating.

[@davidfujkk8018]

I think this v2 byd blade battery pack with 190 wh/kg in pack level energy density is the best battery pack ever released by any company,for comparison 2025 taycan line up with NMC 811 battery cells has 170 wh/kg in pack level energy density. or CATL qilin battery in zeekr with 280 wh/kg cells has 200 wh/kg in pack level energy density,or tesla model s plaid structural battery pack has 181 wh/kg in pack level energy density,so a battery pack with LFP battery chemistery and that amazing energy density which also has much higher battery life almost like a petrol car and you can charge it to 100 percent with out battery degradation anxiety is amazing,very well done BYD

[@pieter85]

The Taycan battery is a structural chassis component + their cooling system is something else as well... not comparable

[@pieter85]

Btw, where does he get te 27% improvement? "CEO, Wang Chuanfu, said the new battery will be even smaller and lighter with the same endurance during a recent financial meeting"

[@davidfujkk8018]

@@pieter85 at their press con they showed on a screen written 190wh/kg pack energy density,their first gen blade had 140 wh/kg which had been improved to 150 wh/kg in just two years so when your consider 150 to 190 you will have 26.7 percent increase in energy density and when you round that 26.7 you will have 27 percent increase in energy density

[@davidfujkk8018]

​@@pieter85 you are right 2025 taycan battery pack has one of the most advanced thermo management systems period along side with 811 chemistery,thats how they got that 320 kw fast charing in much wider range temperatures both in battery pack and out side air temperatures

[@opinionmatters7119]

Pretty cool when people put their minds together to innovate

[@Withnail1969]

electric cars were invented over 120 years ago and abandoned back then because they sucked. they still suck.

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@Withnail1969 youre deranged pal... Unmasked yourself as a trollish hater.

[@douglaswatt1582]

So Sam, when you quote energy density, you have to make a distinction between cell level versus Pack level. Also as other people have pointed out its kilowatt hours per kilogram not kilowatts/kg. Even adding that missing denominator in, I can't tell which one you're talking about. But from the numbers I'm assuming Pack level

[@Withnail1969]

he doesnt know what he's talking about and doesnt care. he's a youtube grifter.

[@Itsallgoodtogo]

Im happy with 400km real world range if it comes in at around 20k

[@BillMitchell-lm8dg]

20k US Dollars, YES! :-)

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

And you can get more than half of that back when you go to sell the vehicle in a few years time.

[@3210randy]

Everybody’s situation is different I live in rural Australia and would charge from home needing 600 plus range

[@james_l4337]

Even basic Corolla is now well over 30,000+ more... It's very hard ask hahaha Only if no great war happens 2025 Unlikely If such car arrive it will be from heaven 😮

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@3210randy No, what you need is to move...

[@erhuforever]

This is great news! The smart way to utilize this improvement is to keep the battery energy capacity the same in the car and harvest the weight reduction. This will translate nicely into increased range and efficiency due to getting the weight out of the car. The dumb way to employ this improvement would be to simply increase the battery energy capacity in the car while not reducing weight. Dead weight is the biggest killer of efficiency.

[@andrewmutavi590]

So a newer model with the same size pack that offered say 250miles would have a 320+mile range at the same battery pack size n weight?that'd be mighty impressive

[@Macmonkey1000]

MAGIC 😄

[@jogana6909]

Well done BYD

[@JoeyBlogs007]

As long as you have at least 400km of range and super fast charging ( i.e. 400 kW + charging speeds ), the vast majority of drivers wont be significantly inconvenienced, if at all. This is because after driving 400km, one typically needs at least a 30 minute break and during that time one would be able to top up their vehicle batteries to 80%.

[@rodandakiko2187]

As long as the infrastructure is there, I agree with you. Just a bit concerned about getting that stuff in the regional areas of some states and countries. I wonder how many chargers will be needed to accommodate the time when every one is driving an EV

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Absolutely. Super fast charging needs to reach ubiquity everywhere and new EV models need to have the fast charging capability for that tipping point to be reached. I would think that be at least 5 to 10 years away. Fundamentally the numbers stack up, as the EV motor is far more efficient. Charging infrastructure and new designs just need to align, to maximise the benefits.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Some people would be more than happy with 300km range, again as long as super fast charging ubiquity is reached. I can barely get 300km in my ICE vehicle

[@Withnail1969]

the grid in the UK and US cannot support such chargers.

[@eldios831]

You are partially correct...But its human nature to want better...If they make it affordable....They definitely will find a market

[@ramblerandy2397]

The last comment by Sam is the very essence of what the batteries in BEVs are - in their early years. Just imagine what they will be like in 5, 10 years!?! It's virtually Game Over right now, so how does the ICEV compete with the BEV from here on in? The ICEV is at the squeaky limit of development after 100+ years. The BEV is just getting started. It's going to be a very different world in just a few years time.

[@charleskramer6189]

There are many competing chemistries, and many competing formats, and they're all taking longer to become real than predicted. Lithium-sulfur, Sodium-ion, and others.... they won't all make it. The more any of them succeed (cheaper, denser, safer, better in the cold) the sooner days of gasoline cars is OVER.

[@Withnail1969]

it will be a different world alright. not how you imagine it though.

[@ramblerandy2397]

@@Withnail1969 Indeed, not if the oil/gas companies get their way. It will be a power struggle, and if the oil/gas companies win it will be to the detriment of all of us.

[@bbck2537]

Ok Sam you keep making this mistake. When the energy density goes up (watts/kg), the new battery is going to be lighter for the same amount of energy! So a new car using the new battery to replace its 60Kwh battery will have less weight for a new 60Kwh battery, but to get the same range will still need a (close to) 60Kwh battery. 20% increase in energy density is 20% reduction in weight… does not / will not equal a 12% reduction in required overall energy capacity. Parasitic drag and power use (A/C etc) will not change, only a very small change will occur from rolling resistance because of the reduced weight.

[@hendrikbock]

I was about to write the same comment. I don't know why it would make sense to get the same range with a lot less energy. It's just that the battery with the same energy either get lighter or smaller - depending on whether volumetric or gravimetric energy density increased.

[@nagki]

True, I wrote the same thing. Thanks for mentioning it more clearly.

[@alanboucek]

yes, more energy density means that a battery pack that's the same physical size will have a larger capacity, or a physically smaller/lighter battery with the same capacity. A higher density smaller battery can be cheaper, and being lighter, can have additional improvement to range. This continued misunderstanding undermines the channel.

[@mteifke]

I think what he was trying to say is you could get 60 kWh from a former 50 kWh sized pack

[@alanboucek]

@@mteifke if you’re measuring capacity (Kwh), measure capacity, if you’re measuring physical size, measure weight and dimensions. You don’t need to be an engineer for this to make sense

[@joehodgson2815]

One day they'll have a 300 mile pack on a sub 10k motorcycle, and this is definitely going the right way! :)

[@BillMitchell-lm8dg]

Only if it weighs less than 200 lbs! :-)

[@chrisbarron5861]

300 miles range, when an electric bike at 70mph gets about 4.5 miles per kWh. To get 300 mile range needs 300/4.5 = 66.6kWh Using these 190Wh/kg batteries it would weigh 66600/190 = 350kG.......770lbs. 300 miles My bike gets 200 miles range on 20kG of fuel

[@jaaklucas1329]

Im waiting! After years of tinkering on Ebicycles I love the tech.

[@itekani]

I would gladly have the same battery size in my Model Y but 27% lighter.

[@rohankilby4499]

Great to see volumetric energy density coming along nicely, image when the electric car has had a century of development

[@ingmarkronfeldt6174]

Sam, the energy density is never in Watts/kg, it is in Watt-hours/kg (or Watt-seconds/kg if you use SI units). Watts/kg is like talking about horsepowers/kg.

[@timothykeith1367]

The Nissan Leaf has a healthy DIY fanbase. The Leaf is often cheap and is easier to upgrade than newer state-of-the-art EVs. Some improve the battery cooling. The Leaf has better aftermarket support and active forums. If Teslas were hackable, aging Teslas would be the cheap alternative. It wouid be fun if companies like BYD would support upgrades of other EVs - something like an "LS" swap in the U.S. car hobby.

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

There's at least one UK company that uses blade cells to repower the Leaf... because it's safer and more thermally stable plus it actually Increased the capacity with the first gen blades by about a third. Saving wt or increased capacity.. interesting experiment there 🤔but nice to have the 20% boost and know that they are all working at reducing the costs even further from even the current lower levels. There's a measure of discussion that they (the Chinese) collectively may be aiming for a 50% reduction by working together.

[@TheCostofAutism]

4:25 the reason that the nail test is very relevant is because of the fact that you can be driving down the street and there will be an object in the middle of the road that gets kicked up under the car and we'll end up puncturing the battery. This actually happened to several Tesla vehicles including the Tesla Model S plaid when it very first came out. It's one of the major reasons why the Tesla plaid was delayed for almost a year. As for the plug-in hybrids the main problem that they have is the fact that you always have gas fumes with gas powered vehicles unless the tank is pressurized. Something would happen to where the hybrids battery would get punctured it would mix with the gas fumes and explode. Toyota pretty much always pressurized their hybrids gas tanks which is why they never had this issue

[@urbestboy]

keep innovations coming

[@leerizer]

Maintain it with current range but reduce price and weight of the car. It is rare for a person who drive few hundred km daily.

[@keriford54]

We're seeing significant improvements in both range and price of EVs and there is no indication that improvement is going to slow down. Hopefully, there will be a variety of good EVs available. BYD & Tesla are leaders, The Koreans are doing well, but I do hope Ford & the European brands can lift their game fast enough. There is more likely to be wide spread adoption if they do. Can't say I'm very positive about Toyota who seem to be actively fighting against EV adoption.

[@TheCostofAutism]

Even if this battery sold at the same price byd makes more money because it's a smaller pack therefore takes less materials and even at the same size as the old battery the car now gets better range because the battery pack is not so heavy

[@Dr-EV]

Here in UK, most EV can get by with 150-250 mile range. In the US, 400-500 mile range is needed much more for people crossing between settlements spread further apart. So it's all down to the market needs. If we have a small battery giving 200 miles, but was able to maintain charging speed of over 200kw all the way to 99%, smaller batteries are not going to be an issue.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

Thank you for letting me know about the new battery system that is making the BYD cars look like a better buy than most other electric vehicles.

[@larryfinley9221]

Wouldn’t a longer range also allow for fewer charge cycles, which would extend the life of the battery, as well?

[@JamesBond-jb2yi]

Sam, Thank you for your video. Well, it comes as a no surprise that BYD has developed new batteries with 27% more density. Others are working on the same projects, so the competition is fierce. New battery in EV will bring the cost down, helping people to save money. If people would be able to drive more for less, then they will do it.

[@Reddylion]

❤👍, must install with facelift atto 3 now.

[@nagki]

Higher Energy density means the battery possibly weighs less and occupies less space, yes you can reduce the kwh of the battery capacity to get the same range but the biggest advantage is in having smaller cars capable of doing longer distances. Not everyone has to buy big SUVs which mask the giant batteries that they carry. Same 60kwh battery in Atto 3 now should be smaller and lighter which means you can pack more range into Atto 3 by providing a bigger battery OR remain the same and reduce the overall weight. I don't see how 50kwh battery can give the same range. Yes, weight reduction helps in city cycle but not as much as 10kwh worth of range.

[@joeforte5468]

Good stuff Sam ... Still have your family in my prayers

[@sootoongkok]

This second generation battery means that the car with the same kWh size will be lighter. That would result in better acceleration, better range and longer lasting of tyres.

[@Black_Sun_Dark_Star]

Can you swap out the old attery pack with the new ones?

[@Charvak-Atheist]

50-60$ per kWh means game over for ICE cars.

[@Karl-Benny]

No wonder sales are down on EV`s they are waiting on the newer and better and cheaper Gen cars

[@chasf3433]

This should enable manufacturers to give us smaller cheaper EVs with decent 300mile plus range.

[@paulstubbs7678]

I'm thinking the problem with hybrids is they have a really tiny battery, so that when it's running on battery, the load per cell is off the charts, compared to a full EV, where the load is spread across many more cells in a much bigger pack. So is this puny battery with really stressed cells the reason they tend to blow up all the time?

[@james_l4337]

I hope the new safe battery gets into dolphin world wide especially Australia asap 2024 ! Thank you BYD beforehand

[@Wandering_Bear]

I do love my Atto 3, but with one huge exception here in NZ. Damage repair is very difficult, impossible in some areas of NZ. Parts are very difficult to get and BYD refuses to let you use your own mechanic. Even something small like denting your tailgate requires parts shipped from China and can only be installed by BYD favoured mechanics. These are all because of BYD policies. Now that I've seen how bad service is I'll never by another.

[@ScottOstr]

800 mile range means charging stations became much less important ♥️🎯

[@eddiegill]

As energy density increases car makers would be smart to max out range at 350 miles and use smaller batteries making car lighter.

[@alsjogren7890]

For BYD imports into Mexico they first need to change the charging from a Chinese standard to NACS or CCS1. The BYD dealer in Hermosillo, Sonora said that they will change the charging in 2026. Longer trips would be seriously impacted unless they match the DC Fast Chargers in North America. Next, for Mexico they need a model that has better ground clearance - big speed bumps, pot holes, and some primitive roads in Sonora need more ground clearance than I saw in models in Hermosillo.

[@oaguilarm]

I agree 100% with you. I am in Mexico City. Our government needs to start to force the electrical car manufacturers to come equipped with the NACS standard that many EV vehicle manufacturers are about to adopt as standard. NACS is the Tesla connector (SAE J3400), and the voltage supply, and protocols, needed to make life easer for everybody. So all the cars and charging stations work well together. We do not want to carry with us adapters and find out that the public charger does not supply the correct voltage that our vehicle needs. Standards are very important to follow and respect. Even the voltage, and electrical outlet, installed inside the vehicles are not compatible. We use 127V AC, and the NEMA 5-15 standard. The arriving chinese cars being sold in Mexico come with the Chinese outlet and supply 220V AC.

[@marcelosorde7972]

Question. Should i consider buy a byd EV car now or should wait for the new gen blade battery? I'm considering buying a byd seal but if the next gen blade increase its range in the seal i rather wait. What do u have to say about this? Thank's

[@huckleberryfinn6578]

Sam, you misunderstand the concept of energy density and capacity. Energy density indicates how much energy fits into a kilogram of battery, capacity indicates how much energy the battery stores. High energy density means less weight and perhaps volume. Capacity, on the other hand, remains the same if you want to keep the same range. BYD batteries are not 50 kWh, they remain 60 kWh, but are 27% lighter compared to the first version.

[@cmw3737]

Charging battery pack modules in parallel is such an obvious improvement. Why's it not being done in all new EVs?

[@MrGMawson2438]

Keeps getting better

[@rastislavvarga9908]

To me it almost seems that cylindrical type which tesla is using was wrong choice? Is it coincidence that catl and byd are using blade batteries?

[@z.Sh4ped.Po0Tin]

Nice improvement! Any timeline on actual availability for both consumers and BEV car producers?

[@my2cents395]

This sounds like a great Robo Taxi battery. A Robo Taxi may not need much range. It can charge daily or even during the day. This means a smaller lighter and cheaper battery. This lessens battery supply issues. I don't see the model 2 and Robo Taxi being the same. Model 2 needs to be sexy. Robo Taxi needs to be practical. If I was designing a Robo Taxi it would be front wheel drive, no frunk, 2 sliding doors, each accessing front and rear seats, a rear hatch and a low rear floor as there is no rear axle. Shape of a box. Easy to get in and out of. It's for city driving so aerodynamics is less important. Shape needs to stand out.

[@howardj602]

The really good news today is that the 6 New England states now have 52 percent of their solar provided by roof top solar and wind generation. The bad news is that some those rooftop solar installations are now reaching the age were their efficiency as been reduced and will have to be replaced. At the same time the existing roofing materials underneath the solar arrays have also reached their age limitations.

[@pjonespresents9843]

This should be stating less weight, cost and physical size of battery pack for a particular amount of kWh, not “able to travel the same distance on less kWh” as stated about 4 minutes into the video.

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Great video mate

[@firstlast-ty4di]

"Game changer", "disruptive", "transformational"... as these cliches become threadbare, it will be interesting to see what their replacements will be.

[@fsaldan1]

I wish I had a $ for each game-changing technology shown in this channel.

[@poneill65]

Are these Wh/Kg specs for the cell or packs? Hpw does it compare to a 4680 pack? I wonder if the CyberTruck could use these (according to Munroe, there's a lot of dead space inside the CT battery pack,.. thinking ahead???)

[@chasf3433]

Sam You will still need the same 60kwh battery to give the same mileage it will just be smaller and lighter due to the improved energy density

[@brianmb]

I certainly think that a longer range would increase uptake… but using the example of my personal household, we have a Tesla and a gas car to take to the beach and such. We could certainly manage to take the EV but we just tend to take the gas car on longer trips. I would love the option of having a short and long range EV

[@regisplotton3917]

J'ai une BYD SEAL AWD depuis le 23 février. J'en suis complètement satisfait. La voiture est superbe et je fais régulièrement des trajets de 450 km sans recharger et il me reste 15% de batterie. c'est donc très bien. Dès que BYD sortira la leon 7 et si elle est prévue avec la batterie nouvelle génération ce sera ma nouvelle vouture. En tout cas bien qu'il y ai des détracteurs sur la seal il ferait bien de l'essayer sans arrière pensée.

[@duck56240]

Intéressant ! Le seul truc que je trouve intrigant : la vitesse de charge semble faible comparé à une lfp « classique » sur une model 3 par exemple. Tu as cette expérience aussi ?

[@regisplotton3917]

je ne peux pas répondre car entre chaque voyage je recharge avec la borne que j'ai chez moi

[@marshalltaylor850]

Is it worth waiting to buy a EV and wait a year for the higher KLM range.......How long do you think it will be before BYD supply a long range battery vehicle in Australia? Will the Ocean M have the newer battery?

[@terryward1422]

As the batteries get smaller they get cheaper. That is bad news for legacy automakers who depend ICE car sales...

[@davidpalmer4794]

And unlike Tesla, BYD seem to produce what they promise they will.

[@nagi-springfield93]

and this v2 blade battery gonna launch in q3 this year too

[@davidpalmer4794]

@@nagi-springfield93 might hold out and delay my dolphin.

[@nagi-springfield93]

@@davidpalmer4794 Normally new battery will equip on higher end model first, at least 1-2 years until entry level ev get to use it. You might need to wait a long time

[@davidpalmer4794]

@@nagi-springfield93 very true. An extra 10-20% isn't going to affect me anyway, but it would be nice to have.

[@Mario-jn5zq]

Looks fine to me, we already switched our 19 year old car to a ev and in 5 years we want to switch the 2nd. I hope they bring it fast,so I maybe can buy a year or 2 old with this new battery for a good price in 5 years 😅

[@yellowcake7319]

You keep confusing energy density, capacity, weight. Greater energy density simply means the same capacity in kWH takes up less space/weight.

[@jaaklucas1329]

Weight reduction is great. Flip it, same weight as present =more range.

[@kamingcloud2880]

The longer the range, the better in cold winter conditions countries. In the winter times, turning on the heat to keep warm on an electric vehicle will drain out the batteries very quickly. Having long-range batteries less charging time. 😃💖🔋🌞💯🌏✌️

[@allanudsen8525]

Maybe it would be possible to replace the battery on a Seal with a newer tech later on if needed... Would that be a solution maybe?

[@MarsOzzie]

KW is KW. Just it will weigh less or take up less space. It can't go further on 50kw if it was 55kw

[@brad_dod]

Do you have any references to the $55-60/kwh battery costs?

[@WM12329]

If Chinese manufacturers can produce as many cheaper vehicles as possible we think we can now afford to join the EV revolution. Once governments have added tariffs and dealerships have added their mark-up to the sale price, we’ll still be in the same place. How long do we stick with the 100+ year old internal combustion engine? When used EV’s replace ICE cars at “Dodgy Dave’s Auto’s” I’ll know everyone can afford them!

[@ursokind]

Would it be possible for ppl who own the current BYD car to someday change the battery to the 2nd generation battery ?

[@neildolan7177]

We need global diversity of battery manufacturing & not just batteries developed in China.

[@boblhsax]

We also need more cooperation, and more trust, between countries involved in these technologies. Can't blame, or punish, China for the failings of western economies.

[@neildolan7177]

@boblhsax China's economy is not in good health. Growth is going backwards. The rest of the world has helped China to grow, but it is now threatening global security with threats of war. This situation will reflect in the choices people make when buying electric cars & their origin of supply.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Tell that to the likes of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. Economic rationalism, trickle down economics... the horse has bolted.

[@davidrink1291]

The whole world is still suffering from the economic policies that the Reagan and Thatcher administrations enacted back in the 70s and 80s. Ronnie Popular was a shill for big oil and he opened the revolving door between business and government big time. His support for right wing governments in Latin America snd his so called “war on drugs” helped to bring about the problems we have on our southern border. I don’t understand why so many Reagan Republicans to this day still idolize that guy and continue to vote against their own interests.

[@user-tk2xl5cx8z]

Bought more BYDDY ...they are the EV of the future....but with US and Europe taxes...is complicated ...because they can lose millions of ICE cars producers. And then there are the Unions and politicians.

[@ardnagreevagh]

In your video at 7.25 charging plug cable 😊

[@Dico6]

800km range? 8 0 0 KILOMETER RANGE?!? I will believe that when I see it.

[@rudyalfonsus686]

nio 1000 km. and proven. a blogger make live videos until the battery drop

[@foodparadise5792]

This is nothing comparing to another Chinese company, Talent New Energy's new solid state battery which has the energy density of 720Wh/kg.

[@bsobro]

Yeah but its not used in production vehicles yet are they?

[@foodparadise5792]

@@bsobro Soon, battery markets in hot war now.

[@davec110]

@@bsobro Look up IM L6 that just got released today. semi-solid state with Quasi-900V ultra fast charging.

[@deviusfeilds]

Do they swap out easily? Or do you throw the car with the battery?

[@GDM22]

An LFP battery shold last longer than the car it is installed in.

[@ricecrash5225]

My problem as a red blooded Aussie male is driving a car with “Build Your Dreams” written on the back. It’s just not happening.

[@larryp4995]

As a Canadian waiting to purchase a TESLA Model y EV .. The range anxiety and degradation is VERY IMPORTANT to me ... The 12 years Ive be studying batteries for higher charging speed , higher quality, safer fire Resistance , travelling longer range , higher range degradation resistance , minimum of 250,000 miles battery life , high software management control , high motor drive quality, higher voltage charging system [ 800 kw ] , higher battery density to keep the weight down. The BEST would be SOLID STATE batteries but they are very expansive and they have a shorter cycle life. The company who solves these 2 issues first will dominate the industry, also they are about 40% lighter.. I need a car with a range about 525 miles or so on a GOOD DAY on a WINTER DAY you would LOSE about 30% of range so 500 x 30% = 350 mile Range . I live about 25 miles out of town with this range would give me room to travel with..We are getting close to what I'm looking for... MAYBE NEXT YEAR.. Maybe the NEW Model y upgrade next year might fit the bill ...

[@douglaswatt1582]

Anyone who lives in North America who believes that they need a 550 Mi range battery to buy an electric vehicle should simply drop out of the game.

[@geoquestprime9447]

The world's leading performance electric vehicle manufacturers are not adopting LFP batteries, but NCM or NCMA batteries. If LFP batteries are superior to NCM or NCMA batteries in terms of safety, durability, and energy density, are they making the wrong choice? That is more important than what BYD is babbling about.

[@Hyper-Reality]

Battery Density is getting better slowly, but charge speeds are sometimes degrading or simply slipping sideways. For the most part this is ok as long as EVs are charged at home over night. Long distance use cases, where sustained charge speeds matter the most are still struggling. 5 years ago people claimed batteries would be way better by 2025... That hasn't happened... So V3 / V4 is more likely to simply reduce weight and cost of EV vehicles, but not solve the faster charging problems.

[@GDM22]

It is only 2024, CATL have also made significant announcements recently.

[@milindgeneral2795]

With this speed BYD will eat up the legacy auto makers

[@oggyoggy1299]

Yes, new battery breakthrough #437.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Don't tell me, let me guess. It's smaller, lighter, cheaper, safer, lasts for longer, and you can charge it using the solar panel on an 80's Casio calculator in just 5 minutes.

[@geofflatz9035]

Hi Sam love your pod cast and believe we will see electric plains soon

[@MrVaticanRag]

What did you mean too say an energy cost of between $50 & $60 per kiloWatt.hour or you mean capacity cost? Coz Indonesia's 8×500MWe ThorCon TMSRs have a levelised pre-profit energy cost of less than $30 per MegaWatt.hour (

[@sullivanrachael]

The question is does the blade battery architecture suffer longevity problems or some other drawback as a result of increasing the energy density? There is no free upgrades in any device in this world - when you increase one thing something else has to decrease, and in this case isn’t not just the size.

[@SunshineVocals]

600km of range for Canada and our cold weather would be great. We know we'd get like 400km from that.

[@davec2211]

More power, lighter and charging faster - that's the perfect progress, graphene never (or as yet become the magic ingredient in batteries did it? - great news for BYD! and for the EV cause

[@MoppelMat]

W/kg is not energy density. it is a power density

[@NemSS78]

The strength of China's innovation is brilliant. Good job BYD. 🥳💯🎉

[@ghrosenb]

Speaking of eating Toyota's lunch, BYD is touting it's next gen platform -- releasing vehicles in August -- as able to create PHEVs with 300 miles of battery range and 300 miles of gas range, for a total of 600 miles per fill-up. A PHEV like that will eat the market.

[@larryevans6739]

There are two next-generation platforms. The next generation EV platform (4.0) is scheduled to launch in August. The next generation DM-i PHEV platform (Gen 5) is scheduled to start next month, pending market conditions, according to Wang Chaunfu. The new Seal 06 model is anticipated to be the first to get it. "As the current model is in short supply, BYD will gradually make the switch to the fifth-generation DM model in May based on market conditions, Wang said at the time."

[@ulysseskh]

1:38 190Wh/kg 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@ulysseskh]

Tesla's 4680 cells, for comparison, measure somewhere between 244~296 Wh/kg❗

[@chillfluencer]

So the density got up by 27% - and BYD will halve the price of its batteries in August 2024. That means the real price will be 77% cheaper than BYD's first generation battery if the price of this 2nd generation didn't go up compared to the 1st generation. .

[@BenjaminWeinlichYT]

How come the electric viking keeps saying 150 watts per kg when it says 150 watt hours per kg? Is that common in English to ignore the hours?

[@neilellison8984]

I just have seen some of the M Guy Australia video's. The poor guy is deep down in a Rabbit Hole. I don't think the is much hope left for him. I have owned EV's now for 6 years and now I find it very hard to go to a gas station to buy gas for the lawn mower. My current EV has 420km range which I find more than enough.

[@zizimai7568]

BYD should offer current EV owners the option to upgrade to new battery packs. Then buyers won't wait to buy BYD cars or hesitate to buy knowing 1-2 yr down the line, a newer & better battery will come along.

[@ghislainbourassa1906]

What's the charging curve of this new battery?