CAAD13 - What is Cannondale thinking?!?

[@DirtyCiv]

bought the caad 13 disc, and it's an amazing bike. welds aren't nearly as bad as people are making them out to be, and it really does feel like a carbon frame. i came from a fuji transonic 2.5 full carbon bike previously, and the caad 13 it just as stiff, and light!

[@ca5ualm3dia]

the problem with the caad12 and caad13 are CDALE company using these frames to force us to buy their parts only. The seat post on the 12 is not normal sized, and the 13 is proprietary. the BB is now called bb30a and limits you to sram and cdale unless you know the shaft is long enough!

[@haveallbeentaken]

Kind of thought the same thing. Love the CAAD 13 when I 1st laid eyes on her. Then the sticker shock set in.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

It's a shame because I really love aluminium bikes but at this rate I don't see why anybody would choose that over midrange carbon

[@andrewfilippone6245]

How hideous are the welds, I’ll jump from the steel soon but definitely not a alum caad. Speak soon bud!

[@brody5211]

Owning a caad12 2018 and a high mod Supersix 2014 - the Caad is much livelier fun to ride and my average is better usually

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

That's an interesting comparison. Thanks 👍

[@jasonpaige06]

New to cycling as a sport but have a family with a long history of cycling and they almost all recommended me the CAAD13 A. Comfort is surprisingly well on this bike B. Cannondale is a great brand which my family has always sat comfortably with C. I’ve ridden carbon bikes from my family and I can say even though the science of carbon bikes will always be true the CAAD13 is a carbon feeling machine D. Even with the new geometry being more vertical it helps for beginner riders I’m not comfortable with a large reach but the CAAD13 is perfect middle ground where the drops are comfortable even when I haven’t ridden a road bike for any purpose other than just testing or messing with one of my family members’ bike E. Cannonade might have made this high priced but I would rather buy a crit machine that if I were to crash it I wouldn’t have messed up a carbon frame (excluding the fork)

[@Keyprinciples9]

They should make a classic looking rim brake bike, and do away with the Optimo line up, have a 1x option either 46t/48t/52t paired with either an 11/32 34 or 36. use The CAAD tech to take elements from the CAAD 8, 10, and 12 to make an awsome/affordable crit bike for under $1500 that looks like a super bike killer. BSA BB, 27.2 seat post. these proprietary seat posts stop people from upgrading to some of the great seat posts that really improve a bikes ride quality. You can build up any of the older CAAD frames with new components for less money and end up with a bike you reallly like.

[@hf6568]

I love my CAAD 12, got it for 1100€ with 105 years ago. Planning a wheel update but that's about it!

[@timgraves4209]

Good Point. In Canada there are five CAAD 13 build available. The 105 disc is $2750 there is also a rim version for $2400. Emonda ALR 5 disc is $2399 and the Rim is $1995 the Specialized Allez Sprint Disc comp is $2869. So for me I'd buy the Trek all! Now only if they had an aluminum Madone.

[@DirtyCiv]

picked up the caad13 for $2100 USD, was a great buy, and an even better bike!

[@adammillsindustries.]

Bollocks. My LBS sold me a CAAD13 frame for £800 and it’s an awesome bike. Can use it on long rides & any weather.

[@Kevinschart]

Caad13 is a proper aluminum race bike. Cannondale's entry level bike is the optimo. Theyve earned the ability to charge a bit more for this model by creating fantastic bikes for decades. Cant afford cannon midgrade? Triban is there for you. Furthermore if youre getting an aluminum bike, welds are just part of the deal. If welds disgust you get a cheap carbon bike.

[@willhill4026]

I just bought an Allez sprit disc for club rides and racing.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

How is it comfort-wise?

[@MrEagan1975]

In the US the 105 is 2100$ which is the cost of the Giant Defy full carbon

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

That is an interesting comparison.

[@jasonedlund7282]

Watching this year later the price came way down today the Ultegra model is 2800$ us so I’m surprised it was that high a year ago!!

[@zoso73]

I think he's quoting in Australian Dollars. Or Doh-lahz.

[@mauriciocastano9822]

What do you think about BMC Teammachine alr two?

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Looks great!

[@AandA697]

Nice Point. I personally would buy a used One. E.g. the caad12

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

That is a great idea, there are some great bargains on the second hand market that's for sure!

[@brandondauphinais4162]

Love my caad 12! I think its going to become my dedicated all around climbing bike and ill probably be looking at an allez sprint or something similar for pan flat races/crits. Really hard for me justify carbon at my novice level haha although I do dream of a 2020 super6😍

[@leftymadrid]

Yes, agreed 100% I REALLY think there are those other choices for a really good aluminum bike. Plus the idea of sitting in a more up right position for most of us is not very appealing, though for really long distances it may be ok. But honestly there are a shit load of great bikes out there in the 1.600 to 2.200 range... I understand that in Australia the prices are much higher, for many products, shame really... All Cyclist beware of the marketing hype of new products, remember that it's still ok to get last year's or even 2-3 year old new bikes for the obvious reasons. Another thing, Some have said that rim brakes would be prehistoric in no time, I couldn't disagree more, I know of pros and real heavy into cycling fanatics that have found that disc brakes need a ton of attention and maintenance, a pain in the arse, as soon as you pop off the wheel, to fix a flat, and put it back on you tend to get a nerve racking click sound/rubbing that ruins any ride! Sure, they brake very well, but all that's involved in owning a disc brake bike is much more than meets the eye, especially the extra kilo + -that it adds lol I totally respect people who shoot for disc brakes, but seen enough myself to be able to shy away from that and stick with the good ol' rim brake versions... Cannondale yes what were you thinking!!! Sickbiker channel , also does a take on the new system six, and all the numbers and areas that a rider would improve on IF they bought their bike!!!!! A bunch of hype and bull___it!!!!!! Cyclist, check out before making purchase!!! Thx for your take, nice honest video :-)

[@Yanp87]

leftymadrid the companies won’t give you any choice, check the new domane, doesn’t exists with rim brakes, plus a lot of pros train with discs but will use rim in racing when it goes uphill only

[@JanKowalski-pe9lo]

You ride on what you got. You got what you buy... Approaching of the companies in bike industry changed the rule "demand drives supply" other way round and I don't like it. I am sure there is no demand on more proprietary made bikes and so on. So no hype bandwagon jump from me.

[@dr.qaziabdulbasit1490]

CAAD are good but at this price point i preferred a Bianchi impulso 105 aluminum and i am so happy with my decision. Cost me 1000 USD less with way better specs and comfort.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

The aluminium bianchi impulso and nirone are great bikes. Love mine

[@Mengcharsway]

I have both. I can say that the caad 13 is creamier and a bit lighter. I loved my impulso though and rode it into dust.

[@yudotn]

If I have to choose, which do you recommend? Giant TCR adv 2 or CAAD13 ? Both has the same price in my country.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

TCR for me. No question.

[@BeardonaBike]

What else would you look at for a light weight winter bike ideally 28c that can take fenders and still keep up with a fast paced club run? I was hoping a new Alez elite would drop with discs but nothing released as yet.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

It depends I guess what the CAAD13 costs in your local market. In Australia at the moment it is too expensive when compared to the competition, otherwise it ticks all the boxes you mentioned ( ignoring looks as that is a subjective thing). I would have some BB30 concerns for a winter bike but then again the Allez uses the same I believe. For me I keep going back to the trek emonda alr 5 in either rim or disc. I'm not a trek fan boy, in fact quite the opposite. But I've come around and that is the bike my heart keeps calling for. I will be featuring a video very soon on this exact topic... So stay tuned as I will be covering a lot more bikes in a lot more detail.... Cheers!

[@BeardonaBike]

@@melbournecyclingsegments7510 Emonda ALR wasnt considered can you get fenders on? I'll deffo look into it.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

@@BeardonaBike It doesn't have proper fender mounts on the frame but you can get those clip on ones like the Crud ones. Also there comes the point where price wise you can go carbon frame

[@pedrohernandez4679]

Lastima no poder leer en Español , puedes desbloquear por favor en configuracion de tu canal, gracias

[@tenjho101]

allez sprint costs about the same 3400 AUD now smh.. and its always sold out

[@oghyeahoo6165]

CAAD 10 Ultegra/SLK carbon groupo Shimano RS-80's(rim brake; no disk-respect..just how I roll!) That's my story & I'm sticking to it!

[@phantasma2323]

New old stock CAAD10 105...$800 😉😂

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Nice!

[@parthmache4733]

Hey Scott speedster 10 is also a very good bike, what do you think?

[@blizzbee]

It is good, but there are plenty of better alu bikes out there.

[@mreilly1325]

The trek emonda alr5 (rim brake) is my favourite choice and trying to get one

[@thomasc.6781]

sucks to be you

[@strickostricko]

Wowsers. An honest review! 👍

[@ronitdebnath]

In US they they are priced the same...caad12 was 1800 dollars as is caad13.... Even in India they are same

[@djmacedonas]

Not true. CAAD12 105 rim is 1575 US$. CAAD13 is $1800. Ultegra is $2200 vs $2400.

[@ronitdebnath]

@@djmacedonas only 2019 one. The previous ones were 1800. The 2019 one is 1500.

[@faosa73]

I think you are spot on and Cannondale are probably losing a great opportunity to release an aluminum bike that would entice some buyers to later upgrade to the supersix. This happened to me with the Caad 12 that I later upgraded to Supersix II (like some call it now). I would have never did this if the Caad 12 was as expensive as the Caad 13

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

If only giant still had the tcr slr in my Australian market ❤️

[@zoso73]

So did the reviewer not ride the CAAD 13?

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

At those prices... I'll stick to my Bianchi 😜

[@thomasc.6781]

No he didn't, obviously. He is a trained professional on tricycles. Don't bother with him.

[@robertandrews3055]

This was hard to watch. Why tape this walking around with a selfie stick? What's the purpose? Why not tape it at least riding a CAAD13? Anyway, I think the pricier CAAD13 is Cannondale's way of letting the cycling world know the newest in the CAAD series is truly a high end bike.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Your last sentence says it all. "Here's a stick. It's the best stick in the world coz it's expensive". These days expensive = highend marketing department.

[@BikeLife154]

Glad to see someone telling it like it is! The 13 is way too expensive and the frame welds are worse than canyon’s welds! And believe me bb30a is a creaking bb. I know I bought a 2016 caad12.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Mmmm, now I really am considering the Scultura 400 just on principle. But man that trek purple flip.... I'm so torn!! Stay tuned 🤔😜

[@BikeLife154]

Melbourne Cycling Segments I wouldn’t recommend a Caad to anyone after my experience. Now I’ve silenced it it’s a great bike but has cost me so much! I would buy the specialized or the trek!

[@jnick1909]

@@BikeLife154 what was your experience?

[@BikeLife154]

@@jnick1909 my story is very long, but had a lot of trouble with clicking/creaking for up to 3 years. Bike shop couldn’t sort it either. Two BBs later, new wheelsets and changing many parts it is now quiet and a superb bike! But the money I’ve spent I could’ve bought something much nicer!

[@jnick1909]

@@BikeLife154 damn I’m sorry that happened to you. I just went on a 20 miler today. I love mine!!

[@kris4645]

I clicked to see a bike and a review,and watched this guy's face the whole video 😑😐

[@rudyardganuelas6254]

Spends 8 minutes about an caad aluminum bike being too expensive to make sense; recommends the more expensive emonda aluminum bike anyway. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@petetube99]

Now in 2022 the CAAD13 has dropped to £1800GBP $2000USD. Having said that , I just got an immaculate used CAAD12 Ultegra rim for £500. New bikes don't make sense to me, they so overpriced it's a joke.

[@svfutbol20]

Found a lightly used 2018 Allez for $1500 USD

[@geraldtone5914]

Sprint or regular Allez?

[@svfutbol20]

@@geraldtone5914 Sprint, in Gloss Moto Orange, the best color ever! The Tektro brakes were junk and it shipped with R5800 but I’ve upgraded the rear derailleur and brakes to R7000 and the differences have been night and day.

[@santiagoarribas5368]

Amazing video! Hi, I have caad 13 105 . I'd like upgrade with alloy dt swiss ER 1400 dicut. What do you think about this? Do you change to carbon seat post and the same question for improving handle bar. Which handle bar do you recommend in carbon? Thanks a lot!!!

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Thanks. Do you have disc or rim brakes? The DT Swiss wheels are good, but I would get the 1600s if you can. Carbon bars? Don't bother not worth it. Better to invest that cash in better wheels. For the bars it's more important you are happy with the shape and width. Carbon post might add more comfort? Maybe? Hope this helps

[@santiagoarribas5368]

@@melbournecyclingsegments7510 thanks MCS! Between 1400 dicut wheels and 1600 spline, which do you recommend and why? 1600 is cheaper than 1400. Both are alloy. 1400 is lighter than 1600 . Cheers

[@santiagoarribas5368]

I have disc brakes .

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

@@santiagoarribas5368 looking at their website it seems the difference is the hubs and rim depths. I think the 1400 are probably better unless you want a slightly deeper wheel. Probably 1400 are the ones I think I would get. I imagine the 1600 are heavier due to the hubs being 350 and also perhaps the deeper rim option. But the 1600 are a lot cheaper. Either would be good, they make good solid reliable hubs and wheels

[@ichirofakename]

Next time ride the bike, please.

[@Pillokun]

Wait, you are telling me that the Caad13 is not using bsa, on an Alu bike? Talk about cheapening out...

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

I can understand a threaded bottom bracket might not lend itself to carbon framset manufacturing, but surely it is perfect for an aluminium frame. My current allu bike has threaded BB and external cables....a dream to maintain 😍

[@waynosfotos]

You can build a carbon open mould chinese bike cheaper with a better groupo. And won’t cry if you crash it.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

That's not a bad option at all. Those open mold frames from the more reputable manufacturers are getting some good reviews.

[@MrJayc1276]

Its cheap now 1,800.00. Who's cares about welds as long as its rideable. To sensitive

[@michaelupchurch3779]

I don’t like cannondales prices

[@telo666]

I buy my 13 for 1300$👌

[@andyicon5338]

Pick one up second hand

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

I haven't seen many second hand CAAD13 around here, maybe Cannondale isn't selling many of them due to the price/creaking 😂

[@Flyboard12345]

Haha, they claim this bike to be “carbon feel at aluminum pricing”, yeah, sure ))

[@elialexander-tanner5784]

lol why am I watching this guy walk around during a bike review. Get the bike bro then let's talk

[@dominicbritt]

Not budget bike - racing bike - see Crit racing....

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Mmmm, I'd be scared of crashing and ruining the frame. Maybe I'll race with my carbon bike instead... Sounds a bit backwards hey

[@AnatolyGatt]

My thoughts exactly - I have had CAAD10 105 for 8 years and it is simply amazing and brings shame to any carbon bike. But this CAD13 has ugly welds and way overpriced

[@Freedom47f]

Rode a CAAD 10 105 for ten years. It is a great bike. Brought home a CAAD 13 105 disc today. No time in the saddle yet. Had a CAAD 9 105 before the 10

[@veganpotterthevegan]

Shame to any carbon bike?🤦‍♂️

[@mreilly1325]

It's a No from me

[@Yanp87]

Cannondale is cool, Trek is not, went to the bike shop and they are already selling them fast

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Canondale are definitely are very innovative company. 👍