CAA Micro Roni Stab with Glock 17 Gen4 + Extended Barrel

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[@Palentir]

This is most underrated Micro Roni video ever made. I had same idea but didn’t know how.

[@sentinel8711]

Ahhh pretty slick with the barrel idea

[@dirtyfax]

I'm doing a Glock 19 Roni similar to your build. The only extended barrel for a 19 was a IGB 7.5. I'll have to thread it and possibly cut it down a bit. You mentioned contacting you for info on the mods needed. Any info would be great.

[@gangway4708]

Folding "brace" 😉

[@jsego29js]

This shit is dope as hell bro!!

[@joshv06]

Johnny 3 fo sho!

[@twoletters9257]

Can you make a video of a step by step for this mod?

[@timefliesasyougetolder6815]

How good is that trigger guard? Does is stay in place when covering the trigger or is it easy to slide out without meaning to? So if you had the Micro Roni in a pack could movement in the pack brush the trigger guard out of the way?

[@joshv06]

It's pretty easy to move. Kind of the same amount of force needed to move a phone across a table. But it's an extra feature, so I don't fault it.

[@gunsaccessories8853]

Good stuff man!

[@joshv06]

Guns & Accessories Thanks!

[@vlogmoor4992]

Hey Josh, so if I wanted to get a G17L barrel for my roni, I'd have to heavily modify the kit? Would I have to shave the kit in order to accept it?

[@joshv06]

Correct. Only a G17, G17L and G17 Roni will do this.

[@vlogmoor4992]

Thank you. I'll have to find someone with a drum-ell tool

[@____EA____]

www.igbaustria.com/configurator-g17-g5.html

[@cd4playa1245]

So you had to modify it to accept that longer barrel? Would a Glock 34 barrel work in a 17 in this without modifying?

[@joshv06]

It would still need to be modified. Your barrel would still hit the internal flash can.

[@reid9004]

Awesome video

[@joshv06]

Thanks!

[@randomemail3936]

Will you please make a video on how you modified it to take a suppressor?

[@andrewb.glisnin2266]

Good review. Considering extending barrel myself curious what all it took.

[@joshv06]

Email me!

[@bbgjimmy6455]

@@joshv06 can you do a video

[@texasbradley]

I understand the version 4 barrel shroud can be extended a bit? I just ordered mine but I'm not sure my 5 inch barrel will fit... If anyone knows please comment.

[@isaacpacheco09]

Does the G17L barrel work in the g17 without the Roni? I have a mr920 and it doesn’t seem to work with the silencer co 17l barrel

[@orionfive3573]

Do you still have the metal shroud? If you're not going to use it again, would you be willing to sell it?

[@joshv06]

I'm still using it. I modified it to allow the barrel to tilt in it.

[@ryrysinger]

How dirty does your glock end up getting? Does your glock clean up well after a 100+ shots?

[@joshv06]

Sames as a regular glock. The inside of the chassis does not really get dirty since the blast is outside of the chassis.

[@Low12Sun]

I wish there were videos for the stabilizer for Glock 26

[@johnsmith4630]

Could a guy just take a sander to much of the front to open it up big enough for a sound suppressor? Could a guy remove material till it was nearly flush w the dust cover?

[@joshv06]

It works perfect with a suppressor without having to remove any more. Suppressors usually stick out about 1/4" due to the booster. My Osprey .45 and Octane .45 work perfectly on this.

[@garyhill5377]

Also with this conversion does it still allow stock barrel length or does itecome dedicated

[@GrimrDirge]

gary hill barrels are drop-in

[@IonutStefanescuSturz]

Did you use a lighter recoil spring on that G17 slide?

[@joshv06]

Standard ismi 17lb weight

[@Excalibur01]

I hear the rumor is CAA is designing a slightly different brace for the Micro Roni, where it's closer in size to the stock one than this version that's a bit shorter.

[@joshv06]

Excalibur01 hmm. I can't see it getting smaller, the length of pull on the stab is already shorter than the actual stocked roni. I'd be interested in seeing it, though. I like this one because it can house the 6.5" threaded barrel.

[@Excalibur01]

No, I mean, they are designing a new brace that's longer than this one and looks more like the original stock one...I think. I didn't say the longer barrel with the brake isn't cool but as I see you struggling to get it in right, to me, that defeats the purpose of the speed and ease. As I said, for me, I use this set up as a sort of emergency survival gun set up. Take my pistol and extend it's reach a bit by making it more stable to shoot. Otherwise, it's just a range toy. Unless you plan to keep the pistol in this set up and have it as a dedicated subgun. In that case, there are better purpose built options out there.

[@Yman83464z]

Yep. They have a longer LOP version out now: came out at SHOT 2018.

[@JDT738126]

Hey can you please run some good ammo and do a accuracy test? I would love to see the accuracy at 50 and 100 yards

[@joshv06]

On my To-Do list. Thanks!

[@joshv06]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX-mXqp7pd2letk

[@ib3scope]

Dude, what is your ethnicity? If I had to guess, I'd say Mexican or Central America, potentially even east Indian...?

[@joshv06]

Mexican. I was born in the great United States of America.

[@HunterJ711]

How did you just remove the whole flash hider tube out of the roni? And can you do this with a glock 19???

[@joshv06]

You cannot do this with a g19 since there are no 6.5" barrels for the G19. You can only get this setup with a G17. Email me at [e-mail] for directions.

[@idonotcollectstamps]

I would buy a modified one of these from you. Why aren't people with your skills, knowledge and ingenuity cranking out products like this? I would love to see you redesign one from the ground up and make it better. Give you a 3D printer and unleash all hell upon the Glock carbine world.

[@Timanator]

The roni is awesome! Gen 4 just got released, there are some updates like slide release area.

[@jnjr45]

Hey Josh... did you have to change guide rod spring weight to run your setup? if so, what weight did you use?. Thanks

[@DestroyerOfWombs]

Link to write up, please!!

[@sergioherrejon9998]

Hey I’m trying to do the same thing do you have a video on how you built this?

[@joshv06]

www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Micro-Roni-modifed-for-suppressor-pics/48-487652/

[@mcleb84]

I was told the other day at a gun show that any modification of the original design of the micro RONI opens doors to it becoming an sbr. It was the first time I had seen one before and it was pretty impressive. But does anyone know if this is really the case? I know lots of lawyers helped in the development of the product so you can have something 'similar' that didn't require tax stamps and the rest of the bs.

[@joshv06]

All you're doing is adding a longer barrel. Not really messing with anything in the brace.

[@mcleb84]

@@joshv06 Aye. Just wondering. Looks like an awesome setup.

[@caltari]

Do you have to register the Glock as an SBR? Thanks in advance

[@joshv06]

caltari You do not since this is a brace.

[@caltari]

Did the laws change recently, I thought you had to register your Glock as an SBR? So if I buy a TACTICAL COLLAPSIBLE STOCK FOR GLOCK® 17 Item: GLR17 made by FAB Defense and put foregrip for pistols, I'm still all legal? Thanks again.

[@joshv06]

That is a stock. What I use in the video is a brace. Brace = pistol. Stock = Rifle/SBR.

[@caltari]

Sounds like semantical bullshit to me. WTF, I'll pay the $205 extortion fee and go with the TACTICAL COLLAPSIBLE STOCK FOR GLOCK® 17 Item: GLR17 made by FAB Defense. The CAA Micro Roni looks interesting but looks too bulky and the biggest turn off is the plastic picatinny rail. Excellent review!!!

[@marobgonza]

Hey body i have a question, i recently bought the roni stabilizer and i would like to add a 9" barrel do you think i would have to do modifications if i do? Please advise

[@joshv06]

Contact me at [e-mail]

[@EvendimataE]

would it be nicer if the brace is a bit longer?

[@joshv06]

EvendimataE it's honestly at the perfect position for me. It is the same length of pull as a Magpul CTR at position 2 on an AR-15.

[@EvendimataE]

that was on sale at primary arms for $285 before christmas....i pass on it because i thought the length of pull is too short...maybe they should make their own version of arm brace so they can sell the unit at lower price

[@nsanerydah]

Looking at trying to see how to get that barrel setup for my G4 17 with roni stab.

[@joshv06]

email me at [e-mail]

[@nsanerydah]

email sent.

[@johnsmith4630]

How is the reliability after all this time? Do you have to use hotter or heavier ammo for complete reliability?

[@johnsmith4630]

Wish they would make it for 20/21

[@johnsmith4630]

What is weight of the whole assembly?

[@MrGoodSkills]

Where did you get that long barrel used in the Micro Roni?

[@joshv06]

MrGoodSkills I'm not allowed to say. Check out the description though. Cool site there.

[@MrGoodSkills]

👍

[@ejnfl040]

Can I get the specs and how you built it?

[@joshv06]

G17 Roni G17L threaded barrel by SilencerCo Guntec Flash hider Ghosted extended mag release (longest one they sell) Here is the guide: www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Micro-Roni-modifed-for-suppressor-pics/48-487652/

[@SylentONE]

Can I use this with my factory Suppressor height sights?

[@joshv06]

Not sure. But the new MCK's do allow that

[@SylentONE]

@@joshv06 Thanks

[@mathao8715]

Percise

[@bigpunz04]

Has anyone tried the Brownells Glock 19L barrel with the Glock 19 Micro Roni Stabilizer?

[@joshv06]

bigpunz04 interesting. Got a link?

[@garyhill5377]

How can i get the specs for this conversion

[@joshv06]

email me at [e-mail]

[@AmericanHmongPatriot]

Wonder why roni does not build for extended barrel.

[@joshv06]

They came out with the MCK gen 2 for suppressors. Should work

[@claytonw188]

How did you change the muzzle devices. Stock one screws off?

[@joshv06]

Email me at [e-mail] if you want the full guide.

[@claytonw188]

joshv06 thank you. I just saw the part explaining it

[@Md-be3bt]

Did anyone notice he said that the 23 was a full size ? It is not sir it’s a compact FYI

[@joshv06]

Yep, meant to say the 22

[@bigsean2473]

they call it a compact but the barrel is over 4inches imo not a compact.3.7 an under is compact

[@norfolknwhey4787]

Literally no one cares. The fact that you feel the need to correct the OP, shows your level of proficiency with a pistol.

[@Excalibur01]

Just as a discussion, I'd but this as a sort of emergency use for my EDC Glock so I can quickly make it an even better weapon in a pinch or survival situation if I don't have my truck gun AR in the car. I can understand the coolness of why you changed out the barrel, but that's close to making this a more permanent subgun than for my purpose when I bought it as something of a force multiplier for my pistol I carry daily. I bought the factory light that goes with this thing because they designed a spot for it, why waste more money on an extra light that's outside the frame. I got mine with a Vortex but it's the RMR style one because I like the smaller profile of it on a setup like this.

[@joshv06]

Sure thing. I went with the light I have because I have 18650 batteries everywhere. I have 18650 battery banks, 18650 lights on all of my guns, 18650 vapes, 18650 solar chargers.18650's last very long and hold their charge well. I made this a dedicated subgun because it had everything I wanted in a subgun. I figured I'd make my dream subgun out of the Roni, without having to sacrifice the compactness of my G19 that I can have on my belt. Furthermore, I now have 2 guns that can interchange mags and ammo. I have an AR-9 and a Scorpion Evo. They're heavy, recoil more than they need to and are large. The Roni is compact, folds, has a similar barrel length, low recoil comparatively and takes Glock mags.

[@Excalibur01]

The Evo has some recoil to it, but it's not so bad that it can be tamed with training and just getting used to it. That's my dedicated subgun. It's size isn't much of a problem since it fits in the exact same backpack I use for my truck AR that's broken down for storage - and I can deploy the EVO faster since all I need to do is unfold the brace. As I said, for me, I keep the Micro Roni in the trunk with spare extended mags and CC my Glock all the time if I don't want to lug around my AR pistol. It's quick to set up for a survival situation. Personally, I wish the brace was a tad longer for a better length of pull and more slim looking.

[@txsharpshooting1691]

So if the micro roni is using the brace how come they tell me i have to get my gun registered at the atf to be used in this when it doesnt even have a stock

[@norfolknwhey4787]

TX Sharp Shooting you don’t. As long as it’s the Roni STAB model, there’s no stamp needed.

[@majordickhardin7746]

That was great...except you didn't show the modifications you made...that WHY I wanted to watch this.

[@joshv06]

KZbin's policies won't allow me to. I am already demonized..

[@eddiecrow9133]

If you get the gen2 you don’t have to worry about this.

[@jvfran2]

I was under the impression that the Roni could not be modified.

[@joshv06]

I thought this was America.

[@jvfran2]

@@joshv06 ha! Just be careful, man. ATF is pretty clear about not modifying stuff. Hell, I've second-guessed myself about changing the strap on my Roni, specially if I'm going to be uploading it. Just a heads up, man. Good video.

[@joshv06]

@@jvfran2 Haha yeah understand. Figured it was fine since I didnt touch the brace at all. Only the front end

[@mikewalters8361]

With barrel blast out of chassy, glock stays clean longer ,just bore snake barrel and go. But be careful that might need tax stamp with longer bbl , trust me caa is pushing limit.

[@asiansrule45]

What flashlight is that

[@eddiecrow9133]

Amazon tactical flashlights with pressure pads, they all run under $40 seem like good value if you ask me.

[@asiansrule45]

@@eddiecrow9133 I've seen a few of those but I read some reviews about how they can't handle the vibrations from shooting and break pretty quickly

[@eddiecrow9133]

tj omoso get the one with the most reviews... i have one on my MCK but then again that’s a pistol not on my ar15 i have the wurrkos tactical flashlight on that one from amazon its a streamlight protac knock off its like $60

[@asiansrule45]

@@eddiecrow9133 nice how long have you had yours? And how many rounds have you shot with it

[@eddiecrow9133]

tj omoso that wurrko’s streamlight knockoff i had it for 4 months on my 10.5 pistol no issues, its $60 so pretty good deal tbh

[@pedropaglinawan1657]

Gud pm magkano

[@drwillfranklin1]

Is it legal to shoulder the brace?

[@joshv06]

2nd Amendment - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." I go by that.

[@frankiegunnz8066]

No Its not illegal

[@idonotcollectstamps]

BATFE has posted some letters stating that it inst illegal to "sometimes" shoulder "arm braces" but I do not think you can buy the "arm brace" with the intention of ONLY using it as a shoulder stock. The BATFE has fucking autism, if you couldn't figure that out from the 922r compliance, and the "shoelaces are considered fully automatic devices" rulings. They are trapped up in those offices with lead poisoning or something. I know that the company who makes Roni actually has a letter from the BATFE stating this ruling because they are paying a fee to use the brace to the company who holds the patent, and other brace manufacturers (Sig I believe is one, shockwave another) have letters also stating this. Basically, if it looks cool or fun, then the BATFE will try and piss in your Wheaties.

[@dubb9020]

so what does that mean. you can "sometimes" shoulder it? when is it not legal to shoulder it and legal to shoulder it? thats basically sayin if a cop sees you and wants to arrest you he can just cuz he feels like it that day. who the fuck makes these rules. is this really america gun laws right now? jesus christ its like a retarted 3rd grader came up with that

[@idonotcollectstamps]

I think the wording from the BATFE is "Occasionally" shoulder the brace. It is designed as an arm brace, but putting it up to your shoulder does not change the intention of the device. I have seen zero prosecutions regarding this in the U.S. In other words using a spoon as a catapult does not change the spoon into a catapult. I told you, the BATFE has autism.

[@hunchowiley8492]

The 23 is not full sized

[@joshv06]

Yeah I mis-spoke

[@kissadato7076]

Glock19 can or not

[@joshv06]

The new MCK gen 2 can do g17 of g19. This old model could do g17

[@johndavidsohn2388]

That looks like less than 50% accuracy … m just sayin’

[@joshv06]

I grouped it in another video. Got 12moa.

[@norfolknwhey4787]

I don’t understand the point of these... instead of spending $500 on this hunk of plastic, learn how to run a glock properly. He did nothing with it, that isn’t easily done with just the gun and good mechanics.

[@joshv06]

A pcc will always beat a handgun in terms of shootability.

[@norfolknwhey4787]

Not true at all. A G34 with RDS is just as effective, and much quicker with transitions.

[@joshv06]

@@norfolknwhey4787 Then there's no need for the MP5, MPX, vector, scorpion Evo, mp9, p90 huh? You might want to tell the manufacturers of those too. Let them know that 2 points of contact is a lot better and that stocks and Forends dont allow for more precise shots and recoil management, especially under stress. Please make a video showing you shooting handgun more accurately and faster at 25 yards than a PCC. We will we waiting lol.

[@norfolknwhey4787]

joshv06 considering the ones listed are primarily designed to use for suppressed use, and CQB assault, their need for gear mounting suppercedes the moderate increase in effectiveness. Not comparing apples to apples. You said “shootabilty”, which is false. Maybe for untrained shooters, but not if you are proficient with a sidearm.

[@norfolknwhey4787]

I have several posted using an STI for both IDPA & USPSA. The PCC shooters fall right in line with the proficient pistol shooters at EVERY SINGLE MATCH.

[@aismagiloff]

Tulammo not a good choice))))

[@joshv06]

I tested it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3_YhKxnmpKGbrM It's a great choice

[@aismagiloff]

Cheapest ammo in Russia. Too dirty after training.

[@justinv3080]

It's the cheapest stuff here too, like $8 for 50 rounds, while American made brass is like $10-12 at Walmart. My Rex zero 1s eats anything and everything including steel

[@DoubleOddJosh]

Азамат Исмагилов when you spend so much on your gun that all you can afford is Tulammo....

[@Raymond50001]

Too much yapping. 5:38 starts shooting. Your welcome.

[@joshv06]

You're