C5 vs. C6 Once and For All

[@kadendaniels934]

Yah but pop up headlights mean C5 for the win

[@Toys4Life]

Yep, sleek by day (and the bulbs stay clean) and at night who cares what they look like, you really cant see the car unless you are in a lit parking lot....

[@hondaman6918]

I agree!

[@desertpair2]

I prefer headlights that are always at the ready and don't require the extra maintenance. The C6 is a better looking car!

[@Toys4Life]

So you like the pop-up ones that are always clean durable glass and never faded, dull and hazy?

[@KeepSycklids]

Agree

[@GregSr]

Of course the C6 outperforms the C5. The Corvette continually evolves. My C5 is better than my C4 in every way (I still own both).

[@ExclusivelyEsox]

Potato chips. I have an 05 but I still turn my neck at any generation. I'll admit I realllly want a C7 though.

[@Toys4Life]

1 of each works.

[@Vegasclaw]

If it wasnt for the C5 timeless design i would go with the C6 but once i saw a millennium Yellow FRC my heart dropped. They both have an LS engine tunable to no limitations, thanks for the awesome video. C5 it is

[@SupraRy]

Lmao the video at the beginning with the two silver vettes cut off RIGHT before they crash into each other and take out a tree lmao.

[@Toys4Life]

That was a sad day in Corvette world.

[@TurnDownForWork]

I feel like it should be noted that you can get a c5 z06 for the same money as a c6 base, which eliminates the performance differences almost entirely. At that point its strictly about which one you like the looks of.

[@Corvolet5]

I personally would get a C5 just for the popup headlights.

[@TurnDownForWork]

Same. You can't beat a set of pop ups.

[@MacLaw3084]

yea... but ur not gonna get an ‘08 or newer c6 for the price of an ‘04 c5z with stupid low miles.

[@austinmurray4287]

Angel Lawless But even an 05-07 base C6 is 5hp less than the 02-03 Z06

[@MacLaw3084]

Austin Murray yep i think we’re making similar points.

[@Josels-ck7kx]

C5 for me. I love my car and would not trade it for a C6 or 7.

[@davidlawner241]

Liked the video a lot but you did not mention the top speed of each Vette ? I definitely like the c5's looks a lot better!

[@Toys4Life]

You're right, I should have thrown that statistic in there Even though 99.99% of the owners will never hit top speed it's kind of fun to know what it's capable of.

[@gabegraham8063]

@@Toys4Life I have a base 1998 c5 and the fastest its been in the time ive had it was 150

[@danielfair4675]

C6 will get you between 186 & 190 mph (convertible vs coupe) for the base & Grand Sport. The Z06 will get you 198 mph. The ZR1 will get you a claimed 205 mph.

[@nathanlopez5667]

Agreed the C5 looks better

[@Nobody-dc8dp]

Top speed isn't as good as acceleration.

[@tonywestbrook6436]

One things undeniable, C5 Z is unbeatable on performance and the exterior and interior still has a yesteryear look that was forever lost after 2004.

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks for the comment !

[@MrWackenhut]

C6 ls3 will destroy c5 zo6 all day everyday. Its simple numbers, Why tf do people make such asinine comments 🥴

[@dewaynemiguel3349]

I dont like how the C6 backend looks short my C5 actualy now puts out 535 hp some C6 around here found that out

[@ryanrake2714]

Yeah, the trunk is much smaller, by 3 cubic feet, engine bay is about the same, you can ls7 swap the c5, but the older ecu isn't to advance, so it idles only decent, cant get the precision tuning. Id go c5 over a base c6 anyday, much more sleek, wider body, longer body, lower stance. Better in every way their. Looks with a c6 z06, debatable.

[@deznutz3163]

What all did you have done to it? If you could please help me out with the cost? Any thing you would have done differently?

[@dewaynemiguel3349]

@@deznutz3163 I had nothing done to it a Dr bought it new and put alot I to it then got bored and bought a new one it's how it was when I bought it

[@MrWackenhut]

Come race my c6, you’ll gonna learn

[@Toys4Life]

I'd like to race you.

[@timtimtimmay4654]

After owning both, I find the C5 way more predictable in handling where at the edge, you know you are there, whereas the C6 makes you feel like it is on the edge at 80-85% of its ability, but when you hit the limit it lets go quickly. I ended up selling the C6 because of the driving experience compared to the C5, which translated into more of a "driver's car" imho.

[@Toys4Life]

Interesting analysis - thank you!

[@TheBsavage]

I had a car you'd regard as a "driver's car:" a Triumph Spitfire. You knew where the edge was. The car gave you LOTS of warning. I could slide around corners in a 4-wheel skid, no problem. Lots of road room and handling feel before I hit the "edge." In that margin between traction and the edge was lots of slop. Unsafe slop. It is a dangerous car. The C6 gives you everything until it has nothing left to give. In that lack of margin is safety. The C5 will slide towards danger. The C6 keeps you out of it.

[@Chefjohn96]

Z06 or base?

[@connor3288]

Do you mean the c5 is more neutral/slight understeer at the limit, and the c6 neutral/slight oversteer at the limit?

[@timtimtimmay4654]

@@connor3288 the C5 is more honest about how much lateral G you have left before you lose traction. The C6 feels like it is going to skid well before it reaches its capability, and it leads you to believe as you push it further that you are ok until you just aren’t. It may have to do with the improved ETC, but I’m not sure.

[@futurestrader6435]

Concise and to the point. Rare for today. Thank you!

[@Toys4Life]

Glad you enjoyed it!!

[@rickhunter6513]

Better performance, yes, better looking, I give the nod to the C5. My opinion of course. The C5 just looks sleeker and I love that it was the last model of any car to have pop up headlights.

[@Toys4Life]

I still like them too. Cant see the headlights until you turn them on at night. Then you cant really see the headlight assemblies themselves cause it is dark out...lol..

[@bluemut55]

I'm currently trying to choose between buying the c5 or a c6. I feel as though I would be getting more for my money if I bought a C5 but the most compelling reason is the fact that the C6 front end looks a bit goofy and less purposeful.

[@clawmachinetime955]

C5 looks way better c5 is hands down the best looking vett ever made c7 c8 looks like bat mobiles I don’t like them at all

[@Toys4Life]

I like em all but there are several views of the C5 that are unmatched IMO..

[@clawmachinetime955]

Toys4Life C5 what will you charge me to put on a and a super charger on my 2004 c5 vett

[@wydopnthrtl]

I think B-pillar forward its better looking than all but the 64-67 yrs. My understanding is the B-pillar and rearward was a balance of stowing 2 golf bags and aerodynamics

[@BlindTom61]

Thanks for a great video. FWIW, those prices are l-o-n-g gone... smiles.

[@Toys4Life]

If the world EVER gets back to normal, and that is a big IF, them maybe we will see those pries again. Fingers double crossed we get back to normal..

[@willpowers4762]

The flag girl at 3:11 is exquisite !!

[@johnbonham617]

I had aC5 and now have a C6. The thing I miss most in the automatic is the floor shifter being able to shit into all gears.

[@tdalb8985]

Good video, I'm surprised the C6 is 20 lbs lighter. I knew the power was much better in the C6. The compromise comes down to price. Yes the C6 is quicker, but it cost 50% more. I bought a mint C5 convertible, with low miles and a 6 speed for far less money than a kit cobra, and I've got a roof, windows, pretty good stereo, air conditioning and cruise control. In few years I might trade up, but this car has enough everything to keep me entertained. What's quicker? Newer Corvettes, vipers, Hell Cats, and Shelby Mustangs, And they all cost a lot more. Just like the C4 which is still incredible perfornance for cheap, the C5 is a bargain now.

[@qzorn4440]

wow! there are two corvettes c5 and c6 for sale both with low miles and for me the driver air bag is a must 😎 thanks a lot for the basic info, just what i needed 🤩

[@prettydog37072]

Great video, got a little fancy with this one in the filming. Love seeing the comparison

[@Toys4Life]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@link9alink9a71]

C5....the last real model for Corvette style after that just sale to make money...

[@invertedpolarity6890]

I owned a 2002 C5Z and now own a C6 GS. The C5Z is a true drivers car. C6 GS with wide body styling is just beautiful.

[@brianparshall8231]

It's about time somebody covered the Corvette that most people drive most people don't have a zo6

[@Toys4Life]

a delayed -Thanks man!

[@benedictdonald4338]

as a formr C5 owner, I believe I can freely state that it's an ODD-looking machine. it's bulbous proportions do NOT help its cause. I'll take a C6 every day, instead,

[@Toys4Life]

It's definitely unique, but I would say the majority of people love it rather than hate it. And I also think the majority of people like the C6 design.

[@wydopnthrtl]

It definitely has a bubble butt.. and I don't like that at all. But the rest of the car is proportioned right IMO. I will confess though... I don't fear trips to Costco and actually take the vette sometimes instead of the truck. ;-)

[@gopro2027]

@@wydopnthrtl I always disliked the c5's looks until I bought one. Seemed the most bland out of the bunch. c1,c2,c3,c6 all have style but something about the c5 was always off... until I bought one.

[@wydopnthrtl]

@@gopro2027 I recently added a small cowl induction hood. IMO that is how it should have looked since day 1. Otherwise the hood looks too flat.

[@Toys4Life]

Oh how I disagree., I think the stock hood is super sexy as is...

[@johnschutt9187]

Hello. I watched a couple of your videos the other night. They were very helpful. I’d like to get a C5. Where did you buy yours? They seem to be priced more like the $24k that you mentioned for a c6 rather than the $12 that you mentioned for a C5. How can I buy one? Thanks.

[@Toys4Life]

I bought mine 7 years ago for 20k in MN - around July. 3 yeas ago I tried to sell it for 12k in August... Glad it didn't sell because that is what made me drop the supercharger in to make it new again. It worked!!!

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

I personally prefer the looks of the c5 myself. I think it's the best body style since the c2 and up until the c8. As cool as I felt driving my dads 66 hardtop when he owned one it definitely wasn't the most comfortable car to drive around. I'm currently looking for a c5 since it's the one I can afford currently.

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

@Hb Rich yeah? Where are you located at? What kind of price are you asking? I'd like to find one with low miles like yours for sure.

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

@Hb Rich I'm only about 9-10 hours north of you, just across the Oregon border in WA.

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

@Hb Rich sure, to save some time can I ask what model and color it is? Coupe, convertible, or FRC?

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

@Hb Rich I just have some specifics I really want so I might as well get that out of the way first. Then we can go from there for sure!

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

@Hb Rich how do you send me your email? I'm not very good beyond posting comments on how to do that stuff.

[@peterpann9619]

The C5 is the prettiest to look at by far in my opinion, the smooth lines and styling is killer however I still like my C4 convertible.

[@Toys4Life]

One of each!

[@chloedegurechaff1941]

The way i always explain c5 and c6. Is the c6 is really just a c5 but without the pop ups. For chevy at the time still wanted to be producing the c5 with pop ups, but big boi government said no. And so basically more or less the same cars, one just has a newer more powerful engine from factory.

[@Toys4Life]

Clearly the closest 2 gens so far. Look at the giant leap from C4 to C5 and then a big leap from C6 to C7... So I basically agree. C6 also got some better drivetrain parts along with the stronger engines.

[@chloedegurechaff1941]

@@Toys4Life yea theres always going to be some changes, but all tense and purposes their the same car. just with some updates to meet newer stricter regulations.

[@TheBsavage]

C6 is a more compact, tighter package, yet has a longer wheelbase. The C6 has more tech, a better engine, a better interior, etc. These are the normal changes for any other car generation, like a Honda Civic, one gen to the next. Corvettes have tended to change design cues dramatically, skewing people's perception. Big changes between C1, C2, C3, C4, then C5. After that C5, C6, & C7 are quite similar, visually. Sure, angles & edges change, but overall shape is the same. The same as any other car model. The C6 is as mucha a C5 as any other manufacturer's model is the same model. Except that it isn't. A C6 is not just a C5 without popups. Popup lights are a gimmick. A cool gimmick, but a gimmick just the same. A slippery drag coefficient was a goal at the time the car was made without the thought there was more to the game than that: keeping the car on the ground. To provide downforce some drag is sacrificed.

[@SimplyJustRandomness]

C6 is better in just about everyway...but...with the money you can save by gettting a C5 and throwing a supercharger on it may be more beneficial. Bye bye C6 once that C5 is pushing 450+whp for the same price all in all as the stock C6...something to consider and think about.

[@Toys4Life]

Haha Here is what I think of your comment about the C5 plus a supercharger..... kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJuzanato5qYg9E

[@SimplyJustRandomness]

@@Toys4Life Very nice....so yeah there ya go haha

[@tomcosta47]

Just want to know which one is the most reliable

[@zachkuby87]

Those price quotes at the end hurt my feelings. I wish they were that cheap still hahah

[@Toys4Life]

Pretty unbelievable isn't it!

[@squid4554]

@@Toys4Life I was on the hunt for a C5 2 years ago and found them all day for 10k with 100k miles or less. Now I'm shopping again and its ridiculous how much they have gone up. I'm trying to decide between a C5 or C6 currently but my biggest factor is long term reliability. Whichever I get I want to pay off and keep forever if possible, throw a new engine in it when need be. The electronic factors are what scare me going with a C6. Any idea which is more reliable overall? Found a 2002 C5 and 2005 C6 im debating rn.

[@clawmachinetime955]

C5 looks better

[@Toys4Life]

From some angles I would totally agree, from a few others maybe not?

[@1970borntorun]

That was very helpful, but you left out 2 super important attributes for comparison. Driving dynamics ( oversteer, understeer, road feel ) and Steering feel.

[@Toys4Life]

IMO - that would be subjective and should be captured (to a degree) by the objective measurements that were included in the video?

[@kindnessisalie5411]

c6 beats the c5 in every way, except the pop up headlights

[@tehtehkhantengames8580]

I just supercharged my c5 and put 6 piston willwoods on it. I get the looks and the performance.

[@Toys4Life]

And that supercharged sound!

[@georgebarth5596]

I absolutely love the C5, C6 & C7......... and I am wondering if the C6 and C7 suffer from the "could be fatal / expensive" torque tube rebuild that I assume is always eventually needed on the C5....... And if this exists on C6 (2008 and on for the LS3) as well as the C7 2014 to 2019 models (standard 460hp motor) models, is it more likely to be needed, or less likely needed on these later GENS with the assumption that Chevy improved upon this flaw from the C5's? Thanks so much..... :-)

[@black_n5492]

In 2022, between these two for a first time Corvette owner just learning to do work on their own cars, which would you recommend? Initial price is less of an issue. I'm more focused on cost to own (recurring), driver feel, reliability and beginner friendliness with regards to doing your own car work. I've owned a 600whp RWD 6speed and I'm relatively comfortable driving a high powered car so not a new driver. Just wanting now to do more of my own work myself and enjoy something different and new

[@Toys4Life]

If you're going to work on it yourself and have it for a number of years, parts might be more available for the C6, overall reliability I think is fairly close except for avoid the early C5 years and go for a C6 after 2008 or after.

[@black_n5492]

@@Toys4Life appreciate the guidance. Thank you. In another video you mentioned first timers stay away from the c5 z06. Does that still stand? Even for an 02/03 model?

[@Toys4Life]

I have kind of backed off that a little bit, but I definitely would take a closer look at a Z06 just to make sure it hasn't been abused. All things being equal, I think it's fair to say as z06 may well have lived a harder life so take a very close look at it to make sure you get a good one!

[@wydopnthrtl]

You make great vette vids! Thank you. 1.5yrs ago I was shopping C5 vs C6 vettes.. and I too limited my interest to 01-04 and 08+. I chose to go 03-04 Z06 primarily due to value -vs- content (performance). I bought an 04 Z06 w/36k miles and so far its value has not fallen below what I paid. I've done one long road trip (1300 miles) and I have no complaints at all and don't regret going with the C5 in Z06 trim. (no car design and trim is perfect IMO) If / when the day comes that I seriously consider getting something else.. at the top of my list would be to keep it and replace the entire drivetrain w/something that'll run deep 10s AND be drivable on cross country trips. (maybe TT)

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks for the thanks - a bit delayed... Sorry.

[@MajedTaib]

Thanks for the video. But how about reliability as a daily driver? I want you to answer the question because you're an expert to me.

[@Toys4Life]

Tough one to answer. If you want super reliability, we probably would be driving Honda's. I would say the late year c5s have similar reliability to the late year c6's. Hope that helps. Thanks for your comment!

[@martinmiklosdano2984]

@@Toys4Life i do drive a honda accord 6gen 3.0v6 coupe, but i want a corvette second car soon, i love pop up headlights, but still i love c6 too.. fk this 🤣 i want all, but i think i will go with the c5

[@angelobovara317]

Skip the C5 and 05 to 07 C6. 2008 and newer is what you need. I know. I have an 2007.

[@Toys4Life]

What don't you like about your '07, LS2 versus LS3?

[@darknessislight3689]

I love both 😊 but the C5 for the win 🏆 I also own an 01 convertible 56k lite pewter 😆 pop-up headlights are awesome.

[@Toys4Life]

Right on!

[@twinturbo421]

I'm 6'3, 273. Which has the better hip and leg room? Thank you in advance 😁👍

[@sspp3065]

put a 373 rearend in your base C5 the most bang for your buck,and watch everyone's jaw drop.

[@Toys4Life]

Agree! Probably the perfect gear for a mild H/C M6 C5 or C6.

[@TornadoOfSouls777]

Thanks for the vid!

[@Toys4Life]

4 sure- Thank you!

[@LeviHeatonIII]

The C5 and C6 are the same car. I tend to think of them in this way: th C5 is the last old school Corvette, and the C6 is the first Modern, new school, Corvette. The C6 is just an updated, upgraded C5.

[@nopenope250]

C4 C5 forever.

[@Toys4Life]

Yep - C4 is good too!

[@g4do]

Love the video... the monotone voice though, nearly put me to sleep! Fought through this one . Makes you appreciate what Donut media does

[@Toys4Life]

Appreciate the complement and the constructive comment. The donut ones are well put together and their success shows. I just cant get myself to down 3 glazed donuts and 2 red bulls before making my vids though...lol. J.K. I'll try to be a little more jacked when talking!

[@g4do]

@@Toys4Life don't be jacked , just sound as passionate as you obviously are . Like I said, I absolutely love the content... you just have the voice of a love maker ... nothing wrong with that , but it's not the right voice for talking about AWESOME vehicles

[@jayyoung2586]

If you want to hear a monotone, watch one from Classic Car Memories. No monotone here.

[@fernandop937]

was that a Cleetus clip without leeroy the c5 or ruby the c6 😭

[@Toys4Life]

Ha, I'm not sure I can't remember. Good old Cletus, before he was flying RC planes and boats.

[@13megagreek]

Everything in the video is true, and well done. For me, a very important factor was left out....looks. I find the front of the C6 extremely unattractive. That psudo- viper thing ruined it for me.(same goes for C7) It just doesn't look like a Corvette, to me, anymore. That beautiful , sleek look that the hidden headlights give the car. The affordable, non pretentious, American Ferrari . It was a great decision in 1963, and they should have left it alone until the total revamp of the C8.

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks for the comment! Here is a link to Part 1 - which is primarily a looks comparison. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYLaZIObmq1-rtU

[@13megagreek]

@@Toys4Life Cool, thanks

[@craigt5906]

360 tq was for the aitomatics 375 was for 6-speed manuals

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you! Wonder what accounted for that difference in the engine?

[@garybaugh8302]

Great job!

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@kevindhuse9087]

Got a C5 50th Anniversary convertible and a C6 Z06. Love ‘em both differently.

[@Toys4Life]

I can absolutely see that. Two great choices!

[@chicano_travels]

I got a c6 but I was looking for a c5 funny enough. I just wondered which one would be more fun to drive since I never drove a c5

[@HellPhoenixCA]

C6 will probably be better to drive. Only reason to take a C5 is to save money, mod the living crap out of the car, or just mess around with it. C6 should be better in every way as a performance car but the C5 gets attention from enthusiasts.

[@chicano_travels]

@@HellPhoenixCA I just preferred those pop up headlights haha my firebird had em and I miss it.

[@Toys4Life]

C6 and C5 are both awesome!

[@christiantownsend880]

where are you finding those prices any c6 2008 or 2010 have been 27-28k for me while I've been looking

[@Toys4Life]

Keep in mind this video was made a few months back. C5 and C6 prices have gone up (like everything else) in this crazy post pandemic shortage...

[@unknownkingdom]

Prices of all used cars have risen and corvettes moreso.

[@marcc5871]

I picked a 99’ frc over an 05 c6, I don’t regret it at all

[@Toys4Life]

Sweet!

[@KA-te7xk]

C5 ALL DAY EVERY DAY & twice on Sunday sir. Body lines on the C5 are steathly and timeless sleek.. 🔥

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed.

[@roybishop6110]

The rear-end look on the c6 looks sweet I have both.

[@epicray8434]

This comparison forgot the major win for the c5.. pop up headlights

[@Toys4Life]

Your right - I should have. They are objectively better. They stay clean when closed, and the lenses don't get cooked by the sun. Dang it....

[@epicray8434]

@@Toys4Life not because their better... Because they are way cooler 😎

[@0Heeroyuy01]

best option is buy a cheap C5 and Ls3 swap it boom best of both worlds

[@Toys4Life]

Agree that would be a good option, if you're LS1 was blown up. Otherwise for street use you'll make more power supercharging the LS1 then upgrading to the LS3.

[@Swiftanium]

why does the corvette convertible cost more than the coupe? is it faster?

[@Toys4Life]

This many years later, if that's true then it's just due to supply and demand.

[@christopher6161]

Considering that the C6 is like 2-3x the price of a C5, it's kind of irrelevant, you can massively make up for the loss in performance in a C5 with "cheap" mods. it's a fair comparison in the sense that the cars are like nearly identical platforms to start with though. a C6 really is like a C5 with a bunch of great bolt-ons

[@RedLP5000S]

C5 Z06 all day long. ✌🏻🇺🇸💙

[@jamien9327]

Nice video!

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks!

[@one7decimal2eight]

I don't care what anyone says. The fat ass end with the oval tail lights and pop up headlights make this the best looking vette imo.

[@Corvolet5]

As a German the choice is rather easy which one to get for the money. The C5 Z06 is really hard or impossible to find on the used market, unless they're in different countries. The C6 LS3 is quite pricey starting at 30k, but at least you can find lots of offers. And now comes the weird part: I can find cheaper 09 CTS-V than C6 LS3.

[@Toys4Life]

That is strange. What are you going to buy?

[@Corvolet5]

@@Toys4Life Let's see how it turns out. If I have 30k lying around I'll easily get the CTS-V cause they're a rare sight. Camaros, Mustangs and Challengers can pretty much be seen anywhere in Germany. But I only rarely see a first gen CTS, the ones based on the Opel Omega. Never seen a second gen CTS, let alone a V.

[@wydopnthrtl]

@@Corvolet5 I've spent seat time in a early CTS-V (SC version), base C6, and my C5 ZO6. The CTS-V is very impressive to drive. You'd have to do something like 4.10 gears and a tune in a C5/C6 to get that instant TQ feeling. Even then it would still be lacking as compared to the V. I'd imagine over there in DE it could be expensive to fix a CTS-V. And finding one that's not been beat on would be tough and expensive too. (finding clean ones here is not easy or cheap. The ones I see here I'd not touch at all. I think you'd be much more likely to find a clean trouble free vette than a CTS-V. But... it's possible.

[@Corvolet5]

@@wydopnthrtl Heya, sorry for the late reply (KZbin is a little messy with notifications sometimes). I might consider buying a C5 in one or two years for about 18-20k for a 2001+ model. The German market is kinda weird overall, that's for sure: even a C4 is terribly expensive, being around 14-17k for a base model from 1992. If you want more, you'll be spending 20k upwards. The C5 on the other hand is really inexpensive, and the C6 is hard to get under 30k if you just want the LS2. As for the Caddy, it seems like an interesting choice. But I kind of want a sports car for car meets and some summer drives, as I already have a Ford Mondeo for everything else. One of my buddies has a 2002 Pontiac Firehawk with the exact same LS1 engine putting out 350hp. Pretty impressive machine to say the least. He gets his spare parts from Rock Auto overseas, and the import doesn't take longer than 8 days to Germany. Which is insane when I think about how long some Amazon packets from Germany can take. The only real issue is to learn a few basic repairs and proper English, but I usually was top of my class at that language anyway. TL;DR thanks for the input. I'll probably get the C5 as long as insurance costs won't kill me at that point haha

[@roybishop6110]

Not sure about the buying numbers

[@Toys4Life]

Not sure what you mean. Production numbers?

[@claiborneeastjr4129]

I've owned both. Still have my '06 with the Z51 option and six-speed manual. The C6 is superior for me, and I like the styling much better. Never cared for the popup headlights. Frankly I think the C6 styling is better than the C7 and C8; I'm sure I will get some flak about this.

[@Toys4Life]

Hey, we like what we like, I'm not going to argue with you 😜

[@treygrassl5891]

Coming back a year later and the prices are almost double on the C5 😢

[@Toys4Life]

It's unbelievable, I still don't believe it but it's true.

[@treygrassl5891]

@@Toys4Life was looking for a little weekend car grad gift for the past two years… little more patience for now.

[@MC-uj4co]

That's the way it should be with each passing model they should be better than the last model..

[@Toys4Life]

Should be - but not always the case with cars....

[@wydopnthrtl]

@@Toys4Life sounds like you know..... I'm in the OEM realm and have been for close to 30yrs. Project scope, cost, and target buyer all change at new model introductions. What the traditionalist finds offensive vs what the new buyer finds pleasing, is something we sometimes consider. But not always.... the more emotional the product the more its considered. And sometimes it's thrown out the window! (like in C6 fixed lights or the C8) In my experience over the years and at all OEM's that I've been associated with, costs is usually the largest hurdle we battle. Then engineering and marketing have to figure out how to "sell" the product within the cost constraints imposed. LOL... which causes ridiculous disagreements about the smallest things. Like Tadge had to do with getting the 8K tach removed from the C5.

[@gtbmjb7192]

No offense as I enjoy this channel. I would say that now we need a supercharged C6 owner to do a similar test from his perspective to get a balanced overview of the 2 cars. I have to agree the C5 interior is preferred as the C6 interior is "corporate/generic" down to the steering wheel. However even the C6 base LS2 and 6l80E are great improvements over the base(s) C5 LS1(s) and 4l60/4l80. I love Corvettes. Each new generation improves on the previous generation.

[@Toys4Life]

No offense taken, appreciate your comment and your honest opinion ☺️!

[@Savineyard3]

In the C4 to C5 video you did, you said the C5 weighed in at 3,225 pounds. In this video the C5 weighs 3,245 pounds? Now were only talking 20 pounds here, but where did the extra 20 pounds come from?

[@Toys4Life]

Dang it, I must have used a different source. They can be all over the map but are generally pretty close.

[@TanSlimProductions]

Gotta update the ending of this video with modern day prices after the huge hike. Imagine getting a c5 at 12500 today :⁠,⁠-⁠)

[@Toys4Life]

Agreed 👍

[@TheFalcondan95705]

When it comes to the better looking of the 2, ill take the c5. I predict the C5s will go way up in prices. It's one of the Best Looking corvettes EVER, and one of the best looking cars of all time. Personally I would not pay the price difference of the z06 for .5 seconds quicker in the quarter than the non z06.. I can take the difference in price and put a supercharger on the base c5 and blow away the z06! But, I like my cars all factory original.

[@MrWackenhut]

Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder lmao

[@carsonchasingadventure]

Unfortunately the KBB numbers are only a guide, current C5 and C6 pricing is considerably higher than the numbers shown in this video

[@Toys4Life]

I agree, Every number somebody might give you is a guide. And yes, these are a bit still, proving the market can change very quickly and unpredictably.

[@russellmakar579]

My son had the 2013 Grand Sport, got rid of the cat, and had it dyno tuned and a set of headers installed, he was getting 500 hp at the wheels, I drove it a few times and yes, it's fast and LOUD!!! Very fun to drive, he bought it new and when he sold it he got more money than what he paid for it. And did I mention it's a chick magnet, I wish he never would have sold it but he bought a Tesla which is even faster.

[@Toys4Life]

Tesla is awesome but after driving in one it just isn't the same... No engine noises, vibrations, shifting, smell of E85... etc.

[@uncledrew8297]

If I can convert a c6 to pop up lights I will sell my C5

[@Toys4Life]

Lol

[@ronsteitz4535]

I have a C5 2004 now but either car is fine with me. I had a C3 1973 first. I guess I like the hidden headlights as the 2004 was the last Vette made meeting this criteria. 👍

[@Swiftanium]

the c6 is an evolution of the c5, but better exhaust and 0-60 time. trust me, i'm ADDICTED to corvettes ( even though im 18 )

[@Toys4Life]

Oh my goodness, that's going to be a long life of addiction!

[@Swiftanium]

@@Toys4Life as you see, r The ls3 is the evolutonized ls1. But both same big blocks are used in c8 c7 vetts, camaros, and even tahoes.😀

[@Toys4Life]

@@Swiftanium once you get past the LS3, then you get into the active fuel management BS.

[@Swiftanium]

@@Toys4Life like the l99 engine? ( AKA it's like a ls3 engine, but for an automatic camaro ss )

[@Swiftanium]

@@Toys4Life the newest generation silverado has that, but still keeps that same old 6.3 liter like in a tahoe/suburban, yukon/yukon xl, escalade/esv. it's like having a corvette engine block, but using it to make it more better and efficient. L99 and LS3 are simulair, but the L99 engine has the performace and fuel efficency while still having that 6.2 liter v8 vith tuning potential

[@drewmorg.]

I wish your KBB numbers at the end of the video were still true today. Makes me sad.

[@ProCoach2373]

I've had a c6 base and I have a c5Z now. C5 all day long for me.

[@Toys4Life]

Curious - what attribute or two do you like about the C5 better?

[@ProCoach2373]

@@Toys4Life I actually like the body and interior better. The pop up headlights are preferable. I wasn't a fan of the magnetic door handles on the c6. The c5z is just a bargain.

[@clevlandblock]

I have a 98 C5 coupe and a 16 Chevy SS sedan. I never rode in a C6 but I know the LS3 is a mean-ass motor. That plus the 6 speed auto makes the C6 a terror. However, I never took to the C6 styling. Coming at you, a C6 has kind of a goofy smile appearance and the tail looks too chopped off. Chevy stretched the wheelbase of the C6 for no reason other than it had to share the assembly line with the short-lived Cadillac XLR. This lengthening of the wheelbase together with reduction of body overhang gives the C6 a kind of diecast "Hotwheels" look it didn't need. But I'll admit the Z06 and ZR1 versions were well done and help redeem the C6, styling-wise. I've resisted going to a C6 or C7 because of the great looks of my C5. The C8 has my interest but I'd have to sell the SS and the C5 to afford it.

[@Toys4Life]

All very good points, I didn't know the claim about the wheelbase being stretched just to match the Cadillac assembly line. Where did you hear that?

[@clevlandblock]

@@Toys4Life I'm a car magazine hoarder. It would have been in Car and Driver or Motor Trend around the time of the introduction of the C6 and/or XLR. I'll check around and repost if I find the article but my issues aren't in order. I followed the genesis of the C6 closely at the time. The wheelbase thing was fairly common knowledge then and may turn up on the net.

[@Toys4Life]

@@clevlandblock I knew the wheelbase was longer, and the reviews I watched said they did that to improve handling. Although it seems to me that moving the rear wheels back will take even more weight off the rear wheels thus hurting acceleration.... I would definitely be interested to see what you find!

[@clevlandblock]

@@Toys4Life I recall reading that the wheelbase increase was due to Cadillac's attempt to get an improved ride versus the Vette and was not related to handling. It's not like the C5 was deficient in that area. You don't hear too much about automotive engineers increasing wheelbase by an inch or so to gain a handling advantage. Otherwise the Porsche 911 would look like a limo by now. The Corvette group had to bow to the wishes of the GM brass and their push to make Caddy world class at that time. The XLR concept was warped. The one Car and Driver test of the XLR that's on the internet said that the wheelbase increase was due to the bulkier engine and to better accommodate the folding top of the XLR...hardly relates to improving on the C5.

[@Toys4Life]

@@clevlandblock Interesting, thanks for the info!

[@deetusyeletus]

I like the looks of the c6. Only one i can afford is c5 lol

[@Toys4Life]

C5 is no slouch - and with mods it can be faster than the C6 easily - (not so easy vs the C6 Z06 and ZR1)

[@331foxbody]

Yo the C5 because pop pop pop pop up and down HEAD LIGHTS

[@Toys4Life]

fully agree, People make fun of them, but in the down position they look awesome, and you don't have to deal with those stupid lenses getting hazy over 6-7 years of sunlight.

[@waltermiller249]

Would use the price difference and modify the C5 instead

[@Toys4Life]

Not a bad idea!

[@wydopnthrtl]

Ditto

[@kingkongbingbong9889]

C5 looks coolest imo

[@Toys4Life]

I like em both!

[@josephforcino6399]

I just bought a c5 in like new condition with about 6 thousand dollars in up grades and a 6 speed . I love this car .

[@Toys4Life]

Nice!

[@captaintom9521]

I like the look of my 02 C5 better than the C6 but I wish I had 430hp. Maybe I'll add a Turbo

[@Toys4Life]

Check out the A&A supercharger kit on my channel. Easy bolt on 600 horsepower.. no other mods except for valve springs...

[@ryanrake2714]

@@Toys4Life personally I prefer naturally aspirated for reliability and performance. But a supercharger ain't bad especially 600 horsepower. Im looking for lower but strong power, looking at ram air induction and a cam swap. Thats is, maybe exhaust. 410-420 horsepower.

[@smokinC5]

Having owned both, the c6 is better by the numbers sure, but the c5 is better looking without a doubt. Take a c5 over c6 any day.

[@Toys4Life]

And save about 10k as well! When C8's get plentiful on the used market, I think the C6 will start to fall closer to C5...

[@smokinC5]

@@Toys4Life agreed. However, when c8s start to get more common i am eyeing a c7 z51 3lt lol. Keep up the good videos!

[@TheBsavage]

C6. Duh. Without watching the video: longer wheelbase, more powerful engine, wider stance, less overhang front and rear, better transmission, better engine, better brakes. The Internet is filled with opinions. Most are garbage.

[@Toys4Life]

No rubbish is allowed on my channel, I put up a sign saying so.

[@bullitt3839]

Can we get these prices back 😢

[@shiftintohigh5564]

Excellent!👍👍😎🇺🇸

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks 👍

[@willardarmbruster8111]

C5 is much better looking on the outside. Everything else I prefer the C6. This is so difficult. I may end up with a C7. Maybe nothing.

[@Toys4Life]

Anticipation of what to buy (:-)

[@paulmoss7940]

Sorry . No corvette produced yet will shine with a C6. By far the best overall 'vette in history as of 2023 . Time will prove this out. C6 is ICONIC. Take a look at some video games and see which one you see. Oh yeah, where do you find an replacement ECBM for a C5 ?

[@Toys4Life]

Better that the C1,2,3,4,5,7 & 8? Tell us how you really feel (:-)

[@kiwiguy4764]

C6 and C5 base might be faster but isnt it hatchback Z06 frc forever

[@Toys4Life]

Nice!

[@MacLaw3084]

c5/c6 just before the Vettes became over styled.

[@Toys4Life]

I do sometimes think that about the C7 - put you put it to words!

[@user-jb6co6vc4q]

Now the 2012 is about 35k to 40k depending on mods

[@Toys4Life]

That's going to change as the economy skids, I'd wait till next summer as a buyer as a seller and sell it right now..

[@F_r_a_n_y]

I hear water running in the background.

[@Toys4Life]

Dang it, you've got good ears that might have been my 30 gallon fish tank. I've got a couple of monster goldfish that just continue to grow. More importantly though, did you like the video?

[@F_r_a_n_y]

@@Toys4Life Yes! The C5 is definitly the way to go for the difference in price imo

[@ah4800]

2005 corvettes go for 30-35k here in canada

[@Toys4Life]

Crap, and they have the weak differentials to boot.

[@ah4800]

@Toys4Life C5 im having trouble choosing to buy a c5 or c6. If i get a c6 it will most likely be an 05 or 06

[@Toys4Life]

@@ah4800 2006 for sure. 2005s have that week differential issue, unless you're going to keep it stock.

[@ah4800]

@Toys4Life C5 just minor bolt ons. I didnt know 2005 had that issue thanks.

[@ah4800]

@@Toys4Life i also have an 86 c4 i need to upkeep as well so not much funds for any big mods

[@Infantryman662]

If you don't already own a C5 or C6 I'd get a C6. But if your like me and already have a C5 I'd upgrade it to be better than a C6.

[@Toys4Life]

So C6 is too close to the C5? - I can see that.

[@billyjoejimbob56]

Wish you had done this as a 3-way comparo including an early C6 with the 400 HP 6.0 liter LS-2. Possibly the best bargain of the three. You did not mention ATs... IMHO, C5 and first year C6 with the 4L70 trans should be avoided due to poor reliability. Anyone after an AT car, consider the 6L80 equipped C6 only. And... C5 looks MUCH better without the rubstrip!!!

[@Toys4Life]

Appreciate the comments sir! I like the idea of the 6 speed if I were going auto but if you look at RPM and other High Performance builders they all get more high HP durability out of the 4 speed auto. The rub strip is interesting. I love it. A lot of people don't & remove theirs... I think it is close to 50/50 on love hate of the rub strip - very subjective. At the end of the day - research both cars (hopefully my video helps answer a few of your questions) determine what is important to you and then find YOUR Corvette!

[@kallo182]

Dont know what you mean with "Reliability" What is wrong with the 4L60E ?

[@billyjoejimbob56]

Reputation for burned up bands, 3/4 clutches, torque conv. clutches, and valve body problems. Those comments apply to all 4L60s, most of which were installed in trucks. In a Corvette, driven moderately, may be less troublesome. As they use to say, "your mileage may vary".

[@Toys4Life]

@@kallo182 The 4 speed handles more HP when modded than the 6 speed auto is what I was trying to say.

[@madness-ent.]

@@Toys4Life seriously?? what hp number woudl that be ?

[@todd8928]

The C5 is better and faster because of the flip up headlights. Its science.

[@Toys4Life]

AMEN!

[@davy1458]

c6 for sure

[@jccscooby]

bro price has gone way up…

[@Toys4Life]

I know and that absolutely sucks donkey a**