Lightweight Climbing Road Bike or Endurance Road Bike | What is The Difference?

[@holdenc1006]

It’s the single vid that gives the best analysis about the difference between a race and an endurance bike. In the whole youtube. More than a year and a half later then it’s shot.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Thanks bro

[@ljanmi187]

Best video i have seen about this topic so far! Thumbs up

[@wizkidcyclist9968]

Great video. This is really well summarized. Thank you so much for listing out in detail the differences.

[@christianlilleb451]

best video i have seen explaining the differences. If i had only seen this before purchasing a Aero bike.....

[@scottw4538]

Great video! Especially from a fellow Melbournian! This video really helped a lot in understanding the difference between the two. It's just a pity at the moment due to supply we don't have the full range of bikes to choose from.

[@OLICIT]

This is almost the perfect description of the difference between my Scultura 5000 (endurance bike) and my Bianchi Oltre XR3 which is lighter, more aggressive and faster handling and overall 👍

[@carloswolff]

Thanks for the explanation. That´s exactly I was waiting for.

[@havefunandbikestuffOver40]

Same boat. Raced 7 years on my tarmac and propel. I'm 37 now so not a spring chicken. Bought a friends specialized ruby that was my size and love the new found comfort it brings. I take back all the bad things I said about endurance bikes in the past when I was a racer dude. Great video, explanation and delivery. I think having both options race and endurance are great options. But if I could start over again, I would have gotten endurance bike 1st and raced on it...then maybe down the line I would've got a race bike. Would've made more happy rides along the way.

[@devonpeters9458]

I’m 34 and looking at getting my first bike. Hoping to cross train; maybe do a triathlon sprint and some weekend riding/light commuting. I’m looking at a 2011 Cannondale Supersix 105 Carbon for $650 and a 2013 Cannondale Synapse (I think carbon) and he’s asking $1k but is flexible on the price. I think I could ask around $750. Do you have any thoughts on these two bikes and if those sound crazy high for what they are? Can that Supersix function well for what I described? Thanks!

[@EatMyPropwash]

As an endurance junkie, I’ve got a triathlon bike which is ALL the aero, Caledonia which is so comfy, and looking at possibly adding a Trek Emonda or Madone for those days where you just feel like going aero, fast, and no F’s given.

[@Laringuette]

Truly informative, thanks so much. Just shopping for my next bike and you confirmed a few critical points for me. Thanks

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Great to hear and hope that enjoy your new bike ❤️

[@rodrodriguez5847]

Best so far explained. Thank u so much.

[@avip2u]

Thank you for the thoroughly informative video. I am getting back into cycling at 50+ after being out of the saddle for a few years. I need to catch up on the latest. I put almost 10,000 mi on my old Cannondale but I'm thinking it's time to retire her. Thanks again mate.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Glad you enjoyed the video and good to hear you are getting back on the bike.

[@dreyn7780]

Well this video is full of lies and wrong information. So you're getting back into cycling. How about realizing RACE bikes are NOT a good place to start. Maybe you want a heart attack straight away. Don't underestimate the high level of ability and skill level modern bikes require from the user. Ebikes allow you to tune the number of pedal strokes so you don't have a stroke.

[@davidcummings7735]

Great video, My experience has been a bit different to yours as I started cycling later in life. I purchased my first road bike for my 60th birthday, an alloy endurance bike, 4 years later upgraded to a carbon Giant Defy Pro1 endurance bike (heavy but comfortable). I now have purchased a lightweight climbing/racing bike a Cannondale Supersix Evo HiMod 2014 model. Realy love the Evo and am now using it as my primary bike for 90% of my riding I find it almost as comfortable as the Defy but the lightweight makes the hills that much easier, also I did put an 11/32 on the rear so I feel now I have the best of both worlds. Cheers.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

That's a very interesting perspective David. Thanks for the input, much appreciated. I think that both bikes can be tweaked either way to suit your requirements. Keep on riding mate 👍

[@jayeshudawat]

Thanks...I am about to buy a Giant defy advance 2...but head knoking with another one aero giant bike i.e propel...light climbing in my area is there... please suggest...ur experience will help me in touching line...TIA

[@albertbrighten5691]

I purchased a Trek Emonda SL8 carbon climbing bike from the Pro Closet. Wonderfully fast and spritely going up hills. Even on the slightest of inclines it would sprint ahead under the same power previously generated on the flat leading up to it. But I'm an older rider (60+) and the stiffness of the frame as well as shorter reach sent my back into spasm on rides longer that 15 miles. As I enjoy riding distance (40-60 miles) as much as I do the hills I gave back the bike in hope to finding one with more long term comfort. But I do miss the response, agility and quickness of the Emonda.

[@mark_nz]

Just picked up a giant deft advanced pro 2 2022 coming from a tarmac pro 2010 which climbed like a goat, and had me low and stretched out. Funnily I’ve found the defy faster maybe because slight aero or carbon wheels I dunno. It’s heavier so feels a little less nippy going up but for everything else I’d say it’s faster overall (according to Strava segments). Comfort for the win I reckon.

[@jamesthompson3336]

I like the smooth ride my Domane ALR5 gives me when I'm out alone ridding 75 to 80 psi in the tires. But that same bike if I pump it up to 90 to 100 psi is so much faster. I pump the tires around 95 if I'm in a group ride and that's enough to keep up with the group lol... I prefer a slow pace 30 or 40 mile ride (you would say Ozzie's 48 to 64k) Love your videos, you got a friend in the U.S.A.

[@brysonszy6306]

The Domane ALR doesn't have IsoSpeed right? IsoSpeed works really well, allowing the seat tube to flex away from the top tube. I rode an older version of IsoSpeed on my Domane 4.5.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Some great advice there regarding tyre pressures. Thanks for the input 👍

[@jamesthompson3336]

@@brysonszy6306 My Domane has isospeed in the seat tube but not in the cockpit. It is the 2018 model.

[@cliffordchaperon6795]

looking forward to another video

[@yc9166]

this is the most informative video I have found on KZbin as a beginner . Thank you for you help!

[@Arlenz12345]

I customize my steel semi pursuit mtb become roadbike with modified drop grip as main steering, saddle & seatpost TT bike, bigger rear tire, short crank arm & oval chainring. Now, beside for endurance for aggressive also did. Most importanly u can train your core body😁.

[@sandythemonk]

That's a thorough analysis! What's your opinion about Fuji Sportif 2.3? Do you think the Claris groupset on this bike might become an issue? I am planning to buy this bike new. Greetings from Austria.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

I'm hardly an expert and I'm sure Claris will be more than fine. But if you can afford it, stretch for something with 105. But more important is to ride and have fun, don't let equipment or financials be your limitation. It's you that is important

[@fadhilahamad3399]

This clearing so much of my dilemma

[@billuvill]

From my and friend's experiances if your body can't handle non endurance, you will not have much fun with endurance. Difference in mm for stack/reach will not compensate for weak back/shoulder muscles.

[@hazemmohamed4291]

very good video adding lot information ........... Thanks .

[@darrenbarlow5759]

Very informative video. I bought my 1st road bike in May (Caad12/105) and I love it. As my rides became longer and I learned more, I determined my next bike would be an endurance bike for more comfort. I was looking at the usual suspects (domane, defy, roubaix, Canyon endurace etc) but now the lines are getting blurred. The Supersix Evo can now fit 30mm tires and I'm told is incredibly comfortable, and bikes like the Cervelo Caladonia combines their race bike/aero bike with tires up to 34mm. It's hard to know what to do. Thoughts???

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Agree for sure. Even if I compare my TCR to my Emonda, the later feels like an endurance bike. Probably best to research properly and get a good test ride. I think also the carbon layup can greatly influence comfort

[@alexpenny3805]

Wish I had seen this video before I bought a lightweight climbing bike. I want to ride long days in the saddle more than anything, comfort is a more important to me. It's easy to get sucked in by the look of the race bikes. Live and learn I guess.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

I'm sure you'll be fine anyway, there was a time when a road bike was just a road bike and that's what everybody rode.

[@AngryVal]

Thanks so much for this - some genuine practical advice. As someone in his late 40s about to begin the transition to MAMIL status I have been staring at two Canyon's for weeks - the Ultimate CF SL 8 Disc vs the Endurace CF SL Disc 8.0. Identical price, so thinking for me maybe stick with an endurance bike to help me really enjoy getting properly into the sport?

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

What are you riding now? What sort of riding do you do?

[@AngryVal]

@@melbournecyclingsegments7510 Just starting out so building from 30-40km rides around Melbourne. Just enjoyed some great rides over Xmas break to Point Nepean and along Great Ocean road from Apollo Bay. But still getting my legs and doing it all on a flat bar road bike without clipless pedals!

[@kuttychelsea1]

Great one , I was too confused thinking about the speed which the lightweight bike offers but I rather stick with the comfortable ride instead. Thanks man

[@dreyn7780]

Well then you'd buy a metropolitan bike and stay away from all types of RACE bike. You wouldn't buy a 1970's RACE bike or a 1990's RACE bike or an endurance RACE bike. You're SO confused from male gossip that you don't even realize the endurance bike IS a RACE bike.

[@leggylessgaming8837]

Nice video mate. I got 7.30 down 1-20 today.🤪

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

That's bloody fast. I think there was a head wind too 💨🍃🌬️

[@leggylessgaming8837]

Focus cayo disc 2017 for $2200. Good first carbon bike?

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

@@leggylessgaming8837 sounds pretty good, I like focus bikes. If it's all 105 then it's a good price too

[@Takemikazzuchi]

Hello, I wonder what about the hybrid race and endurance road bike such as the Felt Z-series road bike?

[@gpuretic]

Very informative, especially the summary at the end of the video, tx a lot! Keep up the good work, let's give the GCN run for their money!

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Thanks bud, happy to hear that you found the video useful

[@dreyn7780]

Its all wrong information.

[@Soares20100]

Thank's.... I'm in the middle of what to choose. Enduro vs climbing. As i'm 53 years old confort made the difference riding 80 or 100 km. Can you sugest a model?

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

I compare quite a few endurance bikes on my channel in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ6pdH-Orb6pa9E

[@smedleybutler1969]

The very best video on the subject.thank you for it.

[@dreyn7780]

Wrong.

[@jonathandown9877]

Excellent video! Thanks for helping me begin to understand bike geometry. I'm 61 and have recently found cycling again; I'm riding a secondhand Specialized Roubaix 54 but at 175cm am on the borderline of a 56; interesting to hear the 56 is likely to be more comfortable. When looking at a brand new bike, I am torn between Endurance and Gravel; would I get the same comfort from a gravel bike as an endurance bike? Keep up the good work. Jonathan

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

A gravel bike would have even slacker geometry and possibilities for even wider tyres so I imagine it would be more comfortable. I'll be doing a full endurance road bike review video in the coming days too

[@andrewfilippone6245]

Great clip JP, sound advice.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Deep down I'm jealous of your Roubaix

[@dreyn7780]

Male gossips ARE wrong.

[@brianc401]

Great video! What would you suggest if you have very good flexibility, your in great shape, you love climbing hills and know the light-weight bike would be much better for it. But, your 46 and tired of your butt hurting all the time. I’m looking at the Specialized Roubiax Comp. But, if 33mm tires on a light-weight bike does the same thing, maybe that would be the best of both worlds?

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Maybe look at a different saddle? But yeah wider tyres will help too

[@detolerandisstultorum]

Great advice, but as ever he has a lot less viewers vs channels with big money behind like gcn. Those are sponsored so they tend to market stuff and give a lot less useful info.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Thank you for the kinds words. If you enjoyed the video feel free to share it on your social media. Maybe we can give GCN a run for their money

[@JPDynamics]

I am having a challenge in telling the difference between an endurance and climbing bike until i watched your video.. Thank you!

[@SassySkylar]

You provide very sensible advice! I’m older and less flexible. The endurance bike is my preference. Also the roads in London are congested so I wouldn’t be getting much speed here! Thanks for your helpful video

[@Bellerophon17]

As a newbie ro road cycling, that was a really helpful and informative video, thanks

[@dreyn7780]

Don't listen to male gossip. Its full of lies and wrong information. In a RACE your goal is to pass the other racers and win the race. In an endurance RACE you pass the other racers and win the race. Its got nothing to do with rough roads. You ride on the same bike path. You ride on YOUR race bike and your endurance RACE bike and your metropolitan bike and your BMX bike and your chopper bike. You ride them ALL on the same bike path. They offer you a different experience from each of their tunings. They have a different performance tuning. Same bike path, but you get different experiences from each of the designs. Its How you get to the office and what you feel like when you get there.

[@jayeshudawat]

Confused between giant defy and Propel🙄🙄

[@ethranton]

Great video, well explained and super helpful.

[@bremnet1812]

Great presentation. I have an aero bike, but I'm considering purchasing an endurance bike for those longer days in the saddle and all road situations. I find that with my aero bike, which is comfortable, there are those roads that I'll simply avoid due to the road conditions. Not that those roads are full of potholes, but they are older or not as well maintained. Therefore, you'll feel every vibration the pavement will throws at you. That said, I'm thinking I've been spoiled by the aero bike. With that bike it's like a Ferrari when you put pressure to the pedals in comparison to the endurance bikes I've been test riding. The endurance bikes just feel sluggish like a compact car. I do like your point ... Just own both.

[@dreyn7780]

Male gossip has ruined your life too. Your 1st sentence is all wrong. They're ALL RACE bikes. You approach the different RACES with a different performance tuning to the bikes. Endurance RACE bikes have nothing to do with rough roads. They're About YOU concentrating about YOUR performance at every corner and down every straight. Regular racing is about YOU always worrying about calculating and positioning in the pack of riders. You spend all you time adjusting measurements. We call it a game of centermetres. A game of inches. Its a MINDSET. You're allowed to endurance RACE around to visit grandma. YOU ARE going to experience the endurance RACE bike when you ride round to visit grandma. Its NOT a pleasant experience. The endurance tyres resist 80% steering wobbles. People HATE that experience from endurance tyres. They're NOT fun. They're not comfortable. Male gossip's suck.

[@cliffordchaperon6795]

really good

[@hermanhyde7000]

MCC gonna replace GCN for me

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Haha. I wish, but thanks for the kind words (MCS)

[@masterb8a]

Your a champ mate, I’m new to the sport and I’ve learnt a lot from your vids. Thanks

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Thank you for the kind words bro. And good sport to pick up.. Only been doing it a few years myself. Just get out and have fun

[@masterb8a]

@@melbournecyclingsegments7510 I’m from syd and desperately looking to purchase an endurance bike in 54…. Everything is sold out 😕

[@dreyn7780]

Its wrong information.

[@OmegaTryce]

this was super informative, thanks, esp that ending bit about buying both types. ahahahh don't put that idea in my head!

[@dreyn7780]

Its male gossip and full of lies and wrong information.

[@jamiepritchard3829]

Great video, thanks! I had my mind set on an endurance bike, but the first part of the video convinced me to just go for the light weight bike. Then you reminded me i'm 43 and not in the best shape so i'll stick with the endurance!

[@hermannfried7317]

Same with me! Very informative and well made Video!

[@dreyn7780]

You're thinking is twisted. A light weight climbing RACE bike is just that. Its tuned for doing just that. A light weight RACE bike is tuned differently and isn't compareable to the climbing version. Most of Melbourne is flat. The hill at Mount Waverley isn't worthy of a climbing RACE bike. Most of Melbourne doesn't require a climbing RACE bike to be offered for sale. I saw a dowhill mountain bike offered for sale in st albains. Now you tell me Where's the mountain in st albains? There is NO mountain in st albains. You're crazy just contemplating climbing bikes in Melbourne. Endurance RACE bikes are only about conserving your energy. They have nothing to do with rough roads. I've had enough of you lying salesmen. Its STILL a RACE bike. Its got nothing to do with comfort. Go buy the metropolitan bike and stay away from RACE bikes! You have NO idea what you're talking about. Buying 1 doesn't make you an expert. You're unwise and shouldn't be instructing people. The bike's height effects it's performance. A low bike will mean the bike can only transfer 20 cm's exiting a turn. This is inrelation to S bends in the roads. A tall bike can transfer 5 metres across the road. A low bike can't do that. You're BADLY effected by male GOSSIP. Endurance RACE bikes have nothing to do with comfort. They cause you to conserve your energy so you can reach your NEW goals. Your NEW goals aren't the same goals you had with regular racing. Your mind is focused on YOUR performance and this results in a MUCH longer race or self race or self enjoyment of the race type experience. You're very uneducated in this bicycle world. Think tuning for performance. Tuning for comfort, you're insane.