C64 Jeroen Tel's "RoboCop 3" oscilloscope view

[@JeroenTel]

Fantastic view on the 8 bit FM waves right there! :-)

[@RolfRBakke]

Thanks for stopping by, Jeroen :-)

[@RolfRBakke]

Alex Helton It is not FM, it is a digital phase accumulating oscillator with 24 bit accumulator and 12 bit wave output. A VCO is traditionally an analog design, but comparable to the digital phase accumulating oscillator.

[@vuurniacsquarewave5091]

+Rolf R Bakke I believe the Wavetable-synth in the Famicom mapper Namco N163, is also a "DPA"

[@ZILtoid1991]

+Rolf R Bakke The SID is a subtractive synthesizer, that means it has a variable oscillator and various filters per channel...

[@JeroenTel]

+VHS Headlines I'm honored to the bone! :-) And to answer your question, yes. I did the NES tune during a night in 1991 in London @ Probe Software Ltd. and not much later I converted it to the Commodore 64.

[@Akuajin]

Tel, Hubbard and Follin bros are the masters of their craft in the C64/NES and beyond era. Thank you again for all the memories these tunes have given us though out the years, even though some of the games tied to them were sinkers, the music made you want to push further to hear the next level music track! Amazing!

[@JeroenTel]

[@hana-ng4ql]

What about Ben Daglish and Wally Beben?

[@niklasekelof7319]

I would like to add Hülsbeck and Galway to that list if I may.

[@JeroenTel]

Both are legends!

[@19822andy]

And of course David Whittaker

[@rudigerman5377]

0:53 It might be just me, but watching/hearing that bass pitch down has got to be one of the most satisfying things on youtube :]

[@JeroenTel]

Wouldn't that mean you don't know how to use KZbin properly? I'm kidding, man! Nice compliment, thanks! :-)

[@Retrospective.]

You're not alone, i love it when it kicks in. i hate to sound like an old fart, but this really is, "when computer music was computer music", this could easily have been the backing for a song in the charts at the time. love it.

[@NuntiusLegis]

@@Retrospective. What do you mean, "at the time"? Proper old farts consider this timeless! Kidding apart, I agree computer music should sound like a computer. Same for graphics, ultra-realism is boring. Computer art should showcase an aesthetic specific to computers.

[@pstudiosmusic5434]

This can still be accepted by today's standards of music. Just sing over this and it sounds completely new! How he did this, was about dynamically altering the waveform right in the middle of waves to create custom sounds. The echo in the beginning is well done... cool Also go check Jeroen Tel's Supremacy! I just love these two songs.

[@Train115]

You don't even need to add lyrics, it's better than a good amount of modern EDM.

[@grumpyoldgamerUK]

Matt Grays recent remix of this is superb on one of his Reformation albums. He adds his own little touch to it which is really nice

[@movax20h]

At 0:50, you just suddenly start smiling. Transition is awesome.

[@JeroenTel]

Yay! :-D

[@mistaelfboi]

More like 0:52...👍👍👍I legit have this on my retro playlist🙃

[@bartosx]

Jeroen tel is the master of the long tones in c64 music world. this track is in my opinion one of it's best work.

[@JeroenTel]

+barti xanti Thank you Barti! :-)

[@JeroenTel]

BOOZE & METAL Yes. :-) (ironically gave it to the demo group named "Blackmail"...) :-D

[@djlobb]

thats pretty crappy that the devs never paid you! Don't worry, Robocop 3 was a pretty poor game anyway so forget them. But I'm glad you made this track!!

[@JMDAmigaMusic]

@@djlobb Don't forget the mind blowing ONE channel in-game tunes!

[@JeroenTel]

It's cool you would mention that. At the time I worked at Probe Software Ltd in London and I booked a flight to the Netherlands to see my then girlfriend. At the day of my travel my friend and producer Joe Bonar asked me if I could do the level-tunes (I was packed and all!)... I was so deadlined, that within an hour I wrote those 1 channel in-game tunes. I wished I had more time, because I would have composed more of them and with longer length, but somehow they came out quite nicely. Thanks for noticing! =)

[@stephenskinner8251]

For a long time I have wanted to say that this is one of my favourite pieces of SID music - Jeroen Tel, Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway are all 8-bit musical geniuses. This music brings back very happy memories of my teenage years. I am now 50, and I still LOVE music on good old SID! May it carry on forever.....

[@JeroenTel]

I am now 48 and I agree about Rob Hubbard, Martin Galway and Ben Daglish and some others having defined a part of my childhood.

[@hayrettinyildiz8018]

Jonathan Dunn, Tim Follin, Ben Daglish ?

[@davidgasiorek4134]

This has got to be the best thing I've found on KZbin.

[@JeroenTel]

+Gilda Griffon (humbled)

[@yugiohboyfriendappreciator7739]

clearly, you haven't seen the ytpmv's of this.

[@davidgasiorek4134]

>ytpmvs That's because the shit taste I have is ironic, not real.

[@yugiohboyfriendappreciator7739]

Gilda Griffon well, not really. i mean, Robotron 3 was amazing. look it up.

[@mongofil]

My goosebumps just had goosebumps. Epic stuff that people will listen and marvel to centuries from now!

[@CrazyGaming-ig6qq]

Another Jeroen tune I never get tired of listening too!

[@filmgbg]

Oooh! I love seeing 8-bit channels split up like this! It gives you a great view of how the composer managed to put such a relatively advanced track onto only three channels, and what waveforms was used. Thanks for this video! :D

[@vuurniacsquarewave5091]

On the second channel you can see a common SID technique for getting a good snare drum. It's usually made with one tick (1/50 of a second on pal) of noise followed by 2 or 3 ticks of a pitch bending square wave, and then it switches back to the noise. Here, it's inserted between the bass notes so it's pretty seamless to the listener that one channel does multiple things.

[@vuurniacsquarewave5091]

Yes and the advantage in that case is that the noise has its own channel there so it doesn't have to interrupt the bassline, only the triangle blip does.

[@djlobb]

I still prefer the fatness and sound of the C64 version over the NES. I believe Tel does too.

[@JeroenTel]

Yup. =D

[@djlobb]

That's pretty crazy that he got the drums and bass on the same track, I never noticed that before. It's even more impressive given the fact that the drums are pretty elaborate here.

[@Retrospective.]

WOW. I always worshiped at the alter that was Tim Follin (genius), Rob Hobbard, and Martin Galway, but this, this is *right* up there, with the very best of the creme of SID music, what a creative genius, i need to fire up my C64 now ....

[@kedicikksk]

That track almost makes me cry man what the hell. Every single year I aged I like this more than before. Loving both versions. Great damn tune Jeroen, respect.

[@СерыйЁж-ь3я]

Это кайф моего детства. Ещё на кассеты записывал и в дешманском плеере слушал. Ностальжи.

[@MichaBiskupski-dh5cr]

etolodka

[@Looper231Xd]

2:22 sounds like a sick guitar solo. Glad Elvind Sommersten recreated the exact vibe in his remix.

[@dDoublevisioNn22]

this has to be one of my favorite tunes. its so funky

[@papajjak]

12.05.2023 кайфую до слез от этого музона❤

[@Zehahahaa]

I like this more than some of the electronic music we have today ! 😮🙌🏼

[@JeroenTel]

That's why there is "Tess & Tel" now. ;-)

[@rodmunch69]

Some?

[@Dukefazon]

Ever since I saw oscilloscope view of Commando on The 8bit Guy I’m fascinated by these videos and what they could achieve on the C64 back in the days.

[@Edix]

So far my best 3 minutes and 58 secondes of my life

[@JeroenTel]

Thanks Edix! :-)

[@Psylicium]

Dat bassline.

[@ExtremeWreck]

That baseline DUMMY THICC.

[@Csinovnyik3000]

It was not a DAT but a magnetic cassette... :)

[@Psylicium]

@@Csinovnyik3000 Duh :D

[@crnkmnky]

@@Csinovnyik3000 Dat bassline dummy magneticc

[@movax20h]

One of the best music pieces of the whole 20th century. Period.

[@Dougie-]

Jeroen at his best.

[@JeroenTel]

Cheers! :-)

[@MrPCSniperFi]

Jeroen, How the hell did you push that beautiful SID chip to the maximum like that, and THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE CHANNELS?! Well...you are a legend. You probably set many SID chips on fire with this one!

[@JeroenTel]

Thanks, man!

[@tommyeastwood4393]

im an atari guy but i literally cant stop listening to this song. jaroen tel is a !legend!!

[@allan.n.7227]

LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! .. such a masterpiece.. one of the best SIDs period (so one of the best of the best in other words)

[@TecFox]

One of my most favorite chiptunes. I really like this kind of visualization.

[@musor9767]

Для тех кто хочет прослушать максимально близко к своим воспоминаниям PAL версии SEGA: выставьте скорость воспроизведения "другая" и 0,85. Так как PAL версия была на 17% медленнее NTSC.

[@corereject5796]

still coming back to this jam

[@SoapTF2]

I'll be the first to admit I don't know how to program stuff like this from a hole in the ground, but I do have an ear for music, and this is absolutely fantastic. Jeroen Tel, if you haven't already you need to get into instrumental music. As 8-bit as this is, it's a masterpiece.

[@JeroenTel]

Thank you, SoapTF2, what a nice compliment. I have moved on to many different platforms and whatnot. Just search around. Most noticeable would be "C64 Orchestra" and of course my pop-act with Tess Fries as "Tess & Tel".

[@SnowyFeet]

Still a masterpiece to this day.

[@aryinc]

jeroen tel''legend''. Great work, love the soundtrack to alien 3 ''nes'' also.

[@Architector_4]

This is actually the first time I'm listening this, and oh god, THIS IS TOO AWESOME, ITS STUCK IN MY HEAD NOW, HELP

[@doopydoopz1737]

Gotta say, I love all of Jeroen Tel's music.

[@JeroenTel]

Thanks, but then... you clearly haven't heard all of it, yet. (Haha). (kidding). =)

[@scottbreon9448]

One of my favorite SIDs ever. My favorite remix of this one is the classic Lagerfeldt version.

[@jseeker1867]

IN THE BEGINNING OF A STREAM, BUT SOMEONE RAIDED THE STREAM. NOW IT IS THE TIME TO FIGHT BACK.

[@notebookperson]

protonjon

[@Tomatenkiller]

Just incredible. And groovy as hell.

[@Beardodoomus]

Who else used to load up Robocop 3 on the C64 just to hear this on the loading screen?

[@jamesb4263]

Jereon Tel really managed to get that bass that thumping base in much of his music which I think was fairly revolutionary

[@MegaZombieman115]

Love that funky bass line!

[@metarotta]

one of my favourite chiptune songs :)

[@acerlmt]

Dat melody! Eargasm!

[@supermariofan772003]

The best version of Robocop 3 in my opinion.

[@Mr_Meatbox]

how the hell did he do the low noise in the bottom bar from 0:21 to 0:52 amazes me.

[@tardistardis8]

Shaun Zafar The SID chip had the ability to play multiple sorts of waves on a single track.

[@PeterLawrenceYT]

That's a triangle wave being ring modulated.

[@tardistardis8]

Peter Lawrence Oh.

[@JeroenTel]

The SID chip is a mystery... it can do so much if you know how to program it. Ring modulation on all 3 channels is the most surprising effect.

[@edwardjenkins5421]

Is that why all the square waves look like they have sine waves on them?

[@TheMaskarad]

ring modulation is so underappreciated

[@JeroenTel]

Not from where I'm standing it's not! :-)

[@GJ-mn9ly]

In the top ten best sid tunes, ever!.

[@JLippe]

well now I'm in love with this and I can't help it it's so freaking good, like, literally how-

[@williamfoster9978]

One could fit the Basil Poledouris theme using this as a basis and it would work like a charm.

[@ramakrishnamishra8179]

The best video game music ever! Jeroen Tel is the best music composer!

[@HuntersMoon78]

Love the oscilloscope

[@praiser_wwardynski]

timeless sid!

[@uriituw]

Jeroen Tel is a fucking genius!

[@NuntiusLegis]

Which doesn't deserve gutter language.

[@uriituw]

@ Which what? What’s the problem?

[@NuntiusLegis]

@@uriituw Joeren Tel is a splendid, freaking, gifted, blisssful genius - so many possibilities to avoid the gutter.

[@uriituw]

@@NuntiusLegis Who asked you?

[@NuntiusLegis]

@@uriituw You just did, and now you are doing it again. "?"

[@BestBackingTracks]

Man, that fucking bassline.

[@GretgorPooper]

That bassline is amazing!

[@almo2001]

Had not heard this one. Very impressive.

[@flmalegre]

Better than sex, by a mile.

[@mediumwaffle4104]

This is so good IM SHOOK!!!!

[@Locateson]

The bass line is so frickin cool

[@Nikchemni]

wow! wonderful!

[@Zakrit.v.arhive]

Дмитрий Павлов ты русский

[@ConnorR.mp3]

Definitely my favourite SID tune.

[@NeonBandingo]

I can't stop loving this theme for such an amazing hero and his game. Robocop. Who is he? What is he?

[@skylinefever]

The AVGN loves the NES theme, so I wonder how much more he would like the C64 theme.

[@goeuldi]

1:49 epic twist

[@ArtemioUrbina]

Sent here by JBueno, awesome!

[@TheRezro]

This one is legitimately great!

[@Titan0l]

Almighty 64 shoe beating!

[@ziutekkxx1987]

That SID chip still amazes me! 😁

[@porcorosso81]

It's interesting that the filter resonance is permanently active on all 3 channels. Which is the reason why the song is completely distorted on my R3 6581 installed in my SX64...

[@vuurniacsquarewave5091]

+porcorosso81 One interesting effect that could've been done this way is an effect to simulate being underwater or something like that by applying strong low-pass to the entire song if you had gone underwater.

[@seabomb1]

rolling down the street in my katamari

[@j0dgers]

This is so damn good.

[@KilldozerPilot85]

Красиво слушается - красиво смотрится.

[@princesscarl1656]

1:37 to 1:52 is pure nirvana

[@allan.n.7227]

Princess Crabcrotch agree.. truly awesome

[@GlennnD]

2:52 very interesting to see the PWM sweep.

[@zaxisbug]

Bass 🔥

[@NeonBandingo]

Enough fighting. This is what true power feels like!

[@timoloef]

what a peak moment from 1:45 till 1:53 !

[@JBuenoMD]

I love that this looks like an Electrocardiogram, the middle channel sort of looks like a patient having a myocardial infarction.

[@KopterSD]

Gänsehaut, oh wie geil

[@martinmichaelsenXY]

Awesome 👑👑👑👑

[@christianbusch9796]

a masterpiece

[@Azumarill]

I've always held this is the best song on the NES

[@terrylutfi8888]

Rolf have you tried capturing in 60fps and upload it on youtube; I bet it would look as good as a real oscilloscope.

[@RetroGames4K]

Although I had the ZX spectrum by the time, I recognize that this version is way better... so epic... Awesome....

[@markwrightrf]

Jeroen Tel (along with Follin, Hubbard, Galway and others) - mark of a genius - when less gifted composers would think, "that will do, it's good enough" the elite just keep layering on more and more tricks, surprises and flourishes like it's totally effortless. B*stard! :-) :-)

[@AliNamdar]

OMG! It's nostalgical music.

[@reverseretro1961]

sounds like the high pass filter was used here interesting, wonder what it would have sounded like with the low pass filter instead? this is an epic tune

[@doricdream498]

thats quite interesting...a band pass filter seems to be universally applied, i assume to get a bit of beef out of the bass while giving the lead a sort of shiny quality in addition to the fast pwm.

[@JeroenTel]

That's exactly right. =D

[@frankmeyer9984]

PURE (SID) GENIUS...

[@RoshwyinsTaicoon]

Jeroen Tel is a genius

[@biotronic6912]

Track of my childhood, dark n almost empty room, only me in front of fat tv)

[@Xonida_NcTroller]

Man them square waves are ROTATED

[@КонстантинСергеев-х9с]

Ooo))) Nostalgie)))

[@tetsujin_144]

I'm curious about the waveforms here - like the melodic parts look like square waves but with a curve to it. Is this the result of filtering? (High-pass filter leaving a lower-frequency harmonic out?) I like seeing the waveforms so I can relate what I'm hearing to how the sound was made - see the pulse widths change or instruments switch waveforms to produce different parts of the sound... but there's a lot I still don't quite get.

[@Terbie36]

Jeroen TEL-LS stories using notes.

[@SmaIlHum]

when sound chip older than nes sound chip but + ears

[@TheLemminkainen]

if u were raised with SID no other sound chip gets your intrest

[@UralKanalService]

Россия 94 офигеваю от этого музла, криво пишу на кассетный мафон. Чудеса)

[@deanky]

are there any oscilloscope vids of the theme for the first robocop game? it's godly (this is too but still)

[@chaoko99]

Wish I could get sheet music for this.