CAESAR 155mm 8x8 wheeled self propelled howitzer Nexter Systems France French defense industry

The Caesar 8x8 is an upgraded version of the 6x6 Caesar wheeled self-propelled howitzer using 155/52 caliber cannon. This artillery is designed and manufactured by the French Defense Company Nexter Systems. This version of the Caesar was unveiled during the defense exhibition in London, DSEI in September 2015. The Caesar 8x8 presented at DSEI was based on the Tatra T-815 8x8 chassis.
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[@markofthejt1995]

I'd love one of these as a basically a car show toy, just roll up to Sema with a fully functional tatra 8x8 with a howitzer and enjoy all the people staring 😂

[@beechcraftkingair3799]

markofthejt motj it’s more expensive than most hypercars!!

[@markofthejt1995]

@@beechcraftkingair3799 I'm a fan of offroad vehicles more so that hypercars, so if I had the money.... I'd have one lmao

[@anonymoushunter9808]

markofthejt motj pumped up kicks intensifies

[@Darth_Urruz]

In fact, Tatra (which provided chassis for this thing) has a tradition in SPG's. Chceck "SpGH DANA" it's on the same chassis as CAESAR and it has excellent offroad abilities. The SpGH DANA has also an auto-loader which can work in any gun angle, most of SPG's need to have gun in certain angle for auto-loader to work.

[@solarissv777]

with fully automated round handling, they could do a 175mm version. The reasoning behind 175mm is following: modern rounds need guidance units, on per round (at least $20k each) and in 175mm there would be much more bang for the buck (literally). Also the range, old 175mm M107 had range of up to 40km, and modern 155mm M109 has ~20km (no rocket assist). If making rocket assisted 175mm rounds, the addition of onboard propellant, will still remain a reasonable space for explosive itself (unlike 155mm). The lack of full crew enclosure make them open to counter battery fire, so the gun MUST outrange almost anything that can fire back. However this is also an opportunity: theoretically, the ammo handling mechanism can be readjusted to 175mm rounds, while the enclosed turret, allowing handling of such huge rounds would be too big to be practical. So by making a 175mm version of caesar they could drastically increase lethality and firing range, and thus increase safety of the crew. The possible disadvantages would be: lower ammo capacity and weight increase.

[@lordtemplar9274]

Czech republic recently ordered 52 Caesar to replace their old Dana

[@jetaddicted]

A bank vault. On wheels. With a big cannon on top. I’d put my savings in that.

[@bibitralala4960]

Ave Caesar ;)

[@blank.9301]

Australia 🇦🇺 and NZ need that. 👍

[@craigtate5930]

Talk about a bad ass looking truck...even with out the huge gun

[@mrg4847]

Wow. I need one in my backyard.

[@nathanpatrick7094]

I like that design but removed the howitz and build as motorhome look bad ass

[@2009walah]

agree

[@marek35]

you dont need to remove anything. Plain military Tatra 8x8 would be much cheaper

[@arnaudlacoste2688]

The Beast. 🇨🇵👍

[@jessegriffin8775]

Pretty damn spectacular.

[@matthewsonnen]

That thing looks crazy aggressive. Wish we had one of these🇺🇸

[@phairecouchpotato3912]

Someone Please add this to Arma 3

[@Blackwolffe097]

I would pull the canon back a bit so it lays completely flat enabling a gun mount above the cab

[@remistiegler5302]

They can't have a vehicle too long, as it must go inside an Airbus A400 M or a C170

[@sontungle2641]

This have protected level 3 STANAG 4569 against 7.62x51mm, and Level 2 against 6kg AT mine.

[@Kyotica]

13 bravos going crazy right now

[@guypatts494]

That thing is bad ass

[@ArmandDupin]

Mauvais cul, in its original language.

[@goldeneagle3088]

Shoots 155mm baguettes

[@empereur_du_congoeddy-malo2286]

The new CEASAR version look good

[@andreamartins7375]

fantástico este sistema

[@thelegendofdf287]

Me- hmm where can I find a review of a 155mm self propelled howitzer... Defense Web TV - I gotchu

[@aldendiaz1165]

India should think of buying Caesar, as it's very suitable in Indian roads and rocky terrains plus the deployment of Caesar is much faster than self-propelled artilleries from SK.

[@vardgeshakobyan6111]

interesting how much is this beuty???

[@ConstantineJoseph]

Back in the day artillery were cheap and fielded in mass quantities. Today it is a money pit of really high maintenance equipment and components delivering the same caliber.

[@Weakeyedominant]

There is definitely a balance to be had. When you compare Russian artilary strength to European it really is laughable.

[@castor2000]

If the fire rate is better you can afford to have less for the same quantity of shells

[@Weakeyedominant]

@@castor2000 good point. Realistically this isn't really a big issue for the UK. It's more of a requirement for Poland, Germany and Eastern European armies. The UK would be better focusing on easily deployable land assets and long range precision strike missiles.

[@OleDiaBole]

TATRA... i wondered why is so prety and badass.

[@kristianchristensen2254]

Cause its Czech made!!!

[@philv3941]

@@kristianchristensen2254 Czech are top notch in chassis, in 8x8 we drop our french ones for Czech's one, the architecture is tough and very clever.

[@g2macs]

Ever since the 'shoot and scoot' theory became doctrine, everybody and his dog is making these beasts. Although the South African Rhino is the best looking this one comes a close second.

[@DanielSan1776]

“The more you sweat, the less you bleed”

[@tagheuerwoods6241]

21st century Flak 88, yay for France

[@loonloon6860]

Looks like just gonna need 2 or 3 man only , one driver , one point location and one repair.

[@serruredelespace]

155 mmm baguette artillery

[@VVF-05]

Jaja you are so funny.( Not really)

[@mejestic124]

It Looks family friendly.😋

[@4lderion]

But in the war, it will be friendly fire

[@mikidelic4303]

Not so friendly if you're a enemy 😉

[@fagaming532]

Nice video

[@fagaming532]

I love all videos keep going

[@DefenseWebTV]

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[@kirscheim]

beautiful

[@redwiigs8328]

VIVE LA FRANCE ON EST LES MEILLEUR SOUS TOUS LES ANGLES

[@BFVK]

Mais arretes de dires des bêtises... ce genre d'intervention nous fait passer pour des abrutis...

[@anegoggle4291]

Great!

[@harikesh4]

What kind of studies do I need to be a designer of these beast.

[@austinbartose6527]

Just take a crayon to some construction paper and you’re hired

[@frankordonez2826]

You guys have made a Napoleon tank

[@elbb6623]

Morocco bought this

[@virkjatt2036]

very good

[@guypatts494]

Pure power

[@guypatts494]

I like the auto loader does it have hydraulic recoil

[@ng9706]

Paladin can definitely go home

[@fcalvaresi]

JPYen the Paladin is completely obsolete, I think the US has a major program to replace it

[@nyph933]

To be honest, this truck wouldn't do alot, they went too much on making it look "pretty". It's a worse version of the Swedish Archer, and a Paladin could probably score more kills than this.

[@fcalvaresi]

Nyph it has proven exactly the opposite in Iraq against ISIS. In fact it impressed enough the US to convince them to start a replacement program to the Paladin. Currently I do not see any better wheeled artillery than the CAESAR in the West.

[@nyph933]

@@fcalvaresi You have to realise that ISIS are just terrorists, not a world power. The CAESAR 8x8 against modern technology would take nothing. While the 8x8 is more mobile, the Paladin has more armor. And yes, the US is going to make a new self propelled artillery vehicle, the Paladin is old as fuck now.

[@VeeranLegacy]

@@nyph933 both CAESAR have anti-tank rounds that would chew through the Paladin, there is a reason why France didn't bother replacing the AuF1 with another armored artillery platform: it's wasted armor, now mobile artillery is all about mobility, I mean most tanks have to rely on active defense systems because of how advanced munitions are becoming, so why waste steel on an artillery platform when its going to be 40 Kliks behind your line, probably covered by infantry equipped with anti-tank and anti-air launchers. And compared to the Archer the CAESAR is more easily deployable, more mobile and has an actual combat history to speak of.

[@sontungle2641]

Vietnamese 🇻🇳 People Army need the Caesar 8x8 to strengthen the artillery support power.

[@alex5f286]

Son Tung Le no sorry caesar it's french and will never export sorry

[@Rehunauris]

spacefire It's already in service with many diffrent armies around the world, dude.

[@alex5f286]

Juuso Peltoniemi no bro just in France dont Speek you dont say

[@anders9808]

Its alerady in use with France, Saudi Arabia, Indonisia, Lebanon and Thailand. And Denmark have also bought some.

[@silverpleb2128]

Spacefire, je sais pas si t'es con ou si t'es con, peut-etre bien un mélange des deux. Mais parce que le matos est Francais ont ne doit pas l'exporter? Mais quel abrutis... Tiens, si tu veux savoir, le Danemark en a commander, et il me semble que la malaisie ou un pays pas très loin en a commander aussi...

[@defencebangladesh4068]

Nice .... We got Nora though

[@Louiswernerhansen]

questions 1: At 2:30 he says "the process for the shelves are fully automatic, there are no human intervention during the fire mission" but in the few videos of it firing, there is a guy bringing the ammo from the racks to the automatic loading arm... how come? 2: does it have the capability to fire multiple rounds with simultaneous impact? 3: why on earth is the wheels tilted inward? Like this \ /

[@themax9913]

There might be a auto-reload and a manual reload option

[@philv3941]

1/ the vid you have seen is the old one in 6x6. This one is the 8x8 fully automatic Perhaps you can buy it in semi-automatic

[@XyzzTooCold]

Yeah

[@XyzzTooCold]

Yeah

[@XyzzTooCold]

Yeah

[@tyshiddejuremanbey1313]

War is hell, we must turn back!!!

[@cuddlepaws4423]

Nice advert .

[@nickhahn5412]

The paladin is definitely due for replacement with things like this coming out... Hopefully the US will have something similar built on the Oshkosh 8x8 platform that is tried and true

[@bubbythecuck978]

Spotted one clueless jackass spouting off about things he can't understand.

[@Warptenlololol]

@@bubbythecuck978 Context is key, and the Paladin contextual use is getting power creeped by today armament and technology. I like a bad ass 175 in a tank chassis as much as the next guy, but unless you need that 175 firing ABS it's going to be hard to make a point that the Paladin is still relevant.

[@Lorkhaj89]

Nice baguette launcher

[@SERGIO-cr6uy]

nice truck, just remove the cannon and transform it to an expedition vehicle.

[@michaelanderson1859]

sergio pereira keep the cannon. You might need it for T-Rex

[@ingemar_von_zweigbergk]

Practical

[@Narr1]

Good for rush hour. You can bomb all the way free before starting.

[@countdebleauchamp]

John Oliver ladies and gentlemen, John Oliver.

[@marbarakobama6278]

Hope DND consider this type of howitzer.

[@pimpdaddy9634]

Automatic loader is nice but limited shell selection

[@VeeranLegacy]

Since when ? the Leclerc has used an auto-loader since it was launched and has always been capable of selecting its ammo it just can switch loaded shells so I'm pretty sure the CAESAR's auto-loader is capable of the same thing but it probably has its own system to do so.

[@hengvuth9839]

ល្អមើល

[@FHasan-od8fb]

why not made from articulated machines may be more suitable for transportation in muddy terrain & forests

[@idodaisuke4285]

cuz the cannon doesn't bend....

[@einar8019]

@@idodaisuke4285 the archer uses a articulated volvo and it has no problems

[@idodaisuke4285]

@@einar8019 no problem the archer? sold to 36 units only and norway cancelled it's order due to lack of mobility... on a purely technical point of view, the archer is 14m long, whereas the caesar is 10m long. U don't need articulation on a 10m truck. (also the archer is twice as heavy as the caesar for the same cannon caliber)

[@einar8019]

@@idodaisuke4285 the 8x8 and the archer wheigt the same. the archer hold 3 more rounds. has a mg(m2 browning). the ammo storage on the archer is armoured unlike the caesar. if you need to repair it you can go down to your volvo dealer and get a new engine. they sold 48* units and norway canceld their order beacause BAE whent bankrut and could not get the ammo systems for the units causing a 2 year delay. it has a crew of 3 instead of the ceasars 5.

[@mrmike1183]

Where did they get the headlights? Autozone?

[@paulroos7946]

This is just a prettier version of our G5 tank

[@potatofight9890]

The guy talks like a robot

[@noitmrj4502]

Les français font de beaux camion/ canon mais on parle anglais comme des buses 😂

[@lecterfan3411]

Lol. A poor man's Archer!

[@VeeranLegacy]

The CAESAR 6x6 can carry 18 rounds, the NG (8x8 model) carries 30, both have a range of approximatively 40 Kliks with ERFB shells and more than 50 Kliks rocket-assisted ones. It is airlift capable on both C-130 Hercules and A400M Atlas, it has a road speed of 100Km/h and an off-road speed of 50Km/h. While it lacked armor, the NG model while providing more than sufficient upgrades considering we are talking about a mobile artillery platform. On the actual gun, the CAESAR has less elevation 0° to 70° and traverse 30° with a fire rate of 6 rounds per minute (fire rate of the NG is supposed to be higher) The Archer can carry 21 rounds, has a range of 35 Kliks using NATO Bofors/Nexter shells and 60 Kliks using the Bofors Excalibur rounds. It is airlift capable on A400M Atlas only, has a road speed of 70 Km/h. It does have better armor protection. Archer has an elevation of -1° to 85° and a traverse of 360°(?) with a fire rate of 8 to 9 rounds per minute. So, the main difference is in the gun capabilities, which impact an important point of the French Army: mobility. The CAESAR is more mobile, faster and combat-proven while the Archer while undeniably powerful isn't even deployable by air since Sweden has not bought any A400M. The CAESAR also wins in exports with 5 nations operating the 6x6 and Danmark having bought 15 8x8 while Sweden was not capable of completing Norway's order of 24 howitzers in time, making the Swedish Army the only operator of the Archer (meaning we actually have little to no idea how the platform would operate in temperate/hot environment). In the end, the CAESAR has more than enough combat history to prove it is sufficiently powerful to do its job and the fact that France didn't plan on actually using the model ends up with planned numbers of 77 6x6 and 32 8x8 should be indication enough of its capabilities.

[@the_hate_inside1085]

@@VeeranLegacy Yeah because testing a weapon platform in temperate environment often makes it malfunction? I´d be more worried how the CAESAR performs when it drops below freezing, I´m pretty sure the Swedes has that covered. So you write first about the Archer: "It is airlift capable on A400M Atlas" Then you write: "the Archer while undeniably powerful isn't even deployable by air since Sweden has not bought any A400M." What is your point? You have to actually buy an airplane to air-deploy the Archer artillery? While the CAESAR can fly away on its own two wings?

[@VeeranLegacy]

@@the_hate_inside1085 Don't be silly, trucks can't fly but I do believe it's easier to deploy a platform when you own the only aircraft capable of transporting it. Of course, it's not an obligation but it sure is a lot easier and most probably a lot quicker too. For the temperate part, my bad, I should have said only hot, temperate being the middle ground everyone tolerates. My only point was: no, the CAESAR isn't a "poor man's Archer" which seemed like a stupid assumption considering the combat history of the CAESAR that's all.

[@tobbzor]

@@VeeranLegacy You forgot to include that the archer is crewed by 2 and the ceaser is crewed by atleast 3. And in the archer the crew is protected inside when operating the gun and in the Ceaser they are not.

[@Mr-Patate87]

@@tobbzor no need to be protected when you are 50km away from the battlefield.

[@t00ls742]

how about all countries quit making these things for war lets go back to men fighting men and see how many wars there are

[@ozy8742]

chris owens ur profile picture is a solar panel, how about you make your own energy with a human sized hamster wheel ?

[@t00ls742]

@@ozy8742 I am a retired veteran of the US army whats your point...oh you dont have one

[@t00ls742]

@@ozy8742 just like you dont have any content....

[@ozy8742]

chris owens my point is you can’t stop technology, these weapons are made for destruction and to scare the enemy, you want man vs man fight? Go on the battlefield in firefights. Why do you think soldiers are trained to melee fight ? And I don’t see why me not having content is a problem...

[@ozy8742]

chris owens oh and «I am a retired veteran of the us army» is not a point.

[@kaisernavyfield6020]

how much

[@horsthasenfratz2782]

Its good that this vehicle has rearview mirrors. So the French can everytime see the frontline.

[@chemcom276]

Horst Hasenfratz , Horst , german probably, did you forget you lost you two last wars and that now your army is a pussy one? Only 12 tornados can fly...

[@leneanderthalien]

@@chemcom276 yep, and the Eurofighter typhoon is a poor dogfighter...

[@spreddyreds9408]

Is there a design like a pistol clip where the rounds are loaded and automatically reload the rounds while the old one gets ejected?

[@crucisatorulblitz4762]

rate of fire?

[@ohpatriote5622]

Crucisatorul Blitz 10 to12 per minutes

[@emilmuhrman]

6-8

[@TheIbanezs5470]

But, still, even improved, can't withstand compared to a PZH 2000 in off road capabilities, mobility, rounds per minute, projectiles capacity. Also a PZH 2000 can pass 3 meters trenches, 1 meter vertical obstacles, more than 1.2m fording depth, the crew is well protected inside from any weather condition or firearms, the projectiles compartment is well protected from mines, bombs, etc and is located in the middle and in low position, so means better balance, the canon is in middle position too, means better balance too. No any wheeled howitzer can have any of these capabilities, not even close to PZH 2000 or other tracked howitzers. In a real battle scenario if you compare a Caesar with a Pzh 2000, you can see how better a Pzh 2000 is in any situation, muddy conditions, slippery wet surfaces, high angles, rocks, sand. No comparison. Caesar needs 1 min preparation and 1 min to move, also 1 round per 10 secs. Pzh 2000 can fire 3 rounds in 10 secs and the whole preparation, firing and moving takes 2 mins, means way less time and more effective at the same time. Also Pzh 2000, 60 projectiles capacity. Caesar 8x8, 30 projectiles. Caesar traverse 30 degrees left/right. Pzh 2000 traverse, 360 degrees.

[@Warump]

Caesar is muuuuch cheaper to maintain and to buy. Your points are good, but you are forgetting the economical and logistical part of army. This vehicle doesnt need much armor, because its simply not in front lines.

[@TheIbanezs5470]

@@Warump yes you have right about that, but in critical situations, Caesar can't operate same as a pzh 2000, and in those conditions doesn't really matter the price, but your life. In a war you never know when the enemies are around you, so you always need good protection from your vehicle.

[@ptranchand52]

@@TheIbanezs5470 the concept between this 2 vehicules is simply different, France also have AUF1 (obsolete) but who have the same role than the pzh 2000, cesar is used for low maintain and low comsuption in battlefield, speed, precision and range (≈50km) in second or third line, the pzh 2000 is going to be much close to first line and for a defense purpose, also the doctrine between france and germany are very different, France wants fast vehicule for his doctrine, Germany has a defensive doctrine, you can see this difference also on the leclerc and the leopard 2

[@dmitrijkuznetsov8053]

16*16 bitte. Mit Persching mod.8 ;) danke. Targets: London, Edinburgh. Start Punkt: ibitza. ;+)

[@the_hate_inside1085]

You call that a gun? Now this is a gun: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2fGgnd_a9uraM0

[@HavardCastiglioni]

My gosh why couldn't we get it for the us military

[@kloschuessel773]

phillip hall french tech: semi automatic baguette slingshot with extra fast retreat capabilities.

[@tagheuerwoods6241]

@@kloschuessel773 That 155 MM Howitzer would like to have a word with you about that

[@kloschuessel773]

Tagheuer Woods caesar is a ridiculous name for a french weapon system. Next tank will be called guderian and next plane red baron?

[@philv3941]

@phillip hall we french retreated against nazis. USA retreated against vietnamese farmers.

[@ph11p3540]

I wonder how many reverse gears the truck transmission has?

[@omkr0122]

When this artillery is hit (Breaths) SHIZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[@pewyx]

Thats one nice Baguette

[@TexH426]

I mean cool but it looks pretty pathetic compared to the behemoth that is the PzH 2000. This french thing is way too fragile

[@minester625]

eto ang bagay sa pinas.

[@G_de_Coligny]

Bon courage pour tranporter ca dans un transall ou C130

[@Fredator-21]

transall un peu dépasser et c130 on en a pas le seul restant c'est l'A400M a voir s'il passe mais je pense que oui

[@Fredator-21]

@@G_de_Coligny bof de toute façon c'est pas à nous de nous poser cette question et de voir si oui ou non ca passe

[@G_de_Coligny]

Maxime Ramboz je pense pas pouvoir me rappeler toutes les fois ou j’ai entendus ce genre de phrase dite par le mec qui etait charge de la verification...

[@Fredator-21]

@@G_de_Coligny ^^ Ben vla la bonne image de l'inspecteur des travaux finis

[@G_de_Coligny]

@@Fredator-21 les joies de la sociopathie d'entreprise: avant: t'inquietes ca vas aller apres: pas dur de critiquer apres coup et c'est la que tu file ta dem et reviens en consultant exterieur, parce que faire et defaire c'est toujours des honoraires...

[@Capellix0001]

The Archer looks better

[@olivierheral5582]

More expensive and heavy than the CAESAR

[@FirstnameLastname-dq5gu]

This looks like a bunch of fancy shit it would do fuck all in combat a i mean for god sake it has windows

[@kripto999]

Eeeh ill stick with the good old panzerhaubitze 2000

[@TheCoolProfessor]

You painted a howitzer LIME GREEN?!!!

[@rock3tcatU233]

To make it an easier target for the opposing force.

[@НикОн-и4з]

Ногами хорошо дрыгает.

[@suzannegoncalves9934]

😊👍

[@alantaylor8281]

It would be good to see how it compares with BAE systems Archer. Both in mobility and rate of fire.

[@hapdf]

but also weight, purchase price and maintenance.

[@marclecatalan1841]

BAE ?Nexter it's only French,so,go house

[@hapdf]

Tu es sûr d'avoir compris le commentaire de Alan Taylor ? Il voudrait pouvoir comparer les caractéristiques du CAESAR (mobilité et vitesse de tir) avec celle du Archer (de BAE).

[@siadwarsame2045]

Marc Le Catalan archer is not British....it’s Swedish. I think the brits builds it though under licence from Sweden.

[@borjeborjesson4772]

@@siadwarsame2045 Archer design and production is Swedish company Bofors, a subsidary of BAE. So Swedish/English is correct.

[@divaldosanchez3996]

Lmao just cause it looks advanced don’t mean it’s good

[@alioshax7797]

It's quite good to be honest. One of the most exportated french weapon, used by Saudis, Indians and few african nations (and France obviously)

[@Luetzow1]

PzH 2000 > whatever this is

[@Samy-bu1ze]

Jealousy is so cute :3

[@glodjovicanac]

CAESAR or NORA B52??

[@Sofus.]

Noras range is 30 km compared with CAESAR 40 km on standard ammunition.

[@ncs2000]

make it a triple threat with Archer

[@glodjovicanac]

ncs2000 Archer is one of the best,that is true.

[@ncs2000]

archer is slower? speed or rate of fire?

[@srbijasrbijasrbija5343]

Marko Glodjovic Nora

[@bestcakes]

I guess it shoots wbite flags.

[@bangbangsaindonesia6831]

is very good Turki

[@nahedalchebany9691]

💀

[@Pakiii]

4х4 )))))!!!

[@huaweiza7296]

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[@niilo5175]

first comment and watcher

[@DefenseWebTV]

Hi Nilo, Thanks to follow Army Recognition Defense and Security Web TV News channel. Alain

[@adam88721]

Glad its self propelled..... *especially since the French don't have a great record with static defenses*

[@amx05200]

4 years in the trench...

[@LordInquisitor701]

with the British holding your hand

[@LordInquisitor701]

And us Americans pointy a gun at you daring you to surrender

[@amx05200]

@@LordInquisitor701 35 000 uk 110 000 us 1 400 000 Fr, we dont rewrite history they help do. Being helped doesnt mean your not experienced, particulary when your ennemy is twice more numerous in population/size

[@LordInquisitor701]

The Germans call the Marine Corps the Devil dogs and we had something called a trench gun Which is a pump action shotgun used by the US it was so effective the Germans were literally complaining about it Calling it a war crime

[@gabriellama9976]

Archer ("retreat" version)

[@Gustis40g]

So a fat Archer?

[@dedeyoga3873]

jezz AT MT

[@Notanga0920]

Slovakia haubica 155mm Zuzana 2 best

[@entrepreneurship5689]

Enough to kills jerries ahead

[@frantzsoudiagom118]

En espérant que ce ne soit pas un moteur RENAULT la dessus !!!