NEMESIS VS NOWAY4U - DRUTTUT FINALS - CAEDREL

[@xenobolt3459]

anti-spoiler plant deserves all the watering and sunlight possible

[@nr5von15]

This is awesome

[@moritzspooren1731]

I just want to thank Drututt for hosting and organising this event

[@rafakgm]

do it then

[@harihari-ou9in]

yes do it support him send him your money this was only possible to his money if you want more give money so he can put more money in

[@luma7777]

Thank you Caedrel for putting the little bit of of filler at the end! Finally someone does this. The 4th game was genuinely still enjoyable too watch because I didn't know if they would win or not

[@DJ_SB_JKPG]

Dom started it with the BLG/JDG series iirc

[@Donerverkaufer1]

Nah but where was Noways 1v3 Triple on Midlane?

[@SilencedButNotForgotten]

The editor is a Nemesis fanboy or Noway hater...

[@Stevenator546]

I didn't watch much of this tournament outside of your content, but from what I've seen I feel like this tournament proves the potential of Fearless draft to create fun and interesting competition. I really enjoyed getting to see everyone play a new champion each game, as well as the strategy of "taking away" certain picks from the other team

[@peterosborne8315]

My only issue with it was the fact that we still saw the same matchups again and again. Maybe its just cos I watched all the scrims as well but watching the baus play Quinn into Malphite for the nth time really sucked

[@VinJ17]

@@peterosborne8315 what? your issue is the fact that they're still playing meta or their one tricks against each other? Like they wouldn't do that if it wasn't because of Fearless? So you dont like Fearless because the champions they have mastered and are great in the current meta is still being picked? Whattttttt, so I guess the only solution for you would be that we should have something like Renata Top, Yuumi JG, bring back Ali or Naut Mid, have Braum ADC, and Garen Support so you know, it wouldn't "SUCK" like you say it would.

[@peterosborne8315]

@kelvinhono-ranio9065 i never said i didnt like fearless. I prefer it to the normal tournament setup. Its just it runs into the same issues after a certain number of games

[@VinJ17]

@@peterosborne8315 bruh, do you know what META is? Not that facebook shit, but the META that literally can dictate which champions are really really good and what champions are really really bad. Bro

[@mixit4895]

Yo did we just skip the Noway 3vs1 on mid in game 3? Scam

[@RB-xc9wg]

how is noways 1v3 not in the highlights?

[@Vladivoz]

biased

[@thdjskxkxdjwi13]

Spoiler: Feels bad kesha probably thinks its his fault they lost but he really played quite well. Especially in this final he was against the best nonpro jg in the west while getting yelled at by his team all game he still kept his composure and played pretty well. Ggs

[@johnkirk1772]

uhm nah he didn't play well lets be honest.. most of the one-trick junglers got exposed by the format - they play their main well but they lack game understanding and can't play any other champs - nemesis was walking him to where he needed to be like a dog on a leash and he still couldn't play

[@moritzspooren1731]

All 1 Trick players got exposed wdym

[@mariokrok-adamski842]

yeah, not really, that what the issue with otp is, great mechanics of 1 champ, not much of a macro

[@jedanim9536]

​@@johnkirk1772dzukill wasn't exposed though was he

[@yessir4878]

@@jedanim9536 not a one-trick..

[@PwnGU1N]

You didnt show the Cassio tripple solo. :(

[@serbiancaps8374]

Yeah i waited for it too and then it just got skipped XD

[@SWRVShadow]

I know I cannot be the only one that wants to see Neme go pro again

[@r3fus32d13]

why would he give up a relaxing streaming career to gamble on 4 other teamates and an organisation that might not even make him top 3 in LEC? HE is very happy where he's at now

[@eriksavage2746]

@@r3fus32d13 not really that serious it would just be fun to see him go pro again

[@jacopopuccetti9340]

He prolly play next year

[@r3fus32d13]

@@eriksavage2746 I wasn't being serious, I was just stating how these players think about their own reputation. It's a LOT of hard work to even participate in pro games, so much stress and investment. It wouldn't be fun to see him get rekt by pro players

[@bunbun6369]

Neme go pro again would be dope + Agurin, he deserve to get a chance to compete vs the top of the top he is recently very very outstanding tbh, what nemesis is doing fo rhis team is what agurin does for the germans ngl

[@SimonOerslund]

"KESHA!" really gives off the "KARSA!"-vibes we've been missing

[@owenpfaff627]

Rough tournament for Kesha, had to play a lot of champs he wasn’t familiar with against some of the best players in the World. Hope he doesn’t take the loss to hard.

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

"some of the best players in the world" that's a stretch dude

[@nathanfievet5546]

@@itsgonnabeokay9341 well it's not that stretchy. Couple of pro players, high elo streamer n stuff.

[@alexnguyen6159]

Against some of the best players?? XD we germans call them „the german senior citizen“ or kinda like the german retire team hahahaha

[@3zzChineseSchizo]

@@alexnguyen6159 but we dont ? XD maybe noway but agurin?

[@pullimau8555]

@@itsgonnabeokay9341 tbh not a stretch, they are like 0.1% players in that elo th, ofcourse koreans and chinese players are better

[@felixschimmel9688]

Where is the solo 1 vs 3 from Noway with Cassio

[@lemartn8921]

Why is there only highlights of Nemesis team?

[@leeccilee7605]

Because caedrel is biased

[@NamoPhoenix]

Because NNO speaks german so Noone understands

[@leeccilee7605]

@@NamoPhoenix you dont have to speak german to look at plays, he just could've included the plays from the nemesis stream if he wanted to but he didnt

[@rakshithegde4012]

@@leeccilee7605 team voice comms and strategies are more exciting than just looking at a screen as a deaf person ( coz many dont speak German )

[@leeccilee7605]

@@rakshithegde4012 yeah i understand that but what im talking about is that he doesn't had to include that specific clip from the german perspective and instead from the main stream or someone else's stream you know

[@jeffyboyreloaded]

dzukill's ability to dodge spells on yone with his E is so maniacal

[@davidsato7898]

Dzukill and Neme cosplaying Rookie and TheShy 2018 the whole tournament.

[@toastermicrowave]

this format feels like individual champ pools are more important than mind numbing boring pro meta same champs every game. Asides from the in game coaching I liked this format.

[@leeccilee7605]

Sad to see that the editor cut out the 1v3, i dont care if you are biased but putting in moments like that should be mandatory

[@tompohlmann7073]

Facts, sick play from Noway

[@blackwomangamer2637]

Not really a 1v3

[@human1479]

agree

[@DoffyDogg]

welcome to social media.

[@JoeMama-ik7qf]

more like a 1 vs 2 outplay into killing enemy jgl minion@@blackwomangamer2637

[@MrTomsongazelle]

Why didnt you show noways 1v3 triple kill as cassio? That play was sick

[@Quatschgold]

I was also wondering about that one...editing seemed super focussed only on the Nemesis team.

[@JoeMama-ik7qf]

haha thought the same everyone is just horny for nemesis, lil bro lost to washed erl team but hey he shotcalled kesha so hes def top lec pro material@@Quatschgold

[@AeDoEOEoE]

One shouldnt forget that nno actually got. Into the 1. div Prime league with this Roaster - so ggwp but Not an unexpected outcome tbh

[@muffinshooter4722]

everybody talks about nemesis but no one saw Noway 1vs 3 mid lane and completely outplayed nemesis?

[@firefy9595]

don't get me wrong I'm German, I love Noway and NNO but the way nemesis carried his team for the whole tournament so that's why I think everyone praises him so much. It's like Faker with t1 and how just his presence seemed to somehow revive t1.

[@jchamp1624]

noone could have seen it because it wasnt in the vod here :D

[@ph8808]

I mean it was a good play don’t get me wrong but it was more because of their misplay than him outplaying them

[@affenaxt3647]

@@ph8808 Thats the entire point of league. You act on enemies mistakes. Every time you kill someone you can say that your enemy could have prevented his death by doing something different and therefor made a mistake.

[@pullimau8555]

@@ph8808 nah he dismantled nemesis wit hthe spacing

[@DJ_SB_JKPG]

I've never really seen an organised play macro 1v9 with voicecomms like the first game before, really makes you realise how big the difference is between a player who took an LPL 1st seed to 5 games and challenger players, but also really surprised by how quick and mechanically well Dzukill followed up on Nemes calls on Panth

[@return3d825]

The difference in skill between Dzukill, Nemesis and the rest was pretty cool to watch. Nemesis is definitely better in teamfights and macro though, you can really see how good a pro player actually is compared to challengers. Hope we get more of these tournaments!

[@MassGainerNA]

Dzukill needs to go pro... his yone is god tier, but he plays everything well

[@Keckegenkai]

Not even the 1v3 from Noway?

[@lukaspieper633]

What the fuck is the Editor on not to put the by far best play of the series (Noways 1v3 triple kill) into the video?!

[@TWunderkind]

"Whoever drafted for NNO - good job" - yeah it was Google Diff nice bias btw - like how do we not talk at all about the biggest streamer team in the german speaking region/ignoring their plays?

[@NDREI3000]

Grabbz didn't coach them for this tourney lol, they did all the drafts themselves

[@harihari-ou9in]

noway had more viewers than drututt 💀

[@TWunderkind]

@@NDREI3000 yeah you're right - sorry my bad

[@RadioRockboat]

Why did he not cut in the insane 1 v 3 outplay from noway?😢

[@balooks4588]

how can u skip cassio triple

[@d0pe2k7]

Yeah really biased. Makes me sad. I am not a fanboy but reacting more neutral to this would be even more fun to watch. You even cutted off the cassio 1vs3 play :/ what really is a must see!

[@slash5891]

nemesis and dzukill were trying their damn hardest to win while netherINT was just running it down

[@yan_lia]

I mean support role already is heavily elo inflated, its even harder for support one/two-tricks. That said, he played better than I wouldve expected

[@Solr084]

most supports werent that crazy in this tournament though

[@izshtar]

i mean He's their weakest link besides Kesha, and i'm pretty sure he's an otp too i think.

[@psalmyyvan]

@@Solr084 i think mystiques gapped all the supports in this tourna

[@lukaswalker2342]

​@@yan_liaSupport is not elo inflated. And the supports in the tournament had the lowest Elos

[@sphaere]

Calls the video "NEMESIS VS NOWAY4U" and then cuts out every part regarding Noway and his team, like the Cassio 1vs3 play and shit. Cool shit.

[@Vladivoz]

just insane bias

[@rojalD]

I don't know who said it but the "why do you even open your mouth!" Is so toxic. I wouldn't want to keep play with with that person... thats so disrespectful

[@tommytommy7535]

timestamp?

[@rojalD]

@@tommytommy7535 20:57 In draft, he recommends a pick

[@tapewoerm]

@@rojalDit’s dealerz and ye cringe

[@k3yeppers]

You really cut out the 1v3 cassio play?

[@Tijmen90C]

honestly a bit surprised Caedrel so clearly favors Nemesis' team in this match-up! I don't know the reasoning behind it. Are they the underdogs vs... NNO....? Let me just be a rat and say "BIASED"

[@tobias9790]

I guess they are the underdogs since NNO has been playing semi pro with this roster last year, they even qualified for Strauß Prime league first division with that roster, they didn't really play together this year tho

[@queensforever7498]

This tourney separated the otp's from the actual good players. Nem dzu tried so hard 😢

[@schrodinger6991]

Dzu is otp

[@olivergonzalez9849]

​@@schrodinger6991dzu still played well or at least held himself in offchamps, cant say the same about most

[@oreoyo5639]

@@schrodinger6991He clearly isn’t like other one tricks that are trash off their main. He was winning lane and playing well on many champ.

[@eli_ensk7226]

wtf how can u cut out the Cassio 1v3

[@Mr4CS]

dayum that anti spoiler plant caught me off guard, i thought we were going to game 5. goated plant

[@slaire6892]

One thing caedrel learned this tournament, is that both yone and yasuo are mathematically correct and a mathematician like dzukill is good at using those champs

[@Darkyryus_]

This Finals just showed how goated dzukill is and how nemesis growed as a player also this tournament showed how otp works you play better when you just play 1 champ knows its limits better than anyone (obviously otps of the same champ can be argued) and can "autopilot" that side of the game and focus on other things *BUT* when you play others champs that advantage is lost and otps are "worse" than other people that play 3-4-X different champs! SO FUCKING GOOD DUS WE NEED MOAR OF THIS AND EXPLAIN THESE THINGS! Edit: Kesha did what he could he unironically played better than expected from many people!

[@Donadzea]

Imagine playing against Agurin as Kesha.

[@Paul-mu8ik]

1:50 actually series deciding

[@slov1ker583]

can someone fill me up on LS and nemesis? Didnt they have like beef and stopped talking?

[@pimpaster69420]

i can fill you up but not on ls and nemesis... ;)

[@rippenb161]

I dont think i ever heard of this? LS has always had high praise of nemesis from what i remember. Never heard anything negative between them

[@Deymetrey]

its abt the moving to korea thing

[@Sangsal01]

They had beef in Korea, and they had some problems about when LS went to coach. AT THE TIME they were on bad terms. I believe they are neutral with each other. LS still praises Nemesis for being a great Mid Laner and Nemesis doesn’t have anything bad to say about LS. People just grow apart

[@prod.robinovski109]

LS could fill you up for sure

[@allainangcao28]

I shed a tear seeing LS and Nemesis back together. 😢

[@redwoolfred2]

Anti spoiler plant saved the day, honestly though it was going to game 5. W editor

[@josepinto1561]

Appreciated the plant

[@EllieMidna]

But Mr. Caedrel man, I have clicked the sub button already....what more can I do

[@swordlessfish2203]

I have the same problem with zooming in while performing certain actions. It doesn't happen with any of the cheap mice I used to use, but a lot of the gaming mice I've used have pretty sensitive scroll wheels, so when I'm kiting my middle finger just barely moves the scroll wheel sometimes.

[@piordas9728]

Same Hits different

[@5minutesoflol35]

It is weird to see Kesha so calm, he is like totally different person. Maybe old Kesha was eaten by new calm Kesha....

[@Cyrus_1991]

Shame you dont even show the best play of the series... So biased.

[@orkokillstrike8251]

There’s no way I was about to suggest you to put a photo of your plant for anti spoiler

[@TheEpicClanFTW]

Nah man I usually really enjoy your vid's but this just feels so bs, if you are biased towards nemesis thats fine, but the video should still include all highlights and not cut out nno for the most part. sad to see

[@firespark804]

I like the game 5 anti-spoiler :D🙌

[@mqritz9]

Who drafted for nno xD nobody they just smashed it

[@lucameister1468]

im just sad how biased this reactions are to even cut out the 1 vs 3 From Noway sad to see

[@KaylerFaye26_]

Was it LS I'm hearing?

[@lukastandla7569]

I have never heard kesha so silent in a game :)

[@metallfinn]

Okay Dzukills Panth is DIRTY

[@simonthornblad6451]

Anti spoiler plant is gods grace to us mere humans

[@destroyercoc6833]

I've subscirbied u since the begining

[@lukewilmington9807]

Anti spoiler plant coming in clutch yet again

[@mephistopheles858]

Kesha just getting micromanaged bro 😂😂😂

[@Velereonics]

Zed is permabannable I swear to god.

[@YATZIwastaken]

keshas face when they said no to malph

[@cosmicshark5626]

THE FUCKING ANTI SPOILER PLANT

[@jasonh9383]

32:54

[@SilencedButNotForgotten]

Not including Noway's outplay is criminal...

[@marskavols1073]

lol that is such a good plant ty

[@reinhartdrial8060]

Anyone else INSTANTLY turn down the volume at frame 1 ?

[@ateidmon9835]

thats rank 1 korea for you. he knows how to abuse junglers that are weaker than him

[@crashed3927]

People say he is farming all the time but the truth is that his efficiency is so high, that in order for his opponent to match him he needs similar efficiency (lile canyon) or be able to create so much preassure and opportunities on the map that he can generate more gold value (like bo or some high korean junglers). If you're not able to do either and he doesn't get inted he will just run away with the game.

[@vedantgupta2145]

o mean it was nemesis dzukill vs agurin and his adc

[@human1479]

NNO ADC probably the worst on NNO tho.

[@vedantgupta2145]

these 4 were the best performing players tho@@human1479

[@lukaswalker2342]

​@@human1479no! His supp is way worse the ADC is ok sometimes surprisingly strong sometimes dreaming

[@tobias9790]

​@@lukaswalker2342yeah hes kinda coinflip, sometimes int, sometimes insane

[@christaylor1357]

legendary anti spoiler plant!

[@kourokenshi664]

10:17 ???????????????????????

[@ojy1496]

Nemesis is a level above any of these guys. He is unbelievably good at the game and could easily slot back into the LEC with the right mindset and motivation

[@lemartn8921]

If he is not the best in the game he would be a fraud since the others have not been in LEC just minor or no league.

[@Irishboy-cj4zn]

Nemesis, Agurin and Dzukill all seem in the tier of "Would be interesting to see in pro play"

[@danielnizberg1754]

he could, he doesn't want to

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

Not Dzukill. Dude is a onetrick. @@Irishboy-cj4zn

[@MassGainerNA]

watching Dzukill, he could literally play any top laner, I thought he was only a yone 1 trick, guy is sauced on everything

[@PSCinemao]

ICH BIN EIN BERLINER

[@andresfeliperodriguezriano4032]

If I can't hear Caedrel's comments is not that fun. As beautiful as Nemesis voice can be it's not that fun =(

[@TeodoraIurian]

what about asia games?

[@billybob4159]

He can’t

[@madlifeelements4254]

caedrel and ls cant liveview asia games due to dmca stuff

[@pullimau8555]

tolkin can tho@@billybob4159

[@Andrew-cn7zy]

kesha flipping barons like na!

[@Zappo-o8l]

I love anti spoiler plant.

[@izushi3615]

KESHAAAAA!!!!

[@koreanata6951]

How can a team of two - Neme and Dzu win vs a team of 8? Especially with a bronze jg, supp? How?

[@CooOOookiez]

wait i thought hullbreaker leblanc was a meme

[@elitacoelho5672]

who is this EU XQC?

[@___dave4820]

bro cut out the 1v3 from noway4u

[@loganburntitus6948]

LOL THE PLANT MEME CONTINUES. no caps whoops

[@kavishU0902]

idk how after a first game win LS tells Dzukill not to pick yas or yone for 2 games.

[@kavishU0902]

@@smokelingers9857 isn't the draft just champs can't be picked more than once in a series. Dzukill could have picked yone in game 2 cause it wasn't picked before.

[@-pront2457]

i think thy didnt pick because of malphite braum

[@midnightbelle4037]

LS is useless

[@schrodinger6991]

Kind of unfair the germans have been a team for a long time and even qulified for prime league 2nd or 3rd best league in europe. I wqs rooting for agurin the entire time though.

[@jacklightn]

Where the spoiler? Come on chat slacking

[@voltiolord57123]

Like for the plant

[@nabeelkhan6990]

SPOLIER PLANT FOR THE WIN

[@letlant]

Top gap was insane, everyone got gapped tbh

[@cedar7757]

im hella fast boiiiiiii

[@sdffdsf0]

start steaming on KZbin

[@bluecoke6828]

NNO all the way

[@aaronbautista3396]

Better than lec finals tbh..

[@HiepNguyen-pg5lg]

T1 lost the final 1 more time, this is the aura guys, T1 cant win the final

[@genautelevishn5999]

dzukill is so good

[@marvindepner7830]

All nemesis fanboys cryin rn hahahahah

[@mglinkowski]

Puh-LANT!

[@elijahfacch]

am i the only one who feels like the format should've had another final? Why does Neme's team not get the option to lose a game and come back like Noway's did? idk maybe i'm crazy

[@xmorose]

Every single format works this way. The LEC, LCK LPL LCS all work like that. Double elim brackets go to solo elim in finals.

[@miguelinfante9745]

Them going directly to finals helps them be more rested and focused. The german team because they lost, had to play basically a possible 10 games in a row to win the finals, while LIP only 5 in the finals

[@TilmanVogler]

Idk. It is not like they had no extra Life. They just didn't need it. NNO Played more games in return so it's fine I think.

[@pullimau8555]

league is too long for bracket reset

[@SCJ_2001]

@@TilmanVogler they played 1 extra game that's it lol

[@buny6393]

Pace