Cabin Finish Carpentry- Rough, Frozen Cedar Boards (Michigan Winter-Milled)

[@fundyroseflower]

Thank-you for numbering your episodes. It has made it easier to keep track as I catch up on all your content. This spring I’ve got to buy my first chain saw for my first attempt on a she shed-treehouse retreat on my wooded acreage. It will be a great place to shoot my photography from. Retirement project #1. Love your channel and your laid back manner. Have a great week!

[@peterdebad1]

Another enjoyable episode of the worm!. Thank you for letting us tag along. Peace!!

[@Newcreature1957]

So true. You inspired me to just give it a try. I’m a 65 year old retired woman . With no building experience but I bought some land and start to build my 12’ x 20’ cabin. That was October 2022. And though I’m at finishing the inside I spent my first night in it. It’s been a wonderful experience.

[@jgm9927]

Yes, you can do it. Good on you girl!

[@FritchFritch]

What?! Amazing. Enjoy!

[@markloechner9409]

Do you have a utube channel, I would watch it

[@jessicad83]

Morning Wormers!

[@ryantinder5922]

Enjoy your content. So fun to watch the stuff you do. Don't stop. Thanks for doing what you do.

[@halfabee]

If you take off a single board off the internal wall at the top of the wall all the way round it will allow the moisture to escape.

[@jenniferwhite6089]

allows the bug like bees to make nests inside the walls too i have bees inside of shop walls why do i know that laughing yes i have gold in them a wall of honey and bees too

[@jayjohnson3724]

If you put 2" foam board up under the ceiling, you would get an extra R11 , lose less heat, and make less ice. Ice damns are no fun. Everybody is an expert.

[@123turby]

And maybe wrap the whole inside with 6 mill poly when you take the siding of to plane it.

[@BB-gb3lj]

Agreed, 6:21 2” foam would be perfect!

[@katrinahampton5006]

I thought the inside looked good with the walls up but I’m surprised at how marvelous it looks now. You have inspired me to build so since I’m a little old to lift logs I’ve started making model log houses. Your inspiration has helped me go ahead with wonky designs. Thank you for your creative designs they are so inspiring.

[@donaldshields2483]

Not a good job but I wouldn’t expect anything but a good job from you so keep up the good work it’s looking very nice God bless

[@miguelmorales9667]

Yup, building a cabin in the woods, that's the plan for me. Let's see if I ever get to it. Thanks for showing me all the things that I need to avoid doing. 8-) Whatever you do, just please keep the videos coming out, they're such great fun to watch.

[@Itsnevereasyaspie]

Someone else mentioned it but when you burn propane what is left is water vapor. The more you burn the more moisture will be left in the air. When it is cold out there is little moisture in the outside air. Thus, the high moisture inside will try to migrate to the exterior dryer air. On the glass you see it because there is a clear delineation between the warm moist inside air and the cold dry outside air. The same thing is happening in your walls, to a lesser extent. As air moves out through your interior wood, the insulation and then the siding, at some point, probably when it hits the exterior wood, it will condense. You will need to get the moisture out or run a dehumidifier. Love the channel. Admire, what my dad always called, your gumption.

[@RMarie62]

Wow starting the furniture cannot wait to see what you come up with be happy be safe

[@rebeccasilveous8898]

We learn as we go experiencesbare the best teacher.

[@corvineskytography]

Your channel was suggested to me by my brother in law and after 2 weeks of binge watching... I'm finally caught up. Love the videos.

[@noshorts6076]

Byproducts of burning propane are carbon dioxide and water vapor. Which yall probably know. But that could be a large contribution for excess moisture. Air venting may be more important than you've expected. Not that you've asked for my 2 cents... I love this channel. Your channel is a Saturday tradition!

[@dawnbradrick6289]

In this crazy world you are a simple place.🌞to visit Ryan

[@aaknrbc]

Thanks for the upload. It’s weird, we have no snow here in St.Clair but you do. ☕️

[@williamlink5769]

I really enjoy our Saturday morning conversations with you. You make a lot of sense, It's my emotional health support ☺️

[@radagast6682]

On your cabin, the ridge vent is covered with snow. This prevents the airflow above the insulation. You need this to remove the heat in this space, or it will melt the snow and create an ice dam. I would suggest adding a different roof vent.

[@michelestellar7725]

Propane makes moisture in the air, wood heat on the other hand is DRY heat, and a nice little box stove is a cooking appliance too.

[@sandratweedale2579]

Yea Saturday morning with my buddy! Happy day and great work

[@marianfrances4959]

Beautiful yellow cedar! 👍😎🇨🇦🌲

[@edwardlefkow3442]

Really nice job on trimming the windows.

[@tburda823]

Ryan I BELIEVE (and I'm not an experienced roofer either) the ice damming is happening because of no ridge vent (or other roof vent). The air can't actually flow through the uninsulated part of the roof, so the heat that gets up there stays (melts the snow), and since the air can't escape, there's no room for cold air to make it's way in through the soffit vents. I think the vents you did are just fine, but you don't have air flow. You might be able to fix it by popping a couple gable vents on the ends. Maybe someone who has ANY IDEA what they're talking about can comment, but I very much like you would only learn by doing. Which I just learned from this video why its important to have proper roof venting. Thanks for sharing and explaining the ice dam problem you're experiencing.

[@JstJeff19]

Het Ryan looking berry berry good! I had heard somewhere that propene gives off condensation. Love your content! Be safe out there brother

[@Grunttamer]

Anytime anything is burned you end up with water and carbon monoxide/dioxide. I thought the heater he is using has an external air intake as well as an exhaust. This would keep the Water vapor and exhaust out of the cabin

[@brockm4047]

Here's a pro tip a friend of mine gave me. Use the speed square as a guide for the circular saw. Hold the speed square against the wood while cutting. Makes a straight line every time, no marking required. Used this when I built my cabiin in the U.P. Love your videos, hope this adds to your skill set brother.

[@radagast6682]

I like the way you do things because most things work good enough but, if you add a threshold under the door, it will make it easier to open. On the Threshold of a Dream 😂🤣

[@sydneyevans2637]

The wishbone piece will look really good. Some organic or irregular shapes will pop with all the linearity that's going on with the walls. Looking forward to seeing what you will design.

[@robertbailey2342]

I build houses and remodeling for a living here in Maine. More my point is I started exactly the same way you did! Much love from the coast of Maine💯🤙🤙get off the couch💯

[@majorpixchannel7146]

Awesome video 📹 as always, brother 👍

[@backpacker2417]

I started laughing, I said out loud, don't forget insulation around the window because I had noticed it earlier in the video that it was not insulated when you remembered that it was not insulated. love you videos.

[@bobeastrise]

I would highly recommend a vapor/moisture barrier over the insulation and under the interior wall/ceiling coverings

[@terriwilson511]

Yeppie let the fun begin. That cedar wood looks Beautymess

[@frankrightbrain]

Looking quite nice as it comes together.

[@judyrobinson9556]

Oh what fun it is to build cabin in the woods! The framing on the windows really looks nice.

[@randymiller1604]

Give yourself some credit you are a master carpenter and an expert in design the first thing I do on Saturday is watch you don’t forget to take a walk around your shooting range and show the targets who’s boss great video as always

[@et5222]

The wonders of chemistry: propane (C3H8) reacts with oxygen and forms water (H20), carbon dioxide (CO2) and heat. The CO@ get vented out. Ceiling idea. Keep the camp look and stretch a traditional wax canvas tarp across the ceiling. Staple it and then run cedar 1x3 batten every few feet across the ceiling joists Six walls/ceilings of wood can overwhelm.

[@dper1112]

The propane stove is a direct vent. All the exhaust, including water vapor, goes out the exhaust pipe.

[@jamestaylor8860]

Your knowledge speaks volumes thanks

[@et5222]

@@dper1112 in theory yes, but anyone who has used non electric vented propane heat (no forced air, no fans) will tell you about condensation, especially in a small spaces like RV's, cabins, etc when it is very very cold outside. It get compounded off grid when you have no power to operate any fans that can circulate air. A operable vent up high on one of the gable ends might help as it would let out, hot humid air as it rises.

[@dper1112]

​@@et5222 Vented propane doesn't move inside air out or outside air in. That's true for electric resistance heating too. They have the same implications for humidity issues, right? Unless your propane stove is leaky, in which case you better get that fixed.

[@mikecampanella1990]

Like someone else has said, take 2" foamboard along the ceiling and tape all the connections to air seal it. Install strapping to attach your ceiling. And you'll have a much better performing ceiling assembly. Adding insulation running perpendicular to your existing insulation would also be a big help. Together, super efficient. If you can air seal the walls from the exterior, then attach 2" foamboard, then the siding, it would save you a ton and add a lot of comfort. I would make sure to do the floor with batt insulation, then foamboard and tape the seams. At the very least, make skirting for all around the cabin and add foamboard behind it all.

[@leroybennett2754]

The inside of your house looks great! Leave them like that. WOW!

[@c.j.francisco2225]

I truly enjoy your videos; a wild man enjoying himself in the wild.

[@ejsocci2630]

Yes, so awesome and so so good for the soul and get and do it,

[@KelJayP]

Be sure to watch both the old and new Boss of the Swamp cabin underfloor insulation series using foil-backed bubble wrap that keeps you warm and blocks critters.

[@olavbjrneset5675]

Dont think Ryan ever reads comments. I totaly agree with your suggestion…uninsolated floor is kinda hopeless… Only thing worse is uninsulated celing… 🤓🥳

[@EternalDetroit]

I know exactly which vids from the Boss you're talking about -- great suggestion. But Ryan is a lot like my father in law, just start working and figure it out as he goes lol. It's the Yooper way. 😀

[@jeffreyjacobs6072]

Seems like a lot of KZbinrs aren't interested in learning from other KZbinrs!

[@olavbjrneset5675]

@@jeffreyjacobs6072 I think he expressed some toughts regarding comments in a vid lately….perhaps it was about not having give-outs and cons.. And the fact that Ringworm isnt online.

[@ncprospectors]

I had to stop video to see just how you made the floating table.....very cool. I can tell by your attitude that you are very content doing what you do by yourself in the woods. My hat is off to you sir. I love camping in cold weather and would be very happy doing what you do. Can't wait for the next video. 😎👍✌️❤️

[@clintonroushff7068]

I'm glad everything is coming together. I like it, under a pile of snow.....just the boards you need. It's like the chainsaw mill fairy delivered. Take care Ryan

[@LadyTSurvival]

When you use propane for heat... propane actually puts a lot of moisture into the air and that's where you get the condensation from, for the most part.

[@jessedavidson1521]

Just a couple peices of advice for the moisture issues. When you pull the interior wallboard down to plane in the spring, install some plastic between the insulation and wallboards. Second thing is those types of wall mount propane heaters generate alot of moisture when they burn. Not sure the best way to fix that unless you buy a new heater that intakes and exhausts the burn chamber to the outdoors.

[@paulklassen6486]

I believe the burner he has uses an exterior air intake and exhaust

[@gillie-monger3394]

@@paulklassen6486 It does. But that exhaust won't be enough to cope with the amount of moisture/damp being created by building with green timber plus using propane. Maybe when it eventually dries out completely and with a lot of added ventilation, (an exhaust fan in the wall or roof perhaps), it'll be fine. But tbh, he'll propbably have built cabin 3.0 by then!

[@jessedavidson1521]

Paul all I know is the open flame propane heaters due generate moisture. The types of heaters that would not create the moisture are the ones that burn internal like an RV style propane heater or the cheap diesel heaters. Either way Ryan I love the show keep doing what you are doing.

[@markbajor2623]

That ones does it!

[@bpatton3671]

I think I have a cheap easy solution for your edge ice buildup problem! If you took lightweight drip edge like aluminum and bent it into a right angle and attach it to the roof in line with the edge of the heated wall below. When you get out past the end walls that are heated, angle the ends down to help with draining away the melted ice. The drip edge just keeps the water from ever getting to the UN heated area where it could refreeze! The drip edge would also need a layer of roof tar to keep ice from forming in between the drip edge and roof! Hope that helps!❤

[@shellywinters1093]

I can see a furry friend curled up at your feet in that fancy cabin :D

[@fredcarter7003]

Nice and cold,,stay warm

[@brettdavenport8910]

Fun to watch what you do. If you use ice guard as an underlayment it will protect sloped roofs from water penetration due to wind-driven rain and water back-up resulting from ice dams Offers leak protection in trouble-prone spots like valleys, skylights, protrusions and other flashing areas

[@T0DDS]

Another great video Ryan! I like reading the comments because everyone tells you exactly how it should be done or tells you why things are happening. Invaluable community. I do agree with most who comment on insulating the floor, very important for that building. Although you're running propane, I can see where (even temporarily) a wood burning stove would do that building a tremendous amount of good. If only you had enough firewood to keep it going though.

[@radagast6682]

My house was built in 1959 and had the same kind of insulation as your cabin. I can tell you from experience, it's not a good enough vapor barrier. When you take off the wall boards to plane them, put poli over the insulation before replacing the boards.

[@johneisnor]

Love this channel, you are so real!

[@01Arcus]

I'm excited to see how the desk turns out.

[@MartinJohansson-nn5dv]

I made a comment in another episode, that i am worried about your roof and more things. Now you got a roof that is not moisture insolated from the inside and where the moisture comes from. But more importent is that when cold air meet hot air you got condensation . You have a non ventilated roof as it should be done, now there is a big gap with air between the insulation and the roof. There your condensation gone be and make your insulation wet. I made many tips for you in other episode so the next house can have ventilated roofs and walls and easy, quicker floor and healthyer house in the future and specialy for those how build there plywood houses. You can see that moisture comes from the inside of the house and you do not want that inside the frames around the house. Easy to see if you got condensation inside of the windows now, think what happends if you live there and heated it with propane, cook your food water for kitchen and bathroom. Most off people thing the moisture in the walls comes from the outside.

[@timothyweiss619]

Ryan, really starting to get to the final day. When you finally move on into your new cabin and you have time to go into town. Would be nice for you to have a quality chair for in there to rest your weary bones. May i suggest a really nice desk chair with a high back for reading or working on your bench. Anyway excellent work framing the window's & door's. Take Care Brother

[@dennisbeaver5958]

You’re doing a really nice job on the window trim! Just love the cedar you’re going to use for the desk, and other furniture!

[@karlmoore5724]

I would say you might need a vapor barrier. I'm not in construction but I've always seen it installed on new exterior walls. Just a thought. Love the content. Say hey to all the Survivors for me. 😊

[@newsnowriversidesgtrock]

A board off at the top and bottom will allow air flow and dry the interior of the walls. No mold.

[@goatman3828]

Add a layer of Reflectix between your current floor and the top floor. Will really help with keeping the floor warmer. And it adds verry little height. Also, if you can use dry flooring to keep shrinking to a minimum.

[@kittencollective]

this is what I want to do in my she shed, I hope he does it so I can see how it might be done.

[@grantsaunders]

Propane produces a ton of condensation. It will soak your insulation. I'd recommend a good quality vapor barrier and ventilation system. Or you can just replace the insulation every year? Love the videos! Looks like so much fun!

[@markbajor2623]

Hi Grant I believe with the Martin furnaces they are like gas fireplaces where they don’t exhaust inside!

[@grantsaunders]

@@markbajor2623 Brilliant!

[@nojnoj3069]

Hi Ryan..We all love your channel. I have a suggestion for you.... With your awesome skillset why not build a Yurt..?...The perfect winter building and totally nomadic.

[@MrStevo440]

Coming together nicely ... Another great video ..Thanks for sharing ..

[@genegreear4183]

I built a solar kiln last fall. It was fun. My wood stays dry now It doesn’t matter if it snows or is pouring rain. And I get to use my old tarps on other things. Later

[@davidskipperskip5403]

1/2 ruber glove fingers helps under your thin working gloves!😎or cloth tape works for me when it is freezing laying block

[@carol07643]

It looks great!

[@stanleykeith6969]

It Great to how this has all turned out. Do you think the moisture is coming from the gas heat. I used kerosene one winter and it adds moisture to the inside. Walls and windows will sweat. Burn one gal. of kerosene and it adds one gallon of water to the inside. Maybe it because the wood is wet or could be from the propane gas stove ? I hope you see this.

[@earlfortner7476]

Cabin looks awesome!

[@doncastor4807]

you need run a wood stove with hecka dry heat to dry that wood out without molding the walls

[@michaelmaynard8079]

I have thought the same thing. it seems like with all the wood waste he creates, it would be a no-brainer. Cheep and so cozy in the winter!

[@heathboeddeker5401]

If ya watched episode 120 of 121 he clearly says he won't do wood heat and his reasons why.

[@leonmarut7092]

bloody ripper job mate

[@ericallan1373]

Looks great Ryan 🤙

[@hangblague]

Good peptalk at minute 28. I also built a cabin in the woods while not being a builder. Great fun and very hard at the same time. Very satisfying, but I wish I knew how to build it cluster fly proof.

[@t.skalta3227]

No doubt your wood is drying and putting off humidity, but, in addition, propane produces very humid heat. A nice small wood fired stove would suck the humidity right out of the boards….

[@donnavickery9623]

Trim looks great !!!

[@rayboucher479]

No it is the sill you run out to outside of the trim framing .then the side trim will run to the top of the extended sill piece.

[@jtgrec3179]

If you're really concerned about the ice, take the shingles off going up about 4 feet, then put down ice shield, then put the shingles back on, that way you don't have to worry about the ice melting and going under your shingles

[@noyopacific]

Not that it matters but the strips of wood that fill the space between the door casing and the top trim boards are called jamb extensions, at least that's what I call them. Thanks for another inspiring video Ryan! 66.2K

[@orionlapalm813]

Ryan, if you use a roof rake after every snow fall, you won't get the ice build up. You only have to do a few feet on the edges of each roof.

[@stephaniedeegan853]

Nice job on the window frames

[@Pnut-wx1ue]

Thanks for sharing as always. Not hating but this is what i see. Ryan: don’t want to take the time to make wood storage and let it dry. Ryan: takes the time to do it all twice and spends extra money on caulking.

[@crabby2186]

You need to run a wood stone in there to dry it out some bc the propane is a moist heat. Just hook up a wood stove temporarily by running the pipe out a window

[@faithrada]

I like the idea of running a small "Temp" wood stove to help dry things out... burning wood sure does that. Plus having a small camp stove for emergencies could be a life saver some day. You never know what situations could arise. I'm a 'back up for my back up' kind of person. 😉 I totally GET the propane however for regular situations.

[@markbajor2623]

The Martin furnaces are like gas fireplaces where they don’t exhaust inside!

[@crabby2186]

@Mark Bajor I understand that but the propane in a moist heat where wood burner is dry

[@jeffbiddle3119]

everything is really coming together, the paint on the door looks good. i enjoy watching your channel. michygoss sent me months ago.

[@raewync5254]

Have a look at desk bed from hiddenbed NZ. It would be a great idea for your cabin, save on space and don't have to clear the desk when you roll it over to the bed. We love your videos here in New Zealand, look forward to them every week

[@paulmonk7820]

I prefer leaning to the right!

[@jvan6360]

Saw a guy swearing by aluminum bubble wrap as floor insulation. Installed between subfloor and floor. Easy and also helps keep out rodents.

[@tammygifford7831]

Good job Ryan

[@thomaschandler4831]

I like your ideas …. Do it 🏆👍👍😁💪

[@frankcheney]

"I love things like this that are super satisfying for no particular reason." That comment by you right there tells me that you shouldn't change a thing with the way you build your roofs. You'd be taking this joy away from yourself.

[@leonhart2452]

A roof rake. When it snows you use the roof rake to pull the snow off the roof. With no snow on the roof it can't melt and cause the ice dam. I have been using one for 8 years to keep my roof ice free.

[@mkeyx82]

How about using an industrial dehumidifier to get the humidity out of the wood? Mold is a motherefer.

[@daronheald6081]

great fun!

[@MrBrewner]

That bed looks like something you'd see in a sky mall magazine. Lol

[@thomlindgren6253]

Great video… I guess if you are editing you must be on the mend. Since you didn’t mention the broken ribs I guess all of this was done prior to the 2023 Rib Cracking. I hope Sara is taking good care of you. Does having the time out of the woods make your mind kick into higher gear about all the things you could/want to build in the future. Big chain saw equals big projects. Thanks for sharing and take care of yourself!

[@peterbull3955]

It actually would be pretty cool to see you try to figure out a worm-well!

[@CrimeVid]

A windowsill is cut out to wrap onto the finished wall, the architrave comes down onto the sill. The sill usually projects 1” past the architrave along the wall. generally there is no architrave under a sill, but, it is your hut.

[@markholmes1346]

Have you ever considered a vent on each gable end? I think it would help with air flow up in the attic area! Looks great with all the trim up Ryan, 👏 Have you considered building a Murphy bed? Would be nice to fold it up out of the way, just a thought. ✌🏼❤️🙏🏼

[@dsmith6442]

Ice shield, look it up, Ryan the very edge of the roof.

[@johnduncomb3519]

What I do is run the sill out to the full width of the trim. Looking good.

[@rayboucher479]

Maybe pick up some ice shield and use it on all your project roofs and it supposedly seals around all nails so you should not have to worry about ice dams or leaking shingles for 20 years.

[@Scott-zb6eo]

You've correctly identified the cause of your ice dams. Warm air inside is melting the snow on the roof. I don't recall if you used any eaves protection on the eaves but that would protect the roof deck from any rot. Adding a ceiling to the inside, insulating it to prevent heat migrating though to the roof, a vapour retarder to prevent warm moist air from getting to the cold side of that insulation, and ventilating the airspace between the ceiling and roof are the recipe for prevention. Or you could move ringworm to be Fiji, that would also work.