Why Years of LOSING Helped EDG WIN VCT

[@theunnamedplane5563]

that is quite the thumbnail

[@oah1943]

edg do play like clueless monkey the last 2 masters

[@ssss8162]

@@oah1943 Who's the clueless monkey now? Hint: Look in the mirror

[@ssss8162]

Yeah coz EDG pretty much shit on every team in NA and EMEA. Womp, womp

[@ssss8162]

yeah hidden racism is still racism. keep up the good work NA.

[@genn8062]

@@ssss8162Lowkey i dont think he meant to be racist, I didnt even think it was racist until I saw this comment

[@GambleNats]

W thumbnail, kk truly is the peak of human evolution

[@ssss8162]

Well thats what it means after he took a huge dump on all the NA and EMEA teams

[@pheonixalier]

One of the best videos on EDG champs. This video covered their team the most out of all the others I've watched, and really looked into their journey not only highlighting player-wise, but as a team, with tactical and team-building insight. There's a saying that improvement is not linear. People said it was a 'slump' and the 'end' for EDG, but I've always said that 'slump' was them improving. This trophy was a long time coming, but they definitely deserved it this year.

[@ssss8162]

Fact is nobody really truly knows game.

[@AleyaBY]

Props to you, bro. This is by far the most thorough analysis of EDG since they entered the international stage. I've seen videos that were sometimes a bit inaccurate, but this one’s the real deal. You even provided evidence of the incremental changes they made, with before-and-after comparisons of their gameplay, showing how they improved and whatnot. I also liked that the video wasn’t just about KK-you highlighted the strengths (and weaknesses) of the other members as well. That said, I wouldn’t mind if you made a video focused solely on KK. Just saying, in case you plan to make one in the future. Afterall, he is the GOAT. Anyway, I agree with you on a lot of points-especially how EDG trusted the roster they had at the start (with Smoggy) and made a few adjustments to address what they lack. Building and maintaining team chemistry is an invaluable asset. To add to your video, I’d like to emphasize the impact of the IGL change as well. As someone who watches the minimap a lot, I think Nobody’s calls had a huge impact, supporting the team’s individual mechanics. Their calls, especially in that last round at Sunset against SEN, were spot on. Smoggy did a great job sealing the deal. It truly shows how much EDG has grown from their losses earlier this year. It's just like that 5-26 never happened. In my opinion, the turning point was their match against PRX. That win boosted their confidence, helping them dominate through the grand finals as the top seed and eventually take it all. At least, that’s my take after watching a few minutes of their translated documentary.

[@sohhyuna]

Love the analysis. Pointed out a lot of major ideas I had when it came with the direction of EDG. As soon as I saw them back in 2022, I thought they had the potential of the former DRX squad; excellent team play and quick executes. I was a bit skeptical swapping out Haodong since to me he was China’s MaKo, but Simon was definitely the missing puzzle piece. Great video

[@spencer4679]

The real evolution was kangkangs hand tape

[@mzllrr]

whats really interesting is that its actually therapeutical and helps alleviate the pain from excessive movement in his arm, definitely a game changer for him because he's had those pains for a while. iirc he was a fencing player

[@Agertar]

Man you're my favorite Valorant KZbin analyst as you don't go over rounds, but concepts as a whole. Never even got into Valorant but you're content always makes me feel like a tactical genius (yes I know if I actually tried to play I'd be like a deer in headlights but I can dream). Keep up the awesome work, and I'm excited to see if 100T will recognize your skills!

[@yivan2526]

29:03 I wouldn’t call it a rumor. Both Haodong and Alecks confirmed it

[@mzllrr]

he also left out a major input in that rumor at the time, being that prx used the comps of the teams EDG were going against and mimicking their play-style which is really interesting to know because this might be a game changer for prx going into next season and figuring out their role issues

[@murkybu]

TH coach neilzinho also said on stream PRX offered to scrim them as well after getting eliminated

[@hoopbully]

EDG’s Kayo, Sova, Cypher, Omen comp is so strong, it literally has everything you need. Play making, info gathering, flashes, counters, delays, lurk, it’s almost like the dualist position is going to become just a flex spot in general where you go hey man you’re good at the game play whoever you’ll be the most cracked with.

[@mzllrr]

or play whoever was broken at the time, which was neon

[@roelofsonneveld1049]

What’s the 5th agent? Can’t quite tell which comp you’re referring to haha sorry

[@halalola432]

Meta comp for a reason

[@retrofying4761]

​​@@roelofsonneveld1049I think its the Abyss meta comp, can also be the Ascent comp as well. 5th agent is usually Jett

[@sleefy2343]

@@mzllrrneon became popular after it was used in champions Now everyone started using neon cus of zekken and zmjjkk

[@n1luq]

This video really shows how qualified Platoon is for a francshise coaching position. In my 3-4 years of looking at valorant esports content. Platoon is the only one that I believe has the eyes for it. His insights are a quality asset that a top coach should have. He uses all sorts of tools to help analysis, stats, teamplay, chemistry, mechanically. You know how some people only look at stats to assess a team? or just looking at comps or looking only on the individual players? Even if he may not have the experience for it, his knowledge about the fundamental of creating success in deeply rooted. I hope to see the fruits and flowers of his work eventually. The best tress will eventually produce the best fruits. Right now, Platoon has establish the roots and the stems. I hope that you find your success, wherever, whenever it is. Even if I am some random user on youtube comment, I appreciated your valuable insights, from the bottom of my heart.

[@halalola432]

Tdawgg also has a great understanding of the game even tho his videos go sometimes for a more comedy type analysis. (He’s an igl for a challengers team)

[@tokipt2]

​@@halalola432tdawgg is so good i wish more people watched his videos

[@another7674]

He prolly makes more money off this KZbin channel then he would as a coach. Ands less stress

[@another7674]

@@halalola432tdawgg is so insightful. He actually helps you get better he focuses on fundamentals so much I really get a lot of value for my actual games

[@iamnotluisokay]

this might be the best video you've made yet. great work brother!

[@bootao1671]

Best video on EDG's Champions journey!!! Keep up the good work👊

[@nikhilbhagat7685]

Love the video as always.....can you also make a video on why PRX looked better with monyet than jing and why they looked better last year with jing and they looked lost this year when everyone thought they might win everything

[@vyx7129]

omg platoon upload

[@tszsysnapse1599]

thx for your explanation of this! Now it makes sense for everything

[@AUG_Glow]

The thumbnail was actually really good

[@ssss8162]

He should make another video of NA and EMEA teams going the other direction. That will be pretty funny

[@nya5260]

Genuinely a great video

[@PluginArtz]

Grind, Future, A BEAUTIFUL STAR

[@babusseus1105]

It really felt like EDG went from decent to the best within a month. Awesome video like always!

[@LollipopLop]

They add Simon too in a month

[@cl_0ud470]

Kangkang peak human form confirmed according to the thumbnail.

[@bryanmulcare9083]

EDG was first scene in Champions Berlin, 2021, they weren’t successful and Champions, Istanbul, 2022 were also weren’t successful. And then they pop off in Top 8 in 2023. Didn’t win in champions Los Angles, 2023. And finally clutch it out with the new roster, finally wining champions Seoul, 2024. Made respects to Kang Kang. And Congrats to their first major win this year. Edit: S1Mon is their best sub this year for setting up towards success. Even if he low frags, his execution for his team was something unheard of. I couldn’t fine any research for EDG participating in Champions 2021 unfortunately. But I really thought that they were the only Chinese team came Berlin.

[@badgoodboy9437]

Underrated video ，Bravo！

[@staygoldpwnyboy923]

this is top notch val content

[@aaronpua2630]

you forgot to mention the never before seen strat of using the first map for aim training so you can win the series overall, gg edg

[@t1ko677]

When everyone doubts you, you get used to it, but you eventually work hard to silence everyone. What a great story. EDG may no longer be strong in the future, but this championship is of great significance

[@misosoupings]

w platoon upload

[@小花笑-w4e]

The original head coach After said in the post-match interview of the Shanghai Masters that he could not verify the strength of his playing style in CNvct. Therefore, most netizens believed that he was evading responsibility. He was attacked by a lot of public opinion and had to retreat to the background. In addition, Newcomer s1mon was actually recommended by after.

[@platoonval]

It's unfortunate that he was a part of so much of their team's development and was let go at the final moment, but he definitely deserves credit for a lot of EDG's progress over the years! Hopefully he finds a good role next year.

[@jimiyu.]

@@platoonvalentire edg roster has been praising after and talking about how much of the current teams foundation was created by afters coaching and ideas if the edg players are that vocal about after I think it’s likely he still has a very good reputation within the scene even if netizens continue to do netizen things

[@荡荡-l2i]

bro,in edg's new 纪录片 Simon say not After but 二队的 coach

[@marcdebatle6629]

Yooo Platon I would love to see a breakdown on why did Team Heretics lose 3 finals on 2024. I feel like it could be a good video!

[@olsialla5275]

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[@niofruit]

The Tacticsl Evolution of EDG and KangKang

[@singularneo]

Every since champs 2022, I had a dream

[@shuzhan9684]

Ever since from Tokyo masters from KangKang being oping God to being the best hard entering duelist in the world.

[@icyFPS]

great video

[@mopp782]

Thumbnail is wildin

[@JR-cm9sh]

this is not a surprise. asian teams have next level work ethic and dedication. something the spoiled rotten NA scene could learn from

[@crypmama8339]

every video i watch i wonder how you only got 35k subs

[@deviazn]

wild thumbnail 💀

[@casterr1571]

I always found EDG cracked just not able to beat the top tier teams who've been around t1 longer but they proved themselves as some of the best.

[@ImTheProblem_x]

the thumbnail is CRAZY

[@ssss8162]

its not crazy, its just racist

[@tomlin6554]

Waaaayy better than TMV's video. Nice one!

[@Davinki651]

Isnt Edg vs Sen a noteworthy game to cover? That was pretty much the turning point that started Edg's run to finals

[@sleefy2343]

It was prx that they won that started edg form To become Soo powerful You can even see it in trace and Sen when they won

[@sleefy2343]

After that they beat aspas and lev And then th

[@Davinki651]

@sleefy2343 yeah prx was definitely the litmus test

[@_proxy5]

very good vid

[@Ghost-pm9yr]

EDG ARE THE GOATS

[@jinsanityy7379]

W vid

[@ELMcNuggetzCucuy]

wanted to see benjy win! :(

[@voyagersentfromearth]

People just find comments to hate on edg's success, its too funny

[@sleefy2343]

Exactly Even evil geniuses got hated after they bested the best teams In the world

[@leiuwu3965]

basically ranked 5 stack to vct

[@qinglong424]

if you translate this video in chinese and uopload it on a chinese social media(you can contact someone who has already an account with subs)this video would blow up

[@ЕфросинияКуклева]

508 Lisette Trail

[@otakuhero2621]

They needed a white jersey

[@KaroleCockerhan-y1l]

Samson Island

[@itsstorm_szn]

This might sound condensending, but I honestly don't have high or really any expectations for either EDG or China as a region next year. I saw EDG play the best in the finals and played at possibly their peak performances. However I still feel like teams last year such as Heretics/SEN/Lev/G2/FNC/GenG had higher consistency and expect them to have higher peaks in the future. Outside of the final, I felt like Heretics showed the best gameplay overall and feel like many other teams are upgrading this off-season. I doubt this year will really be a turning point, but fear that EDG is going to fall off to even worse positions in the future. Especially with this year being so volatile with agent/map changes, it really evened out the floor for China overall.

[@ssss8162]

Clearly lots of NA, EMEA fanboys are still crying about EDG winning Champs.. Womp, womp lol

[@reality6401]

Who is Edward and why is he gaming?? 😐

[@AmyHernandez-s9q]

Erdman Villages

[@mf_footages101]

Seemoan is the goat man

[@pedrohenrique1960]

São Paulo

[@youarebeingtrolled6954]

What happened with Valorant is gonna also happen with semiconductors😂

[@PalmerZora-e1s]

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[@gaoaibai6243]

Kinda strange why you didnt put G2 in, the only team that has decisively beaten them in the entire VCT Champs. I personally think sth "ticked" when they lost that third game to G2, it felt like EDG was finally gettin what it takes to be the word champions. Without G2 I do not think EDG would win VCT Champs at all, especially if they came up against LEV like when they did vs FUT. No offense but EDG pre-G2's loss is a completely different beast than when they were beating Team Heretics in the finals, and without that G2 loss I think Team Heretics (prolly LEV is more likely tbh) would of been crowned VCT champs instead of 4 times losers..

[@shafialanower3820]

G2 got embarrassed by fanfic and lev

[@dhekanlavida3979]

4 times losers u mean heretics?

[@irishsamin9397]

g2 is complete trash can only farm prx because prx comepletely fail of this year against a good team g2 shit their fking pants so no need to put g2 on the video

[@voyagersentfromearth]

What do you mean decisively beat edg?? Edg should've won that match 2-0 they were up 11-9 on attack haven even after choking that G2 barely won bind 13-11

[@LeightonEdwina-k5f]

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[@wolfgangoppenheimer2905]

You ignored the biggest (literally) factor for EDG WIN , which was ARDIIS . HE MADE THEM WIN . BRICK BY BRICK

[@jotarokujo1414]

ardiis crazy humor fat man

[@iisaaaaa]

"Going to Champions 2024, nobody thought Edg would be a threat" only him? Glad that everyone else thought they were a threat.

[@redballoon2380]

Neon is the reason why EDG looked good at champs. Kangkang has been dominating with her ever since Riot decided to make her overpowered. Once she gets nerfed, EDG wont be as great anymore

[@shafialanower3820]

That is the dumbest reason ever

[@kuboN-k5y]

wdym? this is not fking reason, kk can play neon why other team cant play neon?minibot?zekken?aspas?

[@redballoon2380]

@@shafialanower3820 then why is edg destroying teams after neon buff? not a coincidence??

[@spiiralwya]

ah yes this the type of guy who says chamber made yay 🤣

[@rustyastronaut3118]

its buffed for everyone not just edg.

[@Chalino93]

What do you mean 2g is the best team in the world

[@AjaniTea]

No views in 20 seconds? Bro fell off

[@Burpingtogheter]

Edg aren't the best itw, very good team that had a massive run in champs, repeatable? Unlikely. top 5 team? Maybe.

[@jimiyu.]

I think having the best performance in the biggest tournament of the year qualifies you for the title of best itw you could argue semantics about which is the best team on paper all day long without a conclusive answer but by the results edg was the highest performing team at the end of the year

[@Burpingtogheter]

@@jimiyu. no, no it doesn't winning a competition doesn't automatically make you the best in it, beating another team doesn't automatically make yours better. Can you argue they put in a once in a lifetime performance? Of course, I'd also point out most of the big teams failed to ever truly hit the ground running at champs. This is common knowledge amongst sports fan btw, the best team doesn't always win. Mind you, there's no shame in making that mistake, but it is, nonetheless, a mistake

[@Twisted7346]

FIrst :)

[@lontongpetir7852]

so EDG once a monkey (according to the thumbnail)

[@jordan-eh8ni]

Edg sucks. How can people even acknowledge them as a good team when they just abused neon to win champs. When she actually gets proper nerfs I doubt they will ever place high again

[@Rajputrajx]

India 🇮🇳 is far better than china.

[@tszsysnapse1599]

I bet you didn't watch the video poor guy 😅 every season of this game has a version, this season is the neon version, so you need to keep adapting the version into your strategy, every teams know but not many of them can totally adapted and put it into the overall team tactics. After the version changed, why don't you think edg will not adapt it again just like they changed jett to neon this year ?

[@robloxguard6948]

what are you yapping about ?? KK literally played Yoru , Jett on icebox and other maps and still won ????

[@voyagersentfromearth]

Well other teams are allowed to do the same why didn't they do it then??? It's like saying optic abused chamber on every map to win masters

[@jordan-eh8ni]

@@voyagersentfromearth nv/optic placed 2nd in berlin before chamber existed. edg never did good in any event until now

[@ghostking44]

25:00 this is actually untrue. Haodong flexed to initiator a lot during 2022, it wasnt until lock in that he stuck purely to controller

[@platoonval]

He definitely flexed it from time to time (and a lot of other agents) but he was definitely not naturally suited for that role, which is likely why they swapped him to controller after LOCK//IN like you said. A lot of players play a role to make their team work, so I still wouldn't call Haodong an initiator player before I call him a controller player.