BYU Football Transfer Strategy: Addressing Concerns While Building STOUT Future| BYU Cougars Podcast

[@aBrewster29]

Measuring BYU’s recruiting is difficult. The fact that BYU consistently outperforms its HS recruiting rankings without regression to the mean suggests that the ranking system doesn’t accurately measure BYU’s talent, which isn’t all that surprising given BYU’s uniqueness. And whether it’s a transfer or a high school kid, I don’t think you can fault BYU if they lose a recruiting battle against a blue blood. It’s the peer schools that worry me. Outside position bottlenecks, BYU generally should not be missing out on LDS talent because of peer schools. I don’t know that anyone really tracks that, but it’s seemed to be less frequent since joining the Big 12. Also, Jake, it would be really cool to hear more about BYU’s strategy on NIL. Yes, it’s got to be spread around more, but there are some exceptions. I don’t think it would be all that crazy to pay more for a top QB, for example. But even that is complicated since football doesn’t have the lottery pick dynamic of basketball. You can’t recruit a kid with high dollars and have him sit the bench to learn and develop under and around guys making way less without serious risk to upsetting team culture. It’s complicated but not impossible.

[@jasonwilcox7027]

BYU Football needs to do the same as BYU Basketball. We need to elevate our recruiting. Sure, we can pull some guys from FCS but we need focus our money and energy on top tier talent. We need to be recruiting higher than any other Big 12 school.

[@JohnnyRocksUFO]

Why are the media covering BYU such apologists? This football staff recruits at a bottom of the BIG 12 level. They can’t recruit, develop and keep QBs on the roster. The team over-performed last year in large part to turnovers, special teams and luck. You would think that would lead to a big jump on the recruiting path. We haven’t seen it yet. If the media and the fans don’t hold the staff accountable they will always recruit FCS talent while we watch 4 stars land at the other big 12 schools. When BYUs competition is always bigger stronger and faster, and completion percentages are barely 50% while struggling to run the ball, most years this will be a 6-6 team at best. That is not competing on a national level and the media should have the balls to say so. It’s their job.

[@jeoffbenzos4959]

I'd love to see Catchings and Boscovic reach their potential. Both those guys have the potential to go for 20+ on any given night.

[@wyattmuirbrook4354]

The floor of byu recruiting has risen but it’s hard to see byu be this good on a consistent basis when they’re recruiting in the bottom 1/3 of the big 12.. they had a good season but this level of success is not sustainable year over year without a jump in talent

[@ThereelBR]

While I'm bugged by BYUs lack of aggressiveness in the transfer portal this "offseason" its obvious the floor of the HS recruits they are bringing in has risen significantly. Gone are the days of BYU bringing in a bunch of 1 and 2 star kids, the vast majority are now mid-high star prospects which undoubtedly raises the floor/depth of the team. I'm concerned with the lack of retooling through the portal of the OL/DL to date. However, let's not forget another portal window opens in the spring. I'll wait to see how it plays out before passing to much judgment. But, I do think they need help on both sides of the line of scrimmage.

[@giffysstiffy887]

BYU has AMAZING HOME GROWN TALENT like Cody Hagen and Parker Kingston 😎🥳Hagen and Kingston are EXTREMELY FAST WIDE RECIEVERS...Hagen and Kingston are from Utah both of them have set SPRINTING RECORDS so BYU will do GREAT in the future and in this bowl game

[@giffysstiffy887]

I will be honest😎🙂...BYU is a football and cultural NIGHTMARE for the loser media and for Colorado and Colorados toxic fans🙂😎 The mainstream media and many people at Colorado are terrified because BYU has WHITE players such as Parker Kingston and Cody Hagen that are WHITE and they have set sprinting records in track and they are FASTER than Colorado players🙂😎 Chase Roberts is doing great also and this scares the people in the media and in Colorado that have a bad agenda

[@ThereelBR]

@giffysstiffy887 What are you talking about lol. I made no mention of WRs in my post...

[@giffysstiffy887]

@@ThereelBR MY comment had NOTHING to do with your frick9n comment😎 I was mak8ng my OWN point and I used your comment because it was at the top of the fruckin page and it would make MY comment more visible!!😎 I did not even read all of your comment....also...your attitude and outlook are STUPID!!!🤮🤡💩🖕🖕"Mid star kids"?!? Chase Roberts, Kingston and Hagen are GREAT TALENTS. You are brainless

[@DavidM442]

Why is BYU recruiting players from lower talent pools? Why not work the transfer portal and bring in proven power 4 players?

[@jeoffbenzos4959]

Proven P4 players are demanding a huge price tag. Kalani's recruiting philosophy is complete opposite of Kevin Young. He doesn't want to throw money at guys who haven't played a snap for BYU while we have players who have grinded for years in our program for nothing.

[@dmtm1111]

⁠@@jeoffbenzos4959That’s an incredible miscalculation on Kalani’s part. If he doesn’t experience a quick 180 he’ll regret it. The NIL and transfer portal has made his ways nearly obsolete.

[@jacobcorbridge4906]

@@jeoffbenzos4959 Basketball recruiting really can’t be compared to football. The budget is spread 5x more thin, and KY simply has recruiting leverage that few coaches in any sport have. I disagree that he just throws money at the best players and they come. It’s clear that the collective has a plan and my hunch is that it is to make basketball a self sustained powerhouse(cheaper, less staff) before turning the attention to football.

[@MichaelHollen]

I can give you 7 million reason BYU signed a top basketball recruit.

[@jiacheng23]

Kyle is probably a good OT and he could even end up being a star at BYU, but he's not ranked as a recruit on 247 and that means fans have no idea how good he is or can be. Right or wrong most fans look at recruiting ratings to decide how optimistic they should be about a class. Most of us have never seen these kids play before. And I think BYU fans may have been hoping for more of an uptick in recruiting in football after a successful season. But it takes time for those good seasons to impact recruiting and the rating system also often wrong. We need to be patient with the current recruits and with BYU improving their recruiting.

[@dmtm1111]

Patience? This is our 3rd 10 plus winning season in 5 years. How much longer before we can expect to see that “uptick”?

[@jiacheng23]

@@dmtm1111 We've seen an uptick every year since BYU was invited to the Big 12 but I think you're asking about a more substantial increase. That might happen this year or the next. I typically think it takes 2-3 years after a special season to see the results in recruiting for that season. It can happen sooner but for BYU I typically expect it to take more time, not less.

[@DaveIge-l6p]

The idea of Colorado playing BYU is great BUT for me the underlying reason that bowl game was made was so 2 of the better Big12,teams would not be playing 2 other teams matched up with a SEC or a Big 10 team and show them up. Kind of like when TCU played Boise state a way back. The SEC and Bug 10 teams and that Bowl committee use that to protect their conference. They get richer. The rest of the conferences get the crumbs.

[@michcoug]

Wow how things have changed.....9 months ago you were telling us that BYU was never going to compete in the Big 12 until they hired and paid position coaches more money. "Do more with more" to quote you. You then spent several episodes telling us that BYU's recruiting dept is horribly understaffed compared to Utah and Utah State and will never reach the next level until they hire more people, because that's how you solve problems, you add more people........ Now you call out some random Bill dude on why he is out "over his ski's" with his silly "Hot take" on the recruiting portal.

[@romebigred2]

Sour, aintcha?

[@principlerobber]

As a Kansas Fan - it would be crazy to expect football to keep up with basketball. Recruiting a team of 85 where you have 30+ contributors and recruiting 13 players having 2-3 be major contributors and 3-4 as a supporting cast, its a different world. Football is so hard to recruit and evaluate talent. There arent national circuits and year round leagues for football. So many 4 and 5 star players never become anything. How many 0 stars and hardly recruited players has BYU brought in that have become staples and day in and out contributors. Zach Wilson, Allgeier, Prassas this year --- this list goes on. If you are mad about missing out on kids from the big 10 or p4 that are 2nd/3rd string over guys who are playing significant minutes outside the p4, then you're out of your mind. We lost a ton of players to the portal in recent years that weren't contributors on our roster then weren't contributors at "lower level" schools. What makes you believe a backup at another school can be a contributor at BYU...

[@jkh2180]

Recruiting at a P4 level is a process. BYU has already made gains on the HS level year on year. Have patience people. They aren't going to be THE destination year 3.

[@stevenmcneely1466]

Many of the highly-ranked players in the portal are FCS players that have proven they are good enough to play at the FBS level. That said, BYU's portal recruiting sucks.

[@ryanahinton]

I understand there are a lower number of great players in fcs, but there are plenty of examples of great NFL players who came through fcs

[@Shaunskee]

In my opinion BYU does vary well in the Portal... Especially in vetting them. In my opinion the best programs are going to bring transfers from the portal only because their highschool recruit isn't developing as fast as expected!!! The best programs in my opinion will use highschool recruits to replace transfers.!?!?!?

[@Kimmer]

Jake, the only way to satisfy some of these complaining clowns will be to fire Kalani and ARod, and then pay Andy Reid to come in and do what Kevin Young is doing! The lack of gratitude and humility is pathetic! I believe these unrealistic people represent a small portion of BYU fans, but they really would be more suited to become Utah fans where at least they could feel less guilty for knocking down a couple of brewskies after a losing season to quell their anger!

[@malaw514]

Come on Jake, the only thing these people want is for Arod to be fired and for Gerry to get a shot. The Sugar Bowl Jake. The Sugar Bowl Jake!!! /s Your comment section has been filled with entitled snobs all season. Love to hear you call em out.

[@dirkpalmer1067]

There are many reasons kids start at lower level, including academics, growth, etc.

[@p_sardar_b]

no they need Khadim Mboup now if they want to challenge in the Big 12

[@jeoffbenzos4959]

Bill is not right. I'd rather have a guy that killed it at a lower level than a highly rated guy out of HS that never lived up to his expectations and never saw the field. Heckard, Collins, Lassiter, Retzlaff, Kelly, Jatta. What do they all have in common? They played in FCS or JUCO. Look at Indiana. They're playing in the playoffs tonight with an FCS head coach and a bunch of FCS players.

[@viccram70]

BYU has no great recruiter on offense and you can see it with the lack of big time signing. You won't unless you bring in someone on offense that will bring big talent, AROD Fesi and Harvey are ok coaches but not recruiting. Offense needs to catch up to the defense.

[@ryanguptill8851]

It’s good to compete in the big 12… but once you get in front of a big 10 or sec team… I don’t think BYU can compete. It becomes a size and strength issue… I think BYU fans are going to have to accept they are still a religious institution. The BYU 84 Natty was a fluke that wouldn’t happen I this era of college football.

[@DGZGSGEGIGKG]

The Cougs were a few series from being undefeated.

[@michcoug]

@@DGZGSGEGIGKG Also a few from being 7-5

[@ThereelBR]

@ryanguptill8851 What ignorance, pretending like the SEC/BIG10 are so far above the ACC/BIG12 is lazy analysis. I will agree that BYU is always going to be limited by the honor code and academic standards.

[@dmtm1111]

@@ThereelBRCoach Young uses the Honor Code as a positive tool. Kalani & his staff need to do the same.

[@ryanguptill8851]

@ lol did you watch the games today? SMU crushed. Clemson Crushed. So you’re saying ASU won’t get crushed?

[@americanhero1234]

So whats BYU's plan to get black athletes in your building🤣🤣🤣

[@bartbutkis]

What? 😂

[@teti_99]

Not to mention, Leusa is better than Connor Pay. 🤷🏾‍♂️