CAEDREL VS LS - THE ULTIMATE 5 GAME DRAFT - CAEDREL

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[@SimonOerslund]

This DEFINITELY has to be carried out by amateur-professionals with Caedrel and LS doing some pre-game coaching on execution of each of their team comps. 💥

[@mustaqimhadi6381]

I think each draft should be played out a few times to truly highlight the nuances

[@AlejandroLamKhoa]

@itsmecat tbh i'd watch these games over LCS any day

[@SimonOerslund]

@itsmecat - Even better! Thanks! 🙏🏼

[@topasposilol8263]

@@SimonOerslund KCX next!

[@jesusonascooter3397]

only if rito wants to. there's some strict rules about hosting tournaments especially if professional players participate as well

[@fiorane]

PLEASE DO MORE OF THIS!!!! You both are psychics when it comes to predicting drafts, and it’s probably the closest thing we’ll ever get to a coach LS vs coach Caedrel

[@shiny4534]

@fck peace someone didnt watch the vid lol

[@theo3854]

​@@shiny4534 did you see the stream? they literally took 20 minutes per draft

[@JesseIot]

@@shiny4534 its cut

[@hatakenewt348]

@@shiny4534 someone didn't watch the stream lol

[@sebastianmatarelli5602]

I think it's still very interesting to see what these two content creators think about top 100 champs. LS really loves his point and click comps. Bonus movement speed stacks additively so it's very abusive. That Udyr Strat falls off but he also drafted scaling with senna and Kayle. That instalock swain. Read cad like a book.

[@seanbat7387]

I want this to be real so badly. This would actually be interesting watch in pro play, instead of meta rock paper scissors.

[@tomwanders6022]

Proplay is sadly everyone just using Rock and rarely if ever trying paper.

[@jorgelenny47]

Riot could adapt this, but I think there should only be first ban rotation on game 1 (to avoid the absurdly broken champs) because else the pool runs out too fast. Second ban rotation is fine, because you dont want your comp to be ruined by one pick

[@shekcmh]

In a different time line, Caedrel coaches Vitality and LS stays at Cloud9. They meet at MSI and Worlds. The begining of the new El Classico between the 2 western regions that will last till the end of Professional League.

[@julseu_lol]

@@shekcmh never have i wanted to visit another timeline so bad with this scenario

[@ChuinYih]

@@shekcmh this here is my villian origin story, where I mess with multiple timelines and fucked up the world. All I wanted was some quality pro lol.

[@julseu_lol]

Great format. Something like the all-stars event implementing this instead of other handicaps would be good. It would allow the forgotten champs to get in the hands of pros again and be seen by the audience once more.

[@Awenevis1]

@fck peace Imagine posting your comment on every thread.

[@MK-il5vc]

@fck peace imagine commenting the same thing everywhere SADGE

[@nachoms007]

This is the change pro scene needs, more thinking on drafts, more excitement for the viewers, i think this is a win win

[@TheSayk]

This would have been even better if they gave in depth explanations about their drafts and the reason they drafted they way they did.

[@jeremypen7818]

I was really hoping for an explanation, i want to understand why and how they would work

[@auxilium6001]

yeah maybe if they defeaned in discord and talked to chat about their own drafting process including predictions

[@Eathization]

This would be such a fun mode at an All-Stars event!!

[@ljr1252]

That is actually an incredible idea, have these drafts played out by EU vs NA teams, that would be hype as fuck

[@FutayuriShironeko]

This should be Competitive Bo5s, At least Bo3s format.

[@cy5386]

Makes the heart hurt knowing we will never see these LS drafts on stage

[@pavement1346]

@fck peace players dont have to go through 5 drafts worth of picks and bans from previous drafts. A much larger portion of the champions are open for players, it takes LS a lot of time because of the sheer amount of champs that had already been banned or picked

[@davidthemax2942]

@fck peace if the game auto eliminated of the hud the champs it'd be much easier because then it becomes visual

[@KanohiVahi]

@fck peace Okay we get it, you don't have to reply this to every comment saying this would be exciting

[@malter87]

of course you can see them on stage... just not gonna see them in pro play anyone can make a stage 4fun

[@petterjonasson655]

This video made me sad knowing I will never get to see it :(

[@otoshithekid2957]

What does it take for LS to pick Renekton? Just remove 90 champions from the pool to make it playable

[@rolandfabik2475]

Ummm ackshually it was 96 not 90 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@quanganhbui1044]

Caedrel banned all ad solo laners as well lmao.

[@noreaup1732]

@@quanganhbui1044 sett was up

[@quanganhbui1044]

@@noreaup1732 So was Garen. I'm talking about real champions here, year?

[@henshaw33]

@@quanganhbui1044 muh boi kled though

[@falholt940]

This needs to be played and casted

[@yorujin_1121]

I like how when they both don't have anything to pick. Their comps start to look like proplay teamcomps

[@devilbhrothesavage2807]

Imagine this was the way league was actually drafted. It would be amazing to see what teams came up. Hell every proplayer with a small champ pool would immediately lose his job or atleast fall down a Summit.

[@mazorizk]

well they are paid tons for been the pro 0.01%. They gotta work for it. The top isn't for everybody.

[@whitevortex8323]

@@mazorizk yh but like the 0.01% isnt expected to play like 15+champs at a professional level. You also have to think about the hours invested in a champ, i would expect a minimum of 100k mastery points per champ, and some champs may require more like asol, annivia, gangplank, azir etc. Especially if playstyles differ e.g. control mage (viktor), dps mage(ryze), burst mage, (vex) assasin (qiyana). Besides by the time someone is a pro, they usually have a small champ pool with a exception of a few players like caps and faker. Someone can be a master of a single champ like baus and they are technically still valid.

[@hatakenewt348]

@@whitevortex8323 faker and other top pros play 15+ champs at pro lvl, why would want one trick pros that fall off a cliff when the meta changes like summit.

[@joaootxutxucao3990]

@@whitevortex8323 pro players can legit first time a pick on stage and make it work they just dont wanna do it and look bad cause "job security", if a pick can counter the entire enemy team or make it unplayable for them how hard can it be to execute it given u are already part of the 0.0001% if anyone can first time a pick and make it work is the best of the best, if this kind of drafting or something similar was implemented u can bet that first timing a pick would be much more common and something to be praised rather them frown upon

[@anto2699]

would be amazing if lec have this rule . it will make bo3 so interesting

[@vezuuu7980]

@fck peace but coaches would have match of time between every draft

[@theotheodorou1374]

Or bo5

[@Xyltin]

I love the idea of champs being unique and not reusable in a series. Now for a Bo5 that would likely be too much, but in a bo3 this would be great to watch.

[@EpicDBagger]

I 1000% want this to be how best of 3’s and best of 5’s are played from now on. If Riot makes this a thing I’ll watch pro play again.

[@JaceOKami]

the pro scene would be so much more enjoyable to watch when these rules applied

[@arismastro505]

@fck peace bro u answered to every comment humanly possible take a break and go touch some grass

[@13pipez]

Honestly i think of there are enough playable Meta Champs in the Game, this would already make sense for bo3s

[@Ogamra]

We need drafting rules like this in the League Pro scene so bad. Maybe I could pay attention to it for more than a season and a half once every 3-4 years.

[@LacrosseAlmighty]

Love the draft content. Maybe it should be only picked champions that are taken out of future pools so that the drafts are still diverse and bans are powerful.

[@delano131100]

But bans become more powerful the less pics aviable as the less champs there are the less champs there are that do a specific job therefor banning that out has more impact then when the champ pools bigger

[@MS31459]

If the bans werent taken out of the pool it would be likely that many of the bans would be the same every game.

[@KanohiVahi]

I was thinking too if at first it should be just one of the two and not both when pros adapt to it. But idk if it would then change much. Idk it is hard to speculate how it would be cuz things have been how they are for so long

[@TheJerbol]

that makes bans less powerful...

[@nilius90]

Or maybe take Picks and Bans from the winning team out of the pool - and the loosing champs stay in it - so you only lose 10 champs per game :)

[@fabioemanuelmeier5986]

Please it would be soo entertaining to see these drafts played out. Only with LS and Caedrel as coaches not casters, so that they can explain their intentios ect.

[@NamoPhoenix]

Riot should try this Format at the Allstars Event

[@c3_pulsar]

I would love the idea of a showmatch with those drafts. This was peak content already but that shit would be so fucking hype

[@Jack_Gibby]

This is like watching LEC pro mindset vs LS philosophy

[@Pookiebear]

Thinking about this idea, if they brought it into Pro leagues and implemented it it would make games so much more interesting and fun to watch because so many champions would get featured instead of the standard rotating handful un every position

[@danielkuncoro3684]

This similiar format is actually already a thing in the AOV Pro Scene that was called Global Ban Pick/ All Round Ban Pick, personally i thing this format is so interesting if adapted into LOL as well because it can push a team to thing many different strategy, maybe it can adapted not in the regular league, but special tournament like rift rivals etc

[@kasperkruse1925]

i could honestly sit here and watch ls vs caedral drafts all day long and i wouldnt be close to getting bored this is one of the best ideas i have seen in a long time thank you for making this :D

[@williamwhite8667]

Wish they would do this each week for the LCK or LEC match of the week.

[@TiloDroid]

this was such a headache and it was the best league content ive seen since tsm draft dystopia, love you two guys

[@Ter0zak]

all you had to do is disable 96 champs to force LS to pick Renekton

[@h2wht69]

Need this for the future draft rules in pro play. Even just implementing the you can only play the champs once in a series.

[@alexchadwick6748]

Yeah, take out the bans stopping them from being picked and this turns into a cool format.

[@chattr7450]

need more of these man, such good content

[@bluntbangs]

I actually kinda want pro play to actually be like this, but maybe with only one ban rotation. There are enough viable champions in the game now that you can pick 10 viable team comps without it feeling completely troll. It would definitely increase entertainment, and in my opinion, it would also reward creative and adaptable players.

[@fluxfl]

ls said they will do this with na pros and invited tarzaned too

[@bielovvlad888]

Please moreee, such an amazing thing to watch

[@dodotower8375]

This is a really cool concept would be so cool to see a tournament bo5 with this format like in the allstar games

[@mustaqimhadi6381]

We went 5 drafts with veigar 0 presence, the church has plunged into darkness

[@DavinFIGJAM.]

Banned in game 3

[@mustaqimhadi6381]

@@DavinFIGJAM. im blind nvm

[@jalinmiller6635]

I would love to watch this honestly, PLEASE MAKE OT HAPPEN

[@PixelVillain]

I would 100% watch that series.

[@CCLethe]

What if this was in competitive. Once a champion has been picked or banned it can't be used for the entire series. Or a rule like, each team can only pick each champion once in the series(other team can still pick the champ next game but the team that picked the champ can't).

[@DragonCraft07]

I know there was the quick explanation at the beginning of the video but I’m still confused, what exactly is this draft for?

[@shojinsensei]

with the amount of champions we have now, I really want this for competitive play

[@Darkyryus_]

GOD WE NEED MORE OF THIS.

[@tchaipo9179]

Good content good job !!! Need more of this

[@freebeeworld]

This would be so entertaining to watch, great idea to see some pick diversity and spice it up

[@dex_6698]

I want to see those games. pls

[@rocapbg9518]

This has been suggested for months to Riot and they still haven't even a hint that they will be implementing into pro-play so Caedrel and LS are out here taking things into their own hands

[@huynguyen-gl4sn]

Imagine MSI having this format 😎

[@gadgets__]

I think this is super interesting and fun! Though I do think only picks should be locked out. This means youd eventually have to play this minigame of picking the things youve banned eventually as counters fade away. Also it's just more realistic to not have bans be locked out because a lot of pro players are champion limited, I think it's unreasonable to ask a player to go possible 20+ champions deep to pick something.

[@3monightmar3]

Sub wars with that draft would be hilarious

[@nope7200]

In an alternate timeline we would see these crazy picks

[@despicableglowee5207]

i was hoping for draftting content like this and if you accualy find teams to play it would be amazing

[@anthonyxylinas7050]

I wish so badly they could both coach pro teams

[@biktorakis123]

Such a good idea for best of five

[@이경식-s1d]

More info) On the first p/b game, red side's name at the top is named "Son of a bitch"

[@RedLuigi235]

I would pay money to watch pros have to play 3 games of this, they'd shit their pants.

[@The_oli4]

It would be so cool if this could be played by pro's at the all stars for this year with both LS and Cadrel as coaches. This is an event that would fit right along with the other events that happen there.

[@jjason000123]

WE NEED TO SEE THIS GAME

[@samuelstrunk5525]

I like the concept a lot. Though I could also see it done as a variation, where bans are gone for the whole series but picks only for next game. Therefore you still dont get like the same drafts, since there are still more and more bans, but its not like 100 champions being unpickable in g5. Idk fun stuff, would like to see this stuff played out.

[@athena3234]

The renektonnnnnnn 😭😭

[@rodrigueznicolasfernando9046]

Man i'd really love waching this games with amateur team and you and LS Casting

[@dodoliy4678]

This would unironically boost viewership of competitive league.

[@ChessHistorian]

If you guys do assemble squads, it's gotta be Cathedral's Team "Holy Spirits" and LS's Team "Last Light"

[@xayahdupont2709]

PLEASE cast and coach that game. Would be so awesome.

[@lazydk2654]

Do an LEC or LCS draft of players to match this, so for example caedrel can draft Caps to play mid game 3 and so on. And have the pros play these cursed matches

[@tiger5869]

I want to participate in draft battles like this we need these two to be judges for a tournament of drafting

[@okenough123]

getting the amateur teams to play these drafts out now would be so fun to watch

[@WhettoWen]

I’m sure you could find lots of amateur teams to play these comps, great publicity and expierence

[@andrewdiamante2266]

Keen to watch these games played out!!

[@HSFJepsen]

Ask some amateur/academy team to try em out for him. Winning team wins $1000. $500 from Caedrel + $500 from LS

[@zephyrod7307]

I’d be super curious to know what LS’s round 1 draft is supposed to do. Like he had a lot of champs to chose from and bard mid is an absolute enigma to me. Just giving azir free farm in exchange for roams?

[@arthuryan2412]

high quality stuff, best content so far

[@borislavkoynin9089]

Sub wars with pros that are willing to play the picks?

[@Jooohnm]

I'll wait for these games

[@rvdandmarcoom]

That would be one of the most awesome BO5 to watch ! IF there is some level within the teams (like, not the substitute academy player from university league NA ...)

[@TH-dg2mm]

Can someone just give LS team so we can watch these team comps lol

[@defectivepikachu4582]

its like tft but for the part of the game before the game

[@eddieoneil2919]

Imagine an international event played by these rules

[@ViperDivinity]

Imagine Caedrel and LS mind breaking each other on drafting in professional games... It is really a pleasure to see

[@alexisdeplanta5540]

So sad they never picked Fizz 😅 The champ just hasn’t been competitive for sooo long.. 😢

[@ryanroberts5449]

Now imagine like an all star game best of 5, each game a different set of players, with only Ls and Caedrel drafting with no player input, get 1 point for a draft victory(voted on) and 2 points for match victory, could also be draft style to decide the teams

[@YoshiroPoh]

Though I only follow G2 as a casual viewer, this is really making it really interesting to watch....

[@bastianventura]

A lighter version of this would be awesome to see in a competitive setting. Maybe bans that carry over throughout the series? Or a maximum of two appearances per champion during a whole BO3 or BO5, counting a strike as any pick or ban for that champions

[@oxey_]

actually fun content would 100% watch these games if they were played

[@dantespekken3549]

Probably a dumb question, but could you r4 Sylas in the last game as support (potentially mid flex)? Letting seju go jungle or top

[@TheSayk]

This felt like they were playing chess but with league.

[@michaelwalker7809]

definitely should follows those plans, maybe see if some retired pros who are now streamers will play by chance??

[@serx4994]

9:44 This is a certified "People who don't know vs people who know" moment

[@koreanata6951]

I can't wait to watch actual teams trying these drafts!!!! I bet any minor region teams would love to do this. And it won't be BO5, but all 5 drafts? HOT!!!

[@flyingsquirrel1486]

this would be sick to see it irl

[@nicholaskaprielian3379]

So I am only three and a half minutes in, but I really wish you guys would discuss the reasoning either during or after and maybe do odds of winning

[@darkjackl999]

What I learned from this is if you cut out over half the roster, renekton is a viable pick

[@GIRUUUR]

Kinda funny how viego didn't get pick/banned until draft 4 , prooves how bad of a champ he became compared to what he was..

[@hatakenewt348]

He is still picked in actual pro play wtf u on about.

[@gustaaavo]

Viego is the Ryze of the jungle. Riot will never stop nerfing even tho hes dogshit just because pros love him

[@GIRUUUR]

@@gustaaavo fk riot mab

[@jirilaska9788]

This is peak content.

[@hoanglongnguyen9166]

this stream was banger from start to finish

[@fellnase98]

I'm averaging silver in ranked but I would LOVE to play in these matches that'd be banger games being low elo

[@cloudenvier2260]

Oh yeah sign me up, I wanna see these games!

[@PabloLopez-tz2zq]

Holly fuck that was good, i think it should be the first 3 permanent bans only, and the second bans regular.

[@yas2ne19]

I'm sure KC will be down to try this

[@tacci2568]

what a fun it would be if they actually made a rule about only using a champion once in a series would make professional play more diversive

[@andresantos7120]

I love this content, but could u both give context to why are u picking like that? That would be great, it is hard to follow and understand

[@settdunk6430]

There are 3 reasons you pick a champion in pro play 1. It is broken and does a lot of damage 2. It has good utility and roam potential so you can get the broken champion ahead 3. It is a flexable pick that is hard to counter Look at LS first draft Kayle top as his carry and Bard mid as his roamer He also has Senna which is another carry and Udyr with a strong early presence to pull the team together Sona also has an insane late game This team comp plays out with them being passive while Udyr and Bard try to make plays and outnumber the opponents and in the later stages Kayle + Senna is unbeatable and they also have a Sona to top it off while Bard and Udyr are kinda ussless apart from their CC and some pick potential

[@sebastianmatarelli5602]

@@settdunk6430 also pick that counters enemy comp like swain in game 2. LS read cad like a book in that draft and locked in the swain early. Swain would feast that game into all melee.