C4 CORVETTE QUIRKS: Top 5 Secrets They Don’t Tell You (Until You Own One!)

[@RetroCarsForever]

CORRECTION- "ASR" (the traction control system in the Corvette) stands for "Acceleration Slip Regulation," not the more typical "Anti Slip Regulation" as I mentioned in the video. I checked my 1996 owner's VHS to verify...Jeff Gordon says it, so can't argue!

[@n8sh4de]

The biggest surprise for me was, how effective the ASR in the C4 is (i own a '95). Its almost an ESP.

[@jakeweisman5517]

Any chance your friend could make another throttle pedal extender?? I'd love to buy one for my 1996 Grandsport so I can heel and toe!

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@jakeweisman5517 Message me your email and I'll you to the list!

[@jakeweisman5517]

@@RetroCarsForever thank you, pm'ed you on IG!

[@ImproV2314]

Are they good for long drives since they run hot?

[@XSpt1]

On my 85 I am the traction control

[@Athena007]

🤣 Hahaha!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Bwahaha! Honestly, I hate traction control. I always turn it off first thing whenever I start my car. Like...I know when my wheels are spinning, thank you very much! I'd MUCH rather be the traction control!

[@sageeiland6003]

Same in my 85 vette😂😂

[@randypecker6995]

@@RetroCarsForever That is because idiots like you like to spin the tires and make smoke. Which is basically the opposite of a true performance car. Even on track the ideal tire slip is between 4 an 5 percent. The maximum potentiial for trip and speed. Not 100% spin. You are a moron. You bought a car to drive 50 feet at a time and wear out tires.

[@milhouse147]

@@randypecker6995 where I'm from people would say "First of all: pull the stick out of Your anus!" Dude relax! It's not about perfect lap times... in a 25 yo car... It's about fun and a driving experience, that You don't get in modern cars.

[@wisenige]

Finally somebody who’s making awesome C4 videos. Thank you bro 💪🏾

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thank YOU! Another corvette video coming out next, it’s turning out great.

[@lucyinthesky288]

Yes

[@pazminoproject]

Some things that many people don't know about without reading the Owner's Manual 1: There's a cargo cover that pulls out to cover whatever you have in the trunk 2: There's a trunk release switch on the edge of the driver's door (the part that closes into the door jam) 3. There's a hidden manual trunk release cable under the hatch that you can use in case the battery dies 4: There is a map light on the bottom of the rear view mirror (very useful because this car doesn't have a dome light) 5. There's a tiny lever on the back of each seat that you can press in order to fold the seats down for extra storage space/easier trunk access (very uncommon in coupes) 6. The armrests on the doors actually lift open to reveal storage pockets 7: The side view mirrors do not fold in :( 8. The AC Delco Bose sound system sounds better than any stock sound system I've ever heard. No joke.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Good ones! I’m working on a follow up video of all the little quirks, most of these are already on the list. Been hearing from many owners who didn’t know many of these!

[@RetroCarsForever]

AC Cobra thankfully there’s a tool you can buy to snag the cable!

[@corvettemode1556]

I agree on that Bose. It sounds amazing!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Corvette Mode agreed, especially for the time period, it sounds great. Even if you play cassette!

[@ericrosen6626]

"The armrests on the doors actually lift open to reveal storage pockets " I think that is 1994 onward... my 1993 definitely does not have them.

[@TysonHugie]

The temp gauge would be unnerving for sure! My favorite feature about your reviews is the little handheld arrow that you use to point things out, haha.

[@RetroCarsForever]

LOL thanks! I haaaate "asking" for people to subscribe, but you sorta have to do it, so I was trying to think of ways to have it done visually without it being too annoying... And then when I had to replace my Corvette's plastic radiator overflow cap, I realized I had a perfect little pointer!

[@gamboaa]

It takes a bit to get used to but still unnerving for sure. Especially when you hit unexpected traffic.

[@calen_chan]

I just bought a 1991 Quasar Blue C4, definitely glad I watched this video as I was concerned about the temperature! Also I found out all those other things in the first week of owning it except the ASR. Great vid!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks! However, keep in mind your car has a different engine (the L98) that has a conventional cooling system. If it’s overheating to the extent you see here with the later LT1 or LT4 engines, there might actually be an issue.

[@chainsawmanny]

@@RetroCarsForever L98 engine normally run around 210-220 mark also I have a LT1 6 speed my temp never goes over 180 I did just buy the car back in august so my guess is it has a different thermostat in it

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@chainsawmanny A LOT of guys with LT1 engines freak out about the temp thing (or aren't aware that it's okay for them to run hot) so they'll put in a different thermostat, make the fans turn on sooner, or replace the radiator. Also note that I only notice temps climbing in my LT4 (pretty much an LT1) during hard stop and go traffic. Otherwise its stays around 180.

[@joeyblazik7990]

Bulshit

[@paulmoss7940]

I follow a lot of C4 videos. I must compliment you on yours. Lots of normally not mentioned info with an interesting angle. The temp info was gold. I have a nice 96 LT4 base car .

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thank you, glad to hear that as this was the goal of the video (to highlight the things I didnt see anyone else talk about, at least in video form).

[@willyhwang1059]

My 95 Camaro Z28 with the LT1 engine, runs hot like you described, and has AC delete. So when it gets too hot in stop and go traffic, I am having to turn on the heater in order to divert some heat from the engine. I try to avoid having the temperature to anywhere near 3/4 on the gauge (allegedly that's when the fans turn on), while it may be designed this way, it still bugs me when it runs that hot.

[@Richard-qz8up]

The gas pedal is offset substantially because there was a time when people were hitting the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal because they were so close together. Or their foot was wide and they would end up pushing the gas pedal along with the brake pedal. GM solved the problem by offsetting the pedals so that when you pressed the brake pedal down as far as you could, it was just level with the gas pedal. 👍

[@RetroCarsForever]

That explains it! But still a shame that they couldnt get the Corvette's pedals right.

[@theblackflag2020]

2005 pontiac gto (yeh I know. It's an import. ) Also does that push back with traction control.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Good to know, thanks!

[@bones40447]

As do my 98 and 02 Z28s. Must be a GM thing.

[@joshualebo6820]

Another one I recently learned was 'Flood Clear'. Pressing the gas pedal all the way down while starting disables the ignition system. Allows you to clear a flooded engine OR allows you to sling some oil before starting the engine.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Yes! C and S Corvettes (a great KZbin resource) covered this.

[@Richard-qz8up]

It doesn't disable the ignition system, it significantly reduces the pulse width of the fuel injectors creating an excessively lean mixture. This allows the flood to clear until the mixture can be ignited at which point you'll lift off the gas pedal. If it shut off the ignition, the engine would never start. Reducing the injector pulse width accomplishes the exact same thing when flooring the gas pedal on a carbureted engine. The choke plate opens as well as all of the throttle blades which decreases the signal at the idle ports resulting in a lean mixture. All GM fuel injected engines have this feature, my 1983 Cavalier with the 2.0L throttle body injected engine had it. An interesting benefit is the engine won't start if you floor the gas pedal and it's not flooded, the mixture is too lean. I taught my daughter that trick in case someone was trying to kidnap/carjack her. You never want to go to where they want, it ends very badly every single time.

[@Richard-qz8up]

Oh yeah, another benefit is when the coolant temperature sensor fails to the cold side telling the ECM to provide a rich cold start mixture. That's ok if it's 10*F outside and the engine is actually cold. But the resulting rich mixture in a warm engine when it's warmer weather guarantees the engine will never start. However, push the pedal to the floor to get the lean mixture and it'll start so you can get home and replace the CTS.

[@petercarey6883]

I'm aware of a lot of the "quirks" you mentioned, but not on how hot they run due to the reverse flow cooling. Also, great detail explaining how the seat belts works. Well done on all accounts RCF! 👍👍 Save the Wave 🙋‍♂

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks so much! (And I love the wave!)

[@petercarey6883]

The Wave is only item that all the Corvette generations carry with them and hopefully it will be maintained for generations yet to come. Stay safe and enjoy your ride.

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@petercarey6883 Thanks, you too!

[@Mako1989]

I can't believe this lol - I have a '89 C4 and I complained out loud to myself just today about being STUCK to my seat because of the seat belt. I had no idea this was a thing for all C4 owners.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Glad I could help! We're all in this together...

[@davidwillis369]

Great video as always! I watch allot of C4 videos and I always find myself kinda "stuck in the middle of a void" due to owning a 90 auto. It is cool having a little old and a little new in the C4 realm. The L98 is a great motor, built like a tank and no optispark. :)

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks! And yeah, to me the 1989 to 1991 models are like funky "crossover years" where major elements slowly got switched over from the early C4s to the later C4s. Neat how every year is so different.

[@davidwillis369]

@@RetroCarsForever , truly. I bought my 90 the middle of last year and it needed a bunch of work. Luckily, I am good with a wrench and have done my fair share of hotrods. I did my research and knew what to bring to the table when I test drove it and I got it for a great price. I have a vision of what it will look like and it will definitely be hard to miss after the widebody and other customs are done. Keep up the great videos! :)

[@josephcottone9613]

I do like the fact that your temperature gauge isn’t “dumbed down”. Many new cars have a temp window of something like 30 degrees where the gauge will stay dead center. It keeps people from panic but I’d prefer accuracy.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Yep know exactly what you mean. Kinda makes sense as most non enthusiasts only ever look at the speedo and the fuel gauge and that’s it! But a proper enthusiasts car needs proper gauges.

[@n8sh4de]

My BMW stays from 70-100 °C in the middle. Didn't notice for a long time that the thermostat was broken and the car doesnt reach even 70 °C (170F) while driving. Total shit, i don't need a needle instrument for that unprecise information.

[@cowlumbus]

@@RetroCarsForever so why does the cooling make one think 185F is normal with that longer line at that value?

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@cowlumbus No clue. Like I said, the coolant gauge is a baffling design. Best guess is 185 is the minimum "normal" operating temp (like when you start the car cold, that's how hot it should be before you start really revving it).

[@nicktocco9728]

I bought a 1993 6 speed. I wish I had known about the CCM module they tried to implement that makes it hard to upgrade to an LS1 for the 93/94 years. And I wish I had known about the dual mass flywheel and the pain in the ass it is to switch to single mass flywheel.. other than that I love the car. Bought it with 60k and no problems til 90k. Now it’s plagued by expensive weekly repairs but I still love it. It is 27 years old after all.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Fair enough...But the way I see it, if you gotta have an LS1, just buy a C5!

[@tomster7574]

I was surprised about the turning radius. I have 1991E 30 BMW and an 88 Mustang that both turn surprisingly small circles. Even smaller than my old 1988 Honda Civic. And my Mustang seatbelt is damn annoying for the exact opposite reason where it keeps getting loose and won’t tighten up until I pull it to let snapback. I just bought a 96 vette convertible Long distance and still waiting for transport to arrange pick up to bring it to me. Can’t wait :-)

[@RetroCarsForever]

Seems every old Mustang I've driven had that weird floppy seat belt issue. Congrats on the new Vette!

[@tomster7574]

@@RetroCarsForever thank you :)

[@danielmcgraw7908]

I also have a 96 with the LT4. If you haven't experienced an issue with the power brake boost, you might want to invest in a spare. I lost this entire season, I live in upstate NY, to the inability to acquire a replacement/rebuilt unit. I've been lead to believe that they can be hard to find.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Hmm haven't heard of that. A quick search shows a ton of those available online. How many miles did your car have when it went?

[@hpinut]

Cool thing I found out about the c4 Corvettes from working on them. The targa tool can be converted into a normal snap on 1/4 drive ratchet

[@RetroCarsForever]

Heh, cool!

[@ricksgarage8069]

I have a '94 6 speed convertable and after watching your video, I may have the answer to a quirk the car has. When accererating out of a turn such as exiting a traffic circle, I feel a strange motion in the gas pedal. I used to have a transmission shop and a symptom like this usually ment the engine was shifting due to a broken motor or transmission mount. I went to a great deal of trouble pulling the engine mounts and checked all the suspension bushings to find nothing wrong. It reminds me of when I bought the car and knew nothong about "skip shift". I swore it was a bad second gear syncro ring. I'll turn off the ASR and see if the symptom disappears. -Thanks

[@RetroCarsForever]

Yes that definitely sounds like ASR! And I confirmed that’s how it should work from an owners vhs. Thrilled if I helped you here, that was my biggest aim with this video!

[@stevetomkiewicz621]

Will soon be buying my first Corvette, a nice yellow ‘96, and until I watched your video today, never realized the gas filler was in the middle of the ‘trunk’! Thanks for all the points in your various videos, they will certainly come in handy (especially the one about getting in & out correctly!).

[@RetroCarsForever]

Happy to help, best of luck picking up the 1996 (it's my favorite year and the one I own). You might've seen it already, but here's another Quirks video I did that covers even more of the C4 weirdness...kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmOQYWl8l6qErqM

[@keepamerica2astrong280]

@@RetroCarsForever Hey from the South Carolina Coast. Love your channel bro. I have a 64 StingRay L76 motor 327 365hp Muncie close ratio 4 speed all matching numbers 40,100 miles documented. Mint. I also have a 2007 3LT Z51 and just picked up yesterday a mint 96 LT1 White with red interior. 30k miles Been watching all your vids on the C4s. 96 the best year for the C4s. Thanks and keep the vids coming...

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@keepamerica2astrong280 Thank you! That's an amazing Corvette collection you have.

[@Specz187]

Great video dude. I've had my black 94 lt1 6 speed for 5 years. Knew about the useless cup holders instantly when shifting to reverse lol also terrible turning radius. Found the cinch button months ago. Had to google it. What I didn't know was the coolant temp. Mine has an aftermarket fan system with a toggle switch I always would turn on when the gauge neared the max. A co-worker who has a c5 vette says the same thing about his overheating like say waiting in line at a fast food joint. They definitely need more clear gauges.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks! Yeah the coolant temp guages and just how hot these are designed to run really confuse people. IMO they should've designed the gauges themselves to make it clear that running 225 is okay!

[@richcarrCCC]

Well done, great editing and content... THANKS! (I hit "like" the first time 'round but came back to comment and, of course, SUBSCRIBE! lol) OH, and one more thing, beautiful CE C4!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thank you so much! Hugely appreciate the kind words about the car and the support of the video.

[@geoffmooregm]

Of all the manual cars I have owned my 93 Sonoma was the best for heel/toe downshifting. The other option to get your pedals right is to install an adjustable brake pushrod. People also take the brake pedal out and bend it to the left or right to get it just how they like it.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Wow, a 93 Sonoma was the best for heel and toe? I'm surprised! I've found my old Mazda Miata or BMW Z3 were the best for that.

[@michaeljordan6008]

The lines on those first C4s are perfect, so clean. Your 96 Collectors is the nicest of the later models.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks! I think all c4 are gorgeous but I am partial to the smoother look of the later models (more for nostalgia than anything else). I love how c4s are so clean and uncluttered, they instead rely on their stance and proportions to show their sportiness instead of angry swoops and streaks and spoilers.

[@Gotmath8]

Great content - you got the sub. I'd love to see an analysis of the ZF 6 speed. I just bought a base LT4 and it really does whine - especially in 6th going down the highway on cruise. The forums say it is common/normal. I'd love to know if anyone has found a way to quiet it down.

[@RetroCarsForever]

I’d say there’s a very light whine in mine but not too bad. Apparently they can get worse in high mileage cars. The real trick is when it comes time to replace the flywheel...sourcing the weird dual mass flywheels is very tricky, and single mass can be noisier. How many miles does your car have? In any case, appreciate the sub! New C4 video coming soon.

[@Gotmath8]

@@RetroCarsForever So mine is around 92k miles. Sounds like I need a ZF expert to look at it.

[@rubyred93chev]

_Well spirited driving in your LT4 Corvette! Although somewhat antiquated by today's standards, the ASR was designed for those who may have never driven a Corvette briskly, (yet it's a great safety system on the '92 to '96 C4s). All cool points in your video for sure (and spot on). Two fourth gens ago, I also drove a coupe with the ZF - 6 Speed LT4(super fun to drive). Today I have the same car(same color) but in an automatic transmission in convertible guise. Always on the look out for another 1996 with the LT4._

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thank you! Dont get me a wrong, I'm a fan of ASR and appreciate how advanced it was for the time. I REALLY appreciate it when I hand over the keys to someone else who maybe isnt used to the power. Good luck finding an LT4! They are quickly becoming collectors items.

[@pilotwhale]

Asr, is the only thing that makes this car safe ,with a 6 speed, i will tell you. Do not. Turn it. Off...

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@pilotwhale I feel like that's true for most people. But decades of driving with "spirit" have given me good enough "butt sensors" to know when the car is slipping and when to back off of the gas myself.

[@georgehgordy1690]

225 degrees is too hot for any car considering 212 degrees is boiling... I own a 96 LT4 with 79,950 miles, last time i checked.. You have a small window from the motor is extremely warm to oh shit the heads are warped & every rod bearing is about to spin along with the main bearings because my oil now has the viscosity of water.. And a crank is never supposed to make contact with the bearings, it's supposed to ride on a thin layer of oil so it doesn't do that.. At 225 degrees your oil is pretty damn thin no matter the weight or how you cut it.... That 225-230 degree DANTE'S INFERNO Fifth Circle of Hell was done for one purpose.... Wait for it....... So the car would pass the required emissions.. I love my Lt4 but it and the LT1 just run too hot... You are kind of stuck with not being able to have the ECM reprogrammed so the cooling fans have to stay at 225 degrees... I had mine tuned to kick on at 180 degrees.. Runs a lot better with more power & that's with just the cooling fans adjusted ( motor doesn't get heat soaked ) If you want a good $400 investment Ecklers Corvette Hypertech Power Programmer lll for the 96 LT1/LT4 old stock ( Hypertech discontinued that model a few years ago but Ecklers still have some left ) You can hook it up to the OBD2 port to set the cooling fans yourself, just the fans if you want or also add a mild tune to your LT4 and when you take it for emissions inspection you can reset everything back to the factory settings with the push of a button... When you get home you can set everything back the way you had it just as quick... Sure you can send the ECM to someone to have it tuned but you'll have to send it to them to have it set back to factory settings once a year or buy a spare ECM that's tagged to your vin so you can swap them out.. 230 degrees is just too hot for any car, reverse cooling or not...

[@jarmominkkinen2450]

Have 1996 LT4 Z51 Vortech kompressor.1500km 1 oner.This car are like New...500whp. (Gear box 6 speed ZF)

[@RetroCarsForever]

Wow, that's one fast C4!

[@gizzmo5952]

As I don't drive my 86 pace car in the winter, I have deleted the thermostat, my vette runs at 170 to 190 during the hottest summer day. Temp outside is 106, car is running at 180. I do hate the cinch feature, and see no use in it. Mine doesn't have the traction control. Other then that, I love my little ragtop vette.

[@TofersCarTales]

Always loved this gen Corvette and wasn't aware of a single one of these quirks. The seat belt and temp gauge items in particular are real head scratchers. But... this is GM after-all. Keep up the awesome work my friend. Love it!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks man. Someone else had the theory with the temp gauge that the design of the gauge was a holdover from an earlier car with a different engine...DEFINITELY sounds like something a cash-strapped early 90s GM would do, doesnt it? Seeya soon!

[@TofersCarTales]

@@RetroCarsForever lol yeah I was thinking that gauge was probably a leftover as well. I do love that gen in silver. Congrats on finding such a clean example. Cya soon!

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@TofersCarTales Thanks...Truth be told I wasn't dead set on the silver Collector Edition (I was looking at a few other colors too), it just happened to be the right Corvette for sale at the right time from the right seller, with the right options and price! As time has gone on I appreciate the "stealth" look of it, plus SO EASY to keep clean!

[@sdcoinshooter]

I am glad I watched this about the temperature, I thought my 95 had something wrong with it and was about to install an electric water pump and dual core radiator.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Feel free to make those mods if it makes you feel better. But as long as it’s just getting a bit hot like this in stop and go traffic, and you’re using fresh coolant and you’ve checked that the bottom air intake is gummed up...you’re probably fine!

[@FrietjeOorlog]

In my '86, turning the pull-knob for the headlights changes the dash brightness. But turning it past the click makes the interior cabin lights come on. Maybe this is normal for all 80's GM but I didn't know. So that was a 'huh' moment. About the big turning radius: 180's are but a turn of the wheel and a mash of the throttle away ;)

[@RetroCarsForever]

That's how many American cars had their light switch knobs back in the day, Ive had several cars that were like that (completely different design in later years like mine). And can attest to the effectiveness of your 180 tactic!

[@ednaslayton4723]

@@RetroCarsForever glad to know about the temp gage I got worried when my temp gauge went over to 200 I thought my car was over heating but it wasn't

[@ednaslayton4723]

It's a 96 c4 with 83 thousand miles

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@ednaslayton4723 Yep, happened to me too, thats why I put it in the Secrets Quirks video!

[@carguy99]

Having owned over 75 vehicles in my lifetime (2 of them C3 Corvettes) I am starting to appreciate the look of the C4 more and more. Thanks for the video.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks! I've owned about 1/3rd of what you have, that's a LOT of cars that you've owned! C4s are some of my all time favorite designs. Clean and uncluttered yet sporty and purposeful.

[@itz_just_donavan]

The quality you put into your videos is amazing!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks so much!

[@chrisshamaly9472]

I have a '96 Collector Edition convertible with Lingenfelter tuned motor (done before John Lingenfelter died) and 28,000 miles. It's basically a show car, but super fast and super fun to drive. The C4 is a great car and is starting to really look like a classic.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Awesome car! And agreed about the great looks of these C4s, a big reason I bought one. They REALLY stand out in modern traffic, a design from a completely different era.

[@Athena007]

03:51 - this is to help the Corvette “take your breath away”! 😉

[@RetroCarsForever]

LOL. That explains it! Engineers saw Top Gun and wanted to get those extra little "fighter jet" details inside...

[@AiOinc1]

The traction control system in my 93 DeVille (Option NW9) is brake only. No throttle control. It will use the ABS channels to pulse the brakes.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Makes sense. Pretty sure that's how MOST traction control systems of the era worked. Having any throttle control was pretty advanced back then.

[@raspucin70]

Both of my 4th gen Camaro z28 ('01 and '02 SS) would push back when wheel spin is detected

[@RetroCarsForever]

Ive been hearing that! Wonder how long the Corvette kept that feature.

[@blackrat1228]

I think that's the only way you can do traction control on a throttle cable set up. The cruise control worked the same way, it relied on a motor to modulate the pedal back and forth under your feet. Once cars became throttle by wire all that stuff was handled by the computer.

[@RetroCarsForever]

blackrat1228 that’s not the case. I’ve owned and driven a number of other cars that had cable operated throttles with traction control that didn’t “push” on the pedal like the Corvette does.

[@blackrat1228]

@@RetroCarsForever interesting. Did the cruise control work the same way? Throttle modulated to maintain set speed while the pedal stayed motionless? I've only had one throttle cable car with cruise control, all others have been throttle by wire. Maybe the direct connection to the pedal was a GM thing while other companies had a type of clutch so the pedal didn't react.

[@RetroCarsForever]

blackrat1228 I believe cruise control would physically move the gas pedal on every car I’ve had with a throttle cable, including my Corvette.

[@mikecronis]

I think 4th Gen F-bodies had a similar ASR system, as did the TCS on Federal Lotus Elise models if equipped.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Yes, been getting a lot of comments on the F-bodies. Though first I've heard of the Lotus Elise!

[@skyguy6573]

I had 2 C4s, an 86 and a 95. I think the weirdest quirk for me was the parking brake set down on the floor at the left side of the driver's seat. Who came up with that debacle? Functionality of that thing was terrible.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Super weird quirk for sure...Less weird if you're familiar with vintage English cars, that also have the same design. I've gotten used to it over time, and THANK GOD it can go down when it's engaged, otherwise getting in and out would be even MORE of a pain! But it's definitely something I have to explain to anyone driving it for the first time.

[@C4Gixxer]

That throws off the state inspection people here in Massachusetts every year.... they never know how to release it

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@C4Gixxer LOL!

[@Pavel128]

I have an 1989 and one day I had trouble pulling it up and like an idiot I pulled too hard and broke the assembly. The cable broke off this plastic groove holding it in place, had to reinstall it but now the cable seems wound too tight :( Making the parking brake still unusable, no clue what caused it.

[@D3rpp00l]

The Fiero has it there as well. Weird for sure, but wouldn't trade either car for the world. Have an 85 Fiero and an 86 Vette.

[@onedef92]

Don't forget the tiny light bulb near the spare tire compartment under the car. It also serves as a courtesy light when the hatch or doors are open and looks cool as feck at night. You can upgrade it to LED for increased illumination. 😎

[@RetroCarsForever]

Such a weird little quirk! Don't know of too many other cars that have that.

[@scubasteve31583]

Got a C5, I don't have any of these "quirks" but I enjoyed the video.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks! Yeah c5s are a lot less weird than the c4s. They’re much more logical, straight forward machines!

[@vtwinpower1903]

I also have a c5 zo6 supercharged with meth injection n coil overs on all 4 corners. 10.1 et 140mph!

[@truck-kun5924]

Hey man ı was researching for some corvette... Things? Not really sure how to tell hope you understand. I have 2 questions. 1 ı read some things about tires. Like you have to replace it when you buy car. And this tires is so hard and expensive to get. Is it really that bad? I plan to do some drifting and it's worn out tires pretty fast. You know. And secondly is this car have a turbo or not? İ researched but can't find the answer for some reason. I really hate turbos. Yeah ı love more POWER but this lag really annoying me. I prefer atmospheric engines or superchargers. And thanks for the video. Now ı know some more things. Like I'm %100 percent gonna replace the seat belts from an another car. And the pedal thing is really a good idea. Gotta do that too. Good video by the way.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks! No turbos on almost all C4 Corvettes (except for the ultra rare Calloway twin turbo versions). I know a guy who drifts his mostly-stock C4 all the time and seems to have a blast. Power is VERY linear with no surprises, so it's a great option for that. As for tires, you're a bit limited in choices, but they're not hard to find. Replacing them when you get the car is usual just because rubber in tires only last six or so years, and a lot of C4's just sit around and the owners dont think about the age of the tires, they just look at the tread and assume its good.

[@pontiacmaniac7772]

My 95’ Firebird has the seatbelt problem too. I launched it in first and my belt tightened like a ratchet strap

[@RetroCarsForever]

Interesting! I test drove a 95 Camaro before going with my Corvette last year, dont recall that issue. Then again, I wasnt driving very fast (owner was in the car with me).

[@terryduncan5718]

The "cinch" button is designed to work that way to hold you in the seat for people that know how to drive a sports car...l used mine all the time...read your manual...

[@pontiacmaniac7772]

Terry Duncan 95’ bird doesn’t have a cinch button

[@mkernen]

I restored a 93 and found lots of "quirks and features" (as Doug would say). The most annoying one was the failure of the heater core which forced the car off the road because the previous owner didn't understand why the windows kept fogging up. He drove the car with the finely misted coolant being fog getting to 100% of the interior (and his lungs! YIKES!) ruining the carpet even in the hatch area, and adding a sticky layer of antifreeze to everything inside. I tore out the whole interior to clean and replace the carpet and seat coverings. While it turned out beautifully, changing that heater core took me all of 11 hours, not counting the interior restoration! I heard that it is said that the C4 begins life as a heater core and the rest of the car gets built around it!

[@nomakewan]

Thanks for this video! I especially appreciate covering the coolant temp thing since I can confirm it freaked me out on my first C4 as well. ASR is “acceleration slip regulation,” though. ;) Still jealous of your LT4!

[@RetroCarsForever]

You're very welcome! I FOR SURE freaked out a bit on the coolant temperature thing when I first drove my car through traffic. As for ASR's meaning...OMG you're totally right!! (Slaps face) I'll make a pinned post to correct that one LOL

[@RetroCarsForever]

Pinned post with your credit!

[@nomakewan]

Practical Car Guy As a side bit, the gauge on the ZR-1 does work as you would expect; it uses standard cooling, operates at temperatures people expect, and the analog gauge sits in the middle under normal operation. My guess as to why the LT1 gauge doesn’t is because the gauges themselves were already in use by the L98 and LT5 so GM got lazy and reused them rather than redesigning.

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@nomakewan Interesting, was curious how the ZR1 dealt with that...Do you own one? I like your theory on the LT1s gauge...Def sounds like something GM would do!

[@nomakewan]

Practical Car Guy Nah, no ZR-1 here. But watched plenty of driving and racing footage here on KZbin, as well as the VHS owner’s manual videos. Noticed their gauges are nice and centered. I can’t say for sure but I bet the 90-91 L98 gauges are too.

[@fatboysgarage7984]

I've got a 74 Corvette and one of the things that surprised me the most is the lack of engine bay space. How they ever put a 454 in one is beyond me.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Ive seen that engine bay at a car show before...And agreed, stunning they stuffed it in there!

[@watchamovie1000]

Dude, I love your C4 videos. I’ve had a ‘95 convertible for about a year and I’m totally obsessed with it. I bought it not knowing that there’s no glovebox or [real] trunk. Still, so rad. It’s 100% the most underrated sports car value.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks so much! (Got another C4 vid coming out Wednesday that I bet you'll appreciate...) Yeah Convertibles dont have much in the way of space to put things, but they are drop dead gorgeous with the top down. And you're right...C4s are insane performance bargains right now, despite their negatives.

[@yomuno2511]

Great content. My third video of the night! My 95 purchased new is a driver for sure with over a quarter million miles. The ASR feedback used to scare the heck out of me. The turning radius is huge, The Corvette finally got to pasture when I purchased a manual shift 2014 Chevy Spark. That little car can do a Uturn on a two lane road! One other feature that is now common place today is passive keyless entry/exit. My 95 has it, I think it began in 93. It was many years later before other cars had it.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks for watching! That little spark does sound fun in it’s own way.

[@ryanphaup5932]

I also daily my 96 collector's edition! I would say something that surprised me after I bought it was the "secret compartment" behind the passenger seat. I found a bag of tools in there from two owners back!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Nice bonus! That little area is super useful, esp as our later cars dont have gloveboxes. It even has a little "prop" to keep it open. I did have to figure out what the other little trapdoor next to it was, as its an extra cubby in earlier C4s...Turns out thats where they put the ABS system components (you can unscrew it for easier servicing there). Tell me about your CE! LT1? Z51? Coupe or Convertible? Interior color? Love these things!

[@ryanphaup5932]

It's an LT-1, coupe, Gray interior, 110k on the clock, salvaged title. I wasn't looking for a c4, but this popped up at a price I couldn't refuse. Decided to upgrade from my 2003 Camry. So glad I did. I'm not worries about damaging it too much, because it's already been totaled. You couldn't tell though.

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@ryanphaup5932 Quite a bit more fun than a Camry! It sounds like you have a really fun driver...maybe not a collectible but who cares? You can drive it hard and pile on the miles without any guilt.

[@ryanphaup5932]

Exactly! These cars were made to be driven. I'm not saving anything for the next guy. Still, I don't beat her up too much. It's my wallet and time that will be used to fix her 😂

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@ryanphaup5932 Mine's actually sorta worth something (only 33k miles), so I try to straddle that line between driving it "with spirit" but never outright abusing it. But I do love dailying it...Makes any commute so much more fun.

[@giorgiocisilino4874]

there was a GM safety recall on c4 corvette seatbelt extractors,causing the belt to lock up then you cannot exit the vehicle.

[@RetroCarsForever]

TRUE, but it only covers certain years (I want to say a few of the early 90s model years).

[@marcelromijn2227]

I have a 1988 with ABS; the thing that freaks people out is that just after driving off the ABS unit does a selftest which you can feel in the brake pedal (and can hear as the unit is just behind the drivers seat). It's not unique to Corvette's but rather a feature of this specific generation of ABS. Since it is quite rare however people don't know it. More modern generations still do the self test but you can't feel or hear it. Other things; the parking brake ratchet mechanism or the fact (I'm in Europe) that is has front fog lights but no rear fog light, cornering lights and seatbelts only cinch when exposed to G-forces... all of them have been issues during technical inspection. But mostly as inspectors aren't used to US cars.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Excellent quirk, might have to include that in a future video. I also wondered what the thrumming sound was behind my head not long after startup, until I researched it and figured it out.

[@Kraigmire]

There was a concept car called the CERV III (I think that is Chevrolet Engineering Research Vehicle) that I read about in 1990. It had this active system that would increase the stiffness of the gas pedal the closer you got to breaking traction. This was a feedback mechanism to help the driver stay just at the limit of maximum acceleration without spinning the wheels. I wonder if the ASR pushes back on the gas pedal because it is related to this system.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Great memory! I’m sure you’re right, the timing fits perfectly for a simpler system to be installed in 1992. I actually saw that concept car in person back in the day, gorgeous car.

[@Kraigmire]

@@RetroCarsForever And it was a mid-engine car intended to pioneer the way for future corvettes. I wish I could have seen this car in person like you did.

[@Falcon-jv4he]

I used to own a 1990 Ford Thunderbird which had the same traction control system. Except in the Ford when driving around tight corners it would either accelerate for me which meant the pedal actually came out from under my foot or decelerate depending on road conditions and push the pedal back into my foot. I was amazed at that when it first started happening cuz I never knew anything about it. But I have to admit the system worked amazingly well. In any case love the video thanks for showing

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thank you! I owned a 1991 Mercury Cougar (did a review of it here)- kzbin.info/www/bejne/naTFfZV4brVpo5o BUT mine didn't have any traction control. Did you have an SC?

[@gustavobanharadorettopadov9920]

Man the video is very useful!! I have a 94 ZF6 and was worried about the temp. Thank you!

[@stevelacina582]

I’ve been lucky to have had two Vettes, a red ‘88 and a pewter ‘99. The C4 was my favorite but it had a lot of miles on it when I bought it and more problems than I needed. Even after I changed the stock L98 into a bored-out 383 with a new cam I still had lots to fix. When the electrical system starting giving me problems I sold it and bought a low mileage C5. I drove that car nearly every day for eight years. I’d like to buy a new 2021 Corvette but I consider myself lucky to have had two.

[@RetroCarsForever]

I could def see myself owning another Corvette (likely C5 or C6) someday. I'd REALLY LOVE to have a C8, but I'll wait about twenty years once it's depreciated enough to garner my interest!

[@jeffersongraves5295]

If you have wide feet you can heel toe in name only but just have the ball of your foot on the brake and use your pinky toe. The 3D spacer is a good idea but I’d be worried it would slip under the brake pedal. If you want to turn the traction control and anti lock brakes off for a track day but don’t want the light on and the sensitive antilock brakes, just unplug the module behind the divers seat.

[@jeffersongraves5295]

I should also note that the L98 had an external oil cooler and one reason for the reverse flow cooling system was to do away with the external oil cooling. So now the heads act like a heat sink for the oil and takes forever to warm up in the winter.

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@jeffersongraves5295 Great info, didn't know that about the oil cooler/reverse flow reasoning, or the unplugging idea. Does that trip the light still? Before getting the gas pedal spacer on, I tried that (using pinky toe)...It CAN be done, but difficult when you're really hustling, especially if your steering wheel is set low. I've had the spacer on for months, and even under hard driving, hasnt once come loose. Our backup plan was to drill some holes through the sides and zip tie it to the pedal for extra security, but it just hasn't been needed. Also, seems to make even daily driving easier!

[@jeffersongraves5295]

Practical Car Guy light stays off, mines unplugged because I need to replace the control module (servo) and it’s being a pain. So I’m driving like it’s 1985 in a 1993

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@jeffersongraves5295 Awesome. I'm a fan of ABS (tho I dont drive off road or on a track), but I've never really needed traction control wasn't needed. My "butt accelerometer" is decent enough to feel when I've floored it too long!

[@jeffersongraves5295]

Practical Car Guy definitely a fan of antilock brakes but got my first taste of winter driving in the snow in an 89 probe. No assists and to top it off I had very bald tires, like ripples where you could see where tread might be bald. So when people tell me my corvette isn’t a winter car I laugh because everything is a winter car. Top tip if anyone reading has never driven in snow or learning and hasn’t got stuck in the rain. It doesn’t matter how fast you can get moving, but how fast can you stop.

[@BiBh375]

I just bought an 89 yesterday and almost had reservations because of the temps on the test drive and after some research my fears went away. Would DEFINITELY have liked to know about the weird handbrake though as I probably wore out the rear brakes on both the test drive and drive home. Still I think I got a good deal on the car and it's low miles and pretty nice. Also, my first car was a 94 Camaro Z28 6 speed which had an ASR light but the Camaro didn't actually get the system until 95 so it was just an unused warning light on the dash in 94.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Yeah handbrake is weird if you're not familiar with British cars that have that design. Hope you've figured it out! Interesting to know about the Camaro ASR system, and when that came into effect. As for the temp of you car, keep in mind 1989 had a completely different engine (L98) than the LT1/LT4s that had the reverse coolant flow system, so I can't speak to what normal with those.

[@BiBh375]

@@RetroCarsForever from what research I did I found it's kinda just a C4 and C5 thing. My manual even has the information about it underlined. I'm guessing a previous owner had concerns about it too. I'm not too sure if the L98 is reverse flow or not. Also, my Camaro with the LT1 ran down around/below boiling (forget the exact temp) and always sat in the middle of the gauge when I didn't have something wrong which is interesting since it's the same engine and similar radiator exposure but the Camaro/Firebird did have a few other differences in the motor as did the Caprices and such so maybe they weren't set up to withstand the higher temperatures I'm not sure.

[@BiBh375]

@@RetroCarsForever and about the handbrake I had originally thought it was broken and then after looking in the manual I didn't quite know what it meant but I realize it might not have been broken but I might've wasted some brake pad. I tried messing with it again and still couldn't figure it out. Then I happened to see somebody operate it in another KZbin video about a C4 and that got me to realize what I was doing wrong.

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@BiBh375 Glad you got it figured out. In any case congrats on the new C4 purchase! Stay tuned...Planning on more videos to help C4 owners get to know their cars better.

[@CoolStuffInWeirdCars]

Very interesting stuff! Even though they're known to not be reliable/cheap to maintain, I'd love to find an earlier 4+3 manual C4, since I actually drove one back in the day haha. Good video!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thank you! Those 4 plus 3s are one of the weirdest transmissions I've ever driven. I personally disliked it and found it confusing and clunky, MUCH prefer the ZF 6 speed in 1989 and later cars. The 4 plus 3 was actually SLOWER than the auto of the time in just about every test too! But, Doug Nash is great if you want something funky or nostalgic!

[@MinnesotaAdam420]

I have one 85

[@macqoywalker6058]

There is the same cinch mechanism in the 1984 base model as well

[@RetroCarsForever]

Good to know!

[@herkloader34]

Pretty accurate list. The most annoying thing on my old ‘93 when I had it was that pain in the ass OptiSpark distributor. That was cause the car to buck like bull at various times.

[@akitadog01]

VERY good to learn these things, as my 1996 LT4 is being shipped to me this week. Thanks for the public service announcements!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Happy to help! Make sure to check out the other helpful videos on this channel. And ENJOY your LT4!

[@richardputman3506]

Your videos make me want to drive my Black 95 C4 LT1 more. I’ve had it since ‘99 when I was 29. Currently It only has 51k miles on it. My most recent fix was replacing gas tank. Bladder broke and I think my spare tire rubbed a hole. Bought aftermarket one, red coated the inside, and had dealer install it.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Glad I can inspire anyone to get out and drive these wonderful cars!

[@CoastalAutoReactionCAR]

Glad to have found ya! Subscribed check us out and our friends at Auto Auction Rebuilds

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks!

[@truck-kun5924]

How much is this thing cost? I want buy one and want know more about it?

[@RetroCarsForever]

Normal C4s in good condition and lower miles will run you $8k to $14k. Mine has a bunch of super rare options that puts it closer to the $20k. Grand sports or zr1s will go for the 20k-30k range. You can buy crappy c4s for much lower than 8k but you’ll spend a lot just getting it to a good level. My advice is to save up for the best one you could afford. Good luck!

[@truck-kun5924]

@@RetroCarsForever ok thanks and ı watched your other videos and heard a few things about steering wheel. You say it can break while getting in or out of the car. I understand this but what about driving? İs it can broke while steering or driving? If it is can I reinforce it? I don't want it getting broken while driving. And second ı plan to put a large wing and some other stuff like a rear tire cover like some old cars covers half of the tire. What do you think can ı did it? It's allready look awesome but ı really like 2 thins about cars. Pop up headlights and big wings. İf ı buy something look that cool its need a wing. Or ı think so. (sory for bad English)

[@TravisRichey]

I can honestly say I didn't know ANY of these things about the Corvette. I would like to have known what's different between how the seatbelt tensioner works here vs a regular car, and why it's different. Why doesn't it release?? ~Trav

[@RetroCarsForever]

I have no clue why the Corvette's belts dont release...Frankly it's maddening! If anyone knows, please comment here!

[@danielmckenzie6858]

Corvette is a practical car what you talking about, i get young women that beg for a ride and after i tell them my requirements there down for it, my gf is 32 and i am 52 as of yesterday, and life never been better for me and my sex life!

[@johnrodriguez3626]

Am sorry what does 1 to fourth shift mean

[@RetroCarsForever]

It’s the infamous 1 to 4 skipshift that most GM 6 speeds have had for decades that started with the C4. I go into more detail in my other quirks video here- kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmOQYWl8l6qErqM

[@sannissansanjuan5074]

The ASR Foot Kick back heard that alot back in 92 & up Corvettes, The Modern car that Fly by Throttle The Infiniti M37 M56 Throttle kicks back if Front Radar thinks were Closing in to Close or anti Tailgate or Traction control Condition,

[@scottmerrill6214]

I had and loved a 92 6 speed. I wish I knew about the temp gauge, it created unnecessary anxiety. Quirks? What quirks? The cup holders, parking brake location, ride control actuators, Bose speakers pointed at your feet, opti spark, peeling clear on wheels, floppy door panels, headlight motors, tire pressure sensors, weird brake pump noise at start and loss of body stiffness with t top out.(only removed it once. 4 bolts what?)I would do it all again.

[@theaccountant5133]

That ASR "kickback" will unnerve you, especially the first time it happens. You wonder what the hell is happening to the car. It works well though. Just disable the ASR and try the same thing. You will think you are in a 1963 Split-window Corvette on gravel. I know that feeling too! You're sideways before you can blink.

[@markbouldin6513]

I have a blue 96 with 6 speed and 70k on it, I think I disconnected the ASR under the car at the transmission soon after buying the car in 97..... If I remember the throttle petal bout spring my foot pulling out at an intersection..... Hope someone doesn't tell me the car is toast after I disconnected it 26 year's ago..... I'm surprised I don't see any mention of the water pooling up in the exterior corners of the hatch.... I know they market drain tubes I've seen advertised that looked a bit cheesy so I just used 5/16 or maybe 3/8 black fuel line drilling a hole in both corners whereas the fuel hose fit snug through the holes with some trim adhesive or rtv and trimmed the top of the hose with an exzacto knife to match the contour around it and it evacuates the water really well even creates a siphon when the car is washed..... Recently replaced the headliner for 50 buck's in oem material off ebay 35 for the foam backed material and 15 for the headliner spray adhesive...... Couple year's ago the car started skipping and after some research and much dread I tore into the opti spark finding that the wp was weeping along the way, so replaced the wp, seals hoses, coil, plugs, wires, distributor and serpentine belt and changed out the power steering fluid along the way while almost exceeding my novice mechanic skills..... There again I'm convinced you could do your own kidney transplant via you tube video...... I've never regretted buying the car albeit sure rode better in the nineties......

[@nickbaker7887]

I like that you main a corvette. I like that you're older than me. I like that you're not TOO older than me. I like that you wear n64 shirts. And I like that you have a c4. We have alot in common. Let me buy you a beer.

[@cjbreit2806]

I rented a new Cadillac Deville in 1998, maybe 99, and it's traction control pushed back on the accelerator pedal too. I found out that if you pushed back really hard against it, the car gave up and just let you be a fool.

[@vomErsten]

ASR? **laughs in 1990 ZR-1** Also, pro-tip: pretty much any aftermarket alternator you get for an LT5 is not going to fit correctly. First, you are going to run into an issue with different pulley sizes resulting in the factory size belt not fitting correctly; OEM pulley is 2.5 inches, a lot come with 2.2 inch pulleys. Second, if you bought a late revision CS144 with an impeller instead of a fan, the disc that covers the impeller will rub the airhorn and wear a groove into it. Third, even if you clear those other issues and even if you sourced a remanufactured OEM part, the size of the housing has changed and it does NOT line up with the rest of the accessory drive; without placing 3 mm of offset shims to push it outward, the belt will come off of the drive on start-up with the air horn off or it will be rubbing against the air horn as it tries to come off, all contributing to premature wear.

[@Richard-qz8up]

All GM cars with electric cooling fans will run at those temperatures, the ECM doesn't start ramping up the fans until 225*F (one fan on at high speed) and has both fans on going high speed at 238*F. Operating at higher coolant temperatures has nothing to do with the reverse cooling system. However, GM was able to run a higher compression ratio since the lowest temperature coolant went to the heads first.

[@rollin15733]

Thanks for the info on the temperature thing. I was freaking out all the time til the fans kicked in and it cooled off. THought something was wrong.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Happy to help!

[@tonyunderwood9678]

Think for a moment here. Temp gauge too far towards the alarm region? Do you know the engine runs better at 160-180 degrees? Also did you know that it's fitted from the factory with a hot thermostat for smog purposes? The engineering guys in the know at the factory could be thinking that anyone who bought a C4 with the hot thermostat would know why it was there and they'd expect the savvy owner to swap it out for a cooler one, which will Put The Needle In The Middle Of The Gauge. :-) And, the car will run better. And I never had any issues with the inertia rolls in mine. Likewise the gas pedal. I have big feet and when the right foot is on the brake it's usually so close to the gas pedal that if I lift off the gas and plop my foot down on the brake suddenly without thinking it will also plop back down onto the gas pedal. I have to stay on top of that... and the adage remains: In a C4 you fall into it and you climb out of it. Getting in, ass on the side rail and then slide over, and when getting out it's right elbow on the A-pillar left hand on the door jamb and pry yourself up and out like exiting a manhole, which in effect is what you're doing. Don't pry on the steering wheel, not necessary.

[@calumhamiltonthelord4423]

My C4 needs a lot of work but I still daily it and even though it needs work it’s still super reliable and has only given my 3 major problems since owning it for a year. One was that my brakes went out on my in Miami at a car show, did a brake bleed and couldn’t find anything, let the car rest for a couple of weeks and boom hasn’t had a problem with the brakes since. Second was severe overheating leading to smoke which is my coolant boiling and leaking out of the broken top. Third is a tranny leak, she’s going to the shop soon to get that fixed thank goodness.

[@joserobertotososa9456]

I have a C4 and because of the way it has manufactured water came to the gas tank during rainy day. Possible reasons will be the leaking/vacuum hose in the gas tank got clogged creating water overflow and eventually water going into the gas tank. Please let me know possible solutions or/and that happened to you.

[@jimdunne1900]

225 is too hot, especially in hotter climates. Use a newer temp fan relay kit and a 180 F thermostat to run 180-200F during. It also operation.

[@tytk]

Loving these vids! Planning on getting a 91 C4 for my first car, appreciate all the info

[@RetroCarsForever]

Awesome! Happy to help, what an epic first car.

[@danielmcgrane5698]

Had a 6 speed '94 C4. I thought the parking brake was quirky. Any time I had my friends drive the car, they could never figure out how to disengage the parking brake.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Good one! Def another weird quirk of the C4. I've driven British cars with that design so I wasn't too stumped by it, but yeah, def something you have to teach most people who want to drive it. I'm working on a follow up video to this one just quickly goes over ALL the quirks (that might be a little more obvious) and the handbrake is def on the list.

[@russellboyd5262]

I would like to see,videos on the beautiful c3 vette.I own a 1977 torch red vette,Easy to work on ,cheap to buy,and to modify.There a real head turner for sure,Trully old school,should go up in value,as the years progress.thankyou russ.

[@RetroCarsForever]

I would love to review a C3, just gotta get my hands on one! I think they're gorgeous cars.

[@josuecortez2259]

I love my 1996 LT4! Great video and content!!

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks love mine too! More coming soon!

[@RARenfield]

I look forward to your follow up video titled "How the Optispark stranded me in the middle of B.F. Nowhere." Five years with my '96 LT1 now. On it's third Optispark. They look almost as good on a tow truck as they do on jack stands. Corvette fanboys think nothing of it. But if you actually DRIVE the car, the Optispark will leave you stranded without warning. Those five quirks you found are a drop in the bucket compared to the REAL #1. The Achilles heel of the LT1/4: The long discontinued ACDelco Optispark with the coveted Mitsubishi sensor. Replacements are all a crapshoot.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Im working on another video of "Top 10 common C4 problem areas." You can bet the Optispark will get a mention.

[@johnrow8376]

A "Feature" on my '94 is the push to open hatch! If it's closed, all I have to do to open it is put my hands on the latch and give a quick, but firm, push. Viola, hatch opens. I don't know if any others have this feature.

[@RetroCarsForever]

I think there's something broken on your hatch! But hey, if it works for you, and doesnt blow open when you hit a bump at speed...Great (accidental) feature!

[@Domi39]

I mean I don't know about anybody else, but the belt cinching in every single car I've owned (1999 Impala, 2002 Sable, 2016 Civic, 2019 Civic Si) have all worked like this. Once the belt cinches you just have to suck in your stomach a little bit/push backwards into the seat so that the belt retracts slightly. The tooth falls out of contact with the belt and then it can extend again. I'd bet it works the same way on this.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Afraid not! Watch the video again and you’ll see that no matter what I do, once the be belt grabs, there is NO way to release its grasp beyond unbuckling it. I’ve owned two dozen cars and never had one like this. That’s what makes it such a bizarre quirk.

[@jasonmccabe1182]

I have a CE LT4 Z51 and love the video. Suggestion for your next video...take a dive into the world of RPO codes and try to figure out how many of the different types of C4s they made with the LT4. Another idea, do some investigative research into the LT4 and the reported underpowered performance ratings given by the factory.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thanks...Car twin for the win! Great ideas, particularly like the LT4 numbers thing...I personally feel my Corvette doesn't feel underrated (feels 330 hp and nothing more) But never been to a dyno before, so maybe that would be a great excuse!

[@jasonmccabe1182]

Practical Car Guy almost a twin...I have red interior.

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@jasonmccabe1182 Oh wow, red guts...Super rare! Have you ever tried to figure out how many "identical" cars you have to yours? I have roughly estimated mine is 1 of 60 or so, but yours has to be much rarer than that.

[@jasonmccabe1182]

Practical Car Guy yeah, someone on the Corvette Forum said it was probably 1 of 22 given the interior. I keep asking around but have yet to find anyone with my exact combo.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Jason McCabe sounds about right. Do you daily yours?

[@BatesRacing]

I'm planning on getting a 1993 C4 as a project car and weekend driver for my channel. Thanks for the info! Subscribed for more C4 content 😁

[@RetroCarsForever]

Thank you for subscribing, much appreciated! More c4 stuff coming soon. I’m curious...Why a 1993 specifically?

[@BatesRacing]

@@RetroCarsForever definitely want the LT1, seems to be a good overlap year for a lot of the options (I think its also the last year for that style seat, more snug fit than later seat styles), I like the look of the interior more that both older and newer versions... most importantly its the same year I was born 😂 but if I find the right car for the right price I'll grab it, regardless of year as long as it's still got the lt1.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Bates Racing awesome, sounds like you’ve done your research! 1993s are great deals. Best of luck with your search!

[@johnkamm8886]

Love my 91 C4 roadster..........😉

[@72bowtie1]

Temp information was good. I bought a hypertech tuner and programmed it to come on at 185°

[@mackwoodcock7484]

Only vehicle ever push back on me was a ford e450 econoline cube van with the 460.

[@RetroCarsForever]

@@mackwoodcock7484 Wild, that had traction control that would push the pedal back?

[@traggbuckel7901]

I love my 87 vet ..throttle up buddy my 1987 runs at 170 ,, running hard.tell me buddy you love the car. My car still does 130 ..

[@josephkozelsiki1079]

Do you have an L98? I have an 89 with an L98 and am trying to figure out why it’s running so damn hot. I bought a different thermostat that opens a little cooler and was going add a coolant additive. But I’m not sure if that was the move.

[@carlitosASJ]

I've never heard anyone say it's hard to heel toe on a c4 ..Ive had. 95 and a 92 and I can do it just fine since the brakes don't grab at the top of the pedal travel by the time they grab specially under hard braking it's more even with the gas pedal. Also it's more of a side foot type deal since the c4 has such a tight pedal box I can't use the actual heel

[@RetroCarsForever]

I've heard from PLENTY of people that it's difficult to heel and toe in a C4 (including many, many comments on this video alone). It's possible with the side of the foot, but difficult under to do correctly under pressure, and I don't personally feel I get the control that I want with the side. Feels a lot better with this custom pedal extender.

[@brendonburgess9721]

GMs Aussie division Holden used the ASR type traction control in the early LS1 equipped. They called it a "throttle relaxer". I first felt it's wrath in the 2001 Holden Caprice, where I sank in my steel capped work boot onto the pedal, whilst going around a corner. Where I got into trouble, was that my boot somehow became wedged between the throttle pedal and the under dash trim, meaning I couldn't lift off the pedal. Scary thing for an 18 year old just starting his mechanical apprenticeship.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Woah! That would be a wild ride.

[@danielmckenzie6858]

I OWN A 1995 C4 CONVERTIBLE AND I LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND YES THIS IS NO CAR IT IS A CORVETTE THERE IS NOTHING CLOSE BUT IT STILL MY FAVORITE CAR AND THIS VIDEO SHOULD BE VIEWED BEFORE YOU BUY A C4 CORVETTE, OTHERWISE YOUR WALKING ALONE IN THE TWILLIGHT ZONE, EXCELLENT VIDEO

[@RetroCarsForever]

Agreed, nothing like a Corvette, even with all the quirks!

[@brianturney3209]

My Magnum SRT8 has a similar issue with the temperature gauge. "Normal" is higher than the mid point of the gauge. It freaked me out the first time it got that hot after I purchased the car. Internet searching found that it is designed to run hotter, like your Vette.

[@RetroCarsForever]

Good to know the Corvette isn’t the only American car with that weird quirk!

[@playboiknasty]

I wrecked my 96 c4 corvette at 18, first car. It was yellow with black stripes and big rims. The traction control didn’t work :(

[@RetroCarsForever]

Dang...Sounds like ASR might've been useful! I'm glad this wasnt my first car, I would've 100 percent wrecked it too.