Caitlin Clark didn't save WNBA, enough with the jealousy comments | Brother From Another

[@rosby]

Jealousy is toxic. Black folks top on that. They don't want to be overshadowed by a fun player to watch. It's okay to play physical but not to hurt others. It's okay to play physical, but not INTENTIONALLY. Stop defending thugs. 🤮

[@blueguise23]

Melanated Black Women are the most jealous women on the planet.

[@moniquej369]

Natalie is 100% correct. People only start throwing out labels like “jealousy” when it pertains to women. And it’s so annoying. There are way too many people who have never watched, and who know nothing about the history of women’s basketball running their mouths. Also, everyone in professional sports gets banged up. It comes with the territory when you’re playing in a highly competitive league. Caitlin Clark shouldn’t be treated any different to satisfy people’s conspiracy theories.

[@cruzankakarot7758]

She said it’s not jealousy, but she is tired of the praise Caitlyn Clark is getting. Hmmm???

[@alniter1919]

Y'all on here cap cap capping ..... Nobody is interested in the wnba with out Caitlin.. this shit is getting out of hand ...

[@officialejwade]

It's jealousy... plain and simple. Let's stop playing dumb.

[@billyjenkins3672]

It’s jealousy . We are allowed to use our eyes .

[@jus3278]

WNBA is about to screw up this opportunity

[@user_0400-v6k]

Jealousy in Women's is worse than men's broken pride.

[@tontonbasan8680]

jealousy and envy... pure and simple!!!

[@Sunny-il1xm]

When he said jealousy is fine, NO, it isn't. It's a horrible emotion, It's pure hatred. And when it's passed around, like it is with Caitlyn, people just start jumping on that hate train. Then, the race card got thrown in. Really, she's receiving special treatment because she's white, not her talent? I haven't heard that in the NBA! I've never had interest in the Wnba and still don't. These women need to just play their game, the sudden attention could be temporary.

[@ScottFarris-y7u]

What makes Caitlin different is her character. She built her brand in college, not only with all the records she broke, but with want she did in the community… her work at the children’s hospital, her work with the food pantries, the time she. Spends with little girls. She built her brand and her fans followed her. She brings our money with her… we buy her shoes, her tickets, her jerseys… no one cares about these “exciting players”… their attitude stinks… the wnba “died” because the old players aren’t like able with their attitude

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Most college players do the same thing in college being out in the community what are u talking about

[@blueguise23]

​@@anthonytaylor7928 She's classy and not classless.

[@tomyoung249]

Spot on. Some on this thread suggest she got a privileged short cut skipping steps to stardom…she’s doing everything right not wasting energy on pointless arguments on race, DEI, gender crap. The only thing anyone in the WNBA should focus energy on is their game and community. Everything else is a distraction

[@justinball5068]

Look at the viewership last year versus this year. There is one player who has given you this amazing boost in fans and one player only. Be humble and thankful

[@CreativeGuy99]

Lol! This is terrible and does the JEALOUS WOMEN of the WNBA no favors. Garbage.

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

They want us to talk about women's sport but not criticize? This makes no sense

[@Axxx777]

This is woman's business. But she's on a show that primarily covers mens sports. If a man said the same thing he'd be called toxic and chauvinistic.

[@RealPackCat]

Women are petty. Getting them to admit the obvious is harder than pulling wisdom teeth. The OG may have been decent, but NOT exciting. The hate and jealousy should not be taken out on Caitlin.. Direct it towards the media instead. The dead ball assault should have resulted in a suspension to set a tone for the rest of the season. Thomas was ejected for a hard foul DURING live play. Fans do not give a crap about your legacy because it is not front page news. Let Caitlin build her own legacy, then fans can begin to reflect on the pioneers.

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

"If a man said the same thing he'd be called toxic and chauvinistic." The snowflake level of this comment is hilarious, because men say that women should not be commenting all the time. But the whiny guy thinks men get called out for it all the time, when they are only called out rarely.

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

@@RealPackCat The lonely incel outing himself.

[@greggcrawford124]

@@UnconventionalReasoning The only incel is you being raised in a single parent household. Calm down and have a Snickers🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pdouble9396]

Her face tells it all..

[@rosby]

Blah blah blah... Caitlin Clark is fun to watch. Ticket prices went up because of her. People want to see her play, not these jealous thugs and foolish followers. #SomeWomenJustBlahBlahBlah

[@knuke9596]

These new "flies" are potential paying customers for a league that has never generated a profit. But lets continue to lose money because we don't like the person who is generating all of this new interest.

[@Octobermayhem]

The reason the WNBA went to cable is because no one watched, and no one watched because their game is boring.

[@jwalk31]

Good point.

[@rudesword2852]

Its a failing business. All the financial numbers surrounding clarks arrival are exponential growth when before there was incremental growth.

[@larryr.burgess3318]

The NBA has saved the league let’s get that straight!

[@dapopebfrank2265]

All the players that's come out and openly show there Jealousy that's who where talking about it's easy to see which ones are jealous

[@soda8736]

Is this the page for the Angel Reese fan club, and Catlin hate club?

[@_CPerk]

You heard It hear first. “This is women’s business.” So us men that could be potential fans, should not watch nor discuss. Nuff said!

[@ericalford8853]

Before men who've never followed the wnba make ignorant statements, watch first. And for God's sake, stop acting like CC needs to be saved and coddled.

[@_CPerk]

@@ericalford8853 that’s life of a sports fan sis! Taking bad takes in stride. Why do you think all these sports debate shows exist? This is what men do…can’t have It both ways, can’t ask for us to support and then tell us that we can’t talk about It. That’s foolish

[@Jukeboxster]

men are the fans, 66% of WNBA fans are men. that's the worst part, she's crapping on the ones that are supporting WNBA the most. women are the ones that aren't watching.

[@arlandiscoleman5921]

@@_CPerkshe’s saying stop saying people are jealous because they play CC hard..what does that mean they should lay down for her .this is not college she has to earn it on the floor

[@rogerblewett5595]

Yeah I can't believe she said that

[@redwinstead7873]

Lady Clark leaves the WNBA goes back in the dump 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dariusfountain683]

Everything she saying is just showing that wnba jealousy is real

[@earlreed6229]

Where do l began ...... WNBA was dying before Catlin Clark came along ...... She's the chosen one ...... Face of the WNBA accept it ...... New era now of basketball

[@eb8403]

I agree with Natalie that jealousy should not be the prevailing narrative associated with the Caitlin Clark topic. However, her attitude and disposition was nasty in this interview. Rolling her eyes constantly and then suggesting that men can’t speak on women’s basketball? A sport? I disagree with Vince’s take but he was measured and polite. Does that mean that Vince can suggest that she stay out of men’s business when she tries to speak on the NBA? It was pretty arrogant and ridiculous for her to take that stance

[@demetriusevans4139]

You can see the feminism on her face

[@reginaldwiley6849]

She was listening to respond. She came in with her narrative/agenda (which she accused the media of doing) and was going to push it no matter what. And for the record, I don't watch women's basketball, college or pro, because it is not a good product. I couldn't get my daughter who loves & played basketball since she was 4 to watch it either.

[@bpraise517]

Nobody made it PREVAILING, many things can be right at the same time.

[@natfluential]

@@reginaldwiley6849no I listened which is why I responded the way I do. These are not new points. Vince, with all due respect has made points that a thousand people have made and quite frankly those of us who cover this league regularly, are tired of the same talking points, so yes I was ready but I absolutely listened and he didn’t convince me or change my mind b/c it wasn’t a new talking point. Vince just told you that he hasn’t been watching b/c he’s been busy covering the NBA, so his commentary is based on this general thoughts as someone who covers the NBA. My thoughts are based on me being in the weeds covering this league who hears these same exact points being made all the time and know the actual feelings of the players and those of us in the W community.

[@natfluential]

@@bpraise517 yes the media, particularly men, have mad it the prevailing talking point. And many things are true and can be true at once, and yet other true things aren’t being discussed. That is the point.

[@justindoud251]

Jordan is Jealous of Caitlin! Who is The REAL GOAT! Caitlin saved basketball...College and Professional. Men and women's! She's that good!!!

[@FlashyBoo]

Clark leaves wnba so do the new viewers…. WNBA Envy and petty…

[@rosby]

This woman is so feisty. Hahaha She can't accept the truth. You're bias. You're in a wrong place to comment and talk.

[@Mrcruzan]

She just rolling her eyes in the back of her head,smh.

[@Mrcruzan]

Lots of wnba players are jealous and envious of her attention that she brings.

[@johnbarfield4858]

I roll my eyes when people speak on the NBA without in-depth knowledge of the game itself.

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

Her take was the most bizarre, sexist, and uninformed diatribe I’ve heard in a while

[@mikecurry8502]

Nah she was on point

[@bradthomas7431]

She had no points.

[@TickleMeElmo55]

@@mikecurry8502 Spotted the White Knight.

[@claytonhall4501]

This is women business..ok woman us men will just leave the Wnba alone since we’re not wanted

[@TickleMeElmo55]

And they'll complain that we're sexist for not watching.

[@I.P.Freely2-yz1je]

I already have. I'm sticking with girls college basketball.

[@user-ng4nn4zw6r]

Dads and moms, of all ethnicities around the world, can encourage their daughters to watch a great female basketball phenom who looks and behaves like someone that these parents want their daughters to grow up to be like (not be like Mike). Michael Jordan said it best, "Republicans wear sneakers, too." Apply that to same concept to Caitlin Clark and you get, "Conservatives and traditional family dads and moms have daughters who like basketball, too" In comes Caitlin Clark. I CAN'T MAKE IT ANY SIMPLER THAN THAT!!!

[@mekaalexshirley9747]

This brother sounds like a little girl complaining

[@iamonia685]

....you mean like you thinking you know all.

[@tomyoung249]

People are going to call it like they see it…jealousy is very apparent towards CC People are blind if they claim to not see it

[@mockingbirdex3450]

What a rarity, a civilised discussion. Congrats!

[@kennygreen9338]

They're jealous..end of story

[@jigen1504]

Excellent point Natalie. I agree 100%

[@KarlaParson]

Vincent we thank you for not being woke. I could tell you were trying to hold back and trying to be a little politically correct. We know you have to play the game to a certain extent. Keep up the good work!

[@b-rad3681]

Facts !

[@tyreek.6815]

What does woke mean?

[@baller0724]

I would like to know the definition of this word "woke"

[@sheraldhill2728]

Sure, Charles Barkley and LeBron James knows zero building a league and growing it. She’s like a comic book nerd who hates the billion dollar movie because they didn’t include her favorite fringe character for 2 min in the second act. Lordy.

[@tehutim]

Cheryl Miller

[@bixhutch6274]

The delusion is so funny. NOBODYYYYY cared until Clark came in. This is not women's buisness lol. Men pay to keep your league afloat. Until we stop paying the bills, we'll say whatever we want about your league. Men are flocking to watch Caitlin. If Clark leaves tomorrow, this whole thing is over. Stop the lies.

[@alberto3214]

Bingo

[@jaredgarrison333]

Too many people in the media are lying to themselves about this situation

[@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu]

She the golden goose of the WNBA and they need to wake up.

[@baller0724]

Random guys living in their mothers basement think THEY are the ones paying these women😂😂😂 this has to be some kind of satire.

[@baller0724]

"If clark leaves this whole thing will be over".....ummm how was it here for 27yrs BEFORE clark if clark is the reason it's here now?? Make it make sense

[@jealous1senvy]

The fans are the "bottom line" if we say Clark is the face of the WNBA then she's the Face 😂😢😂😢

[@chandlerscaringia5260]

tTe face of the WNBA is going to be the best players. She is not. Sorry…. Aja is it right now

[@ketchuploverful]

@@chandlerscaringia5260 WILSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rogerblewett5595]

Did this lady just say that it was womens buisness ??? Well you cant say that, and then complain that people are not discussing the WNBA

[@davidneal7060]

Lol, I'm not a expert, but I'm jealous of Catlin, I'm a black man and can't shoot like that and I don't have a shoe deal or depends support pamper deal 😢

[@jdtalks8023]

I'm trying to listen but she almost lost me when she said this is woman's business. As if the women watch WNBA 😐😐

[@bobbyrogers5448]

All the wnba players and coaches hate her and over JEALOUSLY.

[@SmartDave60]

The sister is on point. SAS never defined what the WNBA players need to do w/ regard to CC to not eff up the bag.

[@jwalk31]

This heifer just said she's only been covering the WNBA for 2 years, and in the same breath told these men and others, "you don't know the history" Neither do you!!!

[@mikeb6150]

The ratings going up has been a trickle. This entire draft class spiked the interest of the WNBA. Who gives a shit about the history of the league. Half the eyeballs on the NBA, don't give Jordan his proper GOAT credits.

[@WhathehadasSole]

People don't stay in the past, especially for those that weren't around. At some point....this Jordan GOAT talk will end because the gens that seen him play will be too old or dead.

[@mj23goat3]

Entire draft class my a*s. You all don't just get to say sh*t because it makes you _feel_ better. Here the FACTS: Connecticut Sun hadn't sold out a game in 10 years. First time CC in town, BAM, sellout. The Indiana Fever attendance has increased from 4,000 per game last year to 16,600 this season. Done quadrupled that sh*t. They went from second to last in attendance during the 2023 season to first place this season, and they're a whopping 4,000 people per game ahead of the #2 team in attendance, which happens to the be the New York Liberty. So Caitlin Clark, in tiny little tv market of Indianapolis, is whooping #1 tv market in the country NYC's behind. The Fever have _already_ surpassed their attendance for the ENTIRE 2023 SEASON and we only 5 games into 2024, ffs. Who ELSE you think is causin' that? And the only reason NYC is even in second is because (uh huh, you guessed it) CC done played in New York TWICE already, which caused the Liberty's ticket sales to go through the roof. The first time Clark played there the Liberty set an all-time WNBA single game attendance AND revenue record. Conversely, the other prominent rookie, Reese, has barely made a blip in the Sky's attendance. They were 6th in attendance in 2023 yet they're currently 7th. So, Reese comin' in actually made them DROP a rank in attendance whereas CC's presence made the Fever go up ELEVEN spots in the attendance rankings. Overall league attendance is up 40% from last season and it's ALL the Clark Effect.

[@gahennasonneillon8566]

Haters gonna hate CC.. we will see the revenue..😂

[@Ezedinobi]

I really appreciate the thoughtful discussions on this show.

[@gualbertogarcia305]

Why is NATALIE At Times in “DENIAL” ?

[@vickiallen8482]

All the rookies brought eyeballs to league. Are there any numbers to back that up or is it just assume.

[@theklr]

Let’s go Nat!!! The W has building a foundation for CC. However the mainstream narrative has shifted and both is skipping steps and not ensuring a proper investment. I’m more ashamed in the W and its partners in ensuring that is wealth is distributed. CC is great, but it’s getting dangerous how they’re not getting ahead of this.

[@tomyoung249]

What steps is CC skipping? She dominated college and is now a rookie doing every thing right and keeping her mouth shut. All she cares to do is improve her game and not get mixed up in off court BS. She is not skipping steps. She id just avoiding unnecessary steps

[@theklr]

@@tomyoung249 okay... you got figured out...🙄

[@tomyoung249]

@@theklr there’s nothing to figure out unless you can identify what steps she’s skipping

[@Flyty-TV]

What Natalie said was the truth 💯 (young dolph voice) Preach!!!

[@greggcrawford124]

We love Caitlin more, why cant Keisha understand. We like calm players who just hoop. Some people are not into social media🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@madworld5511]

Frustration & aggravation isn’t jealousy When they have been putting in the work

[@LouSeph]

The NBA had Dr.J in the 70s - the league went bankrupt. Did he put in the work? Magic and Larry put in more work? You missing the point. If you want to talk about what’s fair - run the league like a charity and sit at the kids table. I had WNBA league pass last year. Kobe got me into women’s basketball - to give it a real chance. These women talking down to men -the same women talk crazy about male athletes but men can’t comment on OBVIOUS jealousy that is being displayed? This is gaslighting. If you wanna be equal to the men - you are gonna get criticized like the men. The Pistons beat up MJ / and they were called the “Bad Boys” and the entire league hated them, the NBA changed the rules and Isiah Thomas was a pariah for a long time. So the WNBA can’t play prison ball against Caitlin Clark and differently against everyone else and think no one would notice or say something. Nothing wrong with playing hard. No one is saying let CC win or that they should let her score. But her being doubled more than any player in the league is wild and these women are trying to beat her up and it’s cringe to watch. The WNBA is a business and they have never turned a profit. Not once. This is their moment for all of them. MJ got people to a tv - once there they saw the other greats and all their pay went up. All of them got ad deals. Maybe MJ got the most - but they all got it. Remember MJ had a shoe as a rookie too. The first ever player and he was a rookie.

[@madworld5511]

@@LouSeph The WNBA players are putting in the work as well They aren’t sitting court side braiding each other hair During their offseason They are playing internationally Still putting in the work The NBA started to turn around in 1979

[@LouSeph]

@@madworld5511 I didn’t say they didn’t put in the work. I didn’t say they are not talented. There was nuance in what I said - maybe give it a second read. I said I like the WNBA and I had the league pass last year and this year - I wouldn’t have got it if I didn’t think it was a good league. I just don’t want them to blow this opportunity. They don’t need to play prison ball against CC. It’s clear to anyone watching the games how differently she is being treated than even the other rookies. The NBA doesn’t do this to rookies - even LeBron didn’t get this and the NBA was making money when he came in. They had a reason to resent him being touted as a savior. These women certainly built the foundation and many of them are better than CC. I liken her to Steph and Magic. Steph was the most popular player - not the best. He is great but he would not of worked in 90s NBA. The NBA changed the rules to clean it up. Now I think they went too far but currently they found a good balance in these playoffs. I think the other women need to look at the attention CC is getting and display their game. Not display pettiness. Get people to learn their names and say - oh who is that her game is nice! Then they will wanna buy their jersey etc.

[@TheWholeWorld1]

@@madworld5511..and yet that “work” has not made the league profitable in going on 27 seasons. Perhaps a non-combative approach to your male audience (who actually makes up the majority of your patrons, is in order.

[@theklr]

@@TheWholeWorld1same with the nba at the same timeline. If you’re going to do comparisons get the timelines right

[@lennybeason1110]

Frustration isn’t jealousy it’s frustration! Most of the players are more frustrated because of the media coverage! Because on the court Caitlin is getting smoked and is not the best player on the floor in most games! Caitlin is simply getting the rookie treatment point blank period!

[@TaiyouArt]

If Clark is cooked then are these women trash? Stats don’t lie. Jackie Young rookie = 6.1 ppg, 32% fg, 31% 3pt, 3.3 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 17Fantasy Points Caitlin Clark Rookie= 17.6 ppg, 38%fg, 32.5% 3pt, 5.7 rebounds, 6.8 assists, 35 FP Natasha Cloud rookie = 3.6 pts per game , 32%fg, 33% 3pt,2.8 rebounds,3.4 assists, 11.9FP Kelsey Plum rookie = 8.5ppg, 34% fg, 36%3pt, 1.9 rebounds, 3.4 assists, 16 FP

[@comat9839]

Clark is averaging 15.6 ppg not 17.6

[@MOHAMEDMOHAMED-bx3ji]

​@@TaiyouArt STOP it. Young was Hurt. Plum was coming off the bench🤷🏾‍♂️😪

[@MsGoodyTwoShoes]

Most people have a limited vocabulary and they struggle to formulate original thoughts. The only word that they know is jealousy 😂

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

Silly argument. Any woman having to work 2 jobs year round would be jealous of someone younger than them to have the same job, same employer, but 100x the amount of money in their bank account before even playing in a wnba game.

[@aguynamedmixx]

Let's just say there is envy and jealousy in the WNBA. What comes after making that statement? It makes wonder if these people who are complaining want any resolution to said envy or jealousy. I believe would rather have something to complain about, rather than just watch women's professional basketball beyond only one player.

[@theklr]

Says someone who’s only watching one player. Sun came out of nowhere this season hot. Aces still need to figure somethings out. Fever are playing exactly like the last team in the W for the past couple years.

[@hashbrown4278]

@@theklrwho cares if they’re only watching one player? Why are you crying about that? Sports is about entertaining and there’s grown adults crying about one player getting more attention then them. It’s ridiculous

[@theklr]

@@hashbrown4278 who tf are you for me to care about then

[@hashbrown4278]

@@theklr you’re the one crying. Are you knew to sports? Have you not noticed most of pro sports is start driven ? If the media covers other players and the audience doesn’t care and don’t tune in then they’re going to cover the players that people will tune in for. It’s that simple. All this crying about something that’s already been happening in the nba for years is ridiculous

[@Domo-yo4pz]

Was she trying to be a meme?😂😂😂

[@behrgriss]

oh it’s the medias fault that people don’t watch the wnba …

[@michaelwilliams-nq6zg]

The whole "we've never seen a player like this" is just not true. I will leave Cheryl Miller out of this as she's the reason her brother had a HoF career, Cheryl is the goat. Diana Turasi was Ms. Clark before she thought about playing basketball. Kobe Bryant put the crown on Sabrina Ionescu's head, yet I'm hearing about a rookie who is going to improve.

[@markparham]

people are also forgetting to talk about maya moore

[@Don_Key_1]

2023 total attendance Fever 228k/40g=5.7k/g Sky 274k/40g=6.8k/g 2024 total attendance Fever 175k/11g=15.9k/g Sky 75k/ 8g=9.4k/g Subtract Sky vs Fever 17k game+attendance 2024 Fever 158k/10g=15.8k/g Sky 58k/ 7g=7.25k/g The mental gymnastics required to say Angel is contributing to WNBA popularity and success...SMH.

[@King_Mac80]

She's definitely not lying because as a kid in the 2000's when the WNBA games were on ABC and other basic channels I watched the games as a kid simply because it was more basketball.

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

And the sports platform and media in general is not like 2000. And tv deals are in the 100s of millions now. Yesterdays price is not todays price. Just like any tv programming, if it’s not profitable it won’t be on tv

[@theklr]

@@Obiamajoyisrmdnah. It was profitable enough they just sold to the highest bidder who did a rug pull

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

@@theklr quite foolish to talk about what is “profitable enough” for TNT or NBC. You haven’t a clue how tv revenue has changed dramatically in the last 10 years. UCLA and USC football bring in more money annually than the entire wnba. The WNBA could never be “profitable enough” prior to this year.

[@theklr]

@@Obiamajoyisrmd and you’re foolish not knowing that the original deal for the wbna was with abc and its tv rights momentarily bought out by a sports brand who no longer exists.

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

@@theklr you literally are making my point for me. Why would NBC extend a contract to televise a Thursday evening game when the games and the teams are not as profitable as - ummm…. FRIENDS? even ABC had better profit margins from an episode of “America’s funniest home videos” compared to televising a game. So no, it was not always profitable. Which is why contracts often were not extended after the term was up. The easiest sign of how profitable the league is can be determined by looking at the annual salary. When some players are making 80K, that says enough. In the 2000s folks on prime time tv were making more than that monthly, some weekly. That can only be done when there is sufficient profit. This is a capitalistic society. To claim a business is profitable enough yet could not retain tv deals aside from ESPN for nearly a decade speaks for itself. Quit being foolish.

[@jigen1504]

Natalie is correct. The framing of story has been like catlin saved the league. And it seems demeaning to DT and Candace Parker and swoops and others when they prematurely grant anyone goat status.

[@b-rad3681]

That’s the media fault not Caitlin , you take that up with the media not her …. Yall act like Caitlin said it lol .

[@jigen1504]

@@b-rad3681 I haven’t heard anyone put it on Caitlin .

[@jigen1504]

@@b-rad3681 I said the framing of the story.

[@natfluential]

@@b-rad3681literally what I did in the clip. No one is blaming CC. I done said the media multiple times 😂😂

[@b-rad3681]

@@natfluential lol you said a lot Natalie & I respect you to the utmost ! But you also insinuated that men can’t discuss the wnba because a lot of us haven’t watched at all before CC arrived , the same can be said for all the women that never supported the league as well . All of the women in my life never watched the wnba , they’d rather watch the nba so if you’re going to hold men accountable for not watching the wnba do the same for all the women that don’t support the league too !

[@ChrisBreezzy2023]

She did and numbers don't lie 😂

[@Bluejacket4life2]

You lie clown

[@chandlerscaringia5260]

she looks very regular too

[@mj23goat3]

@@chandlerscaringia5260 And yet this "regular" player just won the WNBA Rookie of the Month award. Weird.

[@romeod7549]

@@mj23goat3 And so what did she win every rookie of the month. She’s regular

[@mj23goat3]

@@romeod7549 Seeing as how they're only one month into the season, YEAH, she HAS won every Rookie of the Month so far. Your brain is below "regular".

[@thepoeticpainter8032]

If women actually watched women's sports, Caitlin "The Great White Hope" Clark, would have never been a phenomenon.

[@TickleMeElmo55]

She would still be a phenom because no one did what she did in college in the last decade besides that one chick who got cut from LV Aces recently (third in all-time collegiate scoring).

[@Sunny-il1xm]

Exactly, being female, I've never been interested. I always felt they were "catty" with each other. I never see that in any men's sports. I did watch the college finals to see her play, and I really enjoyed it, because both teams were good. She's brought attention like never before, and since when has tarausi ever spoken negatively about a female college player going to the wnba before. She actually plays for the mercury here in AZ and I've never had any interest in the team, even though they've won a few championships, and still don't watch. If I catch a game when Caitlyn plays, I might watch . It's not her fault she is getting all the attention, crazy how the negativity is coming from women, not surprised.

[@moniquej369]

Who says women don’t watch women’s sports? Stop making assumptions. Plenty of women support each other. The ones that don’t aren’t real sports fans, they just watch whatever the men in their lives watch. Smh. Before the Caitlin Clark hype majority of their supporters were women.

[@moniquej369]

@@Sunny-il1xmspeak for yourself. And clearly you’re not a real sports fan. It’s called being competitive, it has nothing to do with being “catty.” It gets heated in the men’s game all of the time, but no one has a problem with that. They also don’t get hit with labels like “jealous” or “catty” when they refuse to kiss the rookies behinds. Basketball is a competitive sport and everyone is trying to be the top dog. When you come into a professional league with the popularity and expectations that Caitlin has, you’re naturally going to have a target on your back. That’s the nature of sports and competition. Stop putting unfair labels on them just because they’re women. That’s what’s wrong with society today. False narratives and double standards are why it has taken the women’s game so long to grow.

[@bettyguiliams1461]

Women don't like to watch women with tatooes acting like men play basketball.

[@Redmoore30]

Tell me what women urll seen shooting from the logo b4 caitlyn.. numbers don't lie n these three do

[@larryr.burgess3318]

Don’t see the other rookies getting knocked around and b--h baited and hated on! Reese and Cardosa smiling right along with the mouthin!

[@mikeb6150]

Sports is a now business. The league is responsible for the history, not the fans or media.

[@ciaraclawson]

Some of these fouls have a feel to me of vets showing the rookies what to expect, I don’t see it as jealous, just WELCOME TO THE W. The college players coming up and learning what it means to play WOMENS basketball.

[@jwalk31]

I see it too, but not all of them. That screen that CC ran into. THAT was a welcome to the W for sure. But some of the other things that has happened, overkill.

[@ciaraclawson]

@@jwalk31 I would also have to agree with that! I think a lot is just this is what 5+ years playing in the league is and feels like. Nothing malicious just experience. And still lots of basketball greatness happening almost every night that has nothing to do with anything but great basketball being played!

[@TheWholeWorld1]

Great conversation.. with one caveat. STOP TELLING other media pundits that they “shouldn’t be speaking on something” or eluding to that in your dialog. That smacks of an arrogant attitude and conceded position. YES. Women broadcasters are scrutinized while covering men’s sports because a lot of them NEVER PLAYED THE SPORT. The ex/current WNBA players who commentate DO NOT receive that same scrutiny. Let’s keep things 💯.

[@natfluential]

Except I didn’t say that. I specifically said that’s fine. But you have to come correct and be informed. That’s what’s expected as a media member and that’s not too much to ask for.

[@MsGoodyTwoShoes]

The media should include journalists. Journalists are supposed to do research and present those facts. The media is doing to much framing to get the audience to buy the narrative. Natalie is saying, if you’re supposed to be a reporter or journalist, you should educate yourself before you speak. She is in fact correct.

[@TheWholeWorld1]

@@MsGoodyTwoShoes..over half of the current crop of media personalities are NOT journalists. They’re ENTERTAINERS speaking on an ENTERTAINMENT endeavor. The main reason why people tune into Shaq, Kenny and Charles is BECAUSE of their entertainment value. Only ONE of those four individuals on that stage could be labeled as a journalist. Again.. this is entertainment. Not political banter. It’s those individuals point of view from an entertainment perspective.

[@MsGoodyTwoShoes]

@@TheWholeWorld1 people should still educate themselves before speaking. We should not devolve into stupidity for the sake of entertainment. Raise your standards. FYI, reporters also have the same obligations , even though they may not be journalists. My statement still stands.

[@TheWholeWorld1]

⁠@@MsGoodyTwoShoes..I think those who actually played the sport, know a little bit more than those who never stepped on the court a day in their lives. So, we’ll have to agree to disagree. ✌🏾

[@jwalk31]

Omg!!! Just listened to the last part of the video. you've been covering the WNBA for only TWO YEARS!!!! She said people don't know the context of the history.... YOU DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY!!!! I actually worked for the Houston Comets back in '98. I know the history way better than you. Stop talking please!!!

[@lindajohanson9131]

The point that is overlooked is that it's been only a few years since the NCAA allowed college players to accept sponsorships/endorsements - so they could appear in ads. Because of that, Caitlin Clark became an instant winner in the ad world and soon became a mega millionaire appearing in ads for not only sports products, but also home and car insurance, etc. Not many college athletes were able to do that. It is not automatic. It's not "win a trophy and you'll be rich." You have to be marketable. Your face, your persona has to be sellable. Caitlin was and still is. Caitlin came to represent what we want women athletes to look like and what many people strive to look like - tall, thin and attractive. Her marketability had and still has nothing to do with the WNBA. She did not strive to be the face of the WNBA. She merely added "drafted by a pro team" to her image. Now some of the WNBA players are acting like they are high school girls who are insanely jealous of the girl sports star who became the homecoming queen. A serving of plain jealousy with a side of greed is how I see it.

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

I don't know if I'd say Caitlin is a super model like you're implying she is. I'd say she's more of an 8 or 7 at best, but that's mostly due to her personality than anything else. I think the reason why Caitlin is so marketable apart from her ability to shoot the 3 ball and passing skills is because she represents what people want not just out of female players but male ones too. For years, people have complained that NBA and WNBA players are starting to come off as entitled. You have people like LeBron James and others lecturing their audiences saying if he don't say or do x, then we're racists. If you disagree with me, then you're toxic. We don't want you, and blah blah. People are getting tired of it, and Caitlin comes in with a wholesome persona saying all the right things, and she merely just wants to play basketball for the love of the game. How refreshing is that? A player who actually loves the game, and she's more focused on that than her own image. Granted, we both know that's a lie to some extent considering she wouldn't have as many endorsement deals if she didn't care about her image to some degree, but even still. She's not lecturing anyone about their lives. She just wants to play basketball, and she's not telling fans to go "f" themselves if they disagree with her. It's refreshing, which makes her likeable and marketable.

[@antoniojames9493]

My God sports media know how to take a story and run it into the ground😂😂

[@jimjernigan8694]

If the league “makes” money post her arrival what will be said then??

[@mrshp2392]

Thank you 🙏🏼 first time watching

[@rosby]

You still need to learn a lot of things Natalie. Stay with the nba like you said you were covering. We knew black folks support each other even it's wrong.

[@natfluential]

I will cover what I want. I also do it well.

[@sulleys1929]

Fans are going to tune out when these pundits get so exuberated that they look like they are going to explode. Make a point don't explode a point!

[@legman1476]

Yeah, at 15:40 her plane was going down.

[@juanmiguelvillaluz6813]

$2M ticket sales vs NY🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ 19,000 watched vs SPARKS, more than the LAKERS🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ Chartered flights 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ Shoe deals 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@magyare10]

Chartered flights were implemented during the playoffs last year. Sabrina Ionescu had a signature shoe last year. She def brought attention of course but so did others. Angel Reese has more followers on X and IG than CC.

[@iam_ad629]

@@magyare10when you have a superstar coming into the league things are gonna happen

[@ad7711x]

@@iam_ad629Ionescu had her shoe deal well before Clark decided to enter the draft. And Ju Ju Watkins has endorsements and she’s only a freshman.

[@rh7074]

​@@magyare10thank you for educating the blind and dumb...BANG BANG NINER GANG!

[@rh7074]

Clearly you didn't take the time to look into any of the things you just started smh.... GOOGLE BRUH. It's really not that hard.

[@WhathehadasSole]

We should cut the Bulljive. JUST looking at what attracts women in entertainment is DRAMA. What are the biggest shows that women watch? Who are the biggest female stars they're driven to? I would say it's a lie to not think jealousy, envy is heavily shown by women on social media and through entertainment.

[@MissSparks92]

She even said she's "tired of the praise CC is getting" this is JEALOUSY plain and simple, she's just too delusional to accept her own envy as fact.

[@princellasmith7562]

15:41 THIS RIGHT HERE!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽Welcome to the world of being a woman.

[@jsidkfncjfdldld]

Get in the kitchen and stfu 😂

[@BighomieRich]

What do we mean by “save” she along with Angel, Aja, Sabrina etc have taken it to a new level

[@markparham]

people should also be talking about maya moore

[@legman1476]

The NBA technically "saves" the WNBA every year. The NBA plays a crucial role in supporting the WNBA, although it doesn’t fully fund it. Currently, the NBA owns 50% of the WNBA, while the remaining 50% is distributed among the franchise owners. Additionally, the NBA provides an annual endowment of over $15 million to help cover various operating costs for WNBA teams, including facilities, travel, marketing, and administration. Without this financial support, the WNBA would likely struggle to sustain itself independently, given its lower revenue compared to the NBA. By subsidizing the WNBA, the NBA champions gender equality in sports and provides role models for aspiring female players. Read that last line again. I'm not seeing many role models.

[@BighomieRich]

@@legman1476 ?? Ok in all seriousness what’s your point with that given that we’re talking about who brings viewership…not in the strict who financially backs them…cus you could then say TV networks do since they provide the contracts to give nba the money…and that doesn’t take away from the nba investing in a sport which in the hopes of future growth or for gender equity purposes or both

[@RealPackCat]

Angel who??? If she were allowed in the same conversation, she would not have been drafted #7. Queen Sid (Ice Age) is becoming her moniker. A step up from Ghetto Barbie.

[@BighomieRich]

@@RealPackCat you know her name, so she’s obviously influencing something…you a hater 😂

[@moniquej369]

Natalie is 100% correct. People only start throwing out labels like “jealousy” and “catty” when it pertains to women. And it’s so annoying. There are way too many people who have never watched, and who know nothing about the history of women’s basketball running their mouths.

[@TheLincoln655]

Big hair brings nothing to the show but attitude…

[@mikeb6150]

It's ok to have a taste. Some like MJ, some like Kobe, other like Ant...who gives a shit. We don't have to love the entire league, to hell with all that.

[@FoxyWilma]

Preach Natalie 😉👍

[@coreyjohnson5260]

She rolling her eyes and shaking her head

[@natfluential]

Yes because I’m tired of the same talking points. None of this is new. It’s men regurgitating the same talking points. And I have a relationship with Vinnie. So y’all mad and offended when he is not.

[@korReeS2]

@@natfluentialI agree. We steady talking about Clark like she’s being targeted which isn’t true and nobody seems to bring the hard foul on Angel Reese that was worse than Clark but we still hearing about Clark is this and that but her stats tell a different story 🤦🏾‍♂️ Aja Wilson been dominating the last two seasons and still doing so but I never hear about her in the media

[@kinghova9197]

It is jealousy yall fools not gonna brain wash me knock it off

[@Tmac_305]

Jealous of what? Explain....

[@robertarnold9883]

@@Tmac_305attention, endorsements, sellout games…

[@Tmac_305]

@@robertarnold9883 so you're claiming that they're jealous of something that doesn't affect them in the slightest bit?...

[@Acepilot12345]

​​​@@Tmac_305Chenedy posted what has Caitlyn Clark brought to the table besides shooting 3s.... Angel Reese says it's not just Caitlin Clark people are watching WNBA it's me too...😂 That's jealousy right there

[@robertarnold9883]

@@Tmac_305 yeah, they’re jealous of things they don’t have. That’s how jealousy works…

[@BEARWITNESS2907]

🤔 As a BM my black pundits are starting to scare me.Spitting 2+2 =5 yo Remove CC from the the league for 2 weeks and see what the ratings and attendance would be and give all the doubters a reality check IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU BETTER ASK SOMEBODY

[@taggangmember]

This is an unfortunate prevailing thing in the black community now. We are supposed to blindly support any and everything black and hate any amd everything white. It's ridiculous that things have gotten to this point because won't get us anything buts social media likes fron other black people. This world is in a sad place became we can't be honest about anything anymore.

[@Ekleaz]

If you black you a sucka. Remove her from 2 weeks the league will still go on. Take all the players out the league and let her shoot 3's alone and see who watches. You're not even making sense right now. You want them to bow down to someone that hasn't won anything in the league😂😂😂

[@WhathehadasSole]

Thank you. Just take away CC. Would there be any headline talk on Aja Wilson?

[@kikobubblegum6045]

They fact that you think there wouldn’t be amazes me. CC fans are just that, CC fans. They aren’t watching everyone else anyway. So the gyms are empty when the other teams are playing? Vegas is making all of those moves for its players because of CC? Really?

[@BEARWITNESS2907]

@@kikobubblegum6045 😂 If you say so. Nobody is else got 28 mil in endorsements or 2mil watching the draft ECT I guess it's just a coincidence 😁

[@ealymc]

Frustration and jealousy are two different things. Don't conflate the two.

[@Blacklist324]

The momentum died because they can't make a layup.

[@markparham]

tell that to players like maya moore and aja wilson

[@TickleMeElmo55]

@@markparham The point is for every good play there's a bad play like missed layups, shots hitting the border of the backboard or losing the ball because the player can't handle both the momentum of their body and controlling the ball.

[@RetroKid]

Y'all are stupid if you think that the people coming in and commenting about the WNBA have never watched actual basketball in their lives. The people coming in to comment are people who either follow Caitlin Clark in from college or who are NBA fans looking for a fix and something different. The WNBA is not a magical and mysterious league with different rules. The WNBA is not a more physical league although it might look that way. They're actually just clumsy and running into each other because they don't have the dribbling skills to get around each other or the jumping skills to dunk over each other. There's no prior knowledge that anyone needs in order to make comments about the WNBA if they're coming from another form of basketball. That's just the way to impose a barrier of entry so that people can keep their niche hobby to themselves

[@thorcat7769]

Caitlin Clark is responsible for the sudden, huge interest in the WNBA. Her style is unique and very exciting for the fans. She built a massive fan base from her incredible college career and her breaking of every record. That is why she sells out arenas wherever she plays and has about 50 million in endorsements and growing.

[@pf2007]

Reese and Carter are flies…

[@Queenofpentacles1]

I love her for this ! I feel like I just got schooled … and I love it

[@markparham]

you have to check out maya moore if she was around right now she would be the highest paid wnba player hands down

[@pyrral]

It’s not the media … it IS not a lie that she saved the league. You can’t face the truth.